NICK SABAN CAN SQUEEZE YOU IN SOMETIME NEXT YEAR, GIRL
The SEC's new rules capping a class at 25 offers have taken effect. You know this because Houston Nutt decided to deliberately burn down his own house at Ole Miss rather than live under the tyranny of math, for one. (Nutt, having run running backs into ten man fronts for years, is a dedicated enemy of numbers.) The other, more significant sign? Nick Saban telling recruits he has to postpone their offer for a year because--gasp!--they have no more scholarships to offer.
The AJC has the whole story of Justin Taylor's, um, "Thenshirting," the process by which Saban told him they were out of spots, but would be happy to sign him in the 2013 class instead. Shockingly, Taylor's fine with waiting a year, meaning Saban is now selling the British concept of a gap year in the interest of preserving future signees. Taylor did miss his whole senior season with a knee injry, so some extra rehab time would be nice, but this part is probably a slip of the tongue the Alabama compliance department will refute in nanoseconds.
What will do you do this fall? "He said I’m going to stay in Georgia. They are going to find me a job. I’m going to work.
As you all know, schools cannot get kids jobs, and certainly not as part of a recruiting deal for a high school prospect, but we know Alabama is not cheating here because he said "job." Now, if he said "clean-titled car from a Texas corporate motor pool," well, then we'd be talking something interesting AND COMPLETELY FICTIONAL YES COMPLETELY AND ENTIRELY FICTIONAL.
CORRECTION: SCHOOLS MAY ARRANGE FOR EMPLOYMENT. So we learn something new every day.
13.2.3.3 After Completion of Senior Year. An institution may arrange for employment or employ any prospective
student-athlete (regardless of athletics award winner status), provided the employment does not begin
prior to the completion of the prospective student-athlete’s senior year in high school. (See Bylaw 13.12.1.5.1.)
This seems...exploitable? (HT: Andy)
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Oh lord. This will become hypertrophic.
by Owls and Goephs and Craep on Jan 16, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
This business will get out of control.
It will get out of control and we’ll be lucky to live through it.
Go gata!
by theologator on Jan 16, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Well, of course I'll make the kid an assistant manager at one of my branch offices. Is $60,000 enough for living expenses these days?
What kind of booster would I be if I couldn’t offer employment for one of our fine S-As
Passing? Who needs passing?
by RamblinWreck007 on Jan 16, 2012 12:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So would this have made Rhett Bomar-type stuff legal (well, of course they're working, wink wink)
Or does this only apply to “Thenshirts” like this Alabama kid?
by Cantabrigian_UGA_Fan on Jan 16, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty sure Bomar never actually discharged his putative employment-related obligations.
a la mafia “construction work”
by Owls and Goephs and Craep on Jan 16, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm?
So he was supposed to stop drawing a salary upon enrollment, right? I’m not that familiar with the details of the case.
by Cantabrigian_UGA_Fan on Jan 16, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
I was under the impression his job was a no-show job.
Or a “show 10% of reported hours” job. Something along those lines.
by Owls and Goephs and Craep on Jan 16, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, correct
He faked his timesheet, did no work, and got paid as if he did work — by the dealer that provided the coaching staff with their University-provided cars.
Eggs! Eggs are in chocolate cake. And milk! Oh, goodie! And wheat! That's nutrition!
by Burrito Electrico on Jan 16, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
while he was enrolled.
Actually, yeah, gotta give him a sploosh.
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by Chloe Denmark on Jan 16, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Is that the rub?
Everything is okay until this guy starts school at Alabama?
by Cantabrigian_UGA_Fan on Jan 16, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
no clue. but that may have been "arranged" by the school the school didn't recieve additional sanctions from teh NCAA for it.
It could have very well been completely by the boosters.
The school arranging employment , while probably with a booster, would probably be more inclined to follow up on “work status”
Actually, yeah, gotta give him a sploosh.
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by Chloe Denmark on Jan 16, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
this was very funny
i've been fallin' so long it's like gravity's gone and i'm just floatin'...
by JunctionCrimson on Jan 16, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Define perspective student athlete
I interpreted this as referring to someone who has signed an LOI being given a job, as opposed to someone asked to wait until 2013 to sign an LOI.
by Big McLargeHuge on Jan 16, 2012 12:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That's where things probably get hazy.
And NCAA rule interpretin’ comes in.
Trying to kill as many Kerbals as Craig James has (allegedly) hookers.
by AUTigerGSUEagle on Jan 16, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
This is certainly better than what Les Miles did recently (yanking a scholarship after a kid had already moved in), but it’s interesting that Alabama is still pursuing other prospects. It’s not that Bama doesn’t have room. They just don’t have room for Taylor.
is this where i make some offhanded comment about being in the ACC?
where Golden can have a plus 30 class and still have 4-5 spots open for recruits?
no…probably not.
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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
this is one of the reasons why they have so many open schollys.
a lot of guys left early, plus they have at minimum 7 early enrollees that will count towards 2011. plus i believe at least 2 of the kids in the current class wont be academically eligible.
doesnt the SEC no limit the number of early enrollees as well as number of schollys?
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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I have Miami down for 59 returning scholarship players. And they need to load up now, as the NCAA is probably going to take a few scholarships.
by Bud Elliott on Jan 16, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
this
although with a team as young as they will be the next couple of years, hopefully the reduced number wont hurt too bad, although any number taken is a bad thing.
im still getting a handle on all of this scholarshp business, im just glad i dont have to now deal with new fancy self-imposed limits like SEC people do.
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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Seniors
M. James (RB)
C. Holton (FB)
K. Thompkins* (WR)
B. Jones (OL)
J. Lewis* (OL)
D. Smith (DT)*
R. Buchanan (SLB)
R. Armstrong (S)
B. McGee (CB)
V. Telemaque (S)
D. Johnson (DB)
Juniors
S. Morris* (QB)
E. Clements (RB)
M. Hagens (RB/FB)
A. Hurns (WR)
A. Cleveland (TE)
B. Sanders* (TE)
D. Dye* (TE)
C. White* (TE/OL)
S. Henderson (OL)
J. Johnson* (OL)
B. Linder (G)
J. Wheeler* (OL)
L. Robinson (DT)*
C. Porter (DT)
S. Green (DE/OLB)
K. Cain (MLB)
J. Gaines (MLB)
K. Rodgers (CB)
T. Cornelius (S)
A. Highsmith (S)*
L. Gunter (JUCO enroll DB)
by Bud Elliott on Jan 16, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
its fine, were you just posting the list of returnees?
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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Saban's stackin' up recruits like Will Hill lined up Beckys
#SOUR
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by DevilGrad on Jan 16, 2012 12:10 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
just dont knock on his door in the mornin'
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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Looks like he's all ready to get his PhD in applied math at bama
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Well, he's not wrong
there are seven days in a week…
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by Oscar Whiskey on Jan 16, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
its the "at least seven days" that gets me.
the fact he left room open for “but some times i go more than seven days a week” is hilarious.
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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
OT: I found this while searching for "math is hard" images and I have NO IDEA WHY

Go Gamecocks!
by BrotherFlounder on Jan 16, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Math is the worst

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by Oscar Whiskey on Jan 16, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Watch out for MikeLew and the rest of our maffs enthusiasts
by Cantabrigian_UGA_Fan on Jan 16, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
I ain't scared of no MikeLew
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by Oscar Whiskey on Jan 16, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
/sulks in corner with bowl of cottage cheese, pineapple, and ketchup
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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
with little sugar spiders and clownfaces on top
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Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
hah!
still have that picture.
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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
Seen on campus before:
“Barbie was right. Math is hard”.
Passing? Who needs passing?
by RamblinWreck007 on Jan 16, 2012 12:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
please god tell me this was worn by a male student
Actually, yeah, gotta give him a sploosh.
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by Chloe Denmark on Jan 16, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
+1+1+1+1+!
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Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Dunno. It was a bumper sticker on a car
Passing? Who needs passing?
by RamblinWreck007 on Jan 16, 2012 12:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Why would it matter?
The truth is the truth.
the secret ingredient is ... love?!
a female student at tech wearing it would also be ok.
a male student would make it funnier to me.
Actually, yeah, gotta give him a sploosh.
If you can't find me on the twitterz, I don't know what to tell you.
by Chloe Denmark on Jan 16, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Math's a hell of a drug.
A sassy, brassy, classy lassy.
by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 16, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Be careful
of laced equations. They could fuck up the whole batch and next thing you know, you got suds coming out your anus
It Ain't Easy, But It's Worth It.
by DONSLIQ on Jan 16, 2012 12:54 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Ohboy, Mickey Rat!

2012 Orange Bowl Champs: "I haven’t seen a Tiger take a beating like that since Elin grabbed her 9-iron."
by MtnEer_in_SC on Jan 16, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Another don't hate the player, hate the game moment...
the NCAA will start randomly coughing to excuse themselves from the room when asked about this. They will return with a rule book filled with many black markings.
Fumbles. It was always Fumbles
So continues the parade of Fuck Alabama news stories
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You win big, you get more scrutiny
I’m a fan of making the SEC (and the rest of college football only) follow the Big Ten’s oversigning rules. He should only be allowed to offer 25 scholarships if he has 25 openings.
I dont think it would adversely affect the Alabama program at all
by LincolnParkWildcat on Jan 16, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
With kids beating the door down to get in, it wouldn't hurt them.
Will engineer for food and loan payments.
/waits for BamaThrasher to defend practice
//laughs evilly
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by saxattack29 on Jan 16, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Could Florida then give 35 scholarships, considering we have about 35 openings?
Live to fly!
Go Gators!
That Is The New Rule Passed Summer 2011
IIRC…
Limit is now 25 signees per class. Beginning with 2013 class, early enrollees count against the 25 and there are no count backs to previous years with under 25 enrollees (vs. signees). However, if a prep school kid or JUCO kid counted against the 25 in a previous class, he won’t be counted again IF he ends up enrolling a year or two later.
Also, no more Jeremiah Masoli’s in the SEC. To transfer into the SEC, you have to have 2 years eligibility remaining. And the SEC office is now overseeing medical scholarship exemptions instead of allowing schools to make that determination on its own.
So Masoli-ing and grayshirting are done?
by Cantabrigian_UGA_Fan on Jan 16, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
That's too bad. I like the Masoli/Russell Wilson rule.
I think it rewards players who go above and beyond their academic responsibilities.
A Michigan Man may only marvel at the sea of maize and blue on Saturdays, or the face of the Lord himself. Impress the world, but be not impressed by it.
I expect the B1G will institute a similar restriction on graduate students transferring
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I'm surprised this rule has not been exploited on a large scale
If a player redshirts, finishes his undergrad degree in 4 years, then he is a free agent under the NCAA rule which could set off a sweepstakes firestorm for players wanting to improve their draft standing by transferring for their last year.
Was Russell Wilson redshirted, or did he finish his degree at Wisconsin?
by Cantabrigian_UGA_Fan on Jan 16, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Redshirted.
Graduated from NCSU in four years, but had a year of eligibility left, which he spent in Madison as a graduate student.
A Michigan Man may only marvel at the sea of maize and blue on Saturdays, or the face of the Lord himself. Impress the world, but be not impressed by it.
Bret Bielema is trying to exploit it, but Dayne Crist turned him down
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There are some limits to it.
The transfer rule requires the student-athlete to show that he wants to pursue a graduate degree that isn’t offered at his undergraduate school. Where there’s a will, there’s a way, I guess, but some of these guys with more general undergraduate degrees may have a hard time qualifying for more specialized graduate work, and I don’t think grad school admissions are quite as pliable to the needs of the football program.
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This is essentially non-enforceable
Masoli enrolled in a Parks and Rec grad program. He attended class one semester and left town after the last regular season game. He never had any intention of getting the degree. All Masoli or any other player has to do is tell the NCAA, “I changed my mind” and bail.
It's unenforceable at Ole Miss
I had two points, I guess:
(1) You have to find a somewhat specialized grad program your school offers and most don’t.
(2) The kid either has be be legitimately qualified, or your graduate school has to be willing to be abused. Ole Miss’s was, but I’d guess a lot wouldn’t be; they care more about prestige and access to grant money than football.
College sports are to college what genital warts are to genitals. -- Fake Dan Beebe
Et Universitatis Ohioensis delenda est!
Football players are not subjected to the same admission standards/process as regular students. Every school in a BCS conference admits football/basketball players with worse grades and test scores than many regular students who don’t make the cut. What good to great football player who met the minimum NCAA and conference academic requirements has ever been denied admission by a BCS AQ school?
I’d like to see a list of BCS AQ schools who would deny admission to some obscure graduate program for a star football QB that could make the school a lot of money and provide a lot of exposure on the academic side. Winning football/basketball teams increase student admission applications and academic donations. Also, I doubt any grant proposal has ever contained language such as “we deserve this money over schools X, Y and Z because they admitted a football player who had already completed one college degree to enroll in their [insert obscure program name here] graduate program.”
What good to great football player who met the minimum NCAA and conference academic requirements has ever been denied admission by a BCS AQ school?
This is lolworthy
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 16, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Reggie Bush wanted to go to Stanford.
He didn’t.
Also, Demar Dorsey (high 4 star DB prospect) was denied at Michigan in 2010; he briefly landed at Louisville, although he ended up washing out there too and went to a juco.
A Michigan Man may only marvel at the sea of maize and blue on Saturdays, or the face of the Lord himself. Impress the world, but be not impressed by it.
Cue Georgia Tech fans in 5 . . . 4 . . . 3 . . . .
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Both directions too
We got a prospect that met our standards that didnt meet Stanford’s. That isnt the way it normally works, but we took advantage of someones higher standards for once.
the secret ingredient is ... love?!
South Carolina
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2964254
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http://blog.al.com/live/2009/12/admissions_exemptions_benefit.html
Every conference and some good academic institutions were found to make special exemptions for athletes in the AP study a few years ago.
Even Williams and Amherst allow a certain number of athletes
who would not otherwise academically qualify.
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NO SHIT, PEOPLE!
I’m not trying to be difficult here. (That’s Grizzle’s job, it seems, and he’s fucking awesome at it.)
My point — very simply and for the third time — is that many institutions are less likely to bend on graduate admissions standards than on undergraduate admissions standards. I’ve outlined my rationale, need not repeat myself, and now return you to your regularly scheduled dick jokes.
College sports are to college what genital warts are to genitals. -- Fake Dan Beebe
Et Universitatis Ohioensis delenda est!
I got ya
And agree with you, Devil.
Trying to kill as many Kerbals as Craig James has (allegedly) hookers.
by AUTigerGSUEagle on Jan 16, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
I'm mostly cynical, not intentionally difficult
I think IF a Russell Wilson type player (i.e. already earned one degree and was not a discipline problem with previous legal issues like Masoli) could immediately help a school like Cal-Berkley, Stanford, USC, Northwestern, Vandy, Georgia Tech, etc., I do NOT believe they would be subjected to the same admission standards as the average student to certain graduate programs on their campus.
I’m not suggesting Kellogg would admit a Northwestern football player to their MBA program (which wouldn’t qualify anyway since every school has that program), but there is likely an obscure graduate degree program on campus where that QB would be admitted.
The easy example . . .
. . . is a kid who plays for a university without a law school and wants to go to law school. There might be a little wiggle room on admissions, but I’d guess very little, if at all. And we’d all better hope there is no wiggle room for medical schools!
College sports are to college what genital warts are to genitals. -- Fake Dan Beebe
Et Universitatis Ohioensis delenda est!
I know Arkansas DE Jake Bequette finished his Finance degree with a 4.0 with eligibility remaining. He was accepted to the UofA law school but was told he could not attend AND play football. No exceptions for the law school. He ended up taking classes towards a Sports Management grad program instead.
Bottom line is I’m glad conferences are taking action to close certain loopholes allowed by the NCAA, but there will ALWAYS be two sets of rules for football player admissions vs. the average student.
GT has lost some players because the MBA program wouldnt take them
and they were GT undergrads.
the secret ingredient is ... love?!
Not AQ, but Southern Methodist
College sports are to college what genital warts are to genitals. -- Fake Dan Beebe
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Seriously?
The only school EVER to receive the death penalty in football is one of your examples of institutions who would not risk their academic reputation?
It came up quickest on Google.
College sports are to college what genital warts are to genitals. -- Fake Dan Beebe
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Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. SMU doesn't want to risk NCAA anger again.
A Michigan Man may only marvel at the sea of maize and blue on Saturdays, or the face of the Lord himself. Impress the world, but be not impressed by it.
Or they didn't back in July 2010
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by Burrito Electrico on Jan 16, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Randy Moss.
Now we cater to money men, white wine drinkers and other assorted wimps.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Jan 16, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Moss didn't get into Notre Dame
because he WENT TO JAIL for putting another student in the hospital after kicking him in the head. That had nothing to do with academics as Holtz already had a Letter of Intent in his South Bend office drawer.
Close enough.
On some teams, that gets you the starting quarterback job.
Now we cater to money men, white wine drinkers and other assorted wimps.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Jan 16, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
and crushed near to death in a marquee game on nashunul picture box.
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GTHTSUN
by CoastalCowbell on Jan 16, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
Mark Dantonio is puzzled and wants to know what the big deal is.

A Michigan Man may only marvel at the sea of maize and blue on Saturdays, or the face of the Lord himself. Impress the world, but be not impressed by it.
I know.
We’ll make the players wear ties.
That’ll fix it.
Now we cater to money men, white wine drinkers and other assorted wimps.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Jan 16, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
God, MSU fans get SO FUCKING PISSED when you bring that up. So pissed. It's awesome.
@papaalphakilo
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OSU's denied admission to some kids-
they usually end up failing out of Cincinnati, if memory serves
My loyal heart avows no other.
"While you may not give a shit, @mlebowski313 is an unstoppable force of nature [at Words With Friends]" -T-Jax
I'm genuinely torn about this.
On the one hand, I’m generally in favor maximum S-A mobility. On the other hand, it’s kind of unfair to quarterback recruits who enroll in a certain program thinking there are only one or two players ahead of them.
Of course, it can also work the other way around, when players think there are more people ahead of them than there actually are.
As in the January 2008 Michigan Every Three Weekly headline “Stephen Threet Is Probably Shitting His Pants Right Now”.
A Michigan Man may only marvel at the sea of maize and blue on Saturdays, or the face of the Lord himself. Impress the world, but be not impressed by it.
This is true.
Perhaps it would be better if undergratduate to graduate transfers still had to sit out a year. Maybe that would cool this fad down a little.
Does the transfer year count as a player’s redshirt year? If so, this solution obviously wouldn’t work.
It does.
Going back to Threet, since he transferred twice (Georgia Tech to Michigan, then Michigan to Arizona State), the second transfer year counted against his eligibility.
A Michigan Man may only marvel at the sea of maize and blue on Saturdays, or the face of the Lord himself. Impress the world, but be not impressed by it.
Well, it'll be good for guys
who redshirt and finish their degree in 3 years. Which is doable.
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I think Robert Griffin accomplished that.
The bidding war if he had hit the market would have been fascinating.
A Michigan Man may only marvel at the sea of maize and blue on Saturdays, or the face of the Lord himself. Impress the world, but be not impressed by it.
Fortunately for him
he now gets to feature in a legitimate bidding war, with the money transferred over the table.
He finished his degree in 4 years, 3 athletic seasons.
I think Jon was saying it’d be great for guys who finish their degree after their redshirt sophomore seasons(1 redshirt year and 2 eligibility years, for 3 total)
My loyal heart avows no other.
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Hargrave and its ilk cant be too happy with this.
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GTHTSUN
by CoastalCowbell on Jan 16, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone notice what's on the side of the bus in the picture?
I’m somewhat confused
by Cantabrigian_UGA_Fan on Jan 16, 2012 12:20 PM EST reply actions
I don't get it either It's like they painted over an Auburn bus everywhere but the slogan
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It is from a local bus company (If I remember correctly)
Cannot remember the name of it. They probably offered the buses and put the A on it.
Fumbles. It was always Fumbles
he's just saying that to please people
obviously it’s a Bear Bryant reference
People who live in glass houses should not hang out with Charles Barkley.
Stache pic upgraded to Championship mode
by Wallacewade04 on Jan 16, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Saban is unclear on the concept of "commitment"
Its a 2 way street.
the secret ingredient is ... love?!
To be fair to him, he can't help it if the supply of Alabam roster spots is smaller than the demand to own one of them
by BabyI'mBurning on Jan 16, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
but he can help the fact that he doesnt have to try and please EVERY PLAYER EVER
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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
I thought that's what salesmen were supposed to do?
Actually, yeah, gotta give him a sploosh.
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by Chloe Denmark on Jan 16, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
the issue is there is just so very little of Saban to go around
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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
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Trying to kill as many Kerbals as Craig James has (allegedly) hookers.
by AUTigerGSUEagle on Jan 16, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
aww...stupid NFF
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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
Really? Shows up fine for me on my screen.
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by AUTigerGSUEagle on Jan 16, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
it's locked
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Well crap.
It’s a soldier looking over the rim of a building doing surveillance with binoculars and the “I see what you did there” meme.
Trying to kill as many Kerbals as Craig James has (allegedly) hookers.
by AUTigerGSUEagle on Jan 16, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
I thought that salesmen were supposed to create the illusion of demand
by BabyI'mBurning on Jan 16, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Well that too.
but then once your convinced you want it, they have to keep “working” to keep you around
Actually, yeah, gotta give him a sploosh.
If you can't find me on the twitterz, I don't know what to tell you.
by Chloe Denmark on Jan 16, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
He could always just not sign more players than spots available.
But then those players might end up at rival schools, so that’s no good.
in an ideal world, no one would be allowed to offer more scholarships then they have available
problem solved, but unfortunately, this wont happen for a while
by LincolnParkWildcat on Jan 16, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
In an ideal world, no one could receive an offer until they passed the clearinghouse
or possible some pre-clearinghouse.
If you aint gonna be eligible, no need to receive an offer.
the secret ingredient is ... love?!
Yeah, signing up extra people in the hope that they're dumb is not a good idea
by Cantabrigian_UGA_Fan on Jan 16, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
the clearinghouse isn't built to work that way, to put it simply
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Hence my pre-clearinghouse comment
We know what the clearinghouse standards are.
You can check the SAT/ACT scores to see if he is yet eligible.
the secret ingredient is ... love?!
the clearinghouse is the biggest pain in the ass known to man
surely there is a better way to do things.
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
I would think so
I guess what Im suggesting is much more informal process than the clearinghouse.
But, I can look at a guys transcript and SATs and do the caculation to see if he is yet eligible. Clearinghouse may disagree in some cases, but Im sure I can get 95% accuracy.
the secret ingredient is ... love?!
some schools require that you be initially cleared before signing or even offering
the only time it becomes a problem is if ther are some questions as to eligibility. Most kids sail right through the process.
not if you're from another country. beleeeeee me
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Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
PAWWWLLL WE GOTTA MAKE SURE THEM FERRINERS AINT TRYIN' TO TRICK US
WHO KNOWS WHAT GOBBLEDYGOOK THEY LEARNIN’! AH CANT EVEN UNDERSTAND THEM PAWWWLL
by Cantabrigian_UGA_Fan on Jan 16, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
This was pretty much the failure of Tub's last two classes at Auburn
He signed full classes, and then only half of them would be able to report due to grades issues. One thing I’ve loved about Chizik’s time at Auburn so far is that we’ve had VERY few players not qualify.
Trying to kill as many Kerbals as Craig James has (allegedly) hookers.
by AUTigerGSUEagle on Jan 16, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
cause its not hard to qualify to accept bags of cash.
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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Tuberville must've been a bad recruiter
by LincolnParkWildcat on Jan 16, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
duh-doy
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by Oscar Whiskey on Jan 16, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
I'm glad I don't follow rakrootin' that closely
Because it all just looks really bad
by Cantabrigian_UGA_Fan on Jan 16, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Wasn't that the same for Orgeron at Ole Miss?
He’d sign anybody with a pulse and sort out eligibility later.
Proud tradition at Ole Miss carried on by Right Rev'rend Giggatah
We’ll see if Mr. Freeze keeps the heritage
by Cantabrigian_UGA_Fan on Jan 16, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
It's a shame Freeze didn't go to GT
imagine all the Batman:TAS references we would get from the student section, such a waste…
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by Oscar Whiskey on Jan 16, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
The unfair thing for Ole Miss is that the athletes have to meet standards
that the average student there couldn’t.
by Ardbeg on Jan 16, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
GT already does this
No offer to guys who wont be eligible.
We have had one guy declared ineligible since I have followed this stuff, IIRC, he failed to schedule a class spring of senior year that he needed to meet Tech’s standards. He still met NCAA standards, and went elsewhere.
the secret ingredient is ... love?!
this explains a lot.
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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sure this has happened at UGA before, but I wholeheartedly agree that players should have qualify before getting an offer
by Cantabrigian_UGA_Fan on Jan 16, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
uga seems to be on the good side of SEC academic politics
makes me almost want to stop making Jan Kemp references.
Nah, just kidding, those will NEVER stop.
the secret ingredient is ... love?!
I would hope we've learned our lesson to a certain extent
by Cantabrigian_UGA_Fan on Jan 16, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
How many points is a 3 point basket worth?
Signs point to NO.
the secret ingredient is ... love?!
Pfft, basketball is an entirely different realm
I am also a poor fan of UGA basketball
by Cantabrigian_UGA_Fan on Jan 16, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
It means when you sign 22, 22 show up
So it has that going for it
the secret ingredient is ... love?!
How long til the SEC west just starts stashing WRs and DBs on the track team?
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Et Universitatis Ohioensis delenda est!
Something about those not learning history doomed to repeat it
by Cantabrigian_UGA_Fan on Jan 16, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
So I guess we can't put Denard back on the track team to make room for one more freshman.
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They already set up women's crew to get around Title IX
by Cantabrigian_UGA_Fan on Jan 16, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
Well, they ought to be able to park a couple of offensive linemen there.
College sports are to college what genital warts are to genitals. -- Fake Dan Beebe
Et Universitatis Ohioensis delenda est!
Dont make the offer if you arent willing to stick to it.
If Saban had told Taylor back last year “We cant offer you, but we want you if we have enough spots open” that would have been fine.
Personally, I think they should get rid of the concept of National Signing Day and allow LOIs whenever offers are allowed.
the secret ingredient is ... love?!
Doesn't basketball have an early signing period?
Is there a reason why they have one for basketball and not football?
theres only one FaxCam girl?
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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, basketball has one.
I think two periods for football would be good, but just one super giant period that stretchs from, say, June 1 after junior year of HS thru August before freshman year starts would be best.
the secret ingredient is ... love?!
I thought football had an early signing period but the NCAA did away with it
or was that there was talk of instituting an early signing period but it was eventually shot down…
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by Oscar Whiskey on Jan 16, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't mind if Saban told him at the time of commitment
“Look, we may not have a spot for you, you will likely have to grayshirt and if that’s a problem feel free to go elsewhere.”
Yes, he can.
He has x scholarships available, he can only offer x scholarships to players. Not x+3.
Nadolig Hapus
Time for some free market football!
Bama recruits to bid on open schollies
https://twitter.com/#!/SpartanKC
Maybe this guy

can teach him a thing or two about the circle of commitment.
Go gata!
by theologator on Jan 16, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So I am used to neither two posts going at once nor not ripping through threads at SEC SPEED PAWWWWL
I should visit on more non-Saturdays.
Go Gamecocks!
by BrotherFlounder on Jan 16, 2012 12:26 PM EST reply actions
What a wasted opportunity.
Assistant Coach Andiambro.
Now we cater to money men, white wine drinkers and other assorted wimps.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Jan 16, 2012 12:34 PM EST reply actions
all of his play calls would just be
WELL THEN WHY DONT YOU GIVE IT TO SHAW THEN! SINCE YOU LOVE HIM SO MUCH!
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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"You better watch your mouth dagnabbit cause I will!"
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by Oscar Whiskey on Jan 16, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
YOU CANT JUST DECIDE THAT IM DRUNK
THAT DECISION IS MINE AND GODS
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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Careful there, Meatwad.
Passing? Who needs passing?
by RamblinWreck007 on Jan 16, 2012 12:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
ahhh, my nickname for my brother
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Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
The guy on the right in the dark uniform looks exactly like my father 20 years ago
Almost did a double take there
Passing? Who needs passing?
by RamblinWreck007 on Jan 16, 2012 12:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That would be Alec Baldwin.
Trying to kill as many Kerbals as Craig James has (allegedly) hookers.
by AUTigerGSUEagle on Jan 16, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
you mean Awic Balwin?

People who live in glass houses should not hang out with Charles Barkley.
Stache pic upgraded to Championship mode
by Wallacewade04 on Jan 16, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I'll defer to the Lt. Nolan haha
People who live in glass houses should not hang out with Charles Barkley.
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by Wallacewade04 on Jan 16, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
I would go with Nolan's first name
and Bawwwlrin for phonetic spelling on the last name, personally.
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by AUTigerGSUEagle on Jan 16, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
you are correct.
i typed the last name, and then the more i sounded it out, the more off it became. something closer to “balrin” is good.
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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
I guess so. It's the haircut
Exact same haircolor and cut/style
Passing? Who needs passing?
by RamblinWreck007 on Jan 16, 2012 12:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Alec Baldwin minus about 40 pounds
Passing? Who needs passing?
by RamblinWreck007 on Jan 16, 2012 12:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
AREC BARDRIN
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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Edward Elric?
"Four seconds on a stopped clock... can you believe this?"
-- WVU announcing legend Jack Fleming, as WVU set up for the winning field goal in the 1975 Backyard Brawl
by An 'eer with a beer on Jan 16, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Roll Tide?
People who live in glass houses should not hang out with Charles Barkley.
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by Wallacewade04 on Jan 16, 2012 12:41 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Alabama has hired Washington's OC, Nussmeier
according to ESPN. Interesting.
Trying to kill as many Kerbals as Craig James has (allegedly) hookers.
by AUTigerGSUEagle on Jan 16, 2012 12:46 PM EST reply actions
conflicting stories
we’re talking to Hamilton of Stanford as well
i've been fallin' so long it's like gravity's gone and i'm just floatin'...
by JunctionCrimson on Jan 16, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, this is pretty much just "sources" at the moment.
But here’s the ESPN article: http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7467571/alabama-crimson-tide-hires-doug-nussmeier-run-offense
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by AUTigerGSUEagle on Jan 16, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Stanford's style seems more Saban's style
But that’s just my thoughts
by ItsComplicated on Jan 16, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I would agree.
That’s why I said “interesting.” Although isn’t Sark more the brains behind that offense at UW? Maybe Nussmeier will come in with a “here’s the keys, don’t fuck it up” mandate.
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by AUTigerGSUEagle on Jan 16, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Wrong sport, but too funny not to post

the secret ingredient is ... love?!
by gtne91 on Jan 16, 2012 12:48 PM EST reply actions 10 recs
that's fancy right there
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Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Right-click. Save-as. Send to every UNC coworker at Da Firm.
College sports are to college what genital warts are to genitals. -- Fake Dan Beebe
Et Universitatis Ohioensis delenda est!
look, the janitors are employed by a service agency, not the firm
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
OK, Boeheim.
Roy Williams has thrown down the ACC gauntlet for bitchasshattery.
Now we cater to money men, white wine drinkers and other assorted wimps.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Jan 16, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
?
Are you calling Boeheim a bitchass?
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 16, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
yes he is.
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Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
by Londonjoe on Jan 16, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Of course not, Nick.
I would never do that.
Now we cater to money men, white wine drinkers and other assorted wimps.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Jan 16, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
enabler of domestic violence maybe, but not bitchass
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
i remember Boeheim was on PTI years ago
about to play Bama to get to the elite 8. Didn’t mention them at all. Just about facing UCONN next (completely assuming that Bama would be beat, along with the PIT hosts). Only to have it handed to him by a Coach Mark G bama team…that was truly stunning.
yes Bama got killed by UCONN the next game. Gordon couldn’t miss. Like every 2 guard that Bama played against under Gottfried
i've been fallin' so long it's like gravity's gone and i'm just floatin'...
by JunctionCrimson on Jan 16, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
I remember that
And I remember Kornheiser only asking about UConn
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 16, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Bring out.......THE FUZZY T-BAG!!
(Not…the fuzzy t-bag!)
We're going to play like we're in a bad mood.
Pitt game tonight. how bad can Pitt be?
(really fucking bad I think)
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Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Jamie Dixon says... nothing.
Because he’ll be fired.
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by SPORTSGEEK42 on Jan 16, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
NEIN.
HE STAYS.
Now we cater to money men, white wine drinkers and other assorted wimps.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Jan 16, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
Petersen is still in charge there
He stays
"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"
fuck, that would be terrible
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by Oscar Whiskey on Jan 16, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
or,
#TeamSalmaHayeksAndSofiaVergarasBoobs4OscarsHosts
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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Not if he was drunk
ALL THE PENIS JOKES
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 16, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
#GeorgeClooneysGirlfriend4OscarsHost
on the condition she not say anything, and just stand there naked.
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"Always the corn, never the hole"
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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
which one?
Actually, yeah, gotta give him a sploosh.
If you can't find me on the twitterz, I don't know what to tell you.
by Chloe Denmark on Jan 16, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
the current one. Kiebler.
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"Always the corn, never the hole"
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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
definitely up there
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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
SK hearts the Ravens Too Dept:
According to E!, Keibler was almost late to the Golden Globes awards show because she was watching football.
“I was watching the Ravens game,” the former pro wrestler and Ravens cheerleader said. “I was sitting there in my Ravens jersey with the dog [Einstein], who was also wearing a jersey. I had to watch the game.”
(I guess it is true what they say about blondes. ducks)
Golden Globes........Stacy Keibler....
#teamGolson
進者往生極楽 退者無間地獄
Notre Dame Fightin' Irish + Hawaii Warriors
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by Kelly's Gyros on Jan 16, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Objection. Relevance.
Clooney’s eye for talent is such that we could make this deal even before knowing who the GF would be as of Oscar night.
College sports are to college what genital warts are to genitals. -- Fake Dan Beebe
Et Universitatis Ohioensis delenda est!
^
this
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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
How much of an eye does he really need?
Clooney:women who want to date him::Alabama:high school football players
He doesn’t exactly have to look hard to find eye candy.
Yes, it's probably more about talent's eye for him.
A Michigan Man may only marvel at the sea of maize and blue on Saturdays, or the face of the Lord himself. Impress the world, but be not impressed by it.
what? You forgot something there
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
in his case though
it is entirely ok to give spots to all of them
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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Wait, how the hell is this kosher?
A Michigan Man may only marvel at the sea of maize and blue on Saturdays, or the face of the Lord himself. Impress the world, but be not impressed by it.
It involves neither pigmeat nor cheeseburgers.
by Owls and Goephs and Craep on Jan 16, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Cam Newton
Holes, they exist. It’s the job of your program to find and exploit them.
/does not personally agree with either of these 2 examples
by ItsComplicated on Jan 16, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Whatever.
A Michigan Man may only marvel at the sea of maize and blue on Saturdays, or the face of the Lord himself. Impress the world, but be not impressed by it.
by Tremendous on Jan 16, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This should be included in all online dictionaries
with the definition of “shit-eating grin.”
Now we cater to money men, white wine drinkers and other assorted wimps.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Jan 16, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I wholeheartedly approve
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by Oscar Whiskey on Jan 16, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Permissible.
A Michigan Man may only marvel at the sea of maize and blue on Saturdays, or the face of the Lord himself. Impress the world, but be not impressed by it.
"Grinnin like a goat eatin briars."
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
GTHTSUN
by CoastalCowbell on Jan 16, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
so, colleges = master CPAs and tax lawyers?
by BabyI'mBurning on Jan 16, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
At least on the recruiting side of things
You think grey shirting was invented by someone with a PE degree?
by ItsComplicated on Jan 16, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
/puts habanero hot sauce on pasta
//can’t feel tongue
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Habanero burnt your tongue?
Pfft
by Cantabrigian_UGA_Fan on Jan 16, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
I put a lot on
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 16, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Is it from Quetzalacatenango?
Eggs! Eggs are in chocolate cake. And milk! Oh, goodie! And wheat! That's nutrition!
by Burrito Electrico on Jan 16, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe

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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 16, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
This is my rule on peppers.
If you dont see your animal guide, they werent hot enough.
the secret ingredient is ... love?!
by gtne91 on Jan 16, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Right
I used to not like very hot peppers because I felt it distracted from the food’s flavor, but now my tongue is scorched enough that Tabasco sauce is pretty run-of-the-mill
by Cantabrigian_UGA_Fan on Jan 16, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
Which is precisely why I USE Tabasco, oddly enough
It is no longer “hot” to me. It’s a flavoring.
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"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
i have a feeling it is
hes a douche
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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
http://blindgossip.com/?p=35876
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Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Astounding
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 16, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
I like that the generic football player is wearing Lions gear.
A Michigan Man may only marvel at the sea of maize and blue on Saturdays, or the face of the Lord himself. Impress the world, but be not impressed by it.
really surprised if that is the case
Jay is a douche, no doubt but he isn’t usually such a major asshole. His father, on the other hand, is both a giant douche and asshole.
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who is his dad?
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Mr. Cutler?
Now we cater to money men, white wine drinkers and other assorted wimps.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Jan 16, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
HAH!
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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
!!!!

Now we cater to money men, white wine drinkers and other assorted wimps.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Jan 16, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
:)

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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Sin
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Mr. Cutler
/shows self out
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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
He is a local cop in Santa Claus, Indiana
most UF fans remember him as starting fights in the stand during the 2005 game (though in that game, I was willing to kill the refs and would have done so and nary a non-UF fan would have convicted me). Met him and Mrs. Cutler at a Denver-Indy game a few years ago and she was really nice – he said two words (seeing as how I was rooting for his son and decked out in vandy gear at a Indy home game, you would think he would be a little more polite).
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I'd bet, after this and other stories, Jay has matured into a 5 alarm douchenozzle
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but he really isn't
He is incrediby active with the JDRF and donates crazy amounts of money and time working with kids (all of this is done without publicity because he does not want the work to be focused on him over the kids). I have heard a alot of stories of him doing nice things for people in the Chicago area so this seems really out of character, even for him.
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he has 0 personality and is incredibly stand-offish to those who don't know him
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Well, he did tell Mike Martz to go fuck himself.
That makes him aces in my book.
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Vandy fan uses "nary" in a sentence.
/thats not sec
by Cap Town Cat on Jan 16, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
The No Fun Filter blocks the link...
…anybody wanna summarize for me?
https://twitter.com/#!/SpartanKC
Cutler was out to eat with a friend.
Everyone left him alone for the most part, but one guy came up and said “my grandma is a huge football fan, loves the Bears and you as a player. Would you mind saying hi on your way out?”. Cutler told him to fuck himself, then flipped him off as he left.
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I really hope this story is 100% true.
I’ll grovel, as I do.
by dirt sandwich on Jan 16, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Someone actually connected Tebow and 9/11...
the fact that it says "philly" in the link
means im not even going to read it. nor does it surprise me.
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by Lt. Philip Nolan on Jan 16, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
The featured comment regarding that article
on Deadspin is really fucking funny. Deep in the spider closet, but REALLY fucking funny.
I told them before the game if those bastards have to run the fumblerooski, come to the sidelines and party because they have given up their right of manhood.
Oh my.
I really did not want to laugh but I could not help it.
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
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by Pain in the Sash on Jan 16, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Oh my god
That joke is fucking gold.
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 16, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
I cannot help but laugh at that.
Just Wow
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by pleaseplaykindle on Jan 17, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
can not believe that got by an editor
got a headache
what was his point again? I’m not even sure
People who live in glass houses should not hang out with Charles Barkley.
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by Wallacewade04 on Jan 16, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Headline from the Feb 25 1946 Victoria (TX) Advocate:
SAVE MONEY BY MIXING COUGH SYRUP AT HOME
JaMarcus is very interested in this, I’m sure.
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It seems like every offseason
There’s at least ONE person going through newspaper archives.
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 16, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
Every off season for me.
It’s HARD finding shit on dead conferences. It really is.
Not to mention small colleges.
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Victoria is southwest of Houston, where Johnny Jolly is from
COINCIDENCE????
Eggs! Eggs are in chocolate cake. And milk! Oh, goodie! And wheat! That's nutrition!
by Burrito Electrico on Jan 16, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
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If u steal a gun is that armed robbery lol
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I'm sure it was purely hypothetical--probably doing extra credit for his ethics class.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Jan 16, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
It could be. If you take the gun off the guy then make your get away by force or threat of force with the same gun.
Like Tuco in the Good the Bad and the Ugly. Takes gun from vendor, asks how much. Vendor says $50. Tuco laughs, cocks it, and says, lolno, how much? The vendor then gives him money from the register and Tuco walks away with the gun.
I should write crim law exams for a living.
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It ain't armed robbery if the gun ain't loaded
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by Burrito Electrico on Jan 16, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm sure that's a movie/song quote but it actually is even if gun is unloaded
Just in case someone reads that and tries to use it as a defense.
Allow me to clarify

Rather amusingly, the GIS for “hi mcdunnough gun ain’t loaded” returned third this comment., apparently on the strength of “HI” alone.
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by Burrito Electrico on Jan 16, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
If you use your legs, it can't be...........
Armed robbery.
/csiyeahhhhhhhh
by Cantabrigian_UGA_Fan on Jan 16, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
What's that I hear in Norman?
Could it be a LOUD RUMBLING AND GREAT SHAKING OF BASS?!?!
Free at last!
Why yes, yes it could be.
Probably already seen the new story, but figured I’d link it here, anyway.
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by AUTigerGSUEagle on Jan 16, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
Foodie question:
Say I’m trying to cook up some equivalent of a grilled cheese sandwich: wheat bread, jack cheese, and salami. What type of oil should I use in the cooking pan?
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Butter.
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by jonfmorse on Jan 16, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
paula deen hive'd
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Paul and Wilford, sitting in a tree
they have DI-A-BEE-TUZ
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by lhb98 on Jan 16, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
butter
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THEESE
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by Kelly's Gyros on Jan 16, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
If not butter:
Grapeseed oil. High smoke point, leaves little taste.
Also grill the insides of the bread lightly first, before flipping, so that the cheese begins melting immediately.
Free at last!
Grapeseed oil:
is this widely available in grocery stores? Or will I have to go to the fancy person’s grocery store across town?
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Definitely at Whole Foods.
Sometimes at Kroger, HEB, etc., depending on the quality of your store.
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The existence of both grapeseed oil and rapeseed oil confuses me.
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Fun fact:
Canola oil is derived from rapeseed, but it was renamed canola for obvious reasons.
by Cantabrigian_UGA_Fan on Jan 16, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
This I know.
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And the term "Canola" is derived from "Canadian Oil Association" or something such-like
A sassy, brassy, classy lassy.
by LoneStarHoosier on Jan 16, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
NDNation wonders why you didn't refer to that as "the normal place to shop"
Then again, they may not like all the white wine drinkers at Whole Foods
by Cantabrigian_UGA_Fan on Jan 16, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
ND Nation doesn't do it's own shopping.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Jan 16, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
WRONG.
Having some outside party do your shopping is elitist and smug.
NDNation sends their WIVES to the store, in order to get them out of the house so they can watch football in peace.
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Isn't that what I said?
ND Nation posters don’t do their own shopping. They don’t know where their wives go, as long as they come back with their Killian’s.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Jan 16, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
I misread the intent of your comment.
I am abashed, sir.
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I read it as something involving hired help.
A Michigan Man may only marvel at the sea of maize and blue on Saturdays, or the face of the Lord himself. Impress the world, but be not impressed by it.
It's okay, it was left open.
But let’s be honest, for ND Nation types, wife = hired help.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Jan 16, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
I dunno
I mean, sometimes you care about the help’s opinion.
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by jonfmorse on Jan 16, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Or the cashiers
Buncha liberal-arts majorin’, hippie-herb-tokin’, ninety-nine percenters.
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Farmers' markets tend to have them as well.
I’ve gotten grapeseed oil at Kroger and at the market, but the Kroger one had less selection and smaller containers.
Nadolig Hapus
seems a little excessive, but...
mayonnaise… my wife swears by the stuff for grilled cheese.
Me not so much, I am all
#TeamButter,Y’all
Cook it on a George Foreman grill (or non union equivalent) if you have one.
Much less greasy, still tasty as all hell.
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And don't use oil/butter...should've said that.
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Jonathan Toews will eat your baby if it means two points.
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Y'all cray cray.
Butter makes it yummier.
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Crude.
Now we cater to money men, white wine drinkers and other assorted wimps.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Jan 16, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
TOO SOON
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GTHTSUN
by CoastalCowbell on Jan 16, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry.

Now we cater to money men, white wine drinkers and other assorted wimps.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Jan 16, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
agh
that was one of the best/worst/funny/infuriating things of the past couple of years.
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GTHTSUN
by CoastalCowbell on Jan 16, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
Little joys in life
AP reports in post-war papers actually referring to Arkansas teams as the “Porkers”.
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According to Kevin Scarbinsky...
Taylor is now no longer happy with Alabama asking him to greyshirt. I guess someone decided to sit down and explain to him what this REALLY means.
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by AUTigerGSUEagle on Jan 16, 2012 4:07 PM EST reply actions
Thank fucking god
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by Nick Petrilli on Jan 16, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
this reminds me of last years "________-shirted" thread.
dumbshirted
fuckshirted
and the like
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GTHTSUN
by CoastalCowbell on Jan 16, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
Derpshirted
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by SPORTSGEEK42 on Jan 16, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
One does not equal the other
The NCAA limits scholarships to 85. That creates an intense competition for those 85 GIAs at schools like Alabama – the exact same dynamic that creates intense competition for scholarships at MIT and Harvard for the academic stars.
This is NOT about a kid going to college. He’s either going to go to college somewhere for free by playing football, or he’s going to go the way most people do – by paying tuition. This is about a kid playing football for Alabama, which is entirely another matter. He’s 26 on a list of 25 for a program which has 200 incredibly talented kids who would give anything to play there. For a program which represents the MIT of football, except the NCAA makes their athletic MITs play by the same rules as San Diego State.
Amazing how easily the media conflates "playing football at Alabama" with "going to college," and how quickly jealous fans gobble it up.
Lazy thinking and lazy journalism.
by Bocktean on Jan 16, 2012 9:12 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yes, he's 26 on a list of 25 (that currently has 27 commits)
And he’s been committed for almost a year. Bama gonna Bama.
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You're missing the distinction
MIT doesn’t accept 1600 new freshmen and THEN tell 100 of them they can’t show up until next year.
If Saban and Alabama are so popular that they can maintain a waiting list — like selective colleges do — that’s their prerogative, but they should do so in a forthright manner that allows students to choose their college with the benefit of full information about where they stand.
(Hey, it’s YOUR analogy.)
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MIT doesn't have an 85/25 cap
I’m not comparing scholarship regulations or acceptance procedures. I’m comparing hierarchies and their impact on demand.
A 3-star with an iffy knee retains a scholarship offer at Alabama after everyone else pulled back. We’ll see who else steps to the table at this point. If you want to manufacture an ethical crisis over a grey-shirt, go ahead – but raking the one school who’s willing to stand by the kid over the coals seems pointless and counter-productive to me if your agenda remains what’s best for the kid.
He’s lost nothing at this point. He’s being asked to delay enrollment so Alabama can meet numbers with healthy recruits who can contribute immediately. He can still go anywhere else he chooses. But perhaps Alabama should have pulled their offer when he blew the knee. That would have left nothing to chance and retained their ability to offer him later, if you think that would have been the more ethical course.
The article clearly states that Alabama indicated the rehab would be critical moving forward. Maybe someone should have been paying closer attention to medical data on recruits during their national championship run – but we’re right back to NCAA limits on personnel again, aren’t we?
Then do away with the limits
The limits are the ultimate problem. If Alabama can afford 120 football scholarships and the Title IX balancing act that comes with it, so be it.
Until then, playing football for Alabama, or LSU, or Texas, means more internal competition than playing football at Duke. Fact of life. He’s a running back rehabbing a knee, and he wants to play football at one of the premier programs in the country in return for a free education. They asked him to grey shirt. Hardly an ethical crisis, IMO, and hardly an issue limited to Alabama. The oversigning guy shut down his web site when it was buried beneath evidence of the exact same thing at dozens of other programs.
Classic case of media making a mountain out of a molehill.
the oversigning site is back FWIW
Texas does not oversign. If a player is asked to greyshirt, then the coach needs to learn how to count so that he is never in position to put a potential student athlete in this position. Greyshirting, backcounting, and oversigning should not be allowed. A coach should be responsible for the student-athletes he recruits. If they dont pan out on the field, then its the coach’s fault for misjudging their talent.
by LincolnParkWildcat on Jan 17, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
Barkign Carnival
a Texas website, spent the month of December tracking attrition on the current team to make room for the incoming class and rid the team of recruiting misses.
Somehow when it happens in December, it’s cool, but when it happens during the summer, it’s not.
No, they asked him to greyshirt after he had been offered a scholarship almost a year ago
And had been committed to them for almost a year. He was the 7th commitment of this signing class, not the 26th (or 27th, which is where they currently stand). This is an ethical issue.
Nadolig Hapus
Should have pulled the scholarship when he blew the knee
Purdue did the exact same thing to a kid last year – except they pulled the scholarship altogether, and they did it a week before signing day.
No press. No diatribes from anonymous writers on web-sites. Apparently it’s OK so long as you’re not Nick Saban and you kick the kid to the curb instead of asking him to delay enrollment for a semester.
“Oh, I’m just generating awareness by aiming at the top guy.”
Bull. This argument has always been a double-standard aimed at one program and one guy, which is why it lost all of its credibility and momentum the first time.
And here comes the Alabama persecution complex.
Ole Miss has signed 120 kids over the last four classes- you might notice that we make LOTS of Houston Nutt jokes around here, many of them centered around his inability to count.
Ole Miss 120, Auburn 113, Arkansas 111, Alabama 107, South Carolina 106, Florida State 104, OkSU 104, Miss. St. 102, Wazzu 102, LSU 101.
Note that those are the kids that should be in school this year, and so those schools had between 16 and 35 kids who got left in the cold. It’s not aimed at one program or one guy- it is aimed at one region of the country, because those are the people who are doing it.
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Oh, so it's all imaginary?
Puh-leeze. Your own list cites schools in different regions of the country, and the most vocal zealots aim a disproportionate amount of their fire at Alabama and Saban. That’s hardly an illusion born of paranoia.
The B1G, for example, turns over a lot of players, as demonstrated by responses on OS.com. Most of the math argument against Alabama depends on counting the kids who never enroll (baseball of non-qualifiers) as kids “chased off.” The rest of the disparity lies in the number of kids who red-shirt and the number leaving early for the pros. What’s left? No difference at all, really, if you’re comparing Iowa and Alabama’s input/output numbers.
But that would be context, which challenges the conventional wisdom, which means certain audiences will take extraordinary measures to ignore or discount it.
"Different regions of the country"
of the top 10 schools, 6 are in the SEC West, 1 is in the SEC East, 1 is sandwiched right between the SEC West and SEC East, and then there’s OkSU and Wazzu.
Show me the numbers on baseball kids and non-qualifiers who sign- because redshirts count against your scholarship numbers, and there are not that many more SEC kids leaving early than B1G kids or Big XII kids leaving early, yet they don’t mass populate this list.
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