2010 SEC MEDIA DAYS: SPURRIER THE WHITE, AT THE TURN OF THE TIDE
by Holly Anderson on Jul 22, 2010 3:15 PM EDT
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PrintTo get this out of the way: Yes, this was a moderate letdown after the Robbie Caldwell Hayride Hour.
• "We may win it this year." HEY I THINK SO TOO. Seriously. Sakerlina over Arkansas in the Dome this December. I will not get off this pony until the Hawgs lose to UTEP.
• "I don't think we've had but one player arrested in two years, and those charges were dropped."
• Twice, he mentions being beaten "soundly" by UConn in the PapaJohns.com Bowl. Visible, audible teeth grinding.
• "Until we prove that we can play on a consistent basis, we've just got hope." Fearless Leader fights back tears and reaches for his harmonica.
• "Should be a heck of a game, our opener against Southern Miss."
• "Players are getting arrested for things that in the old days they did NOT get arrested for. ... They would not go into the tank that night." Simpler times.
• Giving the turkey insemination talk a run for its money: "Hopefully soon we can get over those seven wins and get up in there." Caliente!
• A guy across the room beats me to a Garcia question, and asks it WAY nicer than I was going to (my plan: "Coach, has Stephen Garcia matured, at all?"). Reply: "He should play pretty well." Beat. "If he's the quarterback."
• That said: "Stephen is our starter."
• THAT said: "We got another guy." And, "We'll let it play out." Oh, bother.
• Some jagoff from the Red & Black asks if he's worried about losing his title as most quotable coach. Spurrier graciously refrains from throttling him: "No, I'm not worried about that at all. ... I don't think I've won enough games lately to make outlandish quotes."
• "I never thought I'd get a bigger bonus for our guys graduating than I did for the bowl game."
• "I think I have a pretty good relationship with Stephen...I left him alone this sumer. And I left him alone this spring, pretty much. Let him go play." Stephen Garcia operates on a bungee leash at at all times, like a rambunctious toddler at the mall.
• "I''m not critical of him. He may be playing the best he can. I don't know." SPURRIER TOTALLY LOVES GARCIA AS THOUGH HE WERE HIS OWN SON AND JUST DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO SAY IT. /ilovemydeadgayquarterback'd
• On the Cocks' oft-beleagured O-line: "More juniors and seniors than we've ever had. I read that in the paper. I think it's true."
• It actually took many minutes for him to get asked about his golf game.
• Asked who his greatest rival has been: "Oh, I've really not paid a lot of attention to that. ... Some coaches I like a little better than others, obviously."
• And, to the tiresome point we knew this had to get to, "The former Tennessee coach, I didn't really pay a lot of attention." I sit on my hands to refrain from asking him about his winless record against El Kiffykins.
• Asked about his care with this year's ballot after last year's ballot kerfluffle: "Well, I had Jevan Snead No. 1. Somebody told me he wasn't playing this year!"
• "ALL RIGHT GOOD TO BE HERE SEE YA." I swear, I almost wish for the OBC of old at times like this, even though that involved a lot of making bitchmeat out of my precious alma mater. Let bangs, and not whimpers, be the order of the day once more.
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The OBC is like Ali as the first signs of Parkinson’s presented. Still cracking one-liners, but without the snap or menace.
(No, I’m not comparing a late-career slump to a degenerative disorder. Wait, that’s exactly what I’m doing.)
He's a poor imitation of his former self at this point.
Although, I’ve never really had much respect for him.
It doesn’t matter how many football games the SEC wins. We will always look down on you.
He'd rather be feared than respected
And rather have 8 wins than be feared. I think they may pull that off this year.
Why not?
Or do I not want to go down this road?
I am genuinely curious. Yesterday I was talking with a friend and we agreed that winning the Heisman, building a historically meh program into a powerhouse, and winning a championship with said program with style makes Spurrier among college football’s greatest figures. True, given Florida’s in-state talent, they were always probably a sleeping beast, but credit must be given for talking the beast and turning it into a killing machine.
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Duke were co-champs in 1989
He wasnt just winning games.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
The sad thing is...
he would have stayed at Duke if they had committed to football. They werent interested in giving him a raise and he started looking around and UF came open and that was a no-brainer. But, if Duke had ponied up the dough, he would have let someone else have the Gator job that time around.
I think they have finally, sorta, decided with Cutcliffe to try. I think someday Roof will be a good head coach, but Duke didnt support him.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
Bear Bryant would have stayed at Kentucky
if they had committed to football. If frogs had wings, they would get bird pussy. Life is like that.
Please don't bring that up again
We’ve heard it to no end. We cut ourselves daily for it.
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And he's still the all time winningest coach at UK.
Not many coaches do that at two schools.
Rich Brooks had the chance if he had stayed around a few more seasons, although he lost the title at Oregon in the meantime.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
Florida as sleeping beast
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: da U, FSU, and UF all should have statues of Willis Carrier outside their stadiums.
Yes, because it's hot in Florida.
And humid. Sorry, I didn’t know I’d have to explain it. The state’s wealth of talent arises from the dramatic rise in population, which is (arguably and humorously, I think) related to the advent of air conditioning. All of us Sun Belt states owe Carrier a big debt of gratitude, of course.
Willis Carrier
To match Georgia’s Mr. Peanut?
Maybe
I’m not sure there’s that much of a connection between peanut production and the growth of high school football talent, but ok. Perhaps a Carver statue would be more appropriate, since Mr. Peanut is from Pennsylvania.
I'll stand corrected
We do have a coastal breeze here sometimes though. I don’t know who benefitted more from Mr. Carrier, Fl. or Ga. I’ve spent time in Bainbridge, Alllbenny, Lagrunge,….Fl. and Ga. are hotter than a nine balled tomcat. Let’s call offsetting benefits and a truce.
Not for any grand reasons...
He just always seemed like a beedy eyed turd. Talks a great game when he is on top but sounds just silly when he isn’t. Failed in the NFL (not a big deal I guess). Completely mediocre at South Carolina.
His gimmick offense was great 15 years ago. It’s just old and ineffective now.
It doesn’t matter how many football games the SEC wins. We will always look down on you.
I fahrt in your gen'rul direction
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by MtnEer_in_SC on Jul 22, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
You've been waiting eagerly for a chance to use that, haven't you?
Don’t lie. I know it’s true. And I like it.
Spurrier’s offense could definitely use a facelift, but at its core I think it could be sound. A few big hurdles stand in the way. I think one can be overcome, but I doubt the other can be:
1) His system depends largely on the success of a good play-action attack. And a good play-action attack doesn’t necessarily depend on a great running game, but it does require at least a competent one. Without the play-action, the homerun pass is gone, and with it, the heart of the offense. I think this is fixable. He hasn’t had a solid back and he’s had atrocious, injury-riddled lines incapable of blocking successfully. Recruiting and player development can probably get this up to speed, and this year will tell a LOT as he has his best O-line yet, his first good back in Miles, and obviously the mega-recruit in Lattimore.
2) Defenses have changed enormously in one big way over the past two years: coverage disguising. Spurrier was one of the pioneers of choice routes in college football (where the WR can alter his route based on the coverage). These routes depend greatly on the QB and WR being on the same page. Fifteen years ago you didn’t see much attempt to disguise coverages, as coaches were perpetually freaked out about pre-snap alignment. Now coaches have loosened their alignment restrictions (at least in the secondary) in order to confuse the QB’s pre-snap read. (Notice how much more movement you see pre-snap by the defense than you used to). I’m not sure how the OBC adjusts to that, but I think it can be done: the success of the Run N’ Shoot with June Jones and the Air Raid with Leach attest to the viability of choice route-based schemes even with the severe limit on practice time in college football. But this would still necessitate some changes for the OBC.
3) Defenses have changed in another big way: blitz-happiness. I’m not sure this one can be overcome. The advent of zone-blitzing, as well as the increased popularity of non-traditional blitzes (corner blitzes, safety blitzes) makes protection schemes that much more difficult for a mediocre line. The hyper-aggressive blitzes of the NFL were probably the main culprit behind Spurrier’s NFL woes. Once upon a time, nobody would dare come after Spurrier’s teams for fear of getting burned deep. Now it’s a staple in most defensive coordinator’s books and a big thorn in Spurrier’s side. I don’t see how he’s going to adjust to that.
4) Lastly, OBC’s system is very dependent upon a good quarterback. This is very much against the evolution of football right now. Your Cals, Texases, Floridas, Auburns and Oregons don’t want to hang their fortunes solely on the arm and brain of one quarterback when they have so much talent elsewhere on the field. So they devise schemes where a QB has relatively simple reads. That way, all you need is a serviceable quarterback to put out a very good team (and an excellent QB will send your team into ludicrous speed). Even average teams are employing this because they’re aware of the difficulty of recruiting a good quarterback to their schools. Spurrier’s system will require an accurate deep passer no matter what, so either he regains his ability to recruit/mold good QBs or his system continues to flutter.
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by Old South on Jul 22, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Re: #3
Nebraska 62- Florida 24. It is a change, but its always been a flaw in his system. The fact that the OBC didnt think he needed a blocking back because his WRs were too good was amazing to me at the time. He really thought the Nebraska corners couldnt cover for the 1.2 secs before the QB was hit.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
My favorite game of all-time.
One of the highlights that illustrate your point: Spurrier motioning to a no back set twice in a row from the shadow of his own end zone, and Wuerffel getting sacked twice for a safety.
Hadoken!!
Ya know
a 62-24 score doesn’t really sound like a defensive slugfest of sacktastic proportions. Perhaps if UF hadn’t given up half a hundred by the third quarter, allowed 500+ yards of rushing offense (while rushing for -28 yards all game themselves) and been utterly unable to stop either Frazer (199 yards rushing ) or Phillips (165 yards rushing), they might not have been passing so much.
As it was, Wuerffel passed for 297 yards, usually a pretty good game — but not when you can’t stop the other team from running the ball down your throat.
by An 'eer with a beer on Jul 22, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
How do you think you get -28 net rushing?
Sacks sacks and more sacks. I cant find an actual box score with detailed rushing numbers, but Im guessing Wuerffel was very negative.
3 INTs, 1 returned for a TD. The double sack as mentioned above. And the last 6 UF points came on a KO return late.
It was only 62 because Frazier got pulled for Berringer and Berringer got pulled for the 3rd string QB.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
Found it
9 rushes for -37 yards. Including 7 sacks. And the sackapalooza started well before the game got out of hand, considering UF led at the end of Q1 and the safety only made it 15-10.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
Nebraska/Florida
Did you happen to catch the NC game the following year?
Yep.
Spurrier was able to beat FSU 50% of the time that year.
I dont see how the fact that they were still a damn good team doesnt mean pt #3 isnt valid. The Nebraska game was a proof of #3. No number of wins can undo that.
Was your point that Spurrier learned something from the NU game and changed his system? Is been a while, I dont remember details of those games vs FSU, did he play max protect or something? Because otherwise, all your are saying is that his teams were good enough to win most of the time. Which no one is disagreeing with. The NU game proved his teams werent so superior athletically that he could do idiotic things like have zero blocking backs repeatedly.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
One tiny quibble
The 96 Fiesta Bowl was as much about overwhelming defensive line talent as it was anything else. All four starters for NU had NFL careers, and Grant Wistrom is a recent CFB Hall of Fame inductee. If memory serves, backups on that line also included Chad Kelsay and Mike Rucker, who also played in the NFL. Blitzes were effective that night because a) they didn’t have to come often and b) the Florida line couldn’t stop the down linemen, much less the blitz package. McBride’s defense those years played LBs in blitz looks about 90% of the time, but an actual blitz was not a common thing – far better to make the O line worry about something that wasn’t coming and add that layer of panic to the already-considerable problem of dealing with the Peter brothers and Wistrom.
I’d love to see the OBC vs. the Pelini match-read system Nebraska is currently using – that might tell us something about how the game has evolved, too.
For my money, OBC still has the coaching skills, but he’s gotta raise the talent level to capitalize on his considerable coaching acumen.
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— Martin Luther
I think you are kind of proving my point
A similar, lower level, example:
2008, Gailey’s last year at GT, the entire D line was NFL bound and you had the TENUTA BLITZ defense. BC’s offense line could not stop them. So, what did they do? They played max protect and let Matt Ryan pick apart the GT secondary. When the max protect didnt work, they held and took the 10 yard penalty and tried again.
Against a D like that you dont play an empty backfield. But with the speed of the UF receivers, protect and let the 2 guys running routes get open eventually and Wuerffel could of hit them.
Spurrier didnt think the NU corners could cover man-to-man. And they couldnt for long, but they could for the nanoseconds the blitz took to reach the Wuerffel.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
2007, not 2008, years are blurring
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
Thanks Rev
That is the largest part of my point. The Spurrier system was not a gimmick offense, it was an offense built on speed,deception, timing and usually a stout defense. ‘96 by the way was the UF championship year. ’95 was the dreaded drubbing by Nebraska. Tommy Frazier was from Bradenton Manatee (I think) anf Florida would not consider him for a qb spot. He had an axe to grind and ground it well. the Neb. defense was dominating and caught UF unprepared. The following year they were back in the hunt and found ways to handle the FSU blitz which was considerable. That score, btw was 52-20. Spurrier was and is a hell of a coach. Please don’t kick my dog, please don’t trash the OBC.
I agree about the gimmick offense
The fun and gun wasnt one. Im sick and tired of hearing that about the TO too.
[quck aside: the ’95 season was decided in the 1996 Fiesta Bowl – UF won the ’96 title in the 1997 Sugar Bowl]
The 1996 Fiesta Bowl was won by the NU defense, not Frazier. He just drove the final nails. The Nebraska offense didnt kick into gear until the defense started forcing ints and safeties.
Spurrier was (and maybe still is) a great coach. But that day he refused to make the right adjustments until it was far too late. They may have still lost, the UF defense may have wore down and Frazier still gets his yards, but I think the game isnt a blowout.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
You're right on all counts.
UF got freight trained by a quick, aggressive defense and they should have adjusted and made a game of it at least. Florida was way too talented to look that shitty against Nebraska. It’s hell to see your team get disspirited and disoriented in the big game. It’s hell when you can’t count too.
#4 is interesting to me
Because while its a completely different system, Paul Johnson also needs a good QB. The reads arent simplistic.
Johnson’s methodology involves recruiting athletes at QB so they can be shifted to other positions if they dont work out. A pocket QB may not have another option, so recruiting a basket full of them every year wont work for Spurrier.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
Why, yes. Yes, I have been waiting to use this.
And somehow I just knew that devidee33 would call it out for the first time.
Those birds just crack me up.
"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke
by MtnEer_in_SC on Jul 22, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Iowa 31, USC 3. 2009.
31 – 0 after three. Iowa doesn’t blitz.
USC needs an offensive line. They haven’t presented one. That is all.
Mr. Boh Knows ...
true dat
35-28 (0.555) at USCocks over the past five years may not seem like something to brag about until you realize that it is the best five-year run in Sakerilina’s history.
"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke
by MtnEer_in_SC on Jul 22, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
i was discussing this fact yesterday
with my best friend (who is also a UF grad). He has two siblings that attended the major schools in Sakerilina (one at Clemson and one at USC) and hears all the rumors and chest thumping.
The younger fans don’t seem to truly grasp the heights that Spurrier has taken them to. When compared to UF or UGA they see programs that have 10 win seasons and championships, then they realize that they are a few games over .500 for five years is the best they’ve done and whine.
I enjoyed speaking with some of the older fans I met at a party in Bluffton about how excited they have been for Spurrier. They feel he is finally righting the ship. They are pulling more talent than before and these are kids are ones he recruited and coached for thier entire collegiate career and with that they are truly hoping for a special season this year.
If the lines can hold and little floating McConahey disappears from above Garcias shioulder pads and he buys into Spurriers game plan, they could have a 8-9 win season and possibly make a run at the east provided they get some bounces.
Thier schedule even gives them a significant boost. They get UGA and UT at home and UK and Vandy away. The true test falls again with having to travel to UF, but as we’ve seen before they can win it (or at least be in a position to). Had Moss not had the fabled ‘Cock Block’ in ’06…
by Boozy McHound on Jul 23, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
This happens everywhere
I think the primary split (before the end) over Gailey depended on what era you had become a Tech fan. The 50s/60s/90s guys thought 7 wins was unacceptable. The 70s and 80s guys thought we could do better, but knew we could do a hell of a lot worse. To connect to the trhead, my first two years at Tech the only football win over a 1A team was 34-0 over USCe in 1988.
Stadium was easily 50% USC fans. Loud and obnoxious. And then we got a quick 14-0 lead and suddenly they were silent.
So, anyway, I became a fan during a very low point in GT history (although it got to a high point by my senior year). As I grew up a Kentucky fan, my expectation level for football isnt very hard to reach.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
I see the excitement for this year's team around here too.
Lots of the old time Gamecock faithful that I know are stoked the Spurrier the White has improved the talent level all over the team. However, most are still cautious about the ’Cocks maddening habit of going limp late in the season.
"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke
by MtnEer_in_SC on Jul 23, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I see what you did there.
Rec’d.
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
I guess you’d be the expert on ineffective offenses, huh.
by Synaesthesia on Jul 22, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I see Spurrier the same way I see
the last couple of seasons of ER. Or X-Files. One of those guys who had a GREAT legacy but just didn’t know when to take a bow, exit stage left and make a permanent move to a golf villa in Augusta.
Yes, I live in Starkville...WHO did I piss off in a past life?
by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Jul 22, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Because he's in the SEC?
No other reason
by PalmettoTiger on Jul 22, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
A poor imitation of his former self?
Spurrier is only limited by the pissy ass pool of talent he has to draw from. There is not a college coach alive who does not fear him when he brings a team on the field that’s firing on seven cylinders. Obviously Spurrier never brought your team from doldrums to national prominence. I’ll never forget the OBC and all he accomplished at UF. I guess us old bastards have to stick together.
Pissy ass pool of talent?
I thought the south had five star athletes laying around everywhere.
It doesn’t matter how many football games the SEC wins. We will always look down on you.
You're absolutely right
so we regularly beat you like a rented mule with mediocre talent. I guess it’s all your coaches that suck.
Wait, what?
Which northern teams has Sakerlina been beating like a rented mule with its mediocre talent?
by Abbas_Cincinnatus on Jul 23, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Where do you think all those championship calibre players come from?
After enough years of SEC players banging northern cheerleaders, the gene pool is bound to get more favorable. Chin up Sport, good things are happening.
most important question
Did Spencer nail the OBC’s opening line this year?
Perfectly.
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I will give my shirt for Tennessee today.
by Holly Anderson on Jul 22, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
For the Heathers reference, Holly.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Jul 22, 2010 3:30 PM EDT reply actions
Yes
Back in the day when having bottled water meant you were a fruit, not just bad at consumer math.
by Billy Sims' Fro on Jul 22, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
"Some jagoff from the Red & Black"
I thought Doug stopped writing for them after he graduated? Is there an alumni section now?
Holly was right to call him a jagoff
You know the way 12 year olds look at each other and giggle when the teacher makes a joke that could be taken as a sexual euphamism? I got that exact sense from the Red & Black guy.
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I didn't even catch his name
but every question that bro has asked so far has been fucking asinine.
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by Holly Anderson on Jul 22, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a relatively good idea who you're referring to, btw.
But then I could be wrong and it could in fact be one of the R&B staff who I actually like. So I’m not about to guess.
If he's a true bro...
…he’ll be carrying an Ice to block you.
A witty saying proves nothing. -Voltaire
by Profoundly Vague on Jul 22, 2010 4:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Do you read the Red & Black?
It’s garbage. Most of their sportswriters the past few years have been atrocious (with Fletcher Page as a notable exception). They all either watch ESPN way too much, or they are writing for the sports section because that’s where the demand is, because, let’s face it, no one gives a shit about your variety article involving your friend who is picketing in Tate Plaza to raise awareness against Japanese Bug Fights.
by hailtogeorgia on Jul 22, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
Simply because I did not know Japanese Bug Fights was a real thing.
by commodore_dude on Jul 22, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah.
They’re very real, and very awesome. A scorpion against a rhinocerous beetle? Yes, please.
by hailtogeorgia on Jul 23, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Love Japanese Bug Fights
That is all.
We're all on the Hindenberg. No reason to fight over a window seat.
He touched on the most important thing
His team is crazy inconsistent. If they can consistently play at the upper bounds of their potential, this could very easily be an eight win season for them.
I probably follow the Gamecocks a little more closely than you do
If they play consistently at the upper bounds of their potential this could be a 10 (or possibly 11) win season
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by MtnEer_in_SC on Jul 22, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Sadly, probably my Wildcats
Our starting corner just got academic ineligible’d and it looks like one of our starting DTs did as well. This might be our most athletic defense ever, but it’s also one of the greenest. Who knows who our QB will be, our WRs have lots of potential and have done very little with it (outside of Cobb), we lose 4 starters on our offensive line, and we’re Kentucky. Thank God for the easy schedule.
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Is the other Hartline still on the team?
It doesn’t matter how many football games the SEC wins. We will always look down on you.
Yes
And awful. Would be more than happy to give him to you, but I have no idea how they’re from the same family—this one’s the slowest motherfucker on the planet. No way he could play WR.
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I watched them both play in High school...
I’m actually shocked Mike is playing anything above MAC level D1 football. I know he’s a pretty tall kid though. Hey, they can never take back the Liberty Bowl.
I met their mom once. She litteraly introduces herself as “Brian Hartline’s Mom”.
It doesn’t matter how many football games the SEC wins. We will always look down on you.
He was a 4* QB coming out believe it or not
I don’t feel bad mocking him because he’s an absolute douche. Go to Two Keys on S Limestone in Lexington on any Thursday night if you want to see for yourself. His linemen stand around him protecting him to keep the rednecks from beating his ass—sometimes from the fights they provoke, but more often from the fights he provokes.
Then, of course, there’s his quote when he was demoted from the starting job (temporarily):
You don’t ever expect to win the starting job and then lose it because the guys around you aren’t performing the way they should.
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Oh, I know.
He didn’t all of a sudden become a douche bag upon arriving at UK.
It doesn’t matter how many football games the SEC wins. We will always look down on you.
I said easily
You’re going with potentially. Auburn, Arkansas, Georgia, and LSU could potentially have a 10 or 11 win season this year, but I think South Carolina at its best would beat all of those at their best (based on last year’s performance, probably Auburn would be the toughest.) They have a ton of talent at South Carolina and showed real flashes of it last year. They just need to carry it from series to series and game to game.
Keeping players motivated seems to be a hard thing for older coaches to do though.
I meant "easily"
I think that Sakerilina’s “potential” is a bit higher than you give them credit for. IF SCAR plays consistently at the upper bound of their potential they only lose to ‘Bama and @UF. The 11th win would be their bowl game, and I don’t pick “pig in a poke”.
Potentially, they win either at home against ‘Bama or @UF, but not both. (And I’d bet on @UF before vs ’Bama)
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by MtnEer_in_SC on Jul 24, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with that
But there are lots of mitigating factors on the field. Teams play over their potential every once in a while, so I would definitely not put their games at Auburn and Clemson as wins that if both teams are playing at their potential as easy. There are talent gaps in the SEC, but they aren’t super huge between the middling teams. I tend to give a +/- 2 for ever season in W/L because of this. Favorites wise, the Gators should lose only one game during the regular season against Alabama. Realistically, 3 losses and going undefeated are both in the range for me, and playing to the lower end is safe.
UCONN beatdown would bother us all
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