FULMER CUPDATE: COUGAR’D!
This week’s big board only appears unchanged: Washington State makes a spectacular score in some post-incident charge juggling, a correction noted in the regular notes, corrections, and etcetera below. The board is provided, as always, by Brian, who is hung like Reggie F’n Nelson.
Washington State’s Andy Roof may have put Wazzou on the board for good thanks to his ability not just to punch people at parties, but also to break their bones while doing it. The Cougars already sat at a good, solid five points thanks to some contact lens sabotage and beery legerdemain.
Andy Roof’s original head-butting offense was given one point for piddly charges, but that may have changed in a drastic manner:
But the police investigation is pointing to alleged crimes more serious than misdemeanor fourth-degree assault. An assault that results in broken bones usually merits a felony second-degree charge, Tennant said.
“Our investigation is criminal in the fact, ‘Did Andy Roof hit this person and how much damage did he cause this person?’ ” Tennant said.
Broken bones in a fight mean likely and various felony charges for Roof. Conservatively, let’s go ahead and estimate two felony charges of assault at the minimum put Roof’s incident at a six-pointer, meaning WSU climbs to a count of eleven-and that’s if we don’t “reward” Roof with a bonus point for not only punching someone completely unprovoked, but also for smashing someone’s face into a stop sign.
Other than that: relative quiet. Two former Mississippi State players will be charged in a shooting incident, meaning we may have to award some retroactive points for the crime. (Croom did boot them, but they were players at the time, and therefore the charges and awarded points stand. Exeunt the EDSBS legal staff…) This quote mystifies us:
“I did make a terrible decision,” said Wesley. “I didn’t use the brain God gave me. I used what the devil gave me.”
A golden fiddle? A stunning goatee? The gift of knowledge? Or like the only great scene in Bedazzled, a life as a Colombian drug dealer complete with assassins in pursuit and a hot mistress? For the record, we never saw what was bad about that whole setup.
(Thanks as always to the SAS Wiki Fulmer Cup board for keeping us straight on scoring. We need all the help we can get.)
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‘OOOhhhhhhhhhhh, MIS establos.’
Comment by spartanmike — May 6, 2025 @ 11:40 am
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Is Wesley using the Flip Wilson as Geraldine Jones defense? Is anyone on here old enough to know what that means?
Comment by Crabapple Buck — May 6, 2025 @ 11:43 am
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Well that settles it then. The Devil lives in Starkville.
Comment by RaginCajunRebel — May 6, 2025 @ 11:45 am
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I asked this question on an earlier thread, but getting to the game late, it may not be answered (not that it wil be here either), so I’ll ask again..
Orson, are you in St. Pete to finalize the contract negotiations for the bowl?
Comment by Out of Conference — May 6, 2025 @ 11:56 am
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Ok, for the I Don’t Know How Many-eth time, you haven’t counted this Ahmu point for Wazzu. That’ll give them 12, not 11.
Comment by Brian O'Blivion — May 6, 2025 @ 12:15 pm
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2- The Devil made me do it! Unfortunately I’m not old, just well versed in old people culture…
Comment by SEC Supremacist — May 6, 2025 @ 12:16 pm
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And O, given current verbage, isn’t it good to get “Cougar’d”? I woulda killed for it 5 years ago…
Comment by SEC Supremacist — May 6, 2025 @ 12:17 pm
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verbiage… whatever
Comment by SEC Supremacist — May 6, 2025 @ 12:18 pm
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“legerdemain” is one of my favorite words. I love those old-timey exaggerative terms. It just sounds so much better than saying “card trick”
Comment by AllWhoYonder — May 6, 2025 @ 12:26 pm
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If you got it… flaunt it!
Comment by SC_Gator — May 6, 2025 @ 12:36 pm
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#2
I am familiar with the Devil in Miss Jones defense with Wesley playing the part of Harry Reems.
Comment by Mitch Cumstein — May 6, 2025 @ 12:43 pm
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I love a good Bedazzled reference. Cocaina!!
Comment by Bunkie Perkins — May 6, 2025 @ 12:51 pm
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If guns were illegal on the MSU campus back in the early 70s, then about 80-90% of my fraternity would have gone to jail, myself included, mostly due to hunting rifles/shotguns in trunks.
Times change.
Comment by yoyofutbawl — May 6, 2025 @ 1:00 pm
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#7,
The term with relation to Wazzu is actually getting “coug’d,” but now that you point it out getting cougar’d doesn’rt sound so bad…
Comment by Big Jon — May 6, 2025 @ 1:00 pm
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Ole Miss needs more points, dammit.
Comment by The Ghost of Jay Cutler — May 6, 2025 @ 1:24 pm
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You’re still missing Mississippi State’s points for Jamon Hughes’s DUI (2 points you awarded them). And you’re also missing Derek Pegues’s ‘driving with an open container’ violation.
All you’re giving them is the 7 points for the gunfire incident. They have a legit shot at the title this year, so I would hate to see them miss out on a few points that may eventually take them over the top.
Comment by rebel84 — May 6, 2025 @ 1:27 pm
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Hey Brian,
Why don’t you fix the f*ing point system?
Illinois has 1 player shoot a starter gun, and gets 11 points. Thats the entirety of their trangressions …. and they are fifth on the list.
Mississippi State has at least 2 players shooting a real gun, yet somehow are not even on the list (or are in the also ran “other category” for 10th.
Iowa has had 6 or 7 arrests …. ah, never mind.
Brilliant. Keep up the great work.
Comment by Chris — May 6, 2025 @ 1:34 pm
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Rebel84: Maybe you can lobby for Pegues to pick up a few more points for felony abuse of your punt defense.
You remind me of the little kid that would tattle on his classmates. “Teacher, teacher, Billy is passing notes!”
Comment by hailstate — May 6, 2025 @ 1:35 pm
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Update … I see the mighty Bulldogs have had 2 others arrested for alcohol related events as well.
Time to throw a couple more points for the one Illinois player who shot a starter pistol.
Comment by Chris — May 6, 2025 @ 1:38 pm
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Shame that Orson does not allow for coaches to score points. Otherwise, Ole Pi$$ would automatically been awarded 5 for impersonating a head coach and absusing the English language for the last three years.
Comment by yoyofutbawl — May 6, 2025 @ 1:51 pm
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Chris-
Them’s the points. Note the asterisk: even if Illinois’ lead had held, they would have been ineligible most likely due to one player doing it.
If you’re implying that we hate Illinois because we hate [NAME REDACTED], then you’re wrong. We just don’t like him. That’s very different.
Comment by Orson Swindle — May 6, 2025 @ 1:58 pm
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Robot hands! The devil gave him robot hands!
Comment by asp_uf_ut — May 6, 2025 @ 2:04 pm
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#18…good one
/sarcasm
Comment by Bunkie Perkins — May 6, 2025 @ 2:08 pm
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Ghost of Jay, I agree, though one could argue that unlike other schools, getting a DUI is simply part of the whole Ole Miss experience. I mean, when the COACHES get busted for DUI it puts the whole thing in perspective. Hell even Saint Eli got busted for public drunk his freshman year (*sigh* didn’t we all…ah, memories). I’m personally more impressed with the midwestern schools getting meth busts…and those are happening high up the administrative ladder…impressive!
BTW, thank you, THANK you for that musical masterpiece you posted, “Bitch You Ride the MARTA Bus.” I can now say I have listened to greatness.
Comment by the croominator — May 6, 2025 @ 2:14 pm
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Orson,
Eh, I can understand why you would not like him. I wouldn’t like a guy who recruited 20 of 22 players that won a National Championship, was fired, and then led a 2-10 team to the Rose Bowl, whilst watching my team get thumped by a mediocre Michigan program coached by an octanagerian.
And facing the abyss of being buried under Tennessee, Georgia and (errr, this would really piss me off) South Carolina.
On the upside, I would take comfort in the fact that my team still matches up well with Kentucky, and if we lost to Vandy, well, that would be an upset.
And other than LSU, Arkansas, Alabama and Auburn, I would take comfort from knowing we match up pretty well with the other division, so long as Trbow stays healthy.
Ahh…. perfect sense.
See you with the Gameday crowd in St. Louis on August 30, when (NAME REDACTED) puts a pummeling on #4 Mizzou on his way to a NC.
Comment by Chris — May 6, 2025 @ 2:20 pm
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If [NAME REDACTED] wins a national championship anywhere in anything, we will eat his entire name carved out of pieces of cheese. And considering that we can’t eat even mildass American cheese without wanting to hurl up our liver, that is quite a bet.
We’ll even film it, and the requisite vomiting afterwards.
Comment by Orson Swindle — May 6, 2025 @ 2:29 pm
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Illinoise for the MNC? Shit, I’m an ND fan and even I’m not that delusional.
Comment by AllWhoYonder — May 6, 2025 @ 2:44 pm
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Duly noted.
Would that be his real name, or NAME REDACTED?
Simply put, who is gonna beat the Zooker? He’ll handle Mizzou. The B10? We’ve handled OSU, who else stands in the way? Michigan, with its spread offense with a bunch of lumbering pulling guards on the OL, no qb, and no receivers? PSU? Wisconsin?
Zooker has their number.
Which all leads up to a national championship game against Georgia, with an outcome more akin to recent B10/SEC bowl games such as Wisconsin v. Arkansas and Auburn recently, PSU over Tennessee, Michigan over Florida then, ummm, the other ones.
Comment by Chris — May 6, 2025 @ 2:55 pm
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“Eh, I can understand why you would not like him. I wouldn’t like a guy who recruited 20 of 22 players that won a National Championship,”
Oh! Heavens Yes! Thank god for [NAME REDACTED}! Because UF never, ever attracted any talent before He arrived. Nope. He really put us on the map, talent-wise. Strange he couldn’t win more than 9 games, though. What with all that talent running around. Anyway, enjoy your certain national Championship.
Comment by Mr. Wrong — May 6, 2025 @ 3:01 pm
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Well, once Urban’s boys start taking over, you end up with a team built in Schembechlers image transform into a bunch of Tazmanian devils, running by a bunch of stunned db’s wondering who just ran by them (pardon me, Mr. Manningham, please, continue running your post route while I try and find my jockstrap).
If not for the genirosity of Hart, they would still be scoring.
But I digress.
How does one player firing a starter pistol get twice as many points as a program with 2 players shooting a real gun? That whole NAME REDACTED thing? Giving thanks to Sylvester Croom for beating the Gators so he could be fired? A combination of the two?
Comment by Chris — May 6, 2025 @ 3:12 pm
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Chris - love the passion and the backhand props for Manningham (5-78 and 1 td receiving to go with 7-53 and no tds rushing), but I am pretty sure it was Arrington (9-153 and 2 tds) who ran 2,008 post routes and was uncovered for every one of them.
Comment by maskedavenger — May 6, 2025 @ 3:24 pm
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Chris @ 25 Funny you should mention the Rose Bowl; I was watching that last night, and “next year’s National Champions” was not what came to mind while watching the Illini.
Comment by DC Trojan — May 6, 2025 @ 3:36 pm
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Chris:
Miss State hasn’t been awarded their full allotment of points, and could be headed for a higher point total given the severity of the charges. We can only assess what is charged, not what will be charged.
And how that happens are the powers that be dinging the Illini player in questions with three felonies and two misdemeanors
We do owe Sylvester Croom for precipitating his firing. And so do you: as bad as [NAME REDACTED] can be in a game situaion, he’s no Ron Turner.
Comment by Orson Swindle — May 6, 2025 @ 4:07 pm
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Don’t expect that point total to go up, Haters.
STARKVILLE - Two former Mississippi State football players won’t serve jail time for their roles in a March 27 gunfire incident on the school’s campus.
Quinton Wesley, a former MSU defensive tackle, was sentenced to three years probation today by Oktibbeha County Circuit Judge Lee Howard. Michael Brown, a former offensive tackle, was sentenced to two years probation.
**Both pleaded guilty last week to possession of a firearm on educational property. ** The two were dismissed from school and the MSU team immediately following the incident.
Wesley’s sentence was stiffer than Brown’s because Wesley had a prior misdemeanor conviction for simple assault in 2006, Howard said.
Wesley was fined $2,000 plus court costs and Brown was fined $1,200 plus court costs. Both former players will have to undergo mandatory drug and alcohol testing and avoid further trouble during their probation terms, which are suspended prison sentences.
The two learned their sentences in front of a handful of family members in an Oktibbeha County circuit courtroom. Attorneys for both men said their clients wouldn’t comment.
http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080506/SPORTS030102/80506026
Comment by hailstate — May 6, 2025 @ 4:47 pm
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Who’s in the lead for the Ellis T. Jones award?
Comment by John — May 6, 2025 @ 5:51 pm
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the basketball scene wasn’t bad
“You just gotta go out there and take it one game at a time”
“Elliot(whatever his last name was) spitting glass at ya ass”
Comment by SpookyJuice — May 6, 2025 @ 6:22 pm
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Eh, a conflict of laws issue.
Having had the fortune of living in Jackson Miss. for 5 years, and 4 years in Chicago, it make sense that firing a starter pistol draws more legal wrath from the authorities than 2 individuals shooting a real gun.
Comment by Chris — May 6, 2025 @ 7:26 pm
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Eh, Chris, Zook has not beaten Iowa-EVER, so you guys may want to start there before talking about NC.
Comment by RJ — May 7, 2025 @ 9:18 am
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Great story and thanks for keeping track of this stuff. The great Palouse is something else. Paul Wulff has got his hands full.
The title to the article is slightly incorrect. It should be “Coug’d it” not “Cougar’d it.” This is a common phrase in the Pacific Northwest that originally referred to the Coug’s tendency to go 7-0 only to lose all their games in November. Or Coug’s being up by 17 to USC only to lose the game. The phrase has transcended sports and has moved into the daily lexicon.
Blow a job interview “I Coug’d it.” Fail to close the deal with a girl, “Coug’d it.” Didn’t get the expected sale, “Really Coug’d that one.” Failed the class final, you got it now.
Comment by Cas — May 7, 2025 @ 10:41 am