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Let me get this straight...
-The Big Ten has 12 teams
-The Big 12 has 10 teams
-The Pac-10 has 11 teams
I don’t know what the big deal about academics was with those three, because clearly the SEC has them beat when it comes to math.
According to current deals...
At this point, the Big Ten has 11 teams, the Big 12 has 12 teams, and the Pac-10 has 10 teams.
In 2011, the Big Ten will have 12 teams, the Big 12 will have 11 teams, and the Pac-10 will have 10 teams.
In 2012, the Big Ten will have 12 teams, the Big 12 will have 10 teams, and the Pac-10 will have 11 teams.
And I’m willing to bet that other than the traditionally inept midwesterners, we’ll at most see numerical inaccuracy in one year (the current Big 12 in 2011, its single year of 11 teams).
Unless Larry Scott plans to invite San Diego State, San Jose State, Cal State Fullerton, Fresno State, Portland State, and Hawai'i, it ain't the Pac-16.
by AllSaintsDay on Jun 14, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
And what, pray tell,
will we traditionally inept midwesterners see? Especially those of us who’ve been pointing and laughing at the Big Integer for years?
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
Y’all aren’t traditionally inept Midwesterners. More like…nouveau inept. Unless you finally get that conference to change its name.
by AllSaintsDay on Jun 15, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
am I the only one drooling over the prospect of naming a conference the 12-pack?
Most Valuable Participant 2009
Math
A ten team conference with three basketball schools and two other members named Baylor and Iowa State.
Travesty the first: These guys get an automatic BCS bid.
Travesty the second: Everything Joe Schad has said over the past five days.
Travesty the third (as a reminder): Mack Brown’s “rivals” in Texas are Tommy Tubberville, Mike Sherman and whoever will be at Baylor for three year intervals before being fired.
no
Because “to be”—conjugated as “is” here—is not an action verb, whoever is correct: it’s a predicate noun, not an object.
actually ...
“whoever” is correct because it’s the subject of “will be” within the dependent clause. Whether the verb in the clause is an action verb or not isn’t relative. It could easily have been “whoever stays at Baylor”.
If your conference held to the Pac-10's academic standards,
clearly this discussion would be completely unnecessary.
by HoodRiverDuck on Jun 14, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Who are the three basketball schools?
Kansas is the only school that’s willing to take that label. Mizzou waffles back and forth on it. And certainly KState and Okie Lite wouldn’t consider themselves strictly basketball schools. Baylor is probably a basketball school, but no Texas school would ever come out of that closet.
Just because they actually have success in another sport doesn’t mean that football isn’t still king. You CAN do both, you know.
It’s still a better football conference than the Big Integer or the Pac Integer (especially with a neutered U$C). All we’ve lost is one of our worst programs, and one of our average ones (unless Suh is playing).
Let me guess, you believe that the SEC or another conference should get two automatic bids from now on. Sorry, but that’s what the regular season and conference title game is for.
You can never have too much talent.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jun 14, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty good average team,
Considering it took a mobilization of TV execs, conference honchos, politicians to stave off conference destruction.
I think my sarcasm meter is broken
Cause this can’t be a serious Texas is pimp blurb.
It’s more like “Fuck us running, our brilliant plan to have our way was fucked up by everyone we thought we were smarter than. Maybe we should reassess all our bragging about how great our academics are. Oh, and fuck you SEC”
by LSUJOSHUA on Jun 14, 2010 8:17 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Reminds me of an old Choctaw Indian proverb
my grandpa often used. “Sumbitches come half steppin’ get their asses tore the fuck up.”
What a cluster. It’s similar to the typical coaching change charade, i.e., the ones who are not serious candidates for a certain job flirt just to gain leverage where they’re at, and the ones who are planning on taking the jobs have to keep their mouth shut until the deal is done.
by Dick H on Jun 14, 2010 9:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
How has Texas not gotten their way?
The Big “12” was the only conference that was willing to let them build their Longhorn Network. They just grabbed more cash from the conference tv deal, will get more cash from their tv channel, and don’t have to fly their volleyball team out to Pullman every year.
They had every opportunity to jump somewhere (anywhere) else, but didn’t. How can you say their plan was fucked up? Because they didn’t end up in the Southeast? What goal didn’t they accomplish? If these “superconferences” become the greatest thing since pizza on a bagel, it’s not like UT won’t have every opportunity to join up somewhere.
You can never have too much talent.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jun 14, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Completely agree, except
this conference is, and will be, extremely shaky, particularly with the inferior deals offered to the smaller schools. Nobody trusts anyone at this point, and this is far from the end.
When the conference actually starts to lose schools is when this really starts to heat up.
by AgAstraPerAspera on Jun 14, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
True.
I’m hoping (but doubtful) that the new deal has much stronger penalties for leaving. The only way this works long term is with a strong commitment from every member to try and make this work. Something like forfeiture of 50% of all revenues received from the conference for the last 3 years.
Any flat-rate will eventually be priced out in this crazy game.
You can never have too much talent.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jun 14, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they should re-name the conference to...
…“The Texas League.” Assuming baseball doesn’t have the name copyrighted, it would make a natural tie-in. As in, everyone is getting paid, but the majority of them don’t have all that much talent…
"I don't believe in dining on an empty stomach." - W. C. Fields
by W.C. Fields' Nose on Jun 14, 2010 8:22 PM EDT reply actions
seriously, From how it sounds, UT carries OU's balls around in their purse
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Alabama screwed Texas once....
and we will gladly do it again.
"Make no mistake, its not revenge Sabans after... It's the reckoning."
Quiet
Lane Kiffin will use that post to claim Saban is tampering with his running backs again.
by Counter Trap on Jun 14, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
and agents aren’t boosters…waaaah, waaaah.
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by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 14, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Clearly, this was all a ruse
…to ditch those non-Texans. Phase II is a courtship with the MAC to scare off those filthy sooners, jayhawks and hawkeyes (little s, j and h.)
DON’T MESS WITH TEXAS!!!
Hawkeyes?
Started the Shiners early, eh?
by Billy Sims' Fro on Jun 14, 2010 8:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Shiner: owned and distributed by the same folks who own and operate Corona
yep, it’s a Mexican beer.
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
wow
What a surprise that something your typical Texan claims as “authentic Texas” would come from Mexico.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Jun 15, 2010 3:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
By that logic
Budweiser is a foreign import.
Passing? Who needs passing?
by RamblinWreck007 on Jun 15, 2010 7:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Guess who owns 50% of the company which makes Corona
And Shiner Bock is brewed in Shiner, Texas. Last I checked, that was still “Texas.”
not drunk, just overserved
by Gen. Stoopnagle on Jun 15, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
You know...
…this has been bothering me since you wrote it.
So I checked, and you are so totally wrong.
Gambrinus owns Shiner and, until recently, was the importer of Grupo Modelo beers in Texas and the eastern US. But Grupo Modelo does not own Shiner nor Gambrinus.
Just so you know.
not drunk, just overserved
by Gen. Stoopnagle on Jun 20, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
It's amazing how much we all hate "a TV network"
and yet they probably just saved us all from complete anarchy and mayhem.
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by Jamie DeVriend on Jun 14, 2010 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I don't see how you SEC types do it...
…because right now I want to push every other team in my now crap-hole conference in a fire. And our prez and AD for signing off on this abortion.
by Billy Sims' Fro on Jun 14, 2010 8:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Dude.
All we lost was friggin’ Colorado and a post-Suh Nebraska.
Now we just work Jerry Jones for Arkansas (“sure would be nice to have a Big 12 title game in your nice new stadium, Mr. Jones..”), and steal Louisville. Neither one is a powerhouse, but we didn’t lose any powerhouses, either.
Right now you could argue that Stanford has as good a chance of winning the Pac 10 this year as anybody. Missing out on that isn’t exactly going to lead to Sooner ruin.
You can never have too much talent.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jun 14, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
“post-Suh Nebraska.” Riiiiiight. Keep dreamin that now that The House of Spears is gone and you have our old QB as your coach that your FB team will ever come close to ours again.
I'm your huckleberry.
I will! Thanks!
Always remember, we got much closer to your football team than you ever did to our basketball team.
You can never have too much talent.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jun 14, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
LMAO
Somehow I knew you’d bring up B Ball, like any good Kansan(Kansasan?) would do. Anywho, I was just yankin your chain, w/ Turner on the sidelines, it will be hard not to root for the Jayhawks except against the Huskers.
I'm your huckleberry.
Well, it was the yin and yang of our relationship, wasn't it?
You’d kick our ass in football, we’d kick yours in hoops. Rinse and repeat for 100 years or so.
You can never have too much talent.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jun 14, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Fortunately
You will only have that rooting dilemma for one more year, and then never again.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Jun 15, 2010 3:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wait
Did a Kansas fan just say we “didn’t lose any powerhouses” by losing Nebraska Football? That’s almost as delusional as your little fucktard rivals thinking they had a shot at the Big 10.
by Billy Sims' Fro on Jun 15, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
what is really delusional
i feel sorry for the big ten… they now have to deal with nebraska. Im glad missouri stayed but if I were them I would have taken the tigers over the huskers any day. Besides texas, nebraska has been a parasite to the big 12. Hope you are all ready for that in the big ten.
by bulldog8934 on Jun 16, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Not fair!
I was told Delaney was playing master level chess while the other commissioners were reading the rules. Missing both their top targets doesn’t seem to fit that.
Usually when a commissioner oversees a drop from “premier” to “nationwide laughingstock,” botches his best attempt to right the ship, and deserves primary responsibility for maintaining a loathed bowl system in place of a more popular playoff or plus-1 system, he’s considered a failure, not grossly superior.
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Don't worry
He’s probably drafting a hyperdefensive moving letter explaining the B10’s mission, and how everything is about “fit”, and that, at the end of the day, there just weren’t any candidates more inline with the B10 mission than the Cornhuskers.
While, the rest of the nation sniggers at him…
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 14, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
If you don’t understand the language, I can’t help you. “Snicker” is the Americanized version of the proper word.
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 15, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
And, for what's it worth
The only good expansion candidates for the BTen+2 were NU, ND and Mizzou.
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 15, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
When the dust has settled...
…I think it will be clear that no one had any clue what they were doing.
On the plus side, Mizzou nearly destroyed college football. That has to count for something.
Mizzou didn't even get a round across the SEC's bow.
That’s where college football is PLAYED. Everywhere else, they’re just pretending.
by Board Certified Scrotologist on Jun 14, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You're assuming this is over...
Also, the Big 10 can now have a championship game while the Big 12 and Pac 10 can not.
The SEC will ALWAYS be second fiddle...
The Big 10 is the oldest and most prestigious conference in the nation. There is and never will be a better combination of athletics and academics.
It doesn’t matter how many football games the SEC wins. We will always look down on you.
/MDWM
You thought sniggers was a racial epithet. Keep pumping those academics, brah.
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
What did he write?
It is difficult to read the screen with the glare of all these crystal trophies.
by PalmettoTiger on Jun 14, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I would expect nothing less
In the meantime, the rest of the country (the parts not suffering from mass emigration) will point and laugh at you. Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf appreciates your braggadocian worldview, though.

But yeah, I guess I do pretty much assume this is over, since the remaining Big 12 members convened, reached a result, and the result is “we’re all in the Big 12, period.” As for Notre Dame, there’s no indication of mutual interest between the two parties, nor has there been this entire time. But who cares— If you land ND, it’s a great triumph for your football hopes and revenue. If you lose them, it’s because you can’t deal with their lack of graduate research revenue.
Master level chess, for sure.
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Again...
There is no conference in the nation that combines the athletics, academics and money of the Big 10. That is simply a fact.
The SEC could win the next 20 mythical championships and it still won’t change.
It doesn’t matter how many football games the SEC wins. We will always look down on you.
And one day we'll all be dead...what's the big freakin' deal.
Who exactly are you trying to convince with your Rain Man like tendencies to repeat yourself over and over and over and over?
WTF? Who gives a shit about academics?
This is why you fail to understand that you are a tool.
All we’re interested in is the football.
not drunk, just overserved
by Gen. Stoopnagle on Jun 15, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Spoken like a true SEC hag.
Thanks for proving my point.
It doesn’t matter how many football games the SEC wins. We will always look down on you.
Megalomaniacs
and children quote themselves. But, we cut children slack since their brains are not yet developed. While devidee gets a break because he apparently was born without that happy, three pound occupant of the skull.
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 15, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I give a shit about academics…but I don’t bring it up in a football site, because that’d make me a fucking moron.
by AllSaintsDay on Jun 15, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL...
It’s a COLLEGE football site.
It doesn’t matter how many football games the SEC wins. We will always look down on you.
Good point. Smugness about academics should pop up here about as much as smugness about NFL loyalties, since one is football, but not college, and the other is college, but not football.
by AllSaintsDay on Jun 15, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
When we're talking about...
individual teams, I agree. When you get into a discussion about conferences, you need to look at everything.
It doesn’t matter how many football games the SEC wins. We will always look down on you.
Makes about as much sense as talking about college baseball on here.
Wait…do they even play baseball in the Big Integer? Cause these are the teams in the CWS…Florida, Florida State, Clemson, South Carolina, UCLA, Arizona State, TCU and Oklahoma.
For a postseason I stopped watching after regionals, I think I’m okay with that field.
by AllSaintsDay on Jun 15, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Come on dude
Stop, just stop.
"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"
by psuphiman80 on Jun 15, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Something tells me
we’re going to be seeing a lot of that .gif ’round these parts. +1
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
"We will always look down on you."
This EDSBS participation thing? You’re doing it wrong. It appears you got lost on your way to a rivals.com message board.
In a sense, he's right.
The Big 10 WILL always look down,…. from the stands as an SEC team holds up this trophy from the field of play.

by sullivan013 on Jun 15, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
“There is and never will be a better combination of athletics and academics.”
So if instead of a blog about football, you were to post on a blog about academic competition, say for instance, everdayshouldbeSATday.douchebag.com, you could actually have a leg to stand on. You would kick ass. /sarcasm
There are lots of people around college football who somehow consider themselves inherently superior due to their rare blend of athletics and academics. Around here, we call them the Commodores. And like the Big10/11/12, they routinely get run over by the top tier SEC teams. Thank you for playing, buh-bye……
by Dick H on Jun 15, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Right...
A Big 10 team beast an SEC team in football every single year.
It doesn’t matter how many football games the SEC wins. We will always look down on you.
beast = beats
It doesn’t matter how many football games the SEC wins. We will always look down on you.
Logic fail
Taking your argument to the extreme, if the SEC and Big 10 play 100 times, with the SEC winning 99 and the Big 10 winning 1, your reasoning would say the SEC isn’t “superior” BC OMGZ THE BIG 10 WON ONE GAME
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by Old South on Jun 15, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dude
The SEC just got turned down by A&M, I’d hold off on the trimphalism a bit if I were you.
In the end, the Big East, ACC and SEC stood pat, will be interesting to see what happens next time this starts up. You know, in a year when Texas is dissatisfied with some minor detail and demands even more concessions.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Jun 15, 2010 3:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
fail
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This is not a fight you can win...
the SEC has the best everything: Football, women, hillbillies, social diseases, natural and man-made disasters — everything. Just ask them.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 15, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
It's all about the passion man...
They just care more.
It doesn’t matter how many football games the SEC wins. We will always look down on you.
also...
SEC folks have faster Internet speeds, stronger hand shakes, and know how to divide by zero.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 15, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Like,...
The number of bowl games Ohio State has played against SEC teams divided by games won?
by sullivan013 on Jun 15, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes!
BTW, insult Ohio State all you want, I’m an Iowa fan. Recent trips to Dixie have been very productive for us.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
by Blackheartnopants on Jun 15, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't you understand...
The play of one team in a conference is representative of the entire conference.
That’s how South Carolina won the last 4 mythical National Championships!
It doesn’t matter how many football games the SEC wins. We will always look down on you.
It's funny, you see
I was going to make some joke about whether this thread shows that SEC academics aren’t really that bad (because we dispose of one stupid Big 10 poster in humiliatingly lopsided fashion), or whether it proves that Big 10 academics really are superior (because y’all might be smart enough not to jump to his aid).
Guess I have my answer.
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Not only do the care more
but they’re passion is so much faster, what with ESS EEE CEEE SPEEEEED and all.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Wow, just horrible grammar fail on my part
*they
*their
I’ve been living in the South too long.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
That was fun. Let's do it again next year!
Seriously, I think the whole thing is pretty funny. As best I can tell, the winners of this round of expansion were Nebraska and the SEC.
by GwinnettGamecock on Jun 14, 2010 8:48 PM EDT reply actions
probably Colorado too...
Not they will be relevant athletically, but they got their wish culture and academics wise.
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by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 14, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
The SEC won
because we don’t have to deal with Texas A&M’s superior academics, or scrotal-damaging fans.
I’m a loser because my business model relied heavily upon A&M fans visiting the SEC and causing scrotal damage that needed immediate medical attention.
The fourth guy back actually required 3 surgeries to restore cremasteric function
by Board Certified Scrotologist on Jun 14, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like we were able to take down all the bombers
That said it remains to be seen if one was not confirmed down and is continuing its course towards conference Armageddon (Notre Dame)
by Cantabrigian_UGA_Fan on Jun 14, 2010 9:23 PM EDT reply actions
Dan Beebe in front of UT Regents:
Your Jim Delany has no regard for human life, not even of his own. For this reason men, I want to impress upon you the need for extreme watchfulness. The enemy may come individually, or in strength. He may even appear in the form of Osborne or Mizzou. But however we must stop him. We must not allow him to gain entrance to the Texas TV Market. Now, I’m going to give you THREE SIMPLE rules: First, trust NO one, whatever his uniform or academic ranking, unless he is known to you personally; Second, anyone or anything that approaches within 200 miles of the Red River is to be FIRED UPON; Third, if in doubt, shoot first then ask questions later. I would sooner accept a few casualties through accidents rather losing the entire state and its personnel through carelessness. Any variation on these rules must come from me personally. Now, men, in conclusion, I would like to say that, in the three years it has been my privilege to be your commissioner, I have always expected the best from you, and you have never given me anything less than that. Today, Longhorn nation is counting on us. We’re not going to let them down. Good luck to you all.
You can't let Delany in here.
He’ll see everything. He’ll see the Big Board.
by PalmettoTiger on Jun 14, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Gentlemen
No fighting in the war room!
What do we do if somehow Colt McCoy ends up on an NFL team starting against Vince Young?
There is some good ol' fashioned hate a brewin'...
…in the Big 12-2 tonight. There will be blood on the streets tonight.
Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs
This whole deal was just a ruse by the
four letter network to stoke Big 12-2 interest in the offseason doldrums.
Come September, the hatred will still be subpar by SEC standards.
by Dick H on Jun 14, 2010 10:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It will make for
the best ISU Baylor game EVAH!
Sparty on. Gator done.
by SpartanGator on Jun 14, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't get it
If the Big Ten invite Mizzou, they’d still take it and all of this will be completely fucked. Frankly, I’d prefer Mizzou and Kansas in the Big Ten over Rutgers or Pitt.
How does anyone in Texas think this will be better for them? The Texas Network will not make this worth while. I know that they think it will, but the world doesn’t revolve around Texas.
Sparty on. Gator done.
Mizzou never had an invite.
They were played like a fiddle to try to entice Notre Dame. They’re so completely lacking in awareness of their place in college athletics that they were the perfect bait to string along. At one point, MU message board posters were talking about agreeing to only a partial share of revenue sharing just to be part of the “in-crowd.” As a Jayhawk, this was by far my favorite part of all of this.
The thing I don’t get is why the SEC had any interest in aTm in the first place. What value would they have brought on their own? Do you really need to worry about marketshare when you’re already nationally broadcast for every game? How the fuck do you schedule a 13 team league? And if you go for a 14th, unless it’s Navy or ND, it would have only created another round of this clusterfuck, only several times worse.
You can never have too much talent.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jun 14, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike Slive just fucked Texas and the Pac-10 by offering A&M. Neither Texas or A&M could afford to call the others bluff.
In essence, the Big-XII is now Mike Slive’s little bitch. Fancy little scrot-punch he pulled off there.
Everything is bigger in Texas, unless you’re talking about scrotums, where the SEC wins with Mike Slive and Lesticles Miles.
by Board Certified Scrotologist on Jun 14, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m a Scrotologist since birth, maybe even before. Born in Testicarkana to polytesticulated parents, now living in Erect, N.C.. Go Big Blue (Balls)!
by Board Certified Scrotologist on Jun 14, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's funny, you see
Because he’s 12, and every preteen boy knows that the absolute height of comedy is bad dick jokes.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Jun 15, 2010 4:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
These are lower than dick jokes. These are Reggie White jokes – all about the sack.
by Board Certified Scrotologist on Jun 15, 2010 7:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Still don't see how Texas was fucked in any way with how this worked out.
Oh, and sweaty hairy ballsacks and such.
You can never have too much talent.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jun 14, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
They got yanked around by Texas A&M and the SEC.
by Board Certified Scrotologist on Jun 14, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember this post
10 years from now when the Texas Network flops and the Big Ten makes an offer to Mizzou. And then the 12 Pac is pissed that they were spurned before.
Texas doesn’t seem to play well with others. That will come back to bite them.
Sparty on. Gator done.
by SpartanGator on Jun 14, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
No kidding.
After 14 years of enduring their off-the-field bullshit, I wouldn’t wish them on my worst enemy.
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
Let me see if I follow your logic
(one piece of it)
I, Mr. SEC, have more money than anyone else. If I see a chance to further increase my coffers, I shouldn’t take it because…I’m already #1?
The new year approaching, click in. Let’s facelift bar! Open the wardrobe is not yet found love after another the right clothes? So, also waiting for? Immediate action bar!
Like our Dear President said:
“Sometimes you just have enough money.”
Or blasphemic words to that effect.
by An 'eer with a beer on Jun 14, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
My point is that I doubt it would increase your coffers enough to add value, given that you would now be divided 13 ways, instead of 12
You can never have too much talent.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jun 14, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't presume to speak for Slive
but the numbers would seem to make sense. More viewers in Dallas, Houston, San Antonio and a greater SEC presence in the second biggest state in the union. I’m not sure what doesn’t make sense here, although I can see how 13 teams might have been messy.
by AgAstraPerAspera on Jun 14, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
So CBS would up its ante based on better ratings in Texas?
I’m completely ignorant on how the SEC’s tv deal works. Would that money have come from Texas affiliates?
I guess I just tend to think of the SEC as a national brand already (probably because I end up watching at least the CBS game every week), so individual markets weren’t as important to them. Now kicking out Vandy for aTm would have made perfect sense to me…
You can never have too much talent.
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jun 14, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
The way this sort of works is:
expected better ratings in Texas for the mainline CBS and ESPN/2 telecasts is one part. You also get better distribution for the regional television package (I don’t know whether Raycom keeps a piece of this or not in the new deal, but same difference) — this package now gets bought by big-money stations in Dallas, Houston, San Antonio and smaller Texas markets. In addition, if/when the SEC launches something equivalent to BTN, they’d have a much better chance of getting cable companies to put that network on a standard tier in TX and make 24 million Texans cough up for it.
I think the moving-parts problem might have blown up on Slive a little. A&M might have been worth the add, but he couldn’t talk UT (and with them OU/OSU) into coming. That required plan B to get to an even 14 or 16, but nobody from the ACC was interested, WVU never really appeared to come into serious discussion for some reason, and past them adding anybody else who made even the slightest geographic sense would have been dumpster diving for probable net negatives to the conference’s image and quality of play.
That 17-year-old Hokie sitting in the Greensboro Coliseum rafters in 1997 didn't see any of this coming.
Agreed
I think A&M would have been a huge get for the SEC. The Aggies would have really opened the Texas market, and recruiting, to the SEC and would have provided a huge boost in overall viewership and following. Don’t think the SEC “lost” in this round of expansion; but it’s really hard to say the conference “won” anything here. Unless you’re an SEC homer, in which case you’ll never accept any explanation that somehow doesn’t involve unceasing repetitions of “SEC RULZ!!” and not-clever-in-any-way scrotum references.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Jun 15, 2010 4:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That’s nuts.
by Board Certified Scrotologist on Jun 15, 2010 6:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Meh
This is a question for the data, and as between the economic analysis they’re performing versus your guess, I’m gonna go with them.
The new year approaching, click in. Let’s facelift bar! Open the wardrobe is not yet found love after another the right clothes? So, also waiting for? Immediate action bar!
BTW, Texas didn't save a damn thing.
Fear of a Pac 16 network did.
BTW, UT fans, you realize that Neb, after year 3, will be getting $25 to $26 mil from the Big Ten TV deal, right? That would be as much as you. So, um, shut up.
by meatybob on Jun 14, 2010 11:11 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I;m sorry, I was wrong.
This is is definitely not what I said. Instead, this completely resembles any one of Frank and Charlie and Sweet D’s plans from It’s Always Sunny. Just a complete clusterfuck that ends up doing exactly the opposite of what was intended.
Whatecee
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Jun 15, 2010 4:03 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Well, I fucked that one up completely
What I meant to say was: Whatever. Let’s face it, the Big XII wasn’t saved today, the inevitable was only pushed down the road. Since the underlying disease remains – a league that will cravenly give into any demand by Texas, no matter how preposterous – the patient remains teminal. But hey, at least Baylor and ISU get to pretend they still belong at the adults’ table.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
by HoyaGoon on Jun 15, 2010 4:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well you know how they used to slaughter beeves; hit 'em with a maul right here to stun 'em, and then truss 'em up and slit their throats?


















