CURIOUS INDEX, 12/2/08
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Then I see Rose Bowl slots walk awaayyyyy… So many people have come and gone. Their faces fade as they run on by…[/sung by Oregon State defenders to anyone carrying the ball against Oregon] Weirdest. Soundtrack choice. Ever. (Well, there is this. But for now, using Boston holds the crown.) HUR HURR A GURL. Joel does the just thing with the A GURL TOUCH TOUCH crowd re: Layla Kiffin, who will now be the upskirt shot target for hundreds of internet papparazzi. Incidentally, he’s pretty happy with the initial presser, though the idea of a coach saying something interesting at a press conference clearly had the K-ville press corps on their backs with bellies exposed begging for a tummy rub. Doing something, at least. It’s message board spec, but someone’s head should roll after the hemophiliac defense played in Baton Rouge this year. One particular juicy rumor now involves a struggle for the soul of the Orgeron, who after being rumored to be a lock for Lane Kiffin’s staff may have LSU piling up the pelt wagon to trade with the Great Furrier himself to come and repair their defense. While we’re tossing out rumors willy-nilly: Texas boards have Will Muschamp providing defensive tips for Mizzou against Oklahoma for the JV Bowl this weekend. If you see a wildly gesticulating man in Groucho glasses and top hat screaming “YOU AIN’T HURT” at Mizzou players, you’ll know the fix is in. Legal pads, beware. Thanks to our ROCK STAR PRESS BOX ACCESS we get whenever they decide to let commoners like us in the booth, we’ve seen Tony Barnhart’s frenzied legal pad scribblings in person, and they are frenzied and epic. There’s a legal pad, a cell phone, a pen, and Barnhart talking rapidly and drawing lots of names into little boxes graphed out on the paper in a dead-sprint to figure out who’s in what bowl before anyone else does. His current edition of bowl projections has Florida in New Orleans, and has the Orange Bowl as Virginia Tech/BC versus Cincinnati. This means the Orange Bowl is going to suck, suck, suck on a level of suckosity as it has only dreamt of prior to this moment in the history of suck. |
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If Barnhardt is right, I move to change the name of the Orange Bowl to the Hellman’s Bowl. Because Malaise always tastes like Mayonnaise. Damn that is going to an awful game to watch.
Comment by BurritoBrosShits — December 2, 2025 @ 9:41 am
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How all of a sudden is the Shrimper considered a defensive genius? Unless of course Red Bull intake is directly related to getting pressure on a quarterback…in that case, carry on.
Comment by Bunkie Perkins — December 2, 2025 @ 9:43 am
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Muschamp’s sole tip: get a new defensive coordinator.
Comment by ChasingMizzou — December 2, 2025 @ 9:47 am
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$%^& Ducks! Take it away, take it away!
Comment by tzubear — December 2, 2025 @ 9:47 am
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The Orgeron & The Hat.?!?! Ummm. Power struggle between Hat and Kiffkin (I can’t believe I missed the Live Blog yesterday - what a way to spend lunch?)?. This is just too good. The precise opposite of the prospective Orange Bowl.
Comment by marcillac — December 2, 2025 @ 9:55 am
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Wonder if I can buy that ’stone in the water’ song in iTunes?
Comment by ALGator — December 2, 2025 @ 9:57 am
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Getting information from TexAgs.com is like asking for complete and truthful financial specs from Richard Fuld.
Comment by blon — December 2, 2025 @ 10:01 am
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The Orange Bowl will only suck because some half-assed ACC team will be on the field with the Bearcats.
Comment by OhioDawg — December 2, 2025 @ 10:08 am
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“His current edition of bowl projections has Florida in New Orleans…”
I see what you are doing there Orson. Quit trying to play down expectations for Florida. We all know that Florida is going to kill Alabama and win the BCS title game. Damn you Orson!
Comment by Kenny — December 2, 2025 @ 10:12 am
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Last I checked, the Horns were not in the SEC or ACC, and wouldn’t be subject to their tie break rules. All they had to do was make one tackle or catch one tipped ball. Why isn’t Ole Miss in the SEC championship game? They beat Florida head to head. Of course, if the tables were turned, I’d be whining, but that’s not the point.
Comment by HeadThief — December 2, 2025 @ 10:17 am
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How in the world did Florida score 45 points on this field? Hell, tuba players can’t even keep their footing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thqdFXjH-uA
Comment by Mich-Placed Gator — December 2, 2025 @ 10:18 am
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i feel bad for texas - i really do, which is saying a lot because i hate them more than auburn hates the forward pass - they had a great season and caught the short end of the stick, and it sucks for them
but
when will the crying end? new crybaby websites popping up everyday, fans renting airplanes to fly around another team’s game, mack coming on in the 3rd quarter of the OU/OSU game to whine and moan…it just won’t end - we get it, you feel like you got screwed, and justifiably so - as a fan, i can understand your anger; but as a rival, i can’t help but point out that your whiney, crybaby sense of entitlement, overblown sense of self-importance, childish inferiority complex towards big brother up north, and complete lack of class is why you’re moving from sympathetic to just plain pathetic
if texas really believes all the crap they’re spouting about how unjust the system is, then they should decline a fiesta bowl invite and let texas tech go, since tech beat them head to head
Comment by okiedomer — December 2, 2025 @ 10:23 am
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Orgeron apparently doesnt want to recruit anymore, so the boards are saying. If thats the case maybe a coordinators job at LSU is best for him, and best for the SEC because with Reaves, Orgeron, and Kiffin’s reputations as world-class recruiters, the conference could be in for a rude awakening. You know Monte will go to UT eventually, he’s 69 fucking years old, the salary doesnt mean shit.
LSU needs something, this Dual-DC shit has to go. I’d like to see them get Clemson’s Vic Koenning or TCU’s Dick Bumpas…..assuming either leaves where they are.
But then, I’d like to see Clemson get Bumpas too.
Comment by drb — December 2, 2025 @ 10:32 am
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Kiffin - Notre Dame - Tenn Rumors Dept:
On LA sports talk radio yesterday the most interesting rumor of the day was bonehead Jimmie Clausen transferring out of Notre dame (as soon as the other bonehead - Belt Abuser Pear Bryant gets whacked) to Kiffin’s Tennessee….why? Clausen’s family is from Tenn, I think, his brothers played there, and Kiffin recruited him out of high school. ((((If Petros Papadakis said this stuff….then in MUST be true (heavy on the sarcasm)))).
Comment by Stacy Keibler Luvs Ms — December 2, 2025 @ 10:36 am
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Holly Kiffin Question Dept:
What does Holly think about her new coach?
Does she still think the AD is a goat abuser for making such a bad hire?
Comment by Stacy Keibler Luvs Me — December 2, 2025 @ 10:39 am
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Hear hear, okiedomer. Everyone’s been ignoring the fact that it was a THREE way tie for the South. OU wins it based on point differential vs. the other two teams (+34, compared to +4 for UT and -38 for TT).
Just be glad we’re not in the SWC anymore, where the tie was broken by previous suckitude.
As for the OB, BC/Cincy will be the 2005 Rose Bowl compared to Louisville/Wake Forest.
Comment by Raider Red — December 2, 2025 @ 10:44 am
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I can’t believe Orgeron would not want to recruit anymore after reading “Meat Market”. Seems impossible.
Comment by Darkknight — December 2, 2025 @ 10:46 am
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@ #10
Your statement regarding Ole Miss in the SEC Championship instead of Florida might hold water if a) UF and Ole Miss were in the same division of the SEC and b) both teams finished with the same conference record. As neither a nor b holds true, the comparison is not at all appropriate.
For my part, I was hoping TTech would fall to Baylor and prevent this B12 South clusterfuck scenario, but pinning one’s hopes to Baylor football is never a good plan. Maybe Texas can emulate UGA circa 2007 bowl season: Miss out on conference championship game, decimate overmatched bowl opponent, spend offseason bemoaning unjust system etc.
Comment by SteveO — December 2, 2025 @ 10:52 am
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The nepotism that’s being bandied around at Rocky Top is enough to make the House of Tutor blush. A regular coaches meeting could very well turn out to be a Family Reunion before too long.
Comment by SuperJew — December 2, 2025 @ 11:05 am
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#8 - why the hate?
The only reason the bearcats are in the orange bowl is because VT & BC left the big east.
CRH
Comment by Col. Robert Hornblower — December 2, 2025 @ 11:07 am
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and if Oklahoma loses to Missouri, then shouldn’t Tech advance to the championship game rather than Texas, since that was decided on the field?
Comment by oc phil — December 2, 2025 @ 11:11 am
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blon @7:
not exactly… remember it was TexAgs that broke the story on Rhett Bomar in March 2006, months before it hit the papers in August.
Comment by CincySooner — December 2, 2025 @ 11:38 am
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I’ve refrained from commenting on the OU/Texas situation because part of me (not all of me) thinks that it should be Texas in the B12CG, but I’ve got to say something comparing the two teams.
Looking at the entire season, not just one game, OU and Texas are differentiated by a hairsbreadth. Margin of Victory. Out of Conference Strength of Schedule. In Conference Strength of Schedule. On-Field Statistics. Home and Away Comparisons. and yes, I’ll say it… head-to-head competition. Some factors favored OU, some favored Texas. The cummulative results of the entire season separated OU from Texas by the slimmest of margins. This time, the BCS rated OU above Texas by a very small margin.
It stinks, but those were the rules agreed upon by some Big XII Conference Rules Committee 12 years ago when the conference was formed. The current Big XII Commissioner was commissioner of the Ohio Valley Conference. None of the current head coaches were head coaches in the Big XII in 1996.
The system stinks, but it abides by the set of rules put in place for the 2008 season.
Comment by CincySooner — December 2, 2025 @ 11:54 am
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CincySooner - you sound reasonable and balanced. Are you sure you’re a Sooner fan? I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, and thanks for presenting a reasonable point of view.
Comment by HeadThief — December 2, 2025 @ 12:03 pm
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You’ve clearly forgotten the craptacular ‘99 Orange Bowl when Florida rolled Syracuse with and without Doug Johnson and Donovan McNabb showed promise of a future as a big game sideline puker.
Comment by bobcatpete — December 2, 2025 @ 12:13 pm
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#22 So, they actually got one right. Read TexAgs for pure entertainment only.
#23 And yes, the Big 12 stinks. For everyone involved. OU and Texas are the two best teams in the conference and should go head-to-head for the title. (Sorry, Missouri.) The conference should trash the divisions and play as an 11 team conference. No preseason games, all conference opponents and every game counts.
Comment by blon — December 2, 2025 @ 12:26 pm
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I meant a 12 team conference…
Comment by blon — December 2, 2025 @ 12:55 pm
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OhioDawg at #8,
Which is more depressing,
a) You live in Ohio
b) Your team (UGA) lost to its rival (GT), who previously lost to one of your referenced ‘half-ass ACC teams’ (VT) who will be on the field with your Bearcats.
If you support an SEC school not named Alabama or Florida, please refrain from badmouthing the ACC. The rest of you were owned this year.
Comment by ACC — December 2, 2025 @ 2:09 pm
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@SKLM-Kiffin…I don’t know. It’s not a horrible idea like, say, Butch Davis, but he’s such an unknown quantity as a coach. Anyone making blanket statements about this being an excellent or terrible hire is out of their tree. The staff he’s putting together looks promising, though.
What I do know: Mike Hamilton fucks goats, for money. This is unassailable fact.
Comment by Holly — December 2, 2025 @ 6:51 pm
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HA - I love the http://www.JVBowl.com - CLASSIC!!
Comment by John Mitchell — December 3, 2025 @ 1:38 pm