THE CURIOUS INDEX, 6/4/2010
by Spencer Hall on Jun 4, 2010 8:46 AM EDT
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PrintTHE BIG 12 HITS THE BUTTON. 
The Big 12's Commissioner Dan Beebe and the collected ADs of the conference walked out of the meetings in Kansas City to find it: the shiny button. The red, shiny button. The History Eraser Button. PAC 10 Commissioner Larry Scott thought they might like it, even though they musn't press the button that would take Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Colorado, and Texas Tech out of the conference and add them to a proposed superconference with the current PAC 10, an arrangement whose collected revenue would dwarf the Big 12's to an extent that, when considered, left the ADs with visible and uncontrollable bulges in their pants.
THE BUTTON. Oh, so shiny. Oh so tempting. People often fumble when confronted with it. Some lose their cool altogether. Missouri's chancellor, seeing it sitting there in the lobby, seeing how SHINY it was, all but ditched the conference on the spot like the Czechs raising a middle finger to their masters in '89 and turning the borders loose. Press conferences were postponed, then cancelled altogether, and the conference commissioner only had closing elevator doors to protect him. If they had thought ahead, they would have brought pepper spray. As it stood, even the worst, most distracted and lazy observer had no word for it but "chaos." Men in suits of expensive nature and vaunted composure were reduced to gibbering platitudes, and then flight.
NOT EVEN THE WORST COMMISSIONER IN SPORTS COULD IGNORE ITS APPEAL AND LUSTER. So there it sat for all to behold and ponder and ultimately flee from, powered by a testicularity Larry Scott could not be previously suspected of as a former tennis exec whose last football game attended was confessed to be Harvard/ Yale, not anything as titanic as anything he'd oversee as commissioner of the Holy Throwin' Empire he was proposing. He's denying it, but even if the linchpin to all this--Texas---doesn't come on board and thus throws off the whole scheme, that is beyond large thinking. That's like Stalin-big, madman big, a concept so big the man must have a streak of genocidal insanity to him or else be operating under the complete ignorant bliss that sometimes produces spectacular ideas by chance. From the surface of this proposed new universe, all we can see are balls. Huge, ballsy balls, sir.
PROVISIONALS: IF this even happened and everyone somehow agreed to leave and form this superconference, the Division B of this proposed Megazord conference would be an imposing, barren reflection of man's desert soul, the No Country for Old Men Division: Texas, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Colorado, Arizona, and Arizona State. An imposing, harsh, and majestic stretch of land that is, sirs and madams, and one where the BCS in its current form goes to die, since current conference tie-ins under realignment--already hopelessly screwed in existing expansion scenarios--are nasty doublefucked under this.
The BCS, however, can receive transplants, suffer a few amputations, and live on in some mutant form. The Big 12 is a donor body now, and will come off the table cold and flatlined.
HALLO WE ARE ENDLESSLY POSTPONED OR MAYBE NOT. Either the NCAA is going to release the report to USC today at 10 a.m. EDT, or you will continue to wait despite the round of reports this week that Friday was the day this was definitely going to happen. Your frustrations in this matter are neither unusual nor irrational, but you will likely continue to wait because as secretive as the NCAA has been, bureaucrats are cheap canoes: durable, hollow inside, and prone to leaking but somehow staying afloat. We stand by our bet of everyone hating whatever happens on all sides.
THE PRE-EMPTIVE BUBBLE STRIKE. Matt Hayes cannily sees your dark horse and shoots it out from underneath you before it even makes the post. Just like in Red Dead Redemption, you may simply whistle for another one, and it will appear without noticing the smoking corpse of the horse you just dispatched. (Mississippi State, anyone? Yes! Why, what a capital idea BLAMMO! /horsedrops)
IF THIS HOLDS ANY VALUE: then Auburn and Iowa State should align in a Chizik Axis and control their respective spheres.
NEVER MISTAKE ACTIVITY FOR ACHIEVEMENT. One of the world's most bullshit-free individuals, John Wooden, is in grave condition at UCLA's Medical Center. As an undergrad we took "Coaching Football" at the University of Florida, and Steve Spurrier's class focused almost entirely on John Wooden, how he ran his program, and how Spurrier attempted to translate the Bruins' spectacular hoops dynasty to the football field. His influence spreads past the basketball court and into--as cliched a statement as this might be--to the way people lived and continue to live. Few can say something like that at the end of their lives with any certainty of its truth or absolute value. John Wooden does not have this problem.
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Divisions
With Divisions like those forecast, the chance of coming out of Conference play undefeated is pretty low unless you’re playing lower Division A opponents.
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by BurritoBrosShits on Jun 4, 2010 9:09 AM EDT reply actions
Indeed
You mean precisely like the SEC? Doesn’t seem to keep them out of the National Championship game.
by SanDiegoDevil on Jun 4, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya, I think the SEC should stop scheduling the ACC so much...
It's not what you've done but what you are doing that matters.
And the roses in this grand ol' stadium are once again Crimson. - Eli Gold, CTSN Broadcast of the BCS Championship Game at the Rose Bowl, 1-7-2010
by AlabamaJammer on Jun 5, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Like you have room to talk! Y'all have a patsy like Penn State on your schedule next season.
STILL stopping every few minutes to realize "Whoa. The Saints won the Super Bowl."
What would the Wizard of Westwood be worth?
Were he in his prime, or even only slightly past, what kind of salary would a coach like Wooden command in an era where the likes of Weis is paid millions to not coach, and Kiffin millions to do…whatever it is that he does?
Hearing of his condition, as expected as it may be given his age, inspires mourning for the inevitable loss of a man who represents what coaching at its highest level is supposed to be, and for the inescapable conclusion that his kind are the rarest of breeds among the profession.
A Better Question Is...
How would he and Sam Gilbert get away with buying so many players?
"When a guy takes off his coat, he's not going to fight. When a guy takes off his wristwatch, watch out!"
- Al McGuire
www.anonymouseagle.com
Gary Bettman is insulted you forgot about him
Dan Beebe was late for his afternoon tapioca and Gabba Gabby Hey, otherwise, he’d have stuck around to blind the reporters the lights shining off his sixhead.
And I have this to say for Pac-10 fans: Remember, no matter how hot the girl is, someone, somewhere is sick of her shit. Have fun with Texas. You’re not just getting Ellie Mae, you’re getting all the Clampetts.
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You can never have too much talent.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jun 7, 2010 9:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
At this point, Dan Beebe just wants his "life back"
You can never have too much talent.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jun 7, 2010 9:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The Big XII is more SEC than the SEC right now
If the Big XII six leave, that would have to suck for the AZ schools, where every away game in your division (except one) is a 1000 mile trip.
Don’t follow this. I get that the Arizona schools will have to travel further, but it probably beats the tar out of flying to Oregon or Washington, and with a new tv contract, it would hardly be a drop in the bucket considering that both schools will end up playing OU and UT now. will be exciting games.
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
Three words, though...
Unequal revenue distribution.
And unless the Arizona schools make a major step up in class, the only time they’ll be on on TV is when they’re playing Texas or Oklahoma… so their revenue won’t necessarily increase.
by vineyarddawg on Jun 4, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe, and I think this is all about football and there are no bones about it
But you can sell the Arizona schools on the baseball angle- believe me, they would like the PAC 10 to be a great baseball conference (at ASU, baseball is king- mind you that comes from a friend who played there, but whatever). They would get more revenue, just because they would be on the PAC-10 TV station a ton- especially in the summers, where, theoretically, the sheer mass of programming makes up for the one or two big hitter football games in terms of ad revenue(isn’t that how the Big Ten rationalizes equal payments?).
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- quote that my youth coach used to throw around, it's been co-opted by Nike, translated roughly it means "Football cannot be total without the win"
The baseball would be insane in that divison.
Sancto Tedford
by Anonymous IV at Mono Lake on Jun 4, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
sidenote: it would be better than a lot of AA leagues.
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- quote that my youth coach used to throw around, it's been co-opted by Nike, translated roughly it means "Football cannot be total without the win"
PAC-10 is already a baseball conference. Hell, its probably one of the best ATHLETIC conferences in the nation (before you jump down my throats, I didn’t say football, I said athletic. Just look at how many national championships they have in all around sports).
I’ll agree though that this expansion is all about the revenue sports, any way to make more bang for their buck.
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
"before you jump down my throats, I didn’t say football, I said athletic"
\ gently lets the hammer back down
\ still staring with squinted eyes
We are THE tigersthatsaywareagle
But Auburn gets to keep swimming, right?
I'm afraid I have no choice but to sell you all for scientific experiments.
by boddagettaflyer on Jun 4, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
USC hasn't been good at baseball for ages
and by good I mean win ten national championships in a row good.
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- quote that my youth coach used to throw around, it's been co-opted by Nike, translated roughly it means "Football cannot be total without the win"
SC baseball is about as far from good as it gets at the moment.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
What happened? they used to own it.
besides Fullerton, LBS, and Irvine I mean
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- quote that my youth coach used to throw around, it's been co-opted by Nike, translated roughly it means "Football cannot be total without the win"
I don’t really follow baseball, but Gillespie had a few iffy years, so he was canned and Chad Kreuter (his son in law) was put in place. It’s Kreuter’s first big job, and he’s not making any headway with it. At all. I doubt he’ll be retained after this season.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
BTW, as a former resident of the Netherlands and having them as my second team, I’m a big fan of your signature quote.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
I spent the first ten years of my youth career getting yelled at by dutchmen
some of it stuck
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- quote that my youth coach used to throw around, it's been co-opted by Nike, translated roughly it means "Football cannot be total without the win"
They are a unique bunch, that’s for sure.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
My dad used to say “you can tell a Dutchman right away, but you can’t tell him much”
Los Angeles is like Manchester. There is a red team that wins championships and a blue team that doesn't.
Any new conference expansion that occurs will include revenue sharing. That is why the Big 12 was always doomed to fail, and why the ACC, Big 10 and SEC (I don’t know if the PAC-10 does this) will survive.
In conference expansion, the bylaws of the former confrence do not follow.
Don't give up, don't ever give up ~ Jim Valvano
The pac 10 doesn't have equal revenue sharing
and no way UT, or even OU, joins the Pac 10 with equal revenue sharing. big fish gotta eat.
hard to prove, that one
It depends on how the cost benefit analysis plays out.
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- quote that my youth coach used to throw around, it's been co-opted by Nike, translated roughly it means "Football cannot be total without the win"
ASU is capable of drawing a big enough TV market. They’ll make money and more marquee opponents will only help keep the interest of the fair weather transient Phoenix population. ASU isn’t the loser. ASU is the big winner here.
Fairweather fans aren't going to care
about marquee games if you consistently lose them.
by GwinnettGamecock on Jun 4, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
It's Bigger Out Here
The theory that expansion would cause AZ schools substantially more travel is not supported by the facts:
CURRENT POTENTIAL ASU ROAD GAMES
UW 1114 miles
Oregon St. 973 miles
Wash. St. 955 miles
Oregon 941 miles
Cal 647 miles
Stanford 631 miles
USC/UCLA 358 miles
Arizona 110 miles
Avg. distance per trip 676 miles
HYPOTHETICAL POTENTIAL ASU ROAD GAMES
Texas A&M 943 miles
Oklahoma St. 873 miles
Texas 870 miles
Oklahoma 845 miles
Texas Tech 590 miles
Colorado 589 miles
Arizona 110 miles
Avg. distance per trip 689 miles
The average travel difference is only 13 miles per trip, which in airplane time is literally almost nothing. Plus, the AZ teams are taking a plane to all of their away games except AZ games anyway, so the net effect on AZ teams’ travel is negligible at best.
Shit out west is just far apart.
by SanDiegoDevil on Jun 4, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Know just what you mean
I’ve done some jobs for the Federales in Nevada. The idea of getting in the car and driving 120-150 miles to go to work every day was a little odd at first.
"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke
Never Has a 4-8 Season Been So Appealing
As a Sun Devil the thought of having a legit reason to go to Austin or Boulder every year for a weekend is worth the fact that we’ll never see the conference championship game (unless Vontaze Burfict can be immediately and successfully cloned).
The only thing that disturbed in Red Dead Redemption
That new horse you just whistled for is unusually calm about you skinning the old, dead horse in front of it.
"Death is but a doorway, time is but a window, I'll be back."
-Vigo the Carpathian
whatever
the packs of 6 Grizzlies are crazy.
Also- Seth.
"It’s not Disneyland, people. Get the hell out of the way." NYC Firefighter
Constantly recycled horses
is the worst I’ve heard of the game so far. Ought to be some sort of penalty for losing your horse.
by GwinnettGamecock on Jun 4, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Best wishes to Coach Wooden
I watched that spectacular string of NCAA Championships he put together from my grade school years all the way through my sophomore year in college. That was some serious domination of his chosen sport.
"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke
PAC-10/16 is great and all
But the real question here is what this means for the SEC. If Texas and aTm are out of the mix, who does Mikey Slive attempt to recruit to beef up the conference? The ACC is most likely about to get prison raped by Sir Slive and the SEC bandito’s. Who will in turn forcibly violate the Big East, which goes the way of the passenger pigeon, much like it’s esteemed colleague the Big XII. All of this is somewhat scary and interesting. Sort of like being in a hurricane, except without the defrosting meats, flashlights and liquor.
Maybe I’m crazy but I’m starting to wonder what the SEC would get by taking (likely) F$U, Miami, Clemson and GT. No new territory or TV markets added. But now have four more mouths to feed.
But then Slive did say that the distribution for the SEC was already massive and needing TV markets wouldn’t matter.
I really don't know if anything sums up America better. It is simultaneously preposterous, incrediably laughable, impressive, charming, redicoulous, expensive, overpopulated, wonderful, American. -Sir Stephen Fry on visiting the Iron Bowl
Holding out hope
that the SEC does not expand. I firmly believe we don’t need to. Our revenue sharing is great and the competition in the conference is unparalleled. I think the superconferences will fail down the road.
by DoubleDawg05 on Jun 4, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, now.
Without Texas, it just doesn’t make financial sense, IMO.
by vineyarddawg on Jun 4, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
In this setup, Clemson and GT are your bonus picks you take to get to 16, and FSU and Miami are where the numbers (supposedly) are. But FSU is stuck in rebuilding mode, and the national numbers Miami was supposed to deliver for the ACC haven’t worked out well in a less competitive conference. Why do we think Miami would be able to fix its problems in the SEC?
I don’t think anybody but Texas and A&M are lucrative enough for the SEC to add. If they’re off the table, the SEC might as well just continue dividing its giant pile of cash 12 ways instead of 16.
That 17-year-old Hokie sitting in the rafters in Greensboro didn't see any of this coming.
Slive saying that goes against everything I've heard ever about establishing new markets by the way.
Doesn’t make it not true, but a key point in establishing a new market is real market presence- something that is harder to create (by some theories impossible to create) without a tangible presence.
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- quote that my youth coach used to throw around, it's been co-opted by Nike, translated roughly it means "Football cannot be total without the win"
SEC would go after schools like North Carolina, NC State, Virginia Tech, and Maryland ahead Georgia Tech, Clemson, etc.
What?
Why would UNC leave the ACC unless it were obvious that the whole conference was about to implode? Besides, of all those, only UNC and Virginia Tech add anything of meaning to the conference. Let’s forget nostalgic ideas of who’s Southern or who matches well. If the SEC is going to expand in order to get a better negotiating position, they’re going to pick teams that would send a flutter up ESPN’s dress. NC State is not that team, and I’m not sure even UNC and Virginia Tech would do that.
by Cantabrigian_UGA_Fan on Jun 4, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm not sure...
where i read it, but somebody pitched the idea of the SEC taking UNC, Duke, and I think Clemson. The logic is that it not only increases the academic standing of the conference (UNC and Duke, so Vandy isn’t the only academic private-school sacrificial lamb), but also, with the likes of Kentucky and Tenn, form a basketball conference that can potentially rival the Big East. Most importantly, it adds the North Carolina TV markets and poses no threat whatsoever to the established SEC football powers. Its pretty much a wash in terms of football, but its pretty good for the SEC overall.
by Truffle Shuffle on Jun 4, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
There's a better chance of the Pope turning Baptist...
…than UNC and Duke leaving the ACC.
I use the religious comparison very deliberately here.
That 17-year-old Hokie sitting in the rafters in Greensboro didn't see any of this coming.
I don't see VT as a realistic addition anyway.
We might add some DC-market appeal, but I don’t think we add enough to justify the extra piece of the pie, and a lot of political blood was spilled in this state in 2003 to get Tech into the ACC in the first place. Bugging out and leaving Virginia behind in a shell of a conference would be a very bad strategic move.
That 17-year-old Hokie sitting in the rafters in Greensboro didn't see any of this coming.
I’m assuming that for the most part that charter members will not leave their respective conferences. I realize that I am supposing that Clemson will ignore is founding membership status. No supposition at this point is perfect.
I really don't know if anything sums up America better. It is simultaneously preposterous, incrediably laughable, impressive, charming, redicoulous, expensive, overpopulated, wonderful, American. -Sir Stephen Fry on visiting the Iron Bowl
DING DING DING DING DING DING
CONFERENCE CHINESE FIRE DRILL!!
Brian Kelly says no Spicy Sea Nuggets.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Jun 4, 2010 9:51 AM EDT reply actions
Hey, at least people are taking a day off from suggesting that Notre Dame joins the Big East for football or whatever plan it is that people propose…. people who don’t get that you all don’t actually appear to want to.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
Trying to figure out
which Big XII AD, President, or Conference Commissioner to photoshop over Stimpy’s face is hurting my brain.
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
I think just Li’l Red would be creepy enough
by An 'eer with a beer on Jun 4, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed.
If only the button was just to blow up Lil’ Red – I’d hit that thing with a sledgehammer.
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
WHITHER BAYLOR?!?
If all its Big 12 South bretheren leave for the sunscreen and surfboards of the Pac-10, do the Bears just say fuck it and join the Mexican Primera Division?
Actually, Robert Griffin would make them a dangerous futbol team.
I think it will be more like Baylor bends over, while TCU, Utah, BYU, and the rest of the Big-12’s rejects point at Baylor and say “fuck it”
by Truffle Shuffle on Jun 4, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
oh, i forgot Houston too. Baylor’s hopes rely on Griner and Griffin having a litter of children to distribute across the Baylor sports teams.
by Truffle Shuffle on Jun 4, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Someone still owns the rights to the SWC brand
Get the Big 12 rejects (post-Big Integer red-button pushing), western CUSA and Sun Belt teams, maybe an eastern WAC school or two. Surely wouldn’t have AQ but it would probably be the best remaining conference without it if the MWC gets it.
by commodore_dude on Jun 4, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
baylor is odd man out, but they’ve been livin’ large off of ann richard’s gift to them all those years ago. they never belonged in a power conference and will now join their small private school brethren like smu and tcu in a mid-major, thankful for having received the undeserved invitation to suckle at the bcs-money-teat of the big 12 in the first place.
by ramblingamblinjohn on Jun 4, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Or the Kansas schools?...
I’d think you could make a new Conference USA or MWC and take the Big 12’s automatic spot from TCU, Baylor, Kansas, K St, Utah, BYU, and Boise. Maybe add UTEP, SMU, Rice, Colorado St, Fresno St, among others to get to 12.
Actually, there’s already talk of the Texas legislature demanding Pac take Baylor over Colorado for this to happen. AND WHERE THERE’S SMOKE THERE’S FIRE! (mdwm)
As a fan of one of the fellow “rejects,” my best-case scenario involves the 4 of us joining a new MWC with an AQ for football, and attempting to create a basketball superconference with Memphis and what’s left of the Big East. KU, KSU, Baylor, and ISU all have at least Elite Eight appearances in the not too distant past, so the pedigree is there.
You can never have too much talent.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jun 7, 2010 9:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Get well soon Coach Wooden
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
Does anyone else get the feeling...
That Dan Beebe is calling schools one by one on the phone and giving them his best rendition of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lht_tdJQFbs
http://inthebleachers.net
by InTheBleachers on Jun 4, 2010 10:35 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Failure to report
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/ncf/news/story?id=5249650
Even the dry beat-writer is wondering what’s taking so long.
Nicholas Eckert
vidstudent
I shall make a gentlemanly wager with all who wish to partake.
I wager 20, yes 20 krugerrands of the highest and most unsullied value that the University of Southern California Trogans will receive no, yes zero (0) sanctions.
The NCAA will take the position that well, yes, that’s true, Your Honor, but you see, the current coaches and oh-so-academically-inclined student athletes must not be punished for the transgressions of the previous regime. That wouldn’t be fair, of course, and furthermore….
/mumble mumble shuffles papers
I hear the NCAA’s lawyers are very good.
Brian Kelly says no Spicy Sea Nuggets.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Jun 4, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Funny...
That’s what I heard on Bob Loblow’s Law Blog (Lobbing Law Bombs!)
by Bleeding Red, Black, and Bourbon on Jun 4, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
The Columbus Dispatch...
has a story this morning detailing emails between Gee and Powers (UT’s president).
I don’t think there is anyway Texas joins the Big 10 but it’s interesting nonetheless.
How funny is it to see a Big Integer pres use terms like "agility" and "swiftness of foot".
Gee’s initial e-mail to Delany on April 19 said that he is “of the mind that we control our destiny at the moment, but the window will soon close on us. Agility and swiftness of foot is our friend.”
Iowa style= stall like a motherfucker
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- quote that my youth coach used to throw around, it's been co-opted by Nike, translated roughly it means "Football cannot be total without the win"
Irony, thy name is Delaney...
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 4, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Legend Dept
Hope John Wooden’s health improves,
And, that his family does well too, under the most difficult of circumstances.
It will be fun to watch all the conferences
whip out their dicks and slam them on the table for Texas to compare. I still think the ESS EEE CEE has the inside track because they have the most of what’s really important, namely money.
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Yep.
I’m happy with things as they are in the thunderdome that is the SEC, but if they just have to expand, I’d go after Texas and OK or A&M in the west, and VT & FSU or GT in the east.
Like most other things in life, in the end it all comes down to $$$, rather than things like how well the teams match up, rivalries, etc.
Right...
because BCS championships aren’t mythical or anything.
As for the hot women…ok…you win on that one.
Myths and Legends
How so mythical? There is a BCS and it has a system whereby it awards championships. Now, if you want to argue is it a “national championship” then it is that too based on all the kids who set it up and agreed to the rules.
Need some help moving the goalposts?
by PalmettoTiger on Jun 4, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no desire..
to get into a playoff debate. If you want to put stock into a BCS (or AP or USA Today, or whatever) “championship”…so be it.
The Integer's NO WE WON'T GIVE UP THE ROSE BOWL attitude
is what got us the BCS in the first place. You wanted it, you’re stuck with it, you live with the results.
Applesauce, bitches.
I'm afraid I have no choice but to sell you all for scientific experiments.
by boddagettaflyer on Jun 4, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
My favorite myth
was the one about there being no difference in speed between Ohio State (the one in Columbus, not the Bobcats) and Florida. Funny myths are cool.
by GwinnettGamecock on Jun 4, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
My favorite myth...
is how when any SEC team wins a BCS title it somehow, magically makes South Carolina’s shitty football program respectable.
No, what makes SC...
…and other “less competitive” SEC schools respectable is that they tend to play the eventual BCS title winning SEC team a hell of a lot closer than whatever pinata the Big 10 or Big 12 sends up.
by Dick H on Jun 4, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
SEC Makes No Sense for Texas
Why would Texas join the SEC — they would have a damn-near impossible time winning even their half of the conference every year. If the PACageddon happens, Texas still wins its half almost yearly in their new conference (unless Okla. wakes up).
As for money, the SEC has it now. . . if PACageddon happens, the cash will be much more comparable, and the mutant PAC will cover huge markets, AND the biggest growth areas going forward.
by SanDiegoDevil on Jun 4, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless OU wakes up?
You do realize we have 6 Big XII championships to only 3 for texas, right?
And that’s with the first 4 years of the conference coinciding with the worst stretch of OU football ever.
by Billy Sims' Fro on Jun 4, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
"Wakes Up"
“Wakes Up” was admittedly a bit of hyperbole, but you’ve gotta admit that of late the rivalry has been trending to TX. What I meant was, Texas’ only competition in its half of the new mutant PAC is still primarily Oklahoma, whatever the condition of that rivalry.
by SanDiegoDevil on Jun 4, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Point taken
On a related note, here’s a weird stat that just hit me: texas has beaten OU 3 of the last 4 RRS’s, but OU has won 3 of the last 4 B12 championships.
by Billy Sims' Fro on Jun 4, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Oooh, ooh! Can we do that thing again where Longhorn fans think that “UT beat OU head-to-head” is magically more important to breaking ties than “Texas Tech beat Texas head-to-head.” Because that was really fun the first time it happened.
STILL stopping every few minutes to realize "Whoa. The Saints won the Super Bowl."
Thank you!
It’s like nobody at the WWL ever played a game of rock/paper/scissors that wound up in a 3 way tie.
…and Go Saints!
by Billy Sims' Fro on Jun 4, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh...just the excuse I needed to post this:
Yes, I live in Starkville...WHO did I piss off in a past life?
by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Jun 4, 2010 2:16 PM EDT reply actions
Ren and Stimpy
Still my favorite show of all time.
Ren and Stimpy
I can’t believe that show was actually shown to children. Hell, part of it still disturbs me now.
Are we still to believe that even if the rumor is correct, the Pac-10 will take all 6 teams (assuming they all accept)? I mean, they want revolutionary, but a BCS 16 team conference makes the Khmer Rouge look reactionary. Texas is obviously the main prize, and I wonder if the rest (except Colorado) are just chaff thrown up to distract us.
by Cantabrigian_UGA_Fan on Jun 4, 2010 7:10 PM EDT reply actions
Seriously..
that pic is from Space Madness..one of the best episodes ever. History Erase button…geez. Classic.
by JunctionCrimson on Jun 4, 2010 10:14 PM EDT reply actions
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