EDSBS FILM CLUB: THE PROGRAM, ACT 2
Part One of our close examination of The Program is here. Part two begins below.
35:15 As Mr. Hall and I pass the thirty minute mark, The Program continues to remind us that steroids will ruin your life by helping you become a starter on defense and making you impervious to pain. This scene was actually a shot for shot remake of home video showing Bill Romanowski celebrating a Scattergories, Jr. win over his nephew. Is smashing a window with your head for no reason something only an SEC player would do? No, but suffering no legal ramifications for it certainly is. (SEC +1) -- RHJ
(2) Exfoliation is a private affair. We are not one to determine how and where you do it, Lattimer. You do it however you need to do it. (Fleet Week! Remember! It's coming soon, girl!) This was shot in Columbia, South Carolina, where cars with smashed windows are so normal the only unusual local response to this scene was "Well look at those fancy people with their unsmashed windahs. Serves 'em right." Then they returned to their piles of burning tires and bingo parlors, the world restored to its proper axis again. (Columbia's not like that at all, he said, lying his ass off.)
Steroids are bad, and that's why this looks like so much fun. Remember that, children.
--O/S
30:18 Wait, wait. We have to back up for a second.
James Caan walks around in most of his movies like he's just been stabbed in the solar plexus, and yes hahaha that's always kind of our favorite James Caan gag, because watch him limp! It's the most intimidating limp in all of American cinema, and that includes Rudy Ray Moore and the AT-AT. They both lose to fights in James Caan in every simulation we have made, and do so badly.
Yet we cannot move on without noting that in this scene, Coach basically steals Joe Kane's motorcycle. For his own good. Takes it for a spin. To the dog track. Where he exchanges it for some tips. Loses big. Has to fight a bookie and some fake muscle to get out alive. Flags down a trucker. Talks him into stopping by the liquor store. They split a bottle of Glenmore Gin in the plastic combat jug. You know, the one with the handle. This is his new offensive line coach though he doesn't know it until the next morning when they wake up in a bank with sirens blaring outside. They sprint out the back and hide in the woods for a few hours. Typical Caan Thursday.
Seriously, though. James Caan stole this motorcycle and threw it down an elevator shaft. Why? Who's asking why?
[stabs with pen knife]
[limps]
James Caan says we can proceed now. --O/S
33:11 HAHAHAHA watching Mississippi State's offense under Jackie Sherrill and calling out different formations.
This is supposed to show that Alvin Mack is smart, but not book-smart. This will later become the salt-shaker scene in The Blind Side, which really happened and OH GOD OUR SOCIETY IS A COMPLETE FAILURE---
It's not like calling out your assignments against a Jackie Sherrill offense was that hard. They ran like five plays, and one was "Wayne Madkin breaks contain and does stuff." Simple, and completely unblockable when they started running downhill, but not the intellectual litmus test. Oh wait we're sorry David S. Ward . You go right ahead and fly this plane, Alvin Mack. It can't be harder than your assignments in a 4-3 against a 1992 paleolithic offense. WE'RE GONNA BE OKAY, PEOPLE. ALVIN MACK IS FLYING THIS PLANE.
(Also: "kill everybody" was Vontaze's whole playbook, and that did not work out for him at all.) --OS
36:04
The natives are restless--SAILS ON THE HORIZON, BOYS! So many of Lattimer's problems are solved by a closeted homosexuality plotline, except the one where he gets confused about which team he's playing for and starts putting Florida State war paint on his face. Yeah dude but I'm 1/32 Cherokee. Why yes you are, snowflake. Here's a dreamcatcher and a copy of Thunderheart on DVD. --O/S
37:04 Lattimer and Alvin Mack spit into each other's mouths. #fleetweek--O/S
39:28 "L'il Poo-butt motherfucker" better be a blitz package name somewhere in this wide world of football, or we have all failed. Alvin Mack yelling at a terrified running back is one of the few moments in the film we actually believe, or at least forget we're watching The Program and just let Alvin Mack go bonkers envisioning the man who shot his mother. (Who is alive, but viva la visualization.) "I'm gonna bust your gut open and watch you die." Yes you are, Alvin Mack. Double bonus points for the cutback annihilation by Lattimer.--O/S
39:44 Most sports films - and this one is, by and large, no exception - take a number of liberties with their subject game for purposes of economy and drama. But we must tip our hats to the writers here, for there is no more accurate portrayal of Jackie Sherrill era Mississippi State than to have the first two plays of the season be 1. a turnover lost by the Bulldog offense and 2. a touchdown immediately given up by the Bulldog defense. -- RHJ
41:15 Thus concludes the only thirty seconds of cinema ever devoted to the thankless work of being a lineman. "Nice pass. Wish I'd seen it." There is a lot of necessary concision here, but The Program does attempt to actually show everything that goes into a single play. This is why football generally makes lousy movie material: it's hectic, contains 22 moving parts at any given time, and can't be isolated into the kind of one-on-one matchup that makes baseball and boxing scenes so camera-friendly.
You have three choices. The Replacements takes the QB-friendly approach, where he's this Byronic hero getting hammered by faceless hate-beasts. M*A*S*H just shows outright chaos, shit-talking, cheating, and ends the football game with a center-eligible play. Naturally this is our sentimental favorite, right down to the quick cut to the lineman pre-snap yelling "Alright, bub, your fucking head's coming right off."
It also makes no attempt to explain what is happening, something only The Program has really attempted. We now return to making Fleet Week jokes. --O/S
42:38 ESU closes the door on this game when Lattimer gets a sack by bear hugging the quarterback's face.
No flag is thrown. PENN WAGERS LEARNED IT FROM WATCHING YOU, MOVIE REF. (+1 SEC). -- RHJ
43:16
INVISIBUL NUTRISYSTEM DICK. Hasn't aged a day, we tell ya! It's reversed, because in this world Chris Berman is on the television and you are not throwing large bolts and scrap metal at your screen. --O/S
43:42 ESU players are required to wear jackets and ties to the victory banquet so that boosters have somewhere to stick envelopes of cash. Have you ever tried to subtly slip a hundred bucks to man wearing a leopard print vest and no shirt? This scene is important for one reason only: it gives us one of the greatest credits in movie history.
Many actors have mastered the roles of Othello, Willy Loman, or Brick Pollitt. Only one has dared to become FAT CAT ALUMNUS. -- RHJ
46:29
The Cosby Show is ALL up in your face, Menace 2 Society. Let's just watch David S. Ward rock the fuck out of this moment of deep African-American cultural understanding, since he's got two-thirds of the 1993 white dude's handbook on screen right there, and the other third off-camera just Different World'in' in a sweater made for a 280 lb man. Remember, this is before Ice Cube made movies for 45 year old housewives and conquered racism. It was a good day when he did that, and we thank him for it.
Trent Richardson and Mark Ingram once had this exact fight over an Dodge Challenger full of three-piece suits CLAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY TRAVIS. --O/S
49:52 Let's imagine for a moment that one of Urban Meyer's daughters is attending Ohio State. Further imagine that Joe Bauserman has been granted an additional year of eligibility. (HI LUKE.) Now say that daughter is threatened with expulsion for helping Bauserman cheat on an exam. Would Meyer callously allow her to be thrown out of school without any protest?
The answer is Urban Meyer doesn't know what his children look like and certainly wouldn't allow them in his office in the first place. -- RHJ
53:09
Back off, legless Stephen Colbert. Joe Kane's got two pitchers of beer and some Heisman-grade Ziti to work through before he's finished with his short film, Sullen Minutes At A Fazoli's. No one uses opaque red plastic cups in the future? I don't believe a word you say, Colbert. Not one bit of it. --O/S
57:00
"JOEEEEE! NOOOOOOOOO!"
"It's okay, honey. Charlie Weis was my offensive coordinator my freshman year. This is nothing." Joe explains that the Kane family are "just a bunch of drunks and fuckups." We would suspect Joe Kane knows little of the SEC's history, because this makes him perfect SEC quarterback material. Hey, a football scene's next! Hello, split backs set. We see you so rarely these days. --O/S
58:47 Bo Schembechler cameo! This is actually the coach's second movie credit; he also played General Kael in 1988's Willow. This scene takes place right before the final battle, in which General Kael's forces fall to Arizona State in the Rose Bowl.
Would Bo be calling an SEC or ACC game? Yes, but not without eating unshelled walnuts out of spite. (B10 +1) -- RHJ
59:34 Joe Kane runs in a touchdown to put ESU ahead of Michigan late in the game. Joe Kane is a running quarterback despite having the build of Johnny Weir. Is The Program just an elaborate excuse to inflict tremendous amounts of pain on Craig Sheffer? We've got a little less than an hour left to find out. -- RHJ
Also, a running quarterback devastates a Michigan defense. That is all.--O/S
SUMMARY: An hour into THE PROGRAM, ESU is looking more and more like Peach Bowl material in our Which Conference Is This Team In Chart, as the SEC and the Big 10 are tied with 4 points while the ACC is stuck on 1.
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"Peach Bowl material" "Big 10"
Does Not Compute.
Passing? Who needs passing?
by RamblinWreck007 on Feb 22, 2012 2:50 PM EST reply actions
Peach Bowl has had quite a few Big 10 teams back in the Fulton-County Stadium days
my dad suffered through a rainy game vs. Illinois once, or so he says
They hit the road doing ninety
Leave them steel mills far behind.
Ain't no good life down at the Ford plant
Three guitars or a life of crime.
by Dawg in Beaumont on Feb 22, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Virginia's first ever bowl game was in the Peach Bowl against Purdue
Time is an illusion. Lunchtime, doubly so. now on Twitter
Bo as General Kael
Lloyd Carr never forgave Les Miles for accepting the role of Madmartigan

Writer/Analyst/Head Chef
And the Valley Shook
by Billy Gomila on Feb 22, 2012 2:59 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Could they be an Independant?
Along the lines of a Penn St or FSU back in the day? Lattimer wearing that much make up wouldn’t have gone over well in either the Big 10 or the SEC back in 92 I’d think. ACC may have been more welcoming. I don’t know.
I’m beginning to think the “State” is California, and they’re stuck out in Bakersfield or Fresno or somewhere like that. This movie hurts to think about on so many levels.
And the best part, is that he's Learning.
It would have been fine for them to be independent
Except the coach specifically says at one point they “can still win our conference.”
by Narrow Right on Feb 22, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Gah
You’re totally right. If only he’d said we “Can still get bowl eligible” I’d have still had a shot.
And the best part, is that he's Learning.
So today I realized that The Program and Necessary Roughness share THREE actors
Andrew Bryniarski
Duane Davis
Chris Berman
by Dr. Norris Camacho on Feb 22, 2012 3:15 PM EST reply actions
Is it really "acting" . . .
. . . if you play yourself — and do a shitty job of it?
College sports are to college what genital warts are to genitals. -- Fake Dan Beebe
Et Universitatis Ohioensis delenda est!
Nicholas Cage keeps making movies.
by Dr. Norris Camacho on Feb 22, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
See also: Pacino, Al
For the past 20 years.
Electric dog-polisher, that was a good one. Gasoline-powered turtleneck sweater. Then, of course, I bought some dumb stuff too....
by Burrito Electrico on Feb 22, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
NOM NOM NOM
All the scenery. ALL OF IT.
by Albino Tornado on Feb 22, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT AL PACINO!??!
/seemyicon
by HawkeyeRecon on Feb 22, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
He's a horrible NFL coach.
/Diaz’d
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
If everything I do is wrong, then goddamn, I do it right!
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Feb 23, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
Is that really something to be tauting?
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
If everything I do is wrong, then goddamn, I do it right!
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Feb 23, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Lattimer Leatherface was in NR? Did he actually have any speaking lines?
And where is the correlation between The Program, NR, and Any Given Sunday?
Bryniarski – the ultimate football mark.
Granted, he also was forced to play Zangief in Street Fighter. Poor bastard.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/cb20091122124159/streetfighter/images/0/0e/Zangiefmovie1-1-.jpg
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
If everything I do is wrong, then goddamn, I do it right!
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Feb 23, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
Clearly his best role was Butterfinger in Hudson Hawk
Our fight songs are actually about fighting. And drinking.
TWIT
Didn't he get sawed in half or something in that movie?
"Back in Irish's day you had to kill a man before you were taken seriously in polite society." - Aquaman56 06/25/10
If everything I do is wrong, then goddamn, I do it right!
by Samuel_L_Bronkowitz on Feb 23, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Was that even a penalty in 1993?
Today Lattimer would be summarily executed with a double-bladed axe at the 50 yard line, but I’m pretty sure that sack by face hugging was perfectly legal at the time.
It would have been totally legal.
It is hilarity to go back and listen to Keith Jackson watch someone get decapitated and then say “clean play, part of the game.”
Because college football is too important to be left to the professionals.
by Spencer Hall on Feb 22, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
Whoa, Nellie!
Lattimer with an absolute slobber-knocker on that play. And the quarterback picks his head up off the field and jogs back to the huddle for third and seventeen.
College sports are to college what genital warts are to genitals. -- Fake Dan Beebe
Et Universitatis Ohioensis delenda est!
by DevilGrad on Feb 22, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I've got such a Keith Jackson man-crush
that I wouldn’t even get that mad playing his video game if I turned it over cause I’d get to hear the perfect way he announces: “Fumble!”
They hit the road doing ninety
Leave them steel mills far behind.
Ain't no good life down at the Ford plant
Three guitars or a life of crime.
by Dawg in Beaumont on Feb 22, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
"There's a deep drive to center, Winfield going back..."
“…he hits his head on the wall, and it’s rolling toward second base! Oh, this is a terrible thing for the Padres!”
- actual call
Free at last!
by lhb98 on Feb 22, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
cf. Nebraska at Kansas State, 1998.
I actually had to go check, but yup. Keith called that game.
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Facehuggers???

by Board Certified Scrotologist on Feb 22, 2012 4:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Live from Letohatchee AL
…
by Board Certified Scrotologist on Feb 22, 2012 3:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
As I said on Twitter re: Greg Davis to Iowa
High Fructose Failsyrup.
And because Auburn men and women believe in these things, I believe in Auburn and love it.
With generous helpings of bubble(gum) screen!
Electric dog-polisher, that was a good one. Gasoline-powered turtleneck sweater. Then, of course, I bought some dumb stuff too....
by Burrito Electrico on Feb 22, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
There's no way Ingram and Richardson fought over a Challenger full of suits
We gave Ingram a Yukon Denali full of suits. They traded them (cars, not suits) back and forth.
Velocitas eradico
Sullen Minutes At A Fazoli's
Brings back bad memories of working at a Fazoli’s. My only noteworthy achievement was to date a girl (hey, she came on to me) because I thought it’d get me with her friend. Met them when I was playing breadstick bitch.
/shudder
Sposed to be SEC
Not sure I've ever heard of that game
Also, I haven’t had Fazoli’s in such a long time that I can’t remember if it’s decent or not.
by Cantabrigian_UGA_Fan on Feb 22, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
It has been at least 13 years or so for me I think.
One of the Rock and Roll Space Bandits switched to keytar mode and rocked the mind of a construction worker into hitting the giant lobster with a crane.Batman switched on his Batjet's Bat Sound Absorber and it neutralized all of their hypnotic music.
by Socrates Johnson on Feb 22, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
They sold spaghetti to go in a plastic tub
It resembled a McDonald’s happy meal trick or treat container
by ItsComplicated on Feb 22, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
At least some places have upgraded to real plates and utensils
Honestly, I like it. My family just doesn’t have that much luck finding them sometimes.
by Narrow Right on Feb 22, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
was her friend a nice guy?
I’ll grovel, as I do.
by dirt sandwich on Feb 22, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I miss those days. :C
“Wayne Madkin breaks contain and does stuff.”
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GTHTSUN
"Bicycle is new poverty mule. " - Spencer Prokhorov
I was actually at student at South Carolina at the time they filmed those game scenes in Williams-Brice.
They were shot at half-time. One game was against Tennessee on Halloween. Amazingly, Carolina won that game behind Steve Taneyhill. It pretty much was the final nail in Johnny Majors’ coffin that year. The Great Pumpkin took over UT after that.

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