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HOW WELL DO YOU ACTUALLY KNOW FOOTBALL?

House on fire: fuzzy on the chemistry, certain on the effects.

People are both far stupider and smarter than one might think. Our brains are, on the whole, designed to pass tests, not write textbooks, which is why you can't necessarily explain step by step the chemistry of how a fire spreads from spark to gasoline to your house, but you definitely recognize the fact that your house is on fire, and that you should probably leave. (If you're really smart, you'll stop smoking meth in bed, but that is relatively advanced stuff for our species.) 

Thus we're not all that bent about a writer admitting they're not much of an X's and O's guy as long as their instincts are reasonably right. The traditional canard slipped by a thousand athletes into any sports discussion is: "Did you play the game?" If yes, then say "You're still wrong;" if no, then say "Well there you go," and let the implied ("pussy") hang there at the end. This ignores basic facts even a rank novice can observe and point out to the player/coach in question: the quarterback twitching on the ground with a separated shoulder, the 28 point margin of defeat on the board, or the cornerback who gave up 278 yards in single coverage against a superior receiver. 

In short: summarizing the effects and pivoting on that isn't that hard. However, there have to be bare minimums in the world. Spit it, Thomas Huxley: 

To a person uninstructed in natural history, his country or sea-side stroll is a walk through a gallery filled with wonderful works of art, nine-tenths of which have their faces turned to the wall. Teach him something of natural history, and you place in his hands a catalogue of those which are worth turning around.

Ditto for football. The SEC Championship Game in 2008 was so much more enjoyable with an awareness of the formation game Dan Mullen played with Nick Saban's defense, and the 2009 game so much more frustrating for the lack of any adjustment or creativity by Florida's offensive staff.  The role strategy plays can be overblown and overwhelmed by talent, but it is there, and it does matter. If you doubt this, ask any team Illinois has played for the past four years. 

There should be--at the minimum--a basic understanding of the following. 

Star-divide

1. The Rules. You don't have to be a lawyer, but at least be familiar with the basics. If you hear illegal formation, you should know why. If the clock's running, you should know why. The AFCA has a good catechism here. Positions should be an implied knowledge set here. 

2. Offense. Okay, you don't have to bust down coaching trees, but you should know a few basics. You should know your I-formation, simple spread sets, and the option. Note: you don't necessarily have to know your flexbone from your Nebraska I from your wishbone (though that's always nice, and the professor appreciates the effort.) Just know the basic formations, plays, and how they work, and soon you'll start seeing the wrinkles and variations and all the fun geeky stuff pulled out in UFR and elsewhere. Wikipedia's got a solid set of basics hyah.  

(Yes, they're bare-bones Mr. I-diagram-five-wide-sets-in-my-sleep, but what's there is the bare minimum. LIke illiteracy, sometimes the victims can get very far without knowing what you might assume are basics. Sometimes they can even coach large universities like Florida or Illinois.) 

3. Defense. Basic fronts only, and that includes the nickel. A lowest common denominator would be the ability to a.) tell if a team is blitzing, and b.) watch the safeties and make a reasonable guess at the coverage. Zone/man is also mandatory stuff.  The Wiki has short, tidy definitions of all of these. 

4. Bare-bones Special Teams. Punting, when it happens, understanding kicker's ranges and yes, maybe the understanding of a few basic fakes. It's important for everyone because nothing, we repeat NOTHING lays bare the soul of a coach quite like his decisions regarding punting. It is the palm for the college football psychic to read to figure out the soul. 

That would be our bare minimum that a writer would have to know, and that a fan should know about football rules. Chris has the definite AP course at Smart Football, but we understand: some of you just want to graduate and get to community college or that sweet job your uncle's getting you at the body shop. It shouldn't excuse not knowing the basics. 

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As long as they dont make statements

about the “nickel being a stupid defense” or that the “I-formation is crap” then who really cares.

But I do like the writers who either let their own negative opinions be known of the program, without being die-hard critics or homers, and the ones that try to get people to understand something schematic when they try to make a point in their article.

by DrB on Apr 14, 2010 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

We suspect the IQ is generally pretty low.

But that’s also a function of time/budget/role: the beatwriter doesn’t really have time, inclination, or incentive to watch film.

by Spencer Hall on Apr 14, 2010 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

In the wiki wiki wiki wiki wiki room...

I would also say this: much of my understanding of football came from long days in high school ditching 7th period government class (yes, I have two degrees in political science now, it’s a show) to hang out in the arcade playing Cyberball. Yes, it’s basicallyl 8-bit backyard football, but as I started paying more and more attention to the real game, things like the West Coast Offense and the zone blitz made much more sense for all those hours of throwing straight into the flat to the running back and blitzing the corners EVERY. SINGLE. DOWN.

I don’t know what the current generation’s overly-simple entry-level video football is – I could probably land a space shuttle on an aircraft carrier in a hurricane before I could figure out Madden 10 – but just a tiny bit of time spent watching the game and controlling it (thank you Murray Head) will go a long way toward making sense of what you see.

(And I say this as the former sports editor of the campus paper for a tiny conservative-arts college with no football team, so it’s not like it did me a damn bit of good…)

"Well, if that ain't a show, I'll kiss your ass." - Gov. Jim Folsom Sr. (D-AL), 1948-52

by VandyImport on Apr 14, 2010 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

You forgot....

Know the difference between an end around and a reverse, which it seems 99% of broadcasters do not.

by ESS EEE SEE Speed on Apr 14, 2010 1:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh goodness, most annoying broadcaster mistake!

"When a guy takes off his coat, he's not going to fight. When a guy takes off his wristwatch, watch out!"
- Al McGuire
www.anonymouseagle.com

by Warrior Brad on Apr 14, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

My personal favorite:

anytime more than two players are scrambling for the ball being described as a “scrum” (this one is probably obscure and only annoying to me.)

by jakldawg on Apr 14, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amendment to Rule 1:

Please do pay attention to the rules eligibility for receivers. Good offensive playcallers can do some nifty stuff with them.

Brian Kelly says no Burger King at 3 AM.

by Ancient Chinese Secret on Apr 14, 2010 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

rules *of* eligibility

Derp.

Brian Kelly says no Burger King at 3 AM.

by Ancient Chinese Secret on Apr 14, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, this happens everywhere.

People want to read something that is entertaining, but since life is one large optimization problem, people don’t have time to be a great writer and have in-depth knowledge of said topic. For the last, say for 25 years, in the sciences I can think of only Stephen Hawking that has really been both. Sure, others have come along with PhD’s, but they haven’t performed in-depth research for decades and/or their research wasn’t really that great to begin with. And even those books tend to be more philosophy than actual science.

by meatybob on Apr 14, 2010 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd say the last 20 years

Asimov was still writing 20 years ago.

There have been few rivals of Aristotle in terms of a comprehensive knowledge of both the science and culture of his times, but good Isaac was one of the few in the ball park.

His essays got me through several chemistry and physics classes in HS and college and his guide to Shakespeare is well worth the $.

by sullivan013 on Apr 14, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno, maybe

Not exactly a guy who expanded our knowledge of science via ground breaking research like Hawking did, but I do get your point. He was certainly more of a scientific commodity than many of the journalists who write about science nowadays.

by meatybob on Apr 14, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

One more thing I would add...

is a relative understanding of what makes a football team good. Here’s a hint: recruiting, player development, and preparation. Not play-calling. It matters, but over the long run it is miniscule in comparison to the above.

In other words, STOP BLAMING ALL YOUR TEAMS FAILURES ON YOUR OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR’S PLAYCALLING.

This would eliminate 80% of all fan criticism and 95% of its bullshit criticism.

by Old South on Apr 14, 2010 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Conditioning, conditioning, strength, conditioning, fitness, and conditioning are key.

The undersized Midshipmen overperform because they can run your sorry ass up and down the field for four quarters without having to stop for a bacon break.

Brian Kelly says no Burger King at 3 AM.

by Ancient Chinese Secret on Apr 14, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

HEY

Don’t shit on the bacon break. It’s the only thing keeping us awake between 2 p.m. and 3 p.m.

by Spencer Hall on Apr 14, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

So when...

that pass into the flat on 3rd and 6 gains two, blame recruiting/player development/preparation. Got it.

/needs a bacon break

by ESS EEE SEE Speed on Apr 14, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

more or less

chances are there was a very compelling reason that play was called. Maybe it the guy in the flat was a check down in a play that often produces a first down when thrown to someone else. Or maybe that receiver was intended because the corners had been dropping back into a cover 3 and the linebacker on that side was slow or quick to pick up on a different receiver.

More than that, though, fans should just exercise some common sense. These guys are at or near the very top of an extraordinarily competitive field and are working unbelievable hours with staggering experience on their resumes. And chances are offensive coordinators don’t call plays that are “obviously stupid.” Of course they make mistakes sometimes and maybe those are obviously wrong. But those are few and far between, and it is not the case that they screw up the 30 times a game fans believe they do.

Exception: Les Miles.

by Old South on Apr 14, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would like to think...

that offensive coordinators do some preparation for situations where they know that in a 3rd and 6 situation, the probability of success of each call. And I realize there could be other factors involved in success of a particular play (e.g. everyone was covered). However, it’s pretty easy to tell when the called play is something so ridiculous (draw play!) in a feeble attempt to try and “fool” the defense on third down. This is not preparation or recruiting or player development, it’s a dumb call. Sometimes dumb calls work (see Miles, Les). But I’ll praise the coordinator who calls a 6+ yard pass on 3rd and 6 over any so-called creative o.c any day.

In the last SB, I thought the Colts had better talent, were as well prepared and probably more disciplined players than the Saints. The Saints had a better play caller.

by ESS EEE SEE Speed on Apr 14, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. Because when you throw that pass to a guy like WVU’s Darius Reynaud, good things happen.

by An 'eer with a beer on Apr 14, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, unless you were a 2009 Florida fan.

In which case you have an obscene wealth of recruits, already-proven players, and tons of preparation.

And Steve Addazzio.

"In case you're wondering what the offense should look like, that wasn't it." - Urban Meyer

by cantcatchuf on Apr 14, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would argue

that in game adjustments are at least as important as preparation. Nothing is more frustrating than running the same play, or using the same defensive formation that isn’t working. And then trying it again.
If you have superior talent, you can just work with that, but if you don’t, it’s critical to modify your game preparation to what the other team is doing.

It never gets to be easy

by chitownhawkeye on Apr 14, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

obvious conclusion

Apparently Patrick Nix has never been OC for your team.

by gtne91 on Apr 14, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

All of them, maybe not

But if you ever watched Michigan State last year you would understand what a difference stupid playcalls can make (both on offense and on defense). When your average four-year-old can guess what play is coming on 3rd and 1, odds are the opposing DC knows. (Seriously, I think we were three times as likely to convert on 3rd and 10+ than we were on 3rd and 1.)

Individual playcalls should not be criticized simply because they didn’t work. For one, it may have been the most successful play in the long run and it just failed that time; for another, you have to keep the defense guessing so occasionally you have to run a play that is somewhat less likely to succeed, in the abstract, than the optimal play. But when you run the same goddamn play every time in a particular situation and it never works and you keep running it anyway … yeah, that deserves some blame.

by SpartanDan on Apr 14, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

THIS

I have actually played and coached at the Pop Warner level, and my dad was a high school coach, and what I believe is that execution is EVERYTHING. If all your guys carry out their assignments, and your timing is right, you will move the ball every. freakin’. time. If one or two guys blow an assignment every play, you will suck. Play calling is WAY overrated. Talent and conditioning help you execute, but quality reps in practice just as important, because you will not do something correctly when you’re all hyped up in a game if you haven’t practiced it a zillion times.

Lack of execution doesn’t always mean poor preparation, though. Football is an exercise in group psychology, and sometimes the team collectively just don’t have it on a given Saturday, despite doing exactly the same stuff in practice that worked all the other times. It feels weird and depressing when it happens to you as a player.

by Golden Hand on Apr 15, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

THE BEST WAY TO LEARN

I didn’t play football. But i’d have to point to one summer spent “studying for the LSAT” where i played so much EA NCAA football with skilled players that i learned a tone about football. The game has all the basics in terms of formation and plays and a reasonable feel for how they match up offensively and defensively. If you want to learn, i think that game is the best crash course one can find

by TheYellowHammer on Apr 14, 2010 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm convinced ...

that playing EA/Madden has become a Cliffs Notes version of film study. There are 12-year-olds who have a better sense of when to use timeouts and challenges than do some head coaches.

Smart Football is a must for any fan, by the way.

Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.

by Blackheartnopants on Apr 14, 2010 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Smart Football is actually too smart for me.

At some point I like to have my football the way I have my hotdogs: Just let me enjoy it without telling me what’s in it.

by CincySooner on Apr 14, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

As to Rule 1 – Ron Cherry and Penn Wagers would like you to remember the important role referees play in determining the outcome of the game. Bob Stoops would also like to remind you of the important part the replay booth official plays.

by hobe g8r on Apr 14, 2010 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

appreciate the shout out

My two beefs are: (1) not having any idea what the line is doing (which causes announcers to misdiagnose screens as regular passes and regular passes as screens, and run plays and discussion of “the hole” to be completely whiffed on); and (2) what Spencer said above about not having a clue if there’s a blitz or what coverage the D is in. It might be too much to ask, but when you put a blitzing player with a funky coverage, you could literally just guess at what they will call it in print or on TV.

Also, in defense of the average fan, I watch the NFL (when I watch it all) generally like a fan, whereas college is a lot more fun to watch for the strategy. There’s more variation between teams and teams have to make actual choices about which strategies they’ll go with. NFL teams do a little bit of everything and the alteration of “22 Z In Rip Right Scat X Choice MR Zip” to “22 Z In Rip Right Scatskadiddle X Pogo QT Zap” is only sort of interesting, and you often lack the context (or the TV angle) that would make it interesting.

by smartfootball on Apr 14, 2010 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

also

appreciate the kind words, and the lack of posting regularly. I do take requests on subjects, though I’m not altogether reliable on getting to them.

by smartfootball on Apr 14, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I couldn't agree more

Watching the lines play is one of my favorite things. Not just to see the war in the trenches but that’s how I learned how to diagnose plays, read run or pass etc.

Yeah BoYeeEEeeE

by InTheBleachers on Apr 14, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, but....

I prefer my football without all the brainy “knowledge” stuff. Give me big, fast, aggressive men violently crashing into each other and I’m happy. (NOHOMO)

by Spartan D on Apr 14, 2010 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm cool with some intellectualness,

but I really just enjoy watching my opponents cry. Yes, I was raised in the Spurrier era.

"In case you're wondering what the offense should look like, that wasn't it." - Urban Meyer

by cantcatchuf on Apr 14, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anecdotal proof only

but I think that is a much more common view in some areas than others.

by GwinnettGamecock on Apr 15, 2010 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lastly

The reason writers/commentators need to understand football is because most post mortems after games is about assigning credit and blame, on either players or coaches. If you don’t understand what they were trying to do (coaches) or were asked to do (players), both credit and blame are difficult to assign.

by smartfootball on Apr 14, 2010 2:38 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Then again...some of us respond thusly to attempts to assign credit or blame in CFB...

MDWM.

Such activities should be reserved for professional sports, not the athletic endeavors of our alma maters…it’s not like I can change the name of the institution on my degrees…why get so worked up about it. I’m a Gator. Period.

by zzgator on Apr 14, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno...

I’m all for assigning blame to [name redacted], and, if things don’t change this season, the Baldy Man.

"In case you're wondering what the offense should look like, that wasn't it." - Urban Meyer

by cantcatchuf on Apr 14, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a current college student I am proud to say...

That I am entering the 2033 season in my NCAA 2010 dynasty mode running a 222 consecutive game winning streak at Oklahoma. It’s scary how I’ve developed the ability to recognize coverages, and essentially call 5 hot routes before the play to set up a gain. Also, just like in real life, recruiting is essential to success, my recruiting classes consist of 10-15 5stars and then a bunch of other shits that I immediately cut.
Plus, having a team comprised of mostly 5 stars allows you to just fuck around and do whatever you want. I put my freshman rb at qb and ran west virginia’s playbook for shits and giggles an entire season and went undefeated. My first game of one season was against #4 Notre dame, I took a 70-0 lead in at half. However, I also had a string of something like 13 consecutive national championships go down the drain after I went undefeated and was voted 3rd, now I can say i know how auburn fans feel.

by Truffle Shuffle on Apr 14, 2010 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

That's completely unrealistic.

How the hell did ND start the season ranked #4?

For what it’s worth, in my corner of the NCAA 2010 multiverse, ND just whomped North Carolina (yes, the Tar Heels of North Carolina) in the 2015 National Championship Game.

Brian Kelly says no Burger King at 3 AM.

by Ancient Chinese Secret on Apr 14, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

ND never loses their prestige in that game.

Personally, I’m on about a 220 game streak myself with Temple. I use Oregon’s playbook. They moved me from the MAC to the Big Ten about 8 years in, and the other perennial powerhouses in the country have turned out to be Cal, Oregon State, Cincy, and Notre Dame. USC hasn’t been very good for years, although they still will occasionally get ranked. OSU and PSU are pretty dominant as well, but Temple kills them every year. Oklahoma State has been better than Oklahoma for the past ten years. Bama, Auburn, and UT dominate the SEC, because all of Florida’s best recruits go to Miami and FSU. Oh, and speaking of Florida, UCF (that’s UCF, not USF) has gone through about a decade cycle of quality, and even managed to make the title game one year, where I promptly destroyed them.

I play 8 minute quarters because it makes it harder to rack up stats, but I did have a RB who broke the all time career TD record in two seasons as a starter. I used the maximum amount of influence to get him to stay for his senior season, but he still left.

The thing that makes me smile is that they kicked Michigan State down to the MAC to make room for my team.

by Salt on Apr 14, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Spartans in the MAC might not be a bad thing......

…..that way when we make the Little Caesar’s Bowl, it is seen as a successful season.

by Spartan D on Apr 14, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

In my dynasty...

..they’re a perennial 1 or 2 win team, even in the MAC. Buffalo and Toledo dominate the conference.

by Salt on Apr 14, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

But honestly......

……..y’all need to get out more!

by Spartan D on Apr 14, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I had to cut myself off a while ago. One of the trophies you can unlock is “60-year dynasty,” and I just don’t know if I can bury my social life that deep. I think I’ll play it until I break JoePa’s record, then sim a few more seasons to get that trophy.

by Salt on Apr 14, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I went to UCF

and Florida, and can say that there is a relatively high amount of optimism that one day UCF will be competitive, though I don’t think anyone expects that in the immediate future (or with George O’Leary)….as for why the do so well in the game, it could have something to do with a large number of the EA sports programers graduating from UCF. There based out of Maitland FL, which is a small town in the greater Orlando area. A lot of their employees are either Knights, or Gators which would help to explain the success of those two schools in the game…as for the anti-Mich St thing, I’ve got nothing. Maybe it’s a sideways, backwards slap at Saban??? That’s the best I’ve got.

by Cardsfan25 on Apr 15, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i call it sabanmetrics

I thing the game is programed for north carolina to be good no matter what, also UCF, Cincy, and Cal are all powerhouses along with BAMA, UF, Ohio st, but still patsys compared to my team. There is some truth to everything, the worst offensive team the last 10 seasons and running….UCONN.

However, i do use the alabama and north carolina playbooks the most, and the power running is unstoppable. I am proud to say I have successfully beaten UT into submission, the last red river game featured the #11 longhorns amounting 34 total yards in a 63-0 throttling. Also, the NCAA sack record has been beaten 5 times, each by the other record holders predecessor.

by Truffle Shuffle on Apr 14, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't have to have played football to understand

it, but it can help. I’ll tell you this, when I was playing at Alabama I would often talk to fans, friends, and relatives and they’d offer their opinions on schemes, player motivation, conditioning, the cause of problems, and other things they could not have possibly known without being on the inside of the machine. Most of their analysis was way, way off. They were certain that we were playing a style of defense that we didn’t play. They would criticize the coach when he made a perfect call (or the call we’d practiced for that very situation all week) even though one of the player’s missed a block or didn’t run a good route. They never saw that stuff.

So yeah, you can know about football without playing. But none of us, not me and not you, will ever really know some things unless we are right there on the ground level when it happens. We can talk about how some play worked very well, but we can’t know all the details. Maybe the defense had it covered perfectly and the quarterback made a once in a lifetime throw. You can’t blame any coach or player for that. You just have to tip your hat to the quarterback and say, “Heck of a throw, kid.”

www.totteringworld.com

by Bamagrad on Apr 14, 2010 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Additionally

Playing allows you to see a lot more than the average person. You can learn the basics of offenses and defenses by playing video games, but playing and coaching will make a person more aware of the smaller things. Secondly, you can really see who knows football and who doesn’t when breaking down gamefilm. You can also see from a certain degree in coaching. I’ve worked with guys who can draw stuff up but they can’t position their players correctly on the field. They also can’t demonstrate proper technique. But the gamefilm is the key. If you want to see who knows football and who doesn’t, hand them a gamefilm and say, “Break it down.” The pretenders are exposed right away.

www.totteringworld.com

by Bamagrad on Apr 14, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Co-sign completely

There’s a difference that comes with sitting in meetings watching 4 defensive backs steps on every play from 2 different angles and then running it back to watch the receivers steps, quarterbacks shoulders etc.

Not a “better than you” ideal but rather a “i look at things differently” deal.

Yeah BoYeeEEeeE

by InTheBleachers on Apr 14, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

So this need for a basic understanding applies to...

fans, writers or media members reporting on the game, or coaches like [name redacted]? Or is it all 3?

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by plzzshop005 on Apr 14, 2010 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Xs and Os are integral, but there's more for college

“Cultural literacy”, if you will: other terms with which every college football writer and fan should be familiar (I understand my list is skewed and contains but a few examples).

Beamer Ball
Bear
Between the Hedges
Da U
Death Valley
Four Horsemen
Granddaddy Of Them All
Happy Valley
Herschel
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Smurf Turf
Sweatervest
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Show some respect for the head of school.

by GwinnettGamecock on Apr 15, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

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