WRITER: "OHIO STADIUM IS NOT LOUD." OHIO STADIUM: "ROOARRRRRGGHHHH"
by Spencer Hall on Sep 8, 2010 1:15 PM EDT
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PrintStadium loudness is a tricky thing, dependent on many variables. The stadium must first be built in a sound-friendly fashion, as Oregon's Autzen Stadium is. The steep concrete banks and closed ends turn a small but rabid crowd from WAC-sized cheering section into a horde of bees with megaphones capable of reaching 127 decibels of hatenoise. The same principles explain why Michigan stadium, hallowed though its gently sloped bleachers might be, doesn't generate the same noise. (Well, that and old people shaking keys who just grimly stare and likely think Denard Robinson is just out there hoolyfootin' and lollygaggin' around instead of handing the ball to the running back like he should.)
The fans actually have to show up and care, too. This element is missing from Miami Hurricanes games, both because of their relatively small fanbase and their venue, Sun Life Stadium, the former Landshark/Pro Player/Joe Robbie stadium, a brightly colored multipurpose heap located nowhere near Miami's campus. It's a cavernous game environment, and a step down from even the decrepit Orange Bowl, a frying pan that randomly leaked sewage and rotting chunks of concrete and gave Miami's games an added edge of danger in being seconds away from falling down at any minute.
But hey, your stadium ain't shit anyway, Ohio State.
The Horseshoe doesn’t come close to The Swamp in Gainesville or Neyland Stadium in Knoxville or a night game at LSU. Those places create a home-field advantage that makes a difference. In conference, Virginia Tech and Clemson are tougher places to play than The Horseshoe. FSU, for a Miami game, is too.
Nevermind that none of the players seemed to back this up, and in fact mentioned how "crazy" the environment in the 'Shoe could be. CONTENT. At least we have the decency to just admit it when we have nothing and just submit pictures of hand turkeys as a post. We'd love to accuse the Big Ten in general of being just as sleepy and geriatric as many of its stadiums indeed are, but Penn State and Ohio State are both loud as Satan's pizza and beer farts, and just as noxious to play in as an opponent.* It's going to be hellaciously loud on Saturday night, and the old folks will just turn their hearing aids off if it bothers them too much.
*Unless you're Iowa. UP TOP, BHGP!
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2. DIF'ers
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
The VT cheerleaders...
…who kept crowding in front of the camera every time the ref went to the replay camera.
Actually, I kind of liked that, so I’ll change my vote to the Oklahoma band.
6. michigan's cheerleaders
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
by Londonjoe on Sep 8, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
7. The Texas Marching Band
Because this should never have happened:
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
I disagree to the Nth
Miami is crazy talented.
Yes yes...
I forgot how six points is a ‘curb stomping’ in the Big Ten. the rest of college football fears the mighty Big Ten.
No, none of this is sarcasm, why do you ask?
by The Commenter Formerly Known as Not You on Sep 8, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I was at that game, it was glorious
Miami scored on the first drive after a huge opening kickoff deep into Wisconsin territory and then not again until about a minute left. Wisconsin had the ball for almost 40 minutes and racked up almost twice as many yards. The only reason the game was even as close as it ended up, was due to three Wisconsin turnovers. The Hurricanes couldn’t move the ball at all for the majority of the game. I felt good about the game the minute the Miami players started huddling around the sideline heaters because the temperature had fallen below 60.
A Notre Dame Grad, born and raised in Wisconsin... life put me in the express lane to alcoholism.
They would have totally won if it would have been humid.
Cause you know, humidity is for tough guys.
My balls are flowing.
Hi Kettle, my name is Pot.
Okay, so we (Big Ten fans) don’t enjoy being the victims of blatant over-generalization (slow, backwards, plodding, etc).
But your constant passive-aggressive, dickish windbag approach is just as stupid.
If UM stinks because of one poor showing in an inter-conference match-up, umm, tOSU has no fucking chance on Saturday. And I’ll be in the c-deck for no other reason than having my heart destroyed again.
I have no problem with saying it was a good win for Wisky...
but ‘curb stomping’? Really? I’d kind of expect more domination on both sides of the ball for that description, not just on defense…
by The Commenter Formerly Known as Not You on Sep 9, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Ohio Stadium is cute for the Big Ten. Tailgate Lots full of people who spent their pregames with a fine bottle of Cook’s, a good Bob Hope CD, and the traditional fiber laced bran muffin.
Jesus
Pull your head out of your ass. The meme is “cases of busch lite and skoal tins”. Get your fucking internet game straight.
by Onestatewest on Sep 8, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You forgot
Shit-filled styrofoam coolers.
One can only hope that this affront will bring the Subcommandante out of hiding.
I can't believe you left out this gem from Damien Berry
"I really don’t think it’s going to have an effect on us because wherever Miami is…[Young] Jeezy said it best, ‘We’re going to bring the whole city out.’ Everybody wants to come see us. They ain’t coming just to see Ohio State."
Sounds like the coolest book club ever.
/UUUUUUUUUUUU’d
Yeah, since a Penn State guy would know...
what are you guys, 3-10 vs. Michigan? Something in that ballpark?
That picture with caption is another reason
that I think Spencer is a closet Buckeye fan. He seems to know us too well and he is BFF with Subcommandante Wayne.
If there was a caption contest, that would have won.
by Crabapple Buck on Sep 8, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Da U knows
all about home field advantage.
Brian Kelly says it's fine.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Sep 8, 2010 1:40 PM EDT reply actions
We need to just admit this.
Your personal experience at any given stadium can be wildly influenced by the random group of individuals within 30 ft of wherever you’re sitting. All my recent games at the ‘Shoe have been in the student section. The students, as you would expect, go fucking nuts during the game. Especially if we’re playing a big opponent and the game is close. When that happens, every last kid in the stands may as well be a ’shroomed-up Berzerker.
But if you happen to be sitting around a bunch of boring people, as can happen anywhere, then tough luck. Your stadium experience won’t be the best. But let’s hold back on the judgments. You’re not hearing what the players on the field are hearing. In fact, the only Miami player in that article quoted as actually saying something about Ohio Stadium said he’d been to a game there before and that it was a “crazy environment.” So, like, what the fuck, Steve Gorten of the Miami Sun-Sentinel? Quit being such a retard.
Crazy environments are not always loud.
See: just about any Warhol film.
by D Funk's Crunk on Sep 8, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm a Miami fan
Ignore that guy. He is a brand new blogger who took over for Shandel at the Sentinal. He was doing a pretty good job up until this morning when I read that. Stupid. He also went to UF so that may explain his stupidity….OHHHHHHH DAMN
Points for invention, but points deducted for lack of accusation of homosexuality.
Because college football is too important to be left to the professionals.
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by Chekhov's Spread Gun Option on Sep 8, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
He also worked for the Tampa Tribune
Or as I like to call it, the Golden Corral of Florida journalism.
by Run Home Jack on Sep 8, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
The thing to remember
is that its 100k Ohio State fans. It’s not really a matter of sound, its a general fear they might realize that their team might do better if they storm the field and dismember the opposition.
Reality has a little-known Northwestern bias
NU prez knows how to get PUMPED
WOO UP TOP SPENCER
Before you respond, let me remind you: Brian Cook called me smug, which makes me the Obama of smugness. I'm basically Smugbama.
Loudness is different in the stands than it is on the field
Going to Baton Rouge I remember thinking people were full of crap. It really wasn’t that loud, but players tell you something completely different.
^this...
I could probably count the number of times I’ve heard any stadium be rock concert loud on two hands… and every one of those instances is a momentary noise gain due to a big play.
That kind of noise is unsustainable, but with a stadium built the right way it just bounces from one side to the other and everything from the top down ends up on the playing surface. Of course when I hear 130 DECIBELS, im forced to call bullshit(creative measuring). A loud TV can make it difficult to hear people talk… which is usually what we’re talking about during a football game… 130 dB is jet plane loud, enough to fuck a person up physically if they stay exposed for more than a minute or two.
I have been at games at The Swamp where my ears were ringing afterward and I could tell
that I was speaking in that weird way you speak when you can’t really hear your own voice on the outside.
Very definite physical impact…just not longterm…I hope.
You can barely hear yourself think
is the student section at the Swamp. I had seats about 4 rows behind FSU’s bench when they came to the Swamp one year, and I can confirm that it was just as loud that close to the field as it is in up in the nosebleeds.
Loudest I've ever heard on the road...
Would have to be Alabama in 2005, god they wanted to murder us and devour our children that day. Florida 2001 was pretty loud, but I think going up 14-0 screwed up the whole “it’s a party” dynamic that games at Florida seem to have.
Loudest single moment I’ve ever heard in a stadium was during the 1998 Tennessee-Arkansas game when we recovered the Stoerner fumble. It just devolved into some sort of white noise esque hum. I’ve heard the 2004 Florida game was similar, but unfortunately I was not able to attend.
There was an awful lot of noise out of the Georgia endzone in the 2006 Sugar Bowl
and then Pat White ran for 13 yards and a first down on 3rd-and-10, and Steve Slaton broke a 52-yard TD run a few plays later, and the noise… went away.
Stop dying, you cowards! -- Zapp Brannigan
by An 'eer with a beer on Sep 8, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Last year I saw Arkansas play at Death Valley and the Swamp
We were roughly 15 rows above one of the “this is…” signs at the swamp and we were halfway to the moon in the corner of DV. Both games had exciting moments and finishes but from my experience the Swamp was leaps and bounds louder and more frenzied even though it was a day game.
I’ll admit though, it might have had something to do with LSU’s clock management issue the week before letting some of the air out of the Les Miles balloon.
+1,000,000 for the caption Orson. I'm still laughing.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Sep 8, 2010 2:19 PM EDT reply actions
I just spent my car payment money on stub hub tickets
and I’m bringing my Buckeyezela, motherfuckers.
I can see the conversation with security now...
Security: Is that a vuvuzela in your pants? Those aren’t allowed in the stadium son.
f o u r: No that’s not a vuvuzela, it’s just the reason the ladies love me so much.
OMG NOBODY HAS EVER PLAYED FOOTBALL IN A LOUD STADIUM SQUEEEEEAAL!!!
Why is this news? Miami plays in big stadiums every year, and Ohio State has lost plenty of home games in the MIGHTY SHOE (OMG SO LOUD PEEING MY PANTS!). Nobody has ever played in a loud stadium in college football before, especially not Miami, what will they do? What will America do? I can barely handle the suspense. I know its a slow week but f*ck, seriously? This is the dumbest sh*t I’ve heard in a while…
by Schnellenberger's Mustache on Sep 8, 2010 2:43 PM EDT reply actions
"Miami plays in big stadiums every year"
He’s right. The ’Canes have quietted literally tens of hundreds at places like Duke and UNC-CH.
by GwinnettGamecock on Sep 8, 2010 3:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I can't believe I'm defending the Buckeyes...
but seriously… the last few times Miami has headed to a place that I’d consider somewhat intimidating, they’ve not even been in the game.
51-13 in Norman
44-14 and 31-7 in Blacksburg
26-3 in Gainesville
seriously though...
Those teams were horrendous no matter where they played. They lost to UVA 48-0 at home…
by Schnellenberger's Mustache on Sep 8, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
also,
If you’re trying to tell me that Miami-FSU isn’t a rowdy game every year then I can tell that you have never been to one.
by Schnellenberger's Mustache on Sep 8, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Mmmm hmmm, yessir.
In three years of attending FSU home games there hasn’t been a single game, not even UF, that comes close to the ruckus of when Miami is in town.
I've been at Doak Campbell for Miami/FSU
and in the Horseshoe for countless games. The Miami/FSU game I was at was just last year, so it was a barn-burner, and I was in the student section, so I was at the loudest part. That said, it still didn’t compare to a big game at Ohio Stadium.
Both places were loud, but OSU was a cut above.
"I think so, Brain, but how are we going to get the bacon flavoring into the pencils?"
Fair enough...
I just resent the idea that certain members of the press/fan base seem to think that this game is over before it begins simply because “The Shoe is loud.” I think there are better points of debate an analysis to talk about. Furthermore, Randy Shannon has imported a fuckload of speakers to the practice field and has been blaring deafening crowd noise at practice all week. This blogger who says the shoe is quiet is an idiot, but so is anyone who really thinks that this game is over on Wednesday.
by Schnellenberger's Mustache on Sep 8, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
No way is the game over...
but dismissing the experience of going to one of the top stadiums in the country is a practice that rarely ends well. People always say the fans can say whatever they want since they aren’t the ones that have to be prepared… but I find the mentality of the fans and players are generally closer than one might initially believe.
I find the mentality of the fans and players are generally closer than one might initially believe.
I hope that’s true because then the U mentality will be “Fuck your stadium, lets play football”
by Schnellenberger's Mustache on Sep 8, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Concur
As much as I don’t want to, I must concur. According to tOSU fans and the national press, the 2006 BCSNCG should have been a blow out by tOSU. I can’t tell you how many times I was told Florida couldn’t hang with the speed of tOSU. I laughed then and I laugh now.
Stadiums don’t intimidate, LBs and DEs do.
btw the same could be said about the 2002 NCG
Them that don't know him won't like him and them that do sometimes won't know how to take him. He ain't wrong, he's just different but his pride won't let him do the things that make you think he's right - Ed Bruce
by Steve from Umatilla on Sep 8, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Off-topic, but
if you are going to swear, then swear. Using st*rs makes you look like a 12 year old on an AOL message board.
Doodie, weiner, chickenfucker.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Sep 8, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
You're an asshat
is that better, dicknose?
by Schnellenberger's Mustache on Sep 8, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Better, I guess
Though, I figured someone from the UUUUUUUUUU! could do better than asshat and dicknose. Uncle Luke would be disappointed…
I was going for cheeky, but uncle luke says...
SUCK IT, FUCKFACE!
by Schnellenberger's Mustache on Sep 8, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Good ol' Kruncle Luke....
His reality show was funny. He threw a party for his kids, and wanted to liven up the place, he put on one of his albums, and they looked at him like he was on crack…..
You mark that frame an 8, and you're entering a world of pain
by mrpelicanpants on Sep 8, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't get to catch many Buckeye games but the USC game last year seemed
pretty damned loud. I’ve never heard anybody (other than this buffoon) claim that the shoe was an easy place to play.
Pandemonium Reigns
by Pandemonium Reigns on Sep 8, 2010 2:57 PM EDT reply actions
The Shoe
I’ve been there for HUGE games and not so huge games and it’s loud. VERY loud.
It’s not as loud as Neyland though. Nothing is as loud as Neyland. I left there (after the UT v. UGa game) with ringing in my ears. Only other time I’d had that was listening to the Clash’s first album, two times through, LOUD on headphones.
Neyland was also, at least the day we were there, the most easily navigated stadium in terms of getting food, drink and access to the restrooms.
The view of the graveyard from Sanford, however, is one of the best things in all of college football. Has nothing to do with noise, though, so forget I mentioned it.
Funny, I've always heard the opposite regarding Neyland.
I’ve heard from fans across the SEC that it can get pretty loud, but it’s not very loud considering it’s size. I’ve also been told that once the other team gets up a couple of touchdowns that you might as well be playing on a neutral field.
Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to mentally prepare myself to see the Rebels get back to .500 this weekend after losing to a 1-AA team at home.
Pig Pen this here's Rubber Duck, and I'm about to put the hammer down.
I don't think he's saying that it's like that all the time, just that when it gets loud, it gets really loud.
As Caban stated, you can’t maintain that level for a whole game. We did try for the 2006 game vs. Florida though (until Captain CFL Chris Leak deflated the crowd in the 3rd or 4th qtr, can’t remember). That was the loudest I’d heard Neyland in person up to that point, for pretty much three straight quarters.
Pandemonium Reigns
by Pandemonium Reigns on Sep 8, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
True
When the vols do something big, in a close game. Neyland is extreemly loud
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by Another damn Dan on Sep 8, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno
I’ve been going to the Swamp since I can remember and it’s REALLY loud, the WHOLE game. Like ringing ears for a while after. And for games against teams like Western Kentucky or Northern Illinois. The UF fans were louder in Glendale than tOSU fans if I recall correctly (possible I don’t and just want to remember it that way). I’ve heard numerous opposing fans calling people on their cellphones after games telling them about how loud it is, and oftentimes it’s a fan from another SEC school. However, the only things I have to compare it to are Doak in Tallahassee and Canes games at both the Orange Bowl and SunProJoe and Williams-Brice and a few bowl games. So maybe the noise can be kept up for a whole game. None of those other stadiums did however.
Go Gata - Congresswoman Corrine Brown on the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives.
by Miami Wade County Gator on Sep 8, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Shannon's quote is even better...
Shannon said he doesn’t think his team will be fazed by the frenzy in Columbus on Saturday “because of what we see when you go out [in Miami]. You may see an Alex Rodriguez or one of the Wayans brothers or Dwyane Wade, those are big-name guys. When you go to places that are traditional, like Ohio State or Michigan, it’s great to play there, but you’ve been in awe already.”
The Wayans brothers! Holy shit that would be amazing!
It’s true. I once saw Donny Osmond in Vegas and got so excited my anus literally blew out. We midwestern folk just don’t know how to handle seeing big time celebrities.
My balls are flowing.
by devidee33 on Sep 8, 2010 3:29 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
In defense of the Wayans brothers....
….I’d be excited if I saw Damon cuz “I’m Gonna Git U Sucka” is a fucking masterpiece.
Marlon? Uhhh- not so much.
Yeh man, he O.G'd...OG'D? yeh...Over Gold......
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Rib Joint Customer: Aww, come’on now… look out for a brotha… man… come’on… Hey check this out, why don’t you let me get a sip for fifteen cents
Hammer: [Pissed] My cups cost more than fifteen cents!
Rib Joint Customer: Alright, F – - the cup, pour it in my hands for a dime
Hammer: [Grabs him by his shirt] Look you greasy hair Jheri curl wearin – - Pay me & get the hell out of my store
Rib Joint Customer: [Takes out change, counts it] …
[Then, pulls out a HUGE wad of bills]
Rib Joint Customer: … You got change for a hundred???!!!!
You mark that frame an 8, and you're entering a world of pain
by mrpelicanpants on Sep 8, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I have been to the Ol' Horseshoe by the banks of the Olentangy (said like Keith Jackson)
for probably a 100+ games. I think the loudest 2 games I’ve been to are Michigan in 2006 and U$C last year. I am convinced that the crowd isn’t so much a factor as the guys wearing uniforms. In particular, I favor the men in scarlet and gray. Miami has the ability to talk, but tOSU has the ability to shut up and play football. Since it isn’t a debate, I’ll take the Buckeyes.
Over/under on Miami unsportsmanlike penalties is 2.5. After watching Robert Marve cost Purdue last week, I’m convinced that even when they are no longer a Cane, the stupid stays in them wherever they go.
by Crabapple Buck on Sep 8, 2010 3:45 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
"I’m convinced that even when they are no longer a Cane, the stupid stays in them wherever they go."
A valid hypothesis, Sir!
There ought to be a better way to start the day than by getting up in the morning.
by General Disarray on Sep 8, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
If you’re not convinced
come to Tampa and listen to morning sports radio!
/hatehimsomuchIwontspeakhisname
Them that don't know him won't like him and them that do sometimes won't know how to take him. He ain't wrong, he's just different but his pride won't let him do the things that make you think he's right - Ed Bruce
by Steve from Umatilla on Sep 8, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the best example of documenting crowd noise live vs. on television I've seen...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P1rl701Fm8
Miami @ Clemson, 2005
Loud? Superdome:Bama vs Miami for MNC game....
Roof came off the place when Lamar Thomas got stripped and robbed and molested, stabbed, dismembered and left for dead, all for a holding penalty.
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