CURIOUS INDEX, 3/17/08
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Jim Delany, eat my poo. Whole plates of it, please. February 9th, 2007: I love speed and the SEC has great speed, especially on the defensive line, but there are appropriate balances when mixing academics and athletics. Each school, as well as each conference, simply must do what fits their mission regardless of what a recruiting service recommends. I wish we had six teams among the top 10 recruiting classes every year, but winning our way requires some discipline and restraint with the recruitment process. Not every athlete fits athletically, academically or socially at every university. Fortunately, we have been able to balance our athletic and academic mission so that we can compete successfully and keep faith with our academic standards. The Ann Arbor News is running a four-part examination of athletes and academics at Michigan, and in sum it sounds just as dodgy in terms of boutique majors stuffed with rote learning as any other major school in any other major conference.
You made academics cry, Michigan! They’re only supposed to do that at Juno and right before their tenure review, dammit! With the fall term drawing to a close, Jay Basten monitored students taking his final exam in Sport Management 111, a course at the University of Michigan. During the essay test last December, one undergraduate - an athlete - caught Basten’s attention. “I could tell by the look on his face, and also based on the work he had done previously in class, that he had no clue what to write,” Basten said. “It was a 50-minute exam, and he probably wrote three sentences.” Basten said the experience almost brought tears to his eyes. But the full-time kinesiology lecturer added that watching a Michigan student-athlete struggle is not an isolated occurrence. The details shouldn’t shock, even for an august academic institution like Michigan. We’re more than comfortable with the notion that BCS grade college football is at its core a professional sport operating under the aegis of academic institutions. What is-oh, just piquant, we tell you!-is that we get to tell Jim Delany to dine on poo, because his conference’s flagship athletic/academic titan, doing it “the right way,” has to resort to the kind of academic funneling done at legendarily accomodating schools like Auburn or USF. They don’t read the NYT Leisure Section in between sets, either. Larry Asante says Nebraska’s making a bit more of their time in the weight room this year, meaning they’re lifting weights less like you, and most definitely not thumbing through their iPod while deciding whether or not it’s gay to use the hip adductor machine. “(Last year), we had a long time between sets. Everybody would take five minutes between sets. It’s like rapid fire (now). You do everything boom-boom-boom-boom. It’s nonstop. And once you enter the weight room, you’re not allowed to leave the weight room until you’re done.” Asante, who can’t finish this one tricky shoulder move, plans on leaving the weight room some time in the next three weeks. Until then he’s licking the condensation from the pipes and eating PowerBar scraps from the floor. BTW: hip adductor machine, not gay, but watch the shorts, man. No one needs to look up from their leg curls and find themselves staring at your manpurse sagging from the leg of your pants. The debate over the next Reveille rages on at Texas A&M: We reiterate: adopt Flex-o-mutt, the double muscled whippet/Bicep Terrier! Pleasant whippet disposition, horrifying steroidal physique!
Failing that, see if you can find a mastiff with this genetic quirk. Because nothing says Texas to us more than a double-muscled mastiff. Noel Devine say his misdemeanor assault charge was, of course, a misunderstanding. Most things involving someone threatening you with a bottle are. That’s a lot of taffy. Les Miles wants more taffy, please. $3.75 million dollars of taffy. LSU bring him taffy. Les happy with taffy, says taffy shows much respect for Les Miles. Les eat damn fine taffy. Les happy. |
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Do I laugh now…or wait until Rich Rod oversigns like hell next year?
Quick question..Do you think the WWL will blast LSU for paying the most for a coach..or is the hatred reserved only for CNS?
Comment by CapstoneAlum — March 17, 2025 @ 8:48 am
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Mike Slive is probably too busy hiding from Va. Tech basketball fans to read all of this Michigan brew-ha-ha, but I’m sure he’ll let out a meek chuckle or two once he hears the news.
Comment by TideDruid — March 17, 2025 @ 8:51 am
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Is Jim Harbaugh ever wrong?
Comment by okiedomer — March 17, 2025 @ 8:54 am
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Hey, isn’t that Barry Bonds’ dog?
Comment by MorningBeer — March 17, 2025 @ 8:59 am
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That Dog thinks the above animal is so huge because of successful antebellum breeding programs.
Comment by Harris — March 17, 2025 @ 9:02 am
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Seriously Orson, this is at least the second time you’ve mentioned crying while watching Juno. While I’ll agree that it was an excellent flick, I can’t remember any tear-inducing scenes.
Although There Will Be Blood and Atonement both caused me to cry tears of boredom.
Comment by PW — March 17, 2025 @ 9:08 am
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PW-
You have no heart. Therefore, we totally recommend No Country For Old Men, which is badass to the core. Any movie with a chase scene involving a dog that will swim to come and bite out your ass is a movie we endorse.
Also, we cry at particularly moving laxative commercials. (Pun!)
Comment by Orson Swindle — March 17, 2025 @ 9:10 am
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Jim Delany’s the Real Snake Oil Salesman Around These Parts
Comment by 3rd — March 17, 2025 @ 9:17 am
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I am sure you’re bringing it later O but not a single mention of St. Paddy’s Day? I love it. It’s like tailgating, only in March - and you’re usually in a bar and you’re not really tailgating. Anyway, Happy St. Patrick’s Day. I went ahead and posted the obligatory Dropkick Murphy youtube at my site.
Comment by Picture Me Rollin — March 17, 2025 @ 9:28 am
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It’s coming, but if you think we’re posting anything but the Pogues, you’re mad.
Comment by Orson Swindle — March 17, 2025 @ 9:31 am
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Delaney: “Not every athlete fits athletically, academically or socially at every university.”
He’s right. Not every athlete wants to get fucking rolled two years in a row in the MNC game or the Rose Bowl.
Comment by Out of Conference — March 17, 2025 @ 9:34 am
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Harris @ 5 - first LOL of the work week, sir, nice work.
Comment by DC Trojan — March 17, 2025 @ 9:35 am
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OOC @ 11 - Based on that stadnard, maybe Oklahoma needs to leave the Big 12 and join the Big 10.
Comment by DC Trojan — March 17, 2025 @ 9:37 am
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OOC @ 11
Something your school has never had to worry about.
Comment by Crabapple Buck — March 17, 2025 @ 9:41 am
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“this ain’t auburn, its the #1 psychology dept. in the country”.
Big whoop. Auburn puts men on the moon and invents things daily to make practical day to day living better and safer, and UM has the number one psychology department in the country.
What does that do for anyone? Help you figure out who is nuts and who is not?
Southerners figure that out on thier own by the fourth grade.
Comment by kt — March 17, 2025 @ 9:41 am
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FC update….lots of assaultin’ going on at CU.
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=383976
Comment by Brian O'Blivion — March 17, 2025 @ 9:46 am
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KT-
Putting men on the moon might not be the best thing to compare to UM. Remember, we created the “Space, bitches” commercial.
Comment by JLo — March 17, 2025 @ 9:48 am
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Dear Michigan,
Please take your “Michigan man” crap and your “high academic standards” and shove it up your ass. Preferably sideways. Rot in hell and take Delaney with you.
Fuck off and die,
The Rest of the Big Ten
Comment by WhiteSpeedReceiver — March 17, 2025 @ 9:49 am
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“Is Jim Harbaugh ever wrong?”
Is Pete Carroll still at USC?
Comment by MiseanAuFan — March 17, 2025 @ 9:51 am
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I was a GSI at Umich, and there were plenty of non-athlete UGs that had no clue how to write in the first place, let alone how to answer an essay question. Hell, I had students that were utterly dumbfounded to find out reading (READING!) would be required of them in a mythology course. UMich has stellar grad school programs, but their UG is pretty similar to every other big, decent public university.
Comment by meg — March 17, 2025 @ 10:05 am
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btw, this news about Michigan academic standards is nothing new to us Domers, as we’ve been telling our employees from Ann Arbor for years that the only difference between Michigan and Michigan State is a full set of teeth
Comment by okiedomer — March 17, 2025 @ 10:12 am
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Most public undergraduate programs at major universities are sub par. This is because these universities need massive amounts of tuition money to fun their massively awesome research and graduate programs, which in turn is what they’re really pimping when they talk about academic standards. If you want to see undergraduate standards in action, go to Stanford, but don’t expect to see good football.
Comment by Carlinthemarlin — March 17, 2025 @ 10:19 am
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also two previous CU arrests before these latest:
http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=88266
Comment by fattus — March 17, 2025 @ 10:20 am
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Good point, #20.
In my experience as an undergrad and as a Grad Instructor, undergrad classes are all the same. The 3 kids who really care, the 5 who are pissed off their parents are forcing them to be there and the other 22 who are there but totally focused on last night’s/that night’s/tomorrow night’s party or trying to figure out how to score with the hottie 2 seats in front of them. The only thing that changes from university to university is that some of them drive nicer cars.
Comment by CKGator — March 17, 2025 @ 10:29 am
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Does Jay Basten teach in the law school too? It might explain the whole Ann Coulter thing.
Comment by Mike and His Four Noble Truths — March 17, 2025 @ 10:32 am
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Mr. Delany? I have Governor Spitzer on line 1. He’s calling to thank you for making him look like a…well, whatever the opposite of a fucking hypocrite is.
Comment by Expat Ohioan — March 17, 2025 @ 11:00 am
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1, the WWL won’t because LSU pulled a tricky maneuver called paying for services rendered. When you pay $4 million for crap, you get called on it. When you pay whatever LSU is going to pay for a coach that just one SEC and MNC titles, it’s called capitalism, the American way, getting what you paid for.
Comment by LSUJoshua — March 17, 2025 @ 11:18 am
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Oh, and I can’t even begin to examine the brainless, idiotic statements of Delaney. Talking with a Bama fan is about as stupid as my mind downshift.
Comment by LSUJoshua — March 17, 2025 @ 11:19 am
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#26: Wouldn’t the opposite of “hypocrite” be “hyper-crite”?
Whatever, Sundiata Gaines gon’ be cuttin’ down the nets in San Antone, bitches.
Comment by Doug — March 17, 2025 @ 11:26 am
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Well, Michigan refused a home and home with Auburn.
I guess we’ll just have to Chop-Block those MF’ers in swimming.
Comment by NewAZTiger — March 17, 2025 @ 11:33 am
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#27
Joshua
I honestly hope for you and the good people of La. that this move doesn’t turn out to be like Bama awarding Mike Shula a raise and a contract extension after a 10-2 season. I would hate to see the bayou on fire.
Comment by CapstoneAlum — March 17, 2025 @ 12:05 pm
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Good to hear, Orson. Just finished Hell’s Ditch and If I Should Fall From Grace With God is on deck.
I boo myself for not bringing Rum, Sodomy, and the Lash to work though…
Comment by Pants McPants — March 17, 2025 @ 12:29 pm
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Carlinthemarlin @ 22 - A friend of mine got his phd from Indiana and when he was t.a.-ing freshman classes was stunned to be told that they were expected to fail up to 25% of the class. Apparently anyone can roll in to Bloomington and enroll, so they had to clear house aggressively in all the freshman intro courses.
As for Michigan, who knows? My father in law teaches there and he doesn’t seem unduly distressed by the undergrads, but then he only has to deal with the great unwashed when he takes his turn teaching generalist courses - most of his seminars are ones that you don’t end up in by accident.
Comment by DC Trojan — March 17, 2025 @ 1:05 pm
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Crabapple Buck @ 14 - Touche. I should have covered my flank by adding the Outback Bowl. Nicely played, sir.
Comment by Out of Conference — March 17, 2025 @ 1:19 pm
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Auburn may have put a man on the moon, but also, unlike say most other schools, had players that couldn’t read (see Brooks, James.)
Comment by Will (the other one) — March 17, 2025 @ 1:21 pm
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I know it’s twice as long as the Unabomber’s Manifesto but you should read it all…
Yet Basten can’t help but express concern for some of the athletes he teaches in his introductory courses, and worry about how they’ll fare as their academic careers at Michigan continue.
“I actually went to study table a few times because kids asked,” Basten said. “A lot of these kids, their reading levels couldn’t have been higher than sixth grade, seventh grade.
“I had one guy ask me what the word ‘bureaucracy’ meant, and how to sound it out. I was thinking: ‘How do they survive?’ I don’t know.”
Comment by kt — March 17, 2025 @ 1:28 pm
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“As for Michigan, who knows?”
Michigan has competitive admissions for undergrads. Generally, a 3.5 and 1250 SAT for instate and a little higher for out of state (non-athletes obviously) and you are in the ball park to be admitted.
Comment by maskedavenger — March 17, 2025 @ 3:02 pm
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DC @ 33. As a former TA at tOSU I can laugh at failing 25%. I heard that the attrition rate for freshman when I taught there was over 50%. Trying to run a research university with the admission’s standards of a community college is not a wise way to go about things IMHO.
Avwenger @ 37. Good numbers but not as good as they would have been in the past given horrible grade inflation and the renorming of the SAT.
And admisson standards don’t tell the whole story about students either. Back in my migrant worker days, I found that I could give the exact same exam to a night class at a community college (with open admissions) and a morning class at a State University (with moderate standards) and the CC students would do better than the University students on average.
Comment by oc phil — March 17, 2025 @ 4:21 pm
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Looks like Michigan did what the New York Times tried to accuse Auburn of doing.
Comment by ChemE93 — March 18, 2025 @ 3:07 pm