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FULMER CUPDATE: GOOD LORD NIGEL CARR HAS BEEN BUSY

The Big Board is updated by Brian. Sometimes he and Reggie Nelson, being the two most well-endowed men on earth, enjoy conducting orchestras together. One holds his baton and keeps time, and the other hits the gong at the finale of the last movement. It's far more moving than one might think, especially when they do Mahler. The lone and impressive update changes the entire scope of the Fulmer Cup 2010, and is explained at length below. 

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We may have a new leader at the tali end of July in the Fulmer Cup, proving that four quarters of effort get wins, not three, and that you can never, ever count a Florida school out of the running until the whistle sounds.  Ellis T. Jones reign as the King of the Fulmer Cup persists, but not without a respectable challenge by Nigel Carr of Florida State. 

Jones tallied ten felonies in total in his epic taser/kidnapping/assault spree, a total that created the honorary Ellis T. Jones Award for outstanding individual accomplishment in the field of Fulmer Cupdom. Few men have come close to even approaching those heights since, with only Jimmy Johns and Trent Pupello coming close to equalling the work put in by Jones in the art of being a one-man crime spree. 

We may now add another face to the Mt. Rushmore of student-athlete miscreantism: Florida State's Nigel Carr. Carr began his scoring last week with a citation for marijuana possession on the 22nd. Warming up is important if you want to prevent injury: stretches the ligaments, heats up the tendons, making everything more pliant for the hard work to come. Carr, as we mentioned earlier, is obviously a professional, as demonstrated by his preparation for bigger things. 

Having loosened things up, Carr then went completely klepto-apeshit. 

According to Tallahassee police, Carr burglarized a sport-utility vehicle parked off Hayden Road, across the street from Doak Campbell Stadium. Police say Carr broke into the vehicle, a white Toyota, and stole a "book bag" that contained the victim's "purse and other items," including a sweater. Carr then allegedly dumped some of the stolen contents into a nearby dumpster. In addition, police say Carr stole the victim's credit card, which an officer located on the floorboard of a white car that Carr was allegedly driving. Further, police say Carr is the suspect in the burglary of another vehicle near the Florida State campus. 

That second one involves the theft of a checkbook from a car, and could result in still more charges for the linebacker, something made quite likely since they have video of the incident in question. 

All of this is made even stranger than it already is by Carr's generally good reputation among his teammates and coaches: he was named the most dependable linebacker in spring practice and lauded for his good attitude as one of the players flourishing most in Mark Stoops' new defensive scheme. Carr appeared in thirteen games last season. He wasn't a marginal case clinging to a spot on the depth chart, and wasn't a malingering malcontent obviously seconds away from robbing a bank with a banana in his pocket. Carr had potential, and something this random could and likely will put a serious dent in said potential for years to come. 

[SAD FACES PRESENTED]

Having addressed the peculiar and sad nature of the crimes, the tally must now be made. Carr received two counts of auto burglary, criminal mischief, credit card theft and fraud. All of these are felony counts, and awarded three points each. Add in the marijuana possession charge from last week and the bonus point for sheer aggression/achievement, and Carr pulls down an astonishing seventeen points in a single run. 

This isn't a mere Ellis T. Jones situation, either. In a replay of Alabama's Jimmy Johns-fueled victory in 2008, the Seminoles qualify for the team award thanks to the arrest of Ed Imeokparia in the poorly planned theft of a cellphone earlier this season. Your new leader at twenty points total is Florida State in the late innings of the Fulmer Cup. Your move, license-poor and occasionally drunken Bulldogs of Georgia. 

PS. You say, "Aren't you going to gloat about FSU and Georgia, Florida's two biggest rivals, running 1 and 2a in the standings?" Not with a month left in this thing and the players back in weed-laden, booze-addled Gainesville, we're not.  

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Chances Mr. Carr

Winds up at Ole Miss in a year?

by Billy Gomila on Jul 26, 2010 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

It doesn’t matter if Bowden is the coach or not, FSU players will always find themselves on the wrong side of the law.

"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow

by 49er16 on Jul 26, 2010 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

missing something

No siren? I’m disappointed. Haven’t seen the siren in a while.

by erik_t on Jul 26, 2010 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Until the whistle sounds?

Somewhere, the OBC is smriking*.

*this is not some half-assed assumption, as the OBC is always smirking.

by Jack Fact on Jul 26, 2010 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Did you not see Spurrier at the SEC days?

His community service sentence at SCar is killing him, slowly and surely. He’s a dead man, walking.

The best he could do was a half-hearted jab at Lane Kiffin. Sad, really.

by The Commenter Formerly Known as Not You on Jul 26, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Losing to Vandy back-to-back years will do that to you...

…I know, I know, but it’s all we’ve got to hang our hat on with the OBC. Let us marinate in our delusions. And our Dom ’53.

"Well, if that ain't a show, I'll kiss your ass." - Gov. Jim Folsom Sr. (D-AL), 1948-52

by VandyImport on Jul 26, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

But he's a good keeuhd

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

by Crabapple Buck on Jul 26, 2010 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I'll play John Adams...

…and defend my enemy. Ok, not defend, but rather mitigate. While Mr. Carr’s late-season efforts are impressive, does one player accountable for 85% of a program’s FC points really reflect that school’s “team effort?”

I submit that Carr’s actions be given the respect they are due, and that he alone should be listed atop the board. A single player equaling all of Georgia’s moped-related offenses is no small feat; nay, it’s the type of heroics about which folk songs are written.

by Jack Fact on Jul 26, 2010 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Trent Pupello was responsible for 94.4% of USF's points last year

and we still won the damn thing. Objection overruled.

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by Jamie DeVriend on Jul 26, 2010 1:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Sorry Jack...

Trent Pupello’s charges were eventually dropped and USF still won with 17 points from pistol whipping and 1 point from driving with a suspended license.

FSU enjoy the Fulmer Cup glory.

Go Bulls!

by Leavitt Town on Jul 26, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I like Georgia’s style and I’ll stand behind them all the way. I expect them to emerge out of an alley for a last second victory.
We need the Cup back in the SEC where it belongs.

We are THE tigersthatsaywareagle

by cowcollege on Jul 26, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nice

Georgia will violate the “move over law” and refuse to step aside for FSU.

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by Ronnie D on Jul 26, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'M FREAKING OUT, MAN!

"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther

by Go Big Rev on Jul 26, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are freaking out..

man

Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.

by onebarrelrum on Jul 26, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mr. Christina Hendricks everyone

A true inspiration for all of us who are trying to reach above our station

by BoilerPhil on Jul 26, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really didn't believe it

I looked it up. I still don’t believe it.

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by Ronnie D on Jul 26, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

While the charges are there,

the substance really isn’t. Lots of illegal stuff, no doubt, but a sobering lack of hilarity and violence. B- effort in my opinion.

Contrast this with the Pitt kid last week, whose point-to-style ratio was perhaps the best of the year so far.

The new year approaching, click in. Let’s facelift bar! Open the wardrobe is not yet found love after another the right clothes? So, also waiting for? Immediate action bar!

by Old South on Jul 26, 2010 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I totally agree. I was hoping for a little more. Check and Credit card fraud were listed as charges, but did he manage to get out and start spending? That could appease my appetite for the point total.

Go Bulls!

by Leavitt Town on Jul 26, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have to hand it to him

he really felonied to the echo of the whistle

by Willknowsbest on Jul 26, 2010 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Not really . . .

We have incontrovertable proof that when Nigel Carr steals something in a game, it’s original owner just comes and takes it back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZNZASvxuHc

by JacketDan on Jul 26, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree.

He didn’t even finish the drill. You haven’t hit paydirt until you start liquidating your ill-gotten gains.

That guy from last week who tossed his fist magnet through a window after police showed up and started using their batons? THAT is a finisher, son.

"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther

by Go Big Rev on Jul 26, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fail to see that point total.

2 felonies stemming from one action. 1 felony from another. And that puts FSU on top? No violence, no weapon. And FSU gets put above Tennessee? The team that had a group effort boot stomping of a cop sending him to the ICU? If I didn’t know any better, I would think that your point totals lack objectivity.

Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.

by onebarrelrum on Jul 26, 2010 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

A review:

Five felonies assessed in total. By definition, three points each. That’s fifteen. The bonus point for achievement is purely subjective, and the marijuana point is not.

As for objectivity, we have none. However, we do have rules, and award points by them. We can’t make charges up, and we can’t take them off, either.

by Spencer Hall on Jul 26, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think,

There should be some style points worked in somewhere.

Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.

by onebarrelrum on Jul 26, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nick Saban

Says you need to learn to ignore the rules better.

by SEC Supremacist on Jul 26, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see what you're saying.

But this is still a ridiculous scoring system.

by Tubby Sweetbundle on Jul 26, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's objective out of neccessity...

introduce subjectivity and every team’s fans would be bitching every update… not just the Seminoles.

by Caban on Jul 26, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you can add

points to arrests for violent behavior and do so without upsetting anyone.

Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.

by onebarrelrum on Jul 26, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah...

and I expect a few depending on anyone else getting charged in the Unimaginatively Named Knoxville Bar escapade.

by Caban on Jul 26, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly!
The two burglary charges and the ID charge are 3rd degree felonies (lowest level felonies).

- from TN

Why can’t their be some flexibility regarding the Degree of the felony?

by Tubby Sweetbundle on Jul 26, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because this is not a fucking jurisprudence class

I’m a goddamn law student and budding tax attorney and I don’t bitch this much about rules. So y’all quit your damn griping already and be happy with the gold that Orson gives you.

The new year approaching, click in. Let’s facelift bar! Open the wardrobe is not yet found love after another the right clothes? So, also waiting for? Immediate action bar!

by Old South on Jul 26, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.

by onebarrelrum on Jul 26, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

What wit!

You would be much happier here.

The new year approaching, click in. Let’s facelift bar! Open the wardrobe is not yet found love after another the right clothes? So, also waiting for? Immediate action bar!

by Old South on Jul 26, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I second that

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by Ronnie D on Jul 26, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know that bit about an attorney who represents himself has a fool for a client.

What about a business or agency who hires a fool for a lawyer?

I grant fools the same tolerance and respect Lindsay Lohan grants the legal system. Seriously, "F*** You" on her middle finger in the middle of court when she was eventually sentenced to jail? MORON!

by DancesWithTrojans on Jul 27, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your quibble, sir is with the Knoxville police.

You should call and tell them to stop investigating and start charging. Because Darren Myles and Da’Fendant Rogers can’t do it alone.

by MaconDawg on Jul 26, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the charges are formally filed after the season starts

can Tennessee still be awarded the Cup,or would that risk an angry letter from Tom Osborne about putting time back on the clock?

The University of Texas: superior by law to A&M since the Constitution of 1876.

by LongCat on Jul 26, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not Osborne.

He’ll just take his felonies to a different conference because he’s a sore loser, right, Mr. Blackwell?

"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther

by Go Big Rev on Jul 26, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

awesome

"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero

by Stuck in the Plains on Jul 26, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

The real fault, of course

Is with the criminal justice system.

The new year approaching, click in. Let’s facelift bar! Open the wardrobe is not yet found love after another the right clothes? So, also waiting for? Immediate action bar!

by Old South on Jul 26, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems to be a discrepancy in the point total

Orson sez:

Carr received two counts of auto burglary, criminal mischief, credit card theft and fraud. All of these are felony counts, and awarded three points each.

However, Tomahawk Nation sez:
BURGL OF STRUCTURE CONVEYANCE UNARMED WO PERS INSIDE (2 Counts)
DAMAGE PROP-CRIM MISCH 200 DOLLARS AND UNDER
FRAUD-IMPERSON USE/POSS ID OF ANOTHER PERSON WO CONSENT
THEFT OF CREDIT CARD
The two burglary charges and the ID charge are 3rd degree felonies (lowest level felonies). The other two charges are misdemeanors.

"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke

by MtnEer_in_SC on Jul 26, 2010 2:02 PM EDT reply actions  

If they're filed as misdemeanors....

…then the points total will be reduced, of course.

by Spencer Hall on Jul 26, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kinda where I was going

3 felonies two misdemeanors.

Not an alcoholic, just an FSU grad.

by onebarrelrum on Jul 26, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

My goodness

You do enjoy bitching over innocuous fun with student-athlete antics.

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by Ronnie D on Jul 26, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Consider cutting.

The new year approaching, click in. Let’s facelift bar! Open the wardrobe is not yet found love after another the right clothes? So, also waiting for? Immediate action bar!

by Old South on Jul 26, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Spurrier would say

you can’t spell felonious, without FSU in it.

by Crabapple Buck on Jul 26, 2010 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Bonus Points

I still want to know if the bonus points per incident for number of different offenses committed during the season will ever be enforced.

by AUTigerGSUEagle on Jul 26, 2010 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

seperate incidents...

means a team would really have to be trying

by Caban on Jul 26, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

But a ton of teams have multiple incidents. Take Georgia for example. There are at least 6 different incidents for which they’ve been awarded points. I thought the rules stated that bonus points would begin to be added at the 4th.

by AUTigerGSUEagle on Jul 26, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

Think Georgia is owed ~6 bonus points

by Caban on Jul 26, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s more than that, actually, since bonus points begin to be awarded based off the number of incidents. So the 4th gets 4, 5th gets 5, etc. In which case they’re owed 15 bonus points.

At least that’s how I understood the rules layed out at the Fulmer Cup Processing Station. I could, of course, be completely incorrect since ultimately Fearless Leader is the sole arbitor of points.

by AUTigerGSUEagle on Jul 26, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

well...

if it’s enforced that way, I imagine a future where teams are trying to simply avoid breaking 200 points before August.

by Caban on Jul 26, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe, maybe not. I think Georgia and Oregon are currently the only two teams that fit the bonus point scheme. Tennessee doesn’t because the majority of theirs are from the Bar Knoxville Royal Rumble.

by AUTigerGSUEagle on Jul 26, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a classic contrast of styles

The shock and awe of today’s FSU score or ’Bama’s championship on the back of Jimmy Johns versus the “three yards and a cloud of misdemeanors” approach favored by Georgia. The latter also can win championships. It worked for Marshall in 2006 and puts Iowa in the top ten nearly every year.

Just remember, the Fulmer Cup isn’t over until the last weekend of drinkin’ after two-a-days end and the coeds return to campus.

by DevilGrad on Jul 26, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carr was just a little Overcrunk.

There’s something wrong with this point system for the Fulmer Cup. There is no way in Hell Trent Pupello and Carr should even be close.

by Tubby Sweetbundle on Jul 26, 2010 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

NIGEL’S FELONY SPREE WENT TO 11

/tapp’d

Eat what the monkey eats, then eat the monkey. -U.S. Navy survival guidance

by psudrozz on Jul 26, 2010 2:21 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

It's like, how much more black could this be?

And the answer is none. None more black.

It doesn’t matter how many football games the SEC wins. We will always look down on you.

by devidee33 on Jul 26, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

It doesn’t matter how many football games the SEC wins. We will always look down on you.

by devidee33 on Jul 26, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero

by Stuck in the Plains on Jul 26, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I find this story quite hilarious for some reason.

Just the vision of Nigel “Please” Carr having a tough practice, coming out of the locker room thinking about that bullshit paper he has to write, the hell he’s catching for possessing a plant, the direction his life is heading in general, and coming to the only logical conclusion:

“Fuck it.”

Sure, when we dream of just completely losing our shit (and let there be no doubt, we all do it), we like to dream it ends up in an ISI jail or something, but most of us were never meant for such greatness. I see Carr’s performance here as almost Willy Loman-esque….only his plan involved a checkbook he can’t use, a credit card that would be canceled within 24 hours, and a sweater.

"Got a bill that's big enough to twist the Tiger's tail. Husked some corn and made those SORRY HUSKERS BAIL!"

by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jul 26, 2010 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I see the behavior as less "Death of Salesman"...

and more “Falling Down” in the style of Michael Douglass.

by CincySooner on Jul 27, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Big Ten continues to lose relavence ...

to Southern schools. Demographics be damned! Minny shows themselves to be mere pretenders on the field of battle after all.. a bitter cup indeed.

by Unintelligible on Aug 2, 2010 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

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