INNOCENTS ABROAD: TWO OR THREE THINGS WE KNOW ABOUT NOTRE DAME, PT. ONE
Two, three or twenty things we know about Notre Dame after being the guest of the ND Nation for the UCLA/Notre Dame game this weekend.
1. Justin Hickman needs financial advice. Soon. Notre Dame fans brought out the phrase turnstile to describe the play of their offensive line in this game (”like big, flabby, slow turnstiles” was one phrase we think we heard,) but blame much of Brady Quinn’s lowballing and scrambling on the mad rushing of UCLA defensive end Justin Hickman. Hickman likely had Mel Kiper feeling tingly in all the places you don’t want to think about Kiper getting tingly on Saturday, since he did almost demolish the Irish gameplan single-handedly. He nearly vaulted his blocker on the final play, forcing Brady Quinn out of the pocket and into…well, the game-winning throw. So scratch that-it’s all Hickman’s fault, dammit. He can weep into the comforting fake boobs of a thousand NFL groupies to ease his pain next year.
2. Brady Quinn done something right dang awesome y’all. We’re translating that for our people, since the NBC fetishization of Quinn uses semi-religious iconography and language that doesn’t really cover the flat-out nastiness of the rusty dagger implanted in UCLA’s skull on the final drive. Quinn evaded hellacious pressure, rolled right (as he never, ever should have been allowed to do by the UCLA D), and completed a series of three passes that undid the frayed seams of the Bruins. The surgery was left to Quinn, who even on a trauma ward-style day broke out the cool tools for a little critical subcranial work on the final drive. And all he needed was one minute and a gigantic white wide receiver busting through arm tackles. Frankly, this should be the solution to any situation in life. If it isn’t, your number is probably up, and you should grit your teeth and think of England.
3. Jugglers do not belong in college football. Proof that more than any other cluster of universities in the world, the California University system’s traditions and protocols were and are still influenced by the heavy LSD use of the 1960s. We could attempt to describe him, but pictures do a much better job. For the record, we did ask others if they could see the man in the blue suit juggling on the sidelines, and were beyond relieved that others said yes.
Have you ever watched football…on acid, man?
4. Notre Dame is Wimbledon. That’s the best pinpoint accurate summary of what it the general environment at a Notre Dame football game is for an SEC fan. The first thing striking you at a Notre Dame game is the order, the sheer Midwestern, patient, polite order of the whole thing. In contrast, the first thing that strikes you at an SEC game may be the fist of an opposing fan, or perhaps the overwhelming aroma of whiskey off a tottering 55-year old passing you. It’s not just a different vibe, or different ethos-it’s an entirely different society and way of watching the game. If Ben Hill Griffin Stadium is the U.S. Open-where doing the wave, watching a replay on a jumbotron, and hollering like you’re being stung by a horde of merciless insects is de rigeur-then Notre Dame is Wimbledon, an intense and mannered environment where tradition rules with only the most obvious concessions to the postmodern football world included.
A Fenway-style manual scoreboard would not be out of place here-in fact, we’ll go ahead and suggest that Notre Dame put one in for style points. The retro, logo-free endzones are obvious to television viewers, but a single detail became a microcosm of the Notre Dame experience for us:

Unfinished, splintery, and creaky old wooden planks make up the lower rung of seating, with numbers stenciled on in military font spaced just far enough to allow for the squeezing of cheeks clearly not fed daily on a diet of high-fructose corn syrup. You want Knute Rockne’s benches? Well, there they are, brown and unforgiving. It’s a no-frills, crystallized vision of antediluvian game-watching that is a bit jarring to those accustomed to videologue game intros and WOO-HOO! FIREWORKS to start the game, but after a few minutes it’s hard not to feel a sudden fondness for leather helmets, the flying wedge, and players with long, unpronounceable Slavic names.
The upside is spooky, grey-skied nostalgia and a crowd focused on the game with a Teutonic intensity; the downside is a quiet stadium that, at times, was so quiet we actually heard the coaches yelling on the sidelines. (We were sitting in the south endzone, for some perspective on this.) The student section is as lunatic as any, and the spontaneous spacing of the lofted push-uppers following a touchdown would make a fine mathematics thesis for the inquisitive undergrad, since they did seem perfectly spaced without effort, as if the hive-mind of the student section instantly recognized where a student needed to be hoisted aloft in celebration.
(There’s surely an equation that explains this accuracy.)
The epitome of the downside is contained in this image:

Ushers at Notre Dame, you may suck our ass. The red-stater in us, the free-wheeling libertarian who wants you off our land right now, stranger, the bottle-wielding redneck in us wanted to pummel these lost Shriners with the nearest heavy object on sight. Ushers at most other venues we’ve been to serve less as traffic controllers and more as referees, since grown adults may read the ticket, follow signs, and find their seat without difficulty. Their primary function: kicking the confused, very drunk and confused, and the outright fraudulently misplaced out of the incorrect seat, as well as the occasional call to security when someone decides to take out the frustration of the fourth INT of the day by calling an ISO Smash to a rival fan’s face.
These ushers serve as nannies, not only refusing to allow any and all funness to occur outside the student section, but actively quieting fans down and quashing standing. You want to know who Hitler’s willing accomplices were? These people. One minute they’re telling you to sit down, and the next minute they appear outside of your house asking where your neighbors are. Screw these people in the ear; in our perfect stadium, they’re thrown screaming off the upper deck by the angry masses.
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You can get fined for having sex there?
So the university basically serves as a pimp for its coeds?
Comment by MiseanAUFan — October 23, 2025 @ 8:23 pm
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#58 - OC Phil, name one Pac-10 school besides USC to win a non-split title.
Comment by NewAZTiger — October 23, 2025 @ 7:21 pm
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So, you can have premarital sex and not get booted. That’s mildly reassuring.
What if you wear a Condom? Does that warrant expulsion?
Comment by NewAZTiger — October 23, 2025 @ 7:20 pm
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ND usher suck story: I’m an ROTC ND grad, and did many of the color guards before games. We always got field passes for the games, and usually used those instead of our tickets, hung out on the field after changing out of uniform, etc. My freshman year, before the renovation, there was was actually “field seating”, collapsable bleachers on the field behind the bench. We’re on the field, sitting behind the Washington bench as we are blowing them out (1994, final score was something like 54-20), and we’re making cracks about their punter, who had like a 20 yard net average that day (you know you’re on a roll when you get their kicker to laugh at their punter…). Some jackass near us lets a Mad Dog bottle fall out of his jacket, and an usher sees it-runs over, interrogates us all “IS THIS YOURS???!!!??!!”, and when we all answer “no”, kicks the entire section out of the stands.
Luckily, he couldn’t take away our field passes…so we just walked around to the other side and went into the student section.
I’ll second the comments about ND stadium being dead outside the student section-I’ve been to only one game post-grad where I sat in the stands, and I hated it so much I left midway through the first quarter and got some friends to get me into the student section. All the other games post-grad I had grad student friends get me tix. Student section rocks-the rest of the stadium is a morgue. Oh, and those little tiny bench seats-they’re for standing on, not sitting.
Comment by Nate — October 23, 2025 @ 6:26 pm
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Carson Palmer had the advantage of back to back high profile games at the end of the year. His performance against UCLA gave him momentum and then the game against ND put him over the top.
I’m not sure that Palmer’s game at KSU was as bad as BQ’s against the Wolverines, but the big difference is that there was not the media spotlight on the game. Whereas Quinn was the big Heisman leader going into the season this year, Palmer was coming off of a 6-6 year and USC was still under the national radar early in the 2002 season. Brady could still win of course, but with only one big media frenzy game to shine and the lingering stench of the MI game, he has lots to overcome.
If Smith does win the trophy, that would create a 3 way tie between ND, USC, and tOSU for most Heismans.
Of course if USC has a big win against ND (and sweeps the Pac 10), that would be opening of JD Booty’s 2007 Heisman race.
Comment by oc phil — October 23, 2025 @ 6:24 pm
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Rick,
I’ll even give a ‘thanks’ for the ‘82 game (is it really a fumble if it’s close to the goal line? Don’t answer); but before things get sickeningly respectful between our sides, there will be no ‘thank you’ for last year’s game.
In the interest of rivalry, we must keep ‘hate’ alive.
Comment by SeaTrojan — October 23, 2025 @ 6:11 pm
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The best part about the juggling video is announcer telling the crowd when and where the post game masses will be celebrated just as the UCLA cheerleaders are bending over to get their pom poms. I think God is telling me I need to go to confession.
Comment by FishFan-GatorMan — October 23, 2025 @ 5:49 pm
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What was up with the ND drummers banging away ruthlessly during UCLA’s final drive? Do bands normally belt-out noise during opponents’ drives?
And the priest raising the roof (or spirit) in the background was certainly a first for me.
Comment by J-skool — October 23, 2025 @ 5:47 pm
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ST - Any SC guy who who openly thanks the refs for the ‘78 game is OK by me.
Comment by Rick — October 23, 2025 @ 5:32 pm
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Rick,
Regarding the Willingham/Hackett comparison, I knew from the get go what the result would be when they hired the least imaginative OC in NFL history. Ty was a bad ND coach, but pretty good elsewhere.
Regarding Montana, I saw him in person in college (thank you refs for the ‘78 game; yes, I’m old) and pro; Quinn is more easily flustered and not as accurate, but he does have some of that 2 minute magic in him.
Palmer is unique in the sense that he went from being a new and improved Rob Johnson to being a Heisman winner in a midseason instant. The light switch went on. KSU had a good defense and Mike Williams dropped two bombs in that game. Quinn’s big jump occurred between Soph. and Junior years, a more normal occurrence. I’m sure he can keep progressing, but I believe he’s already made his biggest leap forward.
Lastly, I agree that Quinn ‘could’ win the Heisman, but it will take a lot more for me to believe he ’should.’
Comment by SeaTrojan — October 23, 2025 @ 5:18 pm