GOD'S AWAY ON BUSINESS
This year's opening piece is not last year's piece, and could not be after this offseason. Down the rabbit hole we go.
I'd sell your heart to the junkman baby
For a buck, for a buck
If you're looking for someone to pull you out of that ditch
You're out of luck, you're out of luck
This was the chair and desk of the newsdesk on Libyan state television on Sunday, August 21st, 2011.
After years of streaming rivers of bullshit into the gutters of the people's ears, bemused LIbyans turned on their televisions on a Sunday night and saw nothing. An empty chair rotated to the side as if someone had just turned and left sat in the back. A champagne glass sat forlorn and abandoned on a doily. A teacup, apparently still half-full, waited for a refill that would never arrive. A framed picture of someone sat on the desk in front of a backdrop of the Tripoli skyline. I don't know who that is, but it doesn't matter. Their symbolism, their place in a system of meaning is now a vapor evaporated into the atmosphere of history.
None of this matters now. The man or woman in the desk is gone. They will not be returning anytime soon. Outside there are men roaming the streets. No one's wondering who's in charge, and that's why the doors are locked, and the children inside quivering. When the desk is empty, it means anarchy is at your door. There are no permissions or courtesies. Shit just happens, and it happens all the time, and there's no stopping it until everything you have is gone and bouncing out the door on the shoulders of thieves.
God, or anyone like him, is away on business.
Ship is sinking
The ship is sinking
The ship is sinking
There's a leak, there's a leak in the boiler room
The poor, the lame, the blind
Who are the ones that we kept in charge?
Killers, thieves and lawyers
This, like most things, happened by accident. If college football were a business, we would be the Bluth Family Banana Stand. The humble banana stand, perched on the scenic pier, selling harmless frozen bananas to the happy, sunkissed masses for a quarter. Then one day the banana stand grew a cornballing business, and a real estate office, and a hedge fund, and a motivational speaking tape and accompanying book. It still claims the small business exemption on its taxes. It hides millions of dollars beneath the bricks of frozen fudge dip.
It is anything but a banana stand, but that's what it says on the taxes.
People like to say this is a fraud. They like to say it a lot. It's easy, because there is a fine, solid skein of truth to it. The world is filled with misdirected companies, banana stands that took a wrong turn, countries demarcated with borders drawn by tipsy colonials thousands of miles away. The entire state of Florida is a real estate scam no one ever bothered to stop. Georgia was and possibly still is a debtor's colony. The United States' largest and most populous state sits between wildfires and a fault line capable of cracking the state's inhabitable land into its own island in a matter of hours. Large tracts of the Western United States came from Mexico's attic. We hope they don't want it back any time soon.
There are people--con artists, visionaries, frauds, hucksters, geniuses, the mad, the clueless and monied--who leave in their wake elaborate, ambitious fakes. You call the aftermath "home," or your town, or your nation. A large chunk of your experience as a person involves elements created with the worst of intentions: fraud, the peculiar delusions of power, or desperate tax evasion writ large on the landscape in the form of homes, shops, and a long flight from the responsibilities of abandoned lives.
Sometimes they leave you with a state. Sometimes they leave you with a sport.
Digging up the dead with a shovel and a pick
It's a job, it's a job
Bloody moon rising with a plague and a flood
Join the mob, join the mob
Florida. Tennessee. South Carolina. Georgia. The states changed but the houses never did: new, empty houses with unsodded yards and spotted with buckets of paint and spackle. We played in them as children, crawling up new plywood stairs without railings, walking through fiberglass insulation in unfinished walls that left subtle scarlet irritations blooming on the skin. They sat on roads with names saluting fantastical geographies. In one of the subdivisions we lived in had at least three roads titled "Something ridge." The highest point in the subdivision could not have been higher than 50 feet above sea level, and nothing so much as resembled a ridge.
They were fake. Developers imagined them. Builders took the curlicued weavings of road and lots on plans and graded them into existence, pouring concrete flats where orange groves or cattle pastures once stood. They all smelled like drywall, freshly hung drywall shedding motes of powdered gypsum into the air.
They aged poorly. In Georgia, the red clay stained the foundations. In Florida the exteriors grew mold like bread left in a petri dish. Water stains rippled in eccentric brown patterns through the ceiling after heavy rains. The yards became patchwork jungles after the first layer of sod died and the locals moved back in, salting the green with barbed seed pods and lurking hives of yellow jackets.
These places were fabricated, ersatz, unreal. Their roads and names were meaningless, parking places for cars and people surrounding factories, buildings, offices, and schools spilled across unincorporated land like the unwound wiring of a deconstructed motherboard. It was fraud, too. It is where I lived, and slept, and snuck from house to house as a teenager, and threw bricks through windows of homes no one owned when boredom required petty violence. No one would stay here. No one ever did.
Like millions of others, we went where money's currents floated us. Those winds usually died somewhere at the end of a cul-de-sac, in a neighborhood built on nothing and sustained by attachment to a major road. There's one of these in Franklin, Tennessee that I drove past once. It is named Spencer Hall: an expensive, fictional nothing filled with homes sitting on streets named for things that never existed.
Places like this are where I lived, and loved, and slept ignorant sleep without dreams for 18 years of my life.
It's all over, it's all over
It's all over
One of those houses was our first in Florida. It was the house where I stepped out in the backyard and discovered that walking barefoot in Florida was a very bad idea. It was the house where we waited out the remnants of Hurricane Andrew. We slept in the living room with the television on all night. Around two in the morning the weathermen all ducked under their desks, still talking into their mikes and trembling as they read phonetic Spanish off of a script with a flashlight.
We had no idea what we had moved into, and still don't. I do remember being stunned when eating at a classmate's house for the first time when they used utensils to eat fried chicken. There was no weather, only rain, heat, and less of both. Everyone was either very old or very young. They were all from Long Island. They all thought we had accents despite being the ones who stretched the phrase "Oh My God" into an eight syllable phrase.
We bunkered. I never, at any point, felt more a part of my family than when we had just moved to Florida, mostly because none of us--my father, my sister, my brother, or my mother--knew what we were doing. We all hung out at home. We played boardgames like quaint families of the '50s. We swam in a strange pool someone had just left in our backyard. At Christmas we ate outside on the porch because we could, staring at the sun flashing off the water and watching lizards skitter across the Chattahoochee pebble porch.
The last orange trees from the groves leveled for the trees stood in the backyard, dropping fruit on the ground that only the birds ate.
That January, while waiting for a winter that never came, I watched the 1993 Sugar Bowl with my whole family in the room. It might be the last time I can remember us all sitting down to watch a football game together, all in the same place. Lamar Thomas ran a perfect nine route deep out of Miami territory. Keith Jackson clearly mentions the penalty flag early in the call, but Lamar Thomas did not have an in-form KJ in his ear telling him that this play was pretend, fake, ersatz, done before it ever started. He kept running.
George Teague kept running, too. He didn't know none of this counted, either.
It is still the single most breathtaking play I have ever seen not because of the raw athleticism, but because it was never over for George Teague. To hell with the flags, or the angles, or the score: if Lamar Thomas were streaking toward an endzone a thousand miles away, guided toward it only by the sun, the stars, and a compass in his soul pointing towards the goal line, George Teague would have found him and stolen the ball and run the other way until he died exhausted and alone.
It happened on a down that appears in no stat line, no sheet of formal records. The turf is Astroturf, the game a glorified exhibition put on by a corporation hiding under the guise of a non-profit, involving players likely violating the rules of amateurism, beaming through satellites to flicker on the television of a fake house in a fake neighborhood in a fake state to a family in the last stages of living under the same roof. And yet it still stops my heart when I watch it. George Teague doesn't give a shit what down it is. He gets the ball, or he dies.
Godddamn there's always such a big temptation
To be good, to be good
There's always free cheddar in a mousetrap, baby
It's a deal, it's a deal
There is no one in charge in college football. There likely never will be. One lie leading to another forms the bridge the present takes to the future, and your steps don't lie: it feels as solid as truth, and holds up for far longer in some cases.
The editing matters so much here. You can say the sport is rife with filth, and you would be right. The negligent policemen of the sport strike intermittently at thieves. One side makes up the law as they go while the other politiely ignores it. Bowl games grease the palms of venal public officials. Television networks buy off longtime allies and reconstruct the map as they fit, as drunken in their excesses as the mustachioed cartographers of any careless empire. Players steal what they can when they can. Coaches do the same, but to much greater effect.
We know this. This is not news. Please stop acting like it is. That's very ingenious that in the bombed-out church of football, you have figured out that there is no God, and someone is running out the door with the coffers. The only intrigue is in the variation, not in the repeated exaggerated reminders that this is a sport of charlatans, sweathouse labor conditions, and a thousand dodges behind the shield of amateurism.
You can also give us other news to use if you're into creative editing. You will enter into a one-way contract upon birth. All goods are temporary, and your most personal property, you, will stop functioning completely without warning or refund. Your employer, despite what you believe, does not care about you, and is only interested in the capital you can help them accrue. Your home is a house, and is a good. Your organs can be sold for a certain dollar amount on the open market. The people in charge of the imaginary territory that someone made up to fill with saleable goods are, by all accounts, unqualified for their jobs and very much do not have your best interests at heart. Your wife or husband is under a chemical delusion that ends in six months, and likely continues for the convenience it provides in raising children.
There is always free cheddar in the mousetrap, and it is always a deal.
In this edit, Pinocchio is a story about bad firewood that ends with the whale, and George Teague's play didn't matter because it was cancelled by a penalty.
There is another edit. The one between naivete and cynicism. It is a delicate one. You will first have to accept that this breaks your heart. You will have to accept that this is in some part a scam. You will have to accept that you are bad firewood walking: wooden, a puppet guided by strings pulling you in directions you can't always understand or accept. You'll have to accept, in one form or another, that God's away on business, and you will have to take care of this yourself no matter how long you have to run. You have to accept that the only redemption for the large, cheap machinations of life is the redemption of experience, the only thing you can control.
You will have to accept that any fraud can be redeemed with work, and the long determination to get things right. I don't know what the future of college football is. It could be gone in two decades, shorn off from universities completely when a court decides that yes, everything you're doing is bullshit, and unlike a thousand other obvious deceptions we will publicly declare yours to be what it is. It could be very much as it is. It could be played by trained Corgis fetching a ball in team colors. I don't know, and you don't know, and that's the only definite in all this: the unknown.
I hope, like a thousand other fantasies making up my life, that the experience validates the unfeeling, sterile framework of things. I hope that I get that feeling of being slightly less wooden, of being something closer to being a real boy, that I got watching George Teague chase down the devil in New Orleans. I have this option, or I have cynicism. So do you. It is a choice you make every day, and it is the only one that matters.
The horizon is always hungry for daylight, and takes it ray by ray. Run one way or the other. Stay still and your choice is made for you anyway.
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Snooki getting punched, now in GIF form!

His name was Nick Bloomfield.
by The Commenter Formerly Known as Not You on Sep 1, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 18 recs
I was just about to post this
Whenever i’m feeling blue I take a look at this and laugh.
Seriously, fuck everybody on that show
Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die. - Mel Brooks
by Rapeablyfresh on Sep 1, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
So sorry, bro. Even if it is Snooki, hittin' girls is poor form.
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by MtnEer_in_SC on Sep 1, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
We treat our furry friends with the dignity and repect they so deservedly command.
by Dr. Norris Camacho on Sep 1, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Occasionally some flowers, too.
Apparently they are delicious.
by Dr. Norris Camacho on Sep 1, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Hitting women is poor form
So, hitting Snooki is fine
1950 NCAA Co-National Champions
by Old South on Sep 1, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I believe my sentiment on the matter can be summed up thusly:
I never would have punched her, but I don’t think I would have stopped him from doing it, either…
His name was Nick Bloomfield.
by The Commenter Formerly Known as Not You on Sep 1, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
So you gotta look at OJ's situation
He’s paying $25,000 a month in alimony, got a another man driving around in his car and fucking his wife in a house he’s still paying the mortgage on. Now I’m not saying he should have killed her… but I understand.
Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die. - Mel Brooks
by Rapeablyfresh on Sep 1, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
KSK requested this a couple of years ago...

An Equal Opportunity Offender
by LSUfreek on Sep 1, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
HEY! That's my fantasy QB!!
/goddamnedautodraft
by Uncle Earmuffs on Sep 1, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
mine, too
yet i have no excuse. grabbed stafford, too, so he might start a few weeks too if he can keep the crystal shoulder healthy.
"I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Hey! How did Von Kaiser end up as the Giants' starting QB?
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
I will never get tired of her taking that punch.
by Durdens Wrath on Sep 1, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
She probably ovulated when he hit her
did she slip him her number afterwards?
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
No woman deserve that treatment
But I have yet to see any evidence to say that it is a woman
Tottenham Hotspurs, Penn State, and Winthrop are the only things that made me cry in my adult life.
by Tottenham Makes Me Cry on Sep 1, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I am having a colossal clusterfuck of a day
Yet that Snooki TKO just made me laugh out loud…+eleventy cocktails for posting that!
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Okay, Dennis Erickson - don't screw this up!!
Also, this is fan-fucking-tastic writing.
by RenegadeRev on Sep 1, 2011 1:40 PM EDT reply actions 12 recs
Agreed.
TL;DR: Scroll your shit up and read this, you lazy asshole.
Besides, anything framed within Tom Waits lyrics is worth your time.
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by Gamecock'n'Balls on Sep 1, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Great writing! It was great
/sprints to post Snooki image one minute after post goes up
by Panamahuh on Sep 1, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I cannot for the life of me
understand why it took so long to have this stated Rev…
and who the hell is Snookie anyway….
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
Would that make this the NCAA?

by Dr. Norris Camacho on Sep 1, 2011 1:40 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
They're laughing, Michael!
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by Gamecock'n'Balls on Sep 1, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's be honest everyone
How many of you started tearing up reading this?
by 49er16 on Sep 1, 2011 1:44 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
you read it?
or just assume it would be sad.
I'm not going to a country that confuses itself with poultry. Never.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Sep 1, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
/raises hand
George Teague doesn’t give a shit what down it is. He gets the ball, or he dies.
Also, as hyperbolic as it sounds, the last four paragraphs are the sportswriting equal to Don Draper’s “The Wheel” pitch.
Well. Fucking. Done.
by Gator Cub on Sep 1, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
This was the same line that got me.
To me, that’s what college football is all about. When that first whistle blows, all the off-the-field bullshit disappears into an on-the-field wonderland where nothing else matters. It’s escapism at its finest.
What can I say, I have a dusty office
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Yes.
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No greater love, no sweeter sin, than red hot brass and ice cold gin.
by LoneStarHoosier on Sep 1, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Tears of Raeg?
We carried you in our arms on Independence Day
But now you’d throw us all aside and put us all away
What dear daughter ’neath the sun could love a father so
To wait upon him hand and foot and always tell him no?
Tears of rage, tears of grief
Why must I always be the thief?
Come to me now, you know we’re so low
And life is brief
It was all so very painless for you to run and receive
All of that false instruction we never could believe.
And now the heart is filled with gold as if it was a purse
Oh, but what kind of love is this that goes from bad to worse?
Tears of rage, tears of grief
Why must I always be the thief?
Come to me now, you know we’re so low
And life is brief
We pointed you the way to go and scratched your name in sand
But you thought it was nothing more than a place for you to stand
I want you to know that while we watched, you discovered no one would be true
And I myself was among the ones who thought
it was just a childish thing to do.
Tears of rage, tears of grief
Why must I always be the thief?
Come to me now, you know we’re so low
And life is brief
Shut Up! I must have my EDSBS and my bourbons!!
by Eddie Teach on Sep 1, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Ditto, esp. since it's Danko
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by TheDutchWonder on Sep 1, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
rec for The Band always
It Makes No Difference
by Lucas Jackson on Sep 1, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
It sort of pissed me off, actually.
But I understand completely why this post was written this way, and why it is appropriate for the times.
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Certainly has something to it.
Very well, written. Would not expect anything less from Fearless Leader.
There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you.
- Woody Hayes
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by Culp's Freaking Hill on Sep 1, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
This is spectacular
College football is back, everyone
VPI&SU? Vippie Sue? What the hell is that?
Holy shit
VPI&SU? Vippie Sue? What the hell is that?
Titles man, titles
rec’d so hard though
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Do not question him.
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by Holly Anderson on Sep 1, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 29 recs
mmmm

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"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
by Londonjoe on Sep 1, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
All Hail Queen Stabby!
Is this the anti-spider?
Play Rugby - No helmets, no pads. Just balls.
by bronconationeast on Sep 1, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I figure bunnies fix pretty much anything.
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"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
YAIS
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
T'AINT NOBODY EXEMPT FROM AL RULES.

RULE #1: GO OUT THERE AND GET TAKEN TO THE WOODSHED LIKE A COTDAMN MAN.
I love green because money be green.
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Twittin
by Joey C. on Sep 1, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm still waiting for frames to load and all I see is ass
and I’m already fucking terrified.
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Freek I don't mean to belittle this work
but TITLES BRO I’M GONNA GET FIRED
by broski on Sep 1, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
not that they care where I work. but the perception that I do work is important
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Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
REC REC REC
Seriously, man. I celebrate your entire catalog, but I gotta be able to pay for the Internets to do it.
That Hokie freshman in the Greensboro Coliseum rafters didn't see any of this coming.
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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by She Blinded Me With Violence on Sep 1, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
At first I was like...
geez Nick, again?
and then I was like,
LSUfreek?
and then I was like
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
by Gord the Rogue on Sep 1, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
SO I GET THE GEEZ TREATMENT HUH?
Guess that teaches me for posting Christina Hendricks gifs
by Nick Petrilli on Sep 1, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
no see that's the joke
posting her majesty: appropriate
re-posting her majesty: appropriate
re-re-posting her majesty: aw that’d just be farming
by Gord the Rogue on Sep 1, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
LSUfreek, you magnificant basterd!
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by MtnEer_in_SC on Sep 1, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Patton Autorec
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
oooohhhhh, that could be interesting.
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Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Indeed.
Eisenhower and Washington have the first two spots on lockdown. Let the bickering about the third spot commence.
Will engineer for food and loan payments.
by purwho on Sep 1, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
General Specific
from Sheep in the Big City!
by broski on Sep 1, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
not Grant?
Eisenhower was a good logistical mind. Washington was solidly Fabian.
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Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
For everything Ike put up with having to run the Allies
he’s in a different stratosphere. I think you’d have to have different categories.
進者往生極楽 退者無間地獄
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
The difference between General Manager and Offensive coordinator, basically
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"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Tactical vs. Strategic?
Because Eisenhower and Patton would be at the top of their respective sides for me.
by Nick Petrilli on Sep 1, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
other way around.... but ok, maybe.
tactically? I posit Mad Anthony Wayne
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"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Eisenhower=Strategic, Patton=Tactical
I didn’t pay attention to their ordering in that sentence.
And Patton is definitely #1 for tactical.
by Nick Petrilli on Sep 1, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
“Whoa, that’s a lot of Indians” – G. Gorge Armstrong Custer
Probably
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Sep 1, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, if we wanted to get pedantic
Patton would fall under “Operational”, not tactical.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ok, I have never heard of operational
Explain that part and how it is separated from tactics for the layman please.
by Nick Petrilli on Sep 1, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Simple answer, not the one for my thesis project:
There are 3 levels of warfare. Tactical is Division level and below, the act of engaging and destroying the enemy. Strategic is planning and executing national level policy. Operational is the bridge that relates blowing things up to accomplishing national goals. Example:
Ike takes national/allied goal of “BEAT GERMANY” and develops plan incorporating everything and everyone, including keeping the Brits happy: Strategic
Patton takes 3rd Army and given goal “Race across France in order to cut off Germans”, does it: Operational
Brigade Commander in 1st Armored Division is given goal “Take town of X to secure bridge crossings over Y river in order to allow 3rd Army to continue across France” and does it: Tactical.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Keeping Monty happy is a full time job
what an asshole
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"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Agreed 100%
Dude made cred for stopping Rommel in Africa, but all that took was someone who didn’t have his head up his ass, because Rommel was patching tanks together with bubble gum and simply took initiative against imbeciles. Sicily tells us all we needed to know about Monty. Unfortunately we found out a lot more.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
all the Germans escaping through the falais gap say hi
by ClaypidgeonCoug on Sep 1, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
BUT BUT BUT I REALLY NEED THAT GASOLINE
TO TAKE THIS COASTAL CITY I’VE HAD SURROUNDED FOR A MONTH YOU CAN’T POSSIBLY GIVE IT TO PATTON HE’LL WASTE IT TAKING HALF OF FRANCE
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't worry.
Jimmy Carter surrendered the Panama Canal without a shot. Can’t get worse than that.
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HOW FUCKING FASCINATING!
WHY DON’T YOU COME CLOSER AND TELL US, HOLLY, AND SPENCER MORE?
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by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
note

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lolwut
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by thechuck_2112 on Sep 1, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Great moments in empire planning:
England deciding they only want Hong Kong until 1997-1998 because there’s no way the world will still be around by then.
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One of my favorites quotes ever about Monty...
After the utter failure of Market Garden, Montgomery continue to laud his plan and claimed that had he been given the assets he needed… more troops, aircraft, supplies etc. that his plan would have succeeded, which resulted in Bernhard, the Prince of the Netherlands to remark:
“My country can never again afford the luxury of another Montgomery success”
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Thanks. It's a concept I have had to explain numerous times
the misuse of the terms is a pet peeve of mine, and comes up fairly often on the Japanese history site I mod.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
this west pointer
salutes you. one correction: Tactical is on the Platoon Leader and Company Command level. Operational runs from BDE all the way to Battalion. Tactical strictly means the literal on the ground maneuvering to accomplish the mission, usually led by Lieutenants and Captains (the leaders who actually win wars).
Also Jackson was a hell of a tactical mind as well
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Grant's success
was in being the first Union general to get that he had threeve men to use, he might as well fucking use them. That was apparently a difficult concept for his predecessors, but it doesn’t make him a genius.
That Hokie freshman in the Greensboro Coliseum rafters didn't see any of this coming.
hit em and then hit em again and if they pop their heads up hit em again.
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Grant
But maybe it does. Grant recognized his advantages and took them.
Even early, when he was out west, he had a clarity of thought and purpose that was lacking in Northern generals (and 99% of humanity). To do so in the fog of war and the confusion of the day was no easy task.
Not saying he’s #3, but he’s up there.
And doing it while half in the bag, kudos.
I’ll mangle the Lincoln quote here, told by some IG or other that Grant was drowning in whisky, he responds with something to the effect of “Find out what brand he drinks and send a barrel to the rest of my generals”
by T-Jax, Field General on Sep 1, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh...
Grant was nothing special in the pantheon of American Generals. He’s called “the butcher” for a reason. Superior population numbers in the North (along with thousands of immigrants, hello Irish Brigade) meant a war of attrition was the only way to win. Grant never outgeneraled Bobby Lee.
McClellan was too busy trying to get elected to be worth a damn.
by Albino Tornado on Sep 1, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it was Stanton that said...
If McClellan had 10,000 then he would swear the enemy had 20,000.
If McClellan had 500,000 then he would swear the enemy had 1,000,000.
Numbers may be off, but you get the idea. McClellan was a turd of a field general, but he did get the AotP trained and ready for war.
/pulls pin
//tosses SHERMAN grenade
///watches Georgians scatter
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
hah, if you meant CHINESE generals, you'd be on point
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I will always have a place in my heart for Matthew Ridgeway.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
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by Blackheartnopants on Sep 1, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Better things than his predecessor said about his boss!
hey-o!
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll just leave this here.

@#$% Pancho Villa.
Play Rugby - No helmets, no pads. Just balls.
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From tigerdroppings

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by LSUfreek on Sep 1, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
general lee intercepted
"I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
General Lee invades Pennsylvania
is intercepted by Grant, interception is returned to Richmond.
by Lucas Jackson on Sep 1, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ehh, Eisenhower is a bit overrated.
Washington, Patton, Sherman/Grant.
One from each era.
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Go Gators!
You, sir, have never worked in an international military coalition.
Eisenhower is not overrated. He quite possibly could be underrated, as strange as that may seem.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree on Sherman and Grant
anyone can win with major industrial power behind them. Nimitz was awesome in the pacific during WWII.
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by Anon_the_younger on Sep 1, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
"anyone can win with major industrial power behind them"
Actually, not anyone could. Otherwise McClellan or Hooker would have been the heroes of the war, not Grant.
/waits for Craig James joke
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not saying they should or shouldn't be top 3 or 5 or whatever
but it’s easy for people to throw out “well they should have won they have more stuff”, but actually doing it isn’t as easy as you would think. Logistics is critical and will cause even the best to fail if they don’t pay attention to it. Ask Napoleon.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed.
But I think Nimitz had a much tougher situation with logistics than Grant did. And I would count Nimitz as a general since he had the USMC working for him.
Have you seen this poster: link
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by Anon_the_younger on Sep 1, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I have. It's a standard of military analysis.
Assuredly, Nimitz did wonderful things. But you could also make the same case that he had more industrial might behind him than his opponent, and it was only a matter of time. That argument is a disservice to both Grant and Nimitz, IMO.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
yes and no
Nimitz had lots of resources, but one of the books I read on Marshall mentioned the critical state the US economy was approaching towards the end (can’t give specific dates).
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by Anon_the_younger on Sep 1, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Not nearly as critical as the opponent's, though.
My point is that saying that about either of them is an oversimplification and isn’t giving them their due. They both did great things, and just because they effectively used what they had doesn’t mean those accomplishments are any less.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
true
but then losing should not count you out as a great General, either.
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by Anon_the_younger on Sep 1, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
So do Rommel, Paulus, Guderian, and Yamamoto.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
SERTORIUS!
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Second Sertorius reference in two days
Can haz first government deriving power from the general populous?
Pompey: LOL, no.
he was my chief takeaway from Plutarch's Paralell Lives
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Eumenes
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I'd add Jackson.
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by Anon_the_younger on Sep 1, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Thomas J's "foot cavalry" were a testament....
to what proper motivation of your troops could achieve.
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Lee and Hannibal nod in approval.
"They wouldn't be heroes if they were infallible, in fact they wouldn't be heroes if they weren't miserable wretched dogs, the pariahs of the earth, besides which the only reason to build up an idol is to tear it down again."
As great as Hannibal was, he was effectively deterred by Fabius and outright whammered by Scipio
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but but but ELEPHANTS!
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
like this one?

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by Anon_the_younger on Sep 1, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Flagged
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by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
What is the reaction of bama fans to this image Alex

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by Irishjugg on Sep 1, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The tactical advantage of elephants is rendered useless when they freeze to death.
Hannibal wasn’t whammered by anyone in Rome. The Romans couldn’t beat him. The Romans could beat the other Carthaginians, which is what led to Hannibal never having any reinforcements sent to the Italian peninsula.
Imus Hibernii Pugnaces!
by Neodymium on Sep 1, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And then carrying that hatred to the grave?
Someone knows how to finish the drill.
Imus Hibernii Pugnaces!
In fairness the Romans eventually learned how to finish
Plow the soil with salt.
Carthago delenda est.
Not having to worry about Hannibal in their backyard helped.
But, yeah, no one did genocide quite like the Romans.
Is it getting dusty in here?
Imus Hibernii Pugnaces!
The French picked up on that
pour encourager les autres, and all that.
by Albino Tornado on Sep 2, 2011 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I'M NUMBER THREE
’Cause what other general has a cool gif made from the movie about him?"

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by An 'eer with a beer on Sep 1, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
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In large part because Scipio was the first guy
To understand how to handle the war elephants. It’d be like the first time someone showed up to a battle with full plate armor.
except Nimitz island hopping campaign
was asinine and a waste of personnel and resources. The bulk of the Japanese Army was in China and New Guinea, where the ARMY fought and defeated them. Just ask MacArthur, who said the plan was a fool’s errand and unnecessary. Oh, island hop and bomb wasting brigades on entrenched battalions…or how about take China and link up with Chiang Kai Shek’s forces and go the easy way?
This is why I think you have to have lists for different categories.
What Ike had to deal with was completely different than Lee, or Grant, or Washington, or even Schwartzkopf or Petraeus.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
For Nelson and Halsey and Nimitz and so forth don’t really compare well either.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
THIS. A THOUSAND TIMES, THIS
I just spent 7 months on a NATO mission that included non-NATO countries. Y’all just don’t understand.
Chairman of the Frivolous And Wasteful Committee On Avocado Peels (FAWCOAP).
by AUTigerGSUEagle on Sep 1, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Omar Bradley and Winfield Scott
Winfield Scott’s victory in the Mexican American War was FLAWLESS. Just ask Jeff Davis, Bobby Lee, etc.
Omar Bradley is one of the country’s best generals as well. Too many to name in WWII, anyway.
It's have to be MacArthur.
He won the Medal of Honor and was a General. His DAD won the Medal of Honor and was a General (I believe that surpasses any sports bloodline). It would be like if Kirk Herbstreit won the Heisman and NC at Ohio State while being the captain and his dad did the same thing.
Also, MacArthur says this: “They died hard, those savage men – like wounded wolves at bay. They were filthy, and they were lousy, and they stunk. And I loved them.”
“There is no substitute for Victory” – also Big Mac
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Look, I'm an Army guy
and I think Mac got hosed over Korea, but
A. his dad has nothing to do with it and
B. he wasted resources in the Pacific. The Pacific was Nimitz’s victory.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
C'mon.
Nimitz didn’t get off a landing craft and wade ashore at Leyte with a corncob pipe stuffed in his face.
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
Playing in the surf for a political statement did nothing to end Japan's ability to resist.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that was more meant to inspire our troops than to put fear in theirs.
But fine. I nominate “Fat Man” and “Little Boy” as the greatest generals of all time.
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Sigh
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
did someone say fatman?

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by Anon_the_younger on Sep 1, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
If by "end Japan's ability to resist"
you meant “give General MacArthur’s ego a massive hardon,” then I believe it did something.
Massive is modifying the wrong word in that sentence.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Of all the days to miss an argument
By taking the daughter to the dentist with no interwebs.
OK, unpopular but here it is:
Washington was NOT a good general – at least if generalship is defined as skillful management of troops, opportunity and logistics for the conduct of war. He was effective as a leader, but not as a general. Losing EVERY battle, even when you have the advantage is not good generalship. Who was the best at the time? Arnold, until he got pissed off.
Neither was Eisenhower a great battle general. He was very good as a supreme commander, but was not the same roll as a Patton, Rommel, Manstein or Guderian. He never lead troops to battle at ANY level (missed WWI entirely) and was little more than a bright field-grade officer who was chosen as a second pick for SHAEF (Marshall’s first pick was Stillwell – who was the best man for the job, but he was sent to play nursemaid and butler to Chaing Kai-Shek by the politicos).
MacArthur was. Yeah, he had an ego, but if a big ego is a disqualification for general officer, we’d have damn few available for the job. The man could plan and fight. His Pacific campaign was brilliant and went the equivalent distance from Brazil to Alaska over air land and sea as a ‘Second Front’ in the Pacific.
Patton was. His 90 degree turn in a mid December blizzard of two corps is THE most masterful stroke of genius in the entire American Army’s history. Bar none.
Grant’s ability – If you need a better judge of him than his chief opponent (Lee) and immediate subordinate (Sherman, no slouch himself), then I don’t know if you’ll ever believe me. His Vicksburg campaign once he was on the correct side of the Miss. river is a masterpiece equal to anything that either Stonewall or Lee cooked up in the East. He cut his supply lines, and moved faster, hit harder and drove the Rebels nuts trying to catch him. Then he sealed the fate of the Confederacy by taking Vicksburg, with fewer casualties than any other campaign North or South in the entire war. Don’t simply judge him by the Wilderness Campaign.
Whew. Had to get that off my chest.
That and his message to Lincoln after taking Vicksburg
The man occasionally had a way with words.
by T-Jax, Field General on Sep 1, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely
Crisp, clear, no ambiguity and very insightful into his method of war. Self effacing almost to a fault, he describes each situation and solution without a slight on any other officer (save one – a single snide remark about the commander at Fort Donelson) and no embellishment or excuses.
Best book on the war by any commander.
Aren't many better books by any commander, are there?
(By participants, yes, but by commanders?)
I choose to remain largely ignorant of his presidency. It would be demeaning to learn more.
Only a few
1. " Attacks" and “The Rommel Papers”* – (the latter collected by Liddel-Hart with permission by his family)
2. Lost Battles – Manstein
3. Memoirs – Mannerheim (personal bias – I’m half Finnish)
*Even if Rommel never won a battle in his life, he works would sit atop the pile of books by prior commanders. The penultimate memoir of a commander with as clear a picture of what he saw and how to command. The first are is a junior officer and company commander in the first world war, the other from division, corps to army command in the second world. There is no equal, and likely will never be.
We are fortunate that Hitler considered himself a military strategist
Germany had so many brilliant commanders. Good thing many of them weren’t Nazis, and therefore were drummed out, given peripheral commands, and/or shot.
If your read Halberstam's book, The Coldest Winter
I’m not sure you can say that MacArthur got hosed. Many of his problems were self inflicted.
"If you find yourself alone, riding in green fields with the sun on your face, do not be troubled. For you are in Elysium and you are already dead!" - General Maximus, Commander of the Felix Legions
I've read "American Caesar".
MacArthur (or, maybe his brain-mouth delay switch) was his own worst enemy. But aren’t a lot of great military men, like Col. Beckwith, in the same boat?
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
Definitely...
But one thing Coldest Winter really drove home was that in Korea, MacArthur deliberately ignored and cooked intelligence about the Chinese build-up at the Yalu River. Didn’t fit his world view so it was ignored. Much like Monty before Market Garden, when the Dutch underground was reporting that the 9th and 10th SS Panzer were in the area. Those reports were thrown away as to not deter from Monty’s glory.
"If you find yourself alone, riding in green fields with the sun on your face, do not be troubled. For you are in Elysium and you are already dead!" - General Maximus, Commander of the Felix Legions
Are you saying we have to pay attention to "facts" that don't match our worldview?
/recognizes spidery nature of this comment
No,
I’m just saying that there is a lot of evidence that intelligence of the massive Chinese build up was ignored because it didn’t fit MacArthur’s plans for glory in Korea.
"If you find yourself alone, riding in green fields with the sun on your face, do not be troubled. For you are in Elysium and you are already dead!" - General Maximus, Commander of the Felix Legions
Uh, I'm agreeing with you, Sir
(You’re criticizing MacArthur for ignoring intelligence of Chinese buildup, right?)
Correct.
Sorry, misunderstood your comment
/tears up intelligence reports of Chinese build-up near the Rose Bowl.
"If you find yourself alone, riding in green fields with the sun on your face, do not be troubled. For you are in Elysium and you are already dead!" - General Maximus, Commander of the Felix Legions
UCLA fan? If your “Rose Bowl” comment is a reference to Michigan-UCLA in 2000, then I tell you I was at that game and sweated about 25 pounds out.
Also, go fuck yourself. WHY CAN WE NOT WIN GAMES AT THE ROSE BOWL?
Not a reference to the 2000 Michigan/UCLA game
Although I was there too and it was a scorcher.
More of a reference to our home field before this season and what awaits the Bruins. But now I’m getting reports that it’s a build up of Chinese food trucks.
Damn the Torpedoes! Full speed ahead.
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Well good luck this year. Or bad luck. Whichever is best for the program—i.e. whatever gets Neuheisel fired.
by Goblue98 on Sep 1, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hackworth is his name
And he did write a book. But the judgement of him as a ‘great military man’ is from a single voice; his own. Hackworth was many things, but self-effacing, objective and accurate weren’t among them.
Well, he pulled a McChrystal before a McChrystal was a thing
so “hosed” is probably the wrong word. But did have great success at Inchon and moving north. He didn’t understand the limitations of the new world, sadly.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Typical lubbers.... What about thses great men?

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Chesty gets a rec
even from this dogface.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably inappropriate at this juncture but a great movie

I used to be a heroin addict. Now I'm a methadone addict.
by Tigerbiglikebull on Sep 1, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I meant solidly land lubbers. whoever designed the USN's sub warfare strategy gets it for me.
along with John Paul and FArragut
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Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
yeah, great
except if you want to own ground, from roman times to now, you have to put boots on it. the navy is operationally a combat support branch. case closed.
One of my favorites...
General John Buford, unsung hero of Gettysburg.
"If you find yourself alone, riding in green fields with the sun on your face, do not be troubled. For you are in Elysium and you are already dead!" - General Maximus, Commander of the Felix Legions
by BillyZoom on Sep 1, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Cav rec
Also, rec for Sam Eliot.
進者往生極楽 退者無間地獄
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U. Hawaii Warrior because the government pays my grad school tuition
The Japanese History Podcast
This week: Not such a fan of bovine creatures
by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
General Bartford Hamilon Steele
/thus endeth the “my general is better than your general” contest
Yo, don't say nuthin'. I guess I'm just a freak.
Never wanted to
Until just now
follow us @rubrchickens
by rubrchickens on Sep 1, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So now I know why she was leaned over the table
In order to snort that big honkin’ line, AMIRITE?
"Disco?" He shakes his head. "What a dark time for our country."
by Burrito Electrico on Sep 1, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh my.
Do you realize what you’ve done….
There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you.
- Woody Hayes
Twitter: NormConquest
by Culp's Freaking Hill on Sep 1, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
what is this i dont even
"When I get the ball, I think about touchdowns; when I think about touchdowns, I think about money." - Onterrio McCalebb
by alexanderkotov on Sep 1, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
footbaw
Pay no mind to the man behind the curtain
by entirely reasonable on Sep 1, 2011 1:48 PM EDT reply actions
Tom is badass.
Love him or hate him, he is original.
Would love to see him live.
by Black Prairie Bullpuppies on Sep 1, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw him in Asheville NC
in 2006 or so, I drove from Harrisonburg, VA to Asheville NC to see him by myself (cuz no one else wanted to go with me). It was hands down the best show I’ve ever seen, and one of the best weekends of my life.
drinkin' fast and talkin' slow
His car's pretty sweet too.

Play Rugby - No helmets, no pads. Just balls.
by bronconationeast on Sep 1, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Mystery Men Autorec
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.
/sobeautiful
/drinksheavily
So poignant. So true. So disturbed. So…FOOTBALL!

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by bronconationeast on Sep 1, 2011 1:50 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
That movie had a lot of baaaawwww moments fo me.
by RjTheMetalhead on Sep 1, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep, for me too.
There are a number of mechanical devices which increase sexual arousal, particularly in women.
Chief among these is the Mercedes-Benz 380SL convertible. ~ P. J. O'Rourke
Unashamedly cried like a skin-kneed 9 year old.
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 1, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
this
and they get you in the first 15 minutes, too
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk. Then we shall find, and beat the asses of, the nonbelievers who ruined my feast.
– Alvis
Alvis bless us, everyone!!
Which is even more impressive than what Toy Story 3 did.
Up took characters they’d just introduced you to 5 minutes ago, and took an economical 4 minutes to turn every single person in the theater into a blubbering mess. A completely-earned, in-no-way-cheap blubbering mess. That is storytelling.
Toy Story 3 is overrated.
How to Train Your Dragon was better.
Up was even better.
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by SPORTSGEEK42 on Sep 1, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Dragon > TS3
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 1, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Both are really good.
But in the last 20 minutes, Toy Story 3 takes a leap that very few other movies—in any genre—have managed to take.
I will say this
Circumstances may have colored my viewing.
[spolier] When Andy is driving to college, my 5-year old delivered a perfectly timed "Why is he in the car all alone?[/spoiler]
ALL. THE. TEARS.
Nick Bloomfield: EDSBS Hero.
Ouch. Yea...ummm....good luck with that..
/finds tissue
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 1, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that could do it.
That said, I never really liked the Toy Story movies…
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WHA?

I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
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by Pain in the Sash on Sep 1, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rephrase: Good, not great.
They are the Emmitt Smith of animated movies.
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But,
Emmitt Smith is the all time leading rusher in the NFL, with two Super Bowl rings.
What exactly is “great” then?
by Durdens Wrath on Sep 1, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Fat kickers.
Do. Not. Eff. This. Up.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Sep 1, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Jim Brown. Barry Sanders. Walter Payton.
In that order.
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by SPORTSGEEK42 on Sep 1, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sweetness I'll give you.
Sanders was a quitter.
by Durdens Wrath on Sep 1, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Believe me, I know.
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Lions fan eh?
You have my condolences for every year till this one.
I never did understand Sanders though.
by Durdens Wrath on Sep 1, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
anybody who plays for a bad team will tell you
it stops being worth it.
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Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
See Palmer, Carson
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I understand exactly where Sanders was coming from.
So does Carson Palmer, although he was never on the level of player that Sanders was. We all thought he would get there in 2005.
Ahem
Best. Offensive Line. Ever. I’m as big a Cowboys homer as anyone, but every skill player on that team was elevated immensely by that line.
"I don't know; we haven't played Alabama yet." -Vince Lombardi
I don't count the Switzer bowl rings
I never forgave Jerry Jones for firing Jimmy Johnson.
/Can’t understand why you fire coach after two spectacular Super Bowl wins.
//Jerry needs to shut his whore mouth and sit in the skybox.
by Durdens Wrath on Sep 2, 2011 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Moose blocking for him.
Aikman and Irvin’s air game alleviating pressure. A Pro-Bowl caliber O-line blocking for him. Put Barry in that system and nobody would be able to sniff the all-time rushing record.
Will engineer for food and loan payments.
Barry fucking Sanders.
As your attorney, it is my duty to inform you that it is not important that you understand what I'm doing or why you're paying me so much money. What's important is that you continue to do so. -HST
So in this metaphor
Pixar is Larry Allen et al.?
"I don't know; we haven't played Alabama yet." -Vince Lombardi
No, Larry Allen et al. is a combination of Pixar skill and hitting the right nostalgia buttons at the right time.
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And Jerry Jones is Eisner?
And Troy Aikman is the T-Rex (for no other reason other than I assume that’s what Troy Aikman is like in person)
"I don't know; we haven't played Alabama yet." -Vince Lombardi
Go sit in the corner
And think about what you did
by Nick Petrilli on Sep 1, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Find a copy of the soundtrack
and prepare to be amazed. Or amused. Or bored. Depends on your tastes, really.
Yo, don't say nuthin'. I guess I'm just a freak.
Tom Sawyer remix?
Tom Sawyer remix.
by Broncanous Mendenhall on Sep 1, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
tom sawyer remix?
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Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
"It's like a koala bear crapped a rainbow in my brain!" -- Captain Murphy
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by thechuck_2112 on Sep 1, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Criminally underrated movie
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I need cussin' and guttin' to have a good time at the movies.
I love green because money be green.
_____________________
Twittin
i might have been exceedingly drunk when i saw it in theaters
and the very end of the movie . . .waterfalls.
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk. Then we shall find, and beat the asses of, the nonbelievers who ruined my feast.
– Alvis
Alvis bless us, everyone!!
Highly underrated.
“Football season is upon us, dahlink.”

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by bronconationeast on Sep 1, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
so THAT'S where Oregon is getting that shit...
"Well, if that ain't a show, I'll kiss your ass." - Gov. Jim Folsom Sr. (D-AL), 1948-52
by VandyImport on Sep 1, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I like the Incredibles
if for no other reason than Holly Hunter’s voice……….it does something to me, if you know what I mean
Shut Up! I must have my EDSBS and my bourbons!!
Ever see James Ballard's "Crash"?
//caraccidentfetish’d
And You Will Know Us By The Trail of DERP
by Big Head Zach on Sep 1, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I was 5 years old when I first saw Toy Story, and in college when Toy Story 3 came out
So as some one who can pretty grew up at the same rate as Andy and his toys, this movie absolutely reduced my to tears.
A proud Wacavhoosabrelier. now on Twitter
THIS.
I managed not to cry, because I didn’t want to in front of my date, but it was gettin’ awful dusty in that thar theatah.
you were just choked up again, all is ok.
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by Chloe Denmark on Sep 1, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Obligatory
sorry for large size.

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by thechuck_2112 on Sep 1, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I absolutely hate this chart.
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Screw you.
I’m 35.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL U OLD BRO?
"They wouldn't be heroes if they were infallible, in fact they wouldn't be heroes if they weren't miserable wretched dogs, the pariahs of the earth, besides which the only reason to build up an idol is to tear it down again."
OFF MY LAWN!
進者往生極楽 退者無間地獄
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Shit, I'm not and I remember Little Mermaid more than Home Alone.
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by Chloe Denmark on Sep 1, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
You get a rec, young'un. I'm 37 and not a single fuck do I give about admitting it.
"I have never been noticeably reticent about talking on subjects about which I know nothing." Prince Phillip
Best part of growing old
1. Having kids who master video games as you idly watch as you go about your business, noting key elements and strategies.
2. Going to the office filled with 20-somethings talking about the latest game they just bought.
3. Dropping ‘spoiler’ lines like, “Have you noticed that when you kill a bunch of folks in RDD, the bodies disappear but their hats don’t?”
4. Walk away, laughing at their stunned expressions.
It's not BAD, per se
In fact, I think it’s pretty good. But, it isn’t the BEST ANIMATED FILM EVER.
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IMHO.
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by bronconationeast on Sep 1, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok
I feel you, I just..I mean…
oh, ok.
by Gord the Rogue on Sep 1, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
wizards?
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Are team is gone. We should just take the L.A stadium. And start over cause it seems like u gave are team away…
by Amsterdam Admirals on Sep 1, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh, at the risk of sounding like a total anime nerd
Princess Mononoke
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by SPORTSGEEK42 on Sep 1, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Beauty and the Beast is my favorite Disney movie
And is probably my number two.
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WALL-E > Up > Toy Story
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
SRSLY?
lolwutpear.jpg
Chairman of the Frivolous And Wasteful Committee On Avocado Peels (FAWCOAP).
by AUTigerGSUEagle on Sep 1, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
YEAH
COME AT ME BRO
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by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Toy Story 3 is the first time I thought
Pixar made a real challenger to Finding Nemo for the throne. Love Ratatouille, really like Up, love Wall-E, but God damn Finding Nemo is a great movie.
Do you speak whale?
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by Chloe Denmark on Sep 1, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
ES CAP A
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
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by Pain in the Sash on Sep 1, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Up > Finding Nemo > The Incredibles> Toy Story 1 > Toy Story 2 > Monster's Inc. > Toy Story 3 > Wall-E
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OK, fine...
Toy Story 3 > Finding Nemo > Wall-E > Toy Story 2 > Ratatouille > Toy Story > Monster’s Inc. > The Incredibles > Up > Cars
ends with >Cars 2
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by Chloe Denmark on Sep 1, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Cars 2 and A Bug's Life are my Pixar blind spots.
Cars 2 is likely to stay that way. I enjoyed the first movie in spite of the Mater character, so….
I will admit that Toy Story 3 irritates me
The story is beautiful from the toys’ perspective. But I just can’t get past the notion that no 18 year old boy would part so reluctantly and so lovingly with his toys when going off to college.
Chairwoman of the "Blood Is Thicker Than Tuition Money" Committee for Fan Bigamy
But I think a 20-something post-college guy
would be mature and nostalgic enough to act that way. But in the context of the overall story having Andy “going to college” made the most sense. So they grafted the world-view and maturity of a 20-something onto an 18-year-old.
I was really rather OK with that.
Pixar wars? Bring it on...
Cars > Up > Ratatouille > Toy Story 3 > Finding Nemo > The Incredibles > Toy Story 2 > Toy Story > Monster’s Inc > Wall-E
thassa good one though
not quite as good as the fulmer cup troll, but a good one
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Finding Nemo > Up > Toy Story 3 > Wall-E > The Incredibles > Toy Story 1 > Toy Story 2 > Monsters > Cars > Bug's Life.
Of the ones I’ve seen.
Live to fly!
Go Gators!
Finding Nemo is okay
I still rate WALL-E higher, though
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by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I lost interest after Luxo Jr.

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by bronconationeast on Sep 1, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
UMAD?
I guess I just don’t like to have political rhetoric thrown at me during a movie. I find subtle mentions to be interesting, but I just can’t get past the whole premise of WALL-E.
The political undertones were a bit much, sure
but I find it easy to tune it out in that movie.
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm just a sucker for the Eva and Wall-E interactions
I honestly don’t really care much about the rest of it.
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
If Wall-E had never interacted with the humans
That would have been an all-time great movie.
Not animated movie. Movie.
Nick Bloomfield: EDSBS Hero.
WHAT THE ACTUA
[big ass spider scaring grown ass men.jpg]
Oh. Right.
Hey – football!
"I have never been noticeably reticent about talking on subjects about which I know nothing." Prince Phillip
Switch the last two and we have a winner.
"I don't know; we haven't played Alabama yet." -Vince Lombardi
Overrated. I will also admit, that most Japanime escapes me.
That and their weird fetish about tentacles.
by Durdens Wrath on Sep 1, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I've always been more of a fan of Afganistanimation
Something about Monkeys having butlers always did it for me.
Do you think Eddie Money has to put up with this shit?
Cool Starry Bra:
Johnny Chimpo is the name of the monkey—“Chimpo” in Japanese is “dick”.
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Hence the trollishness of the South Park episode "Chimpokomon".
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by Big Head Zach on Sep 1, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
You missepelled JinRoh
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"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
??

進者往生極楽 退者無間地獄
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U. Hawaii Warrior because the government pays my grad school tuition
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by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
wolf brigade
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Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Thirded
But I’m a “fireflies” guy…
Inanity @gothlaw
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not; a sense of humor to console him for what he is." -Sir Francis Bacon
by Stuck in the Plains on Sep 1, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Digimon> Princess Mononke
/runs as fast as his little legs will take him
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"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Hold on, which Digimon movie?
If it’s the one by Mamoru Hosoda, I’ll let you live.
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whichever one sucked, obvs
my first entry was pokemon or monster hunter
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Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Yeah, I can see how you get there.
Both are excellent.
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Akira and then everything else.
At least until they redubbed the American Version.
If we’re going for the long form, Evangelion.
You know
I don’t think that’s in the same genre of what we’re discussing.
by Nick Petrilli on Sep 1, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Animated film is animated film.
/trying not to go on a rant on how Americans mistakenly think animation can only be used for children’s entertainment
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by SPORTSGEEK42 on Sep 1, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't believe that
I’m talking computer animation vs. hand drawn. The discussion seemed to be purely Pixar until you opened it up.
by Nick Petrilli on Sep 1, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, well shit.
If I’m limited to computer animation, I go with Up.
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Spirited Away > Princess Mononoke
Sometimes I feel like I could make a case for Laputa as well.
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by thechuck_2112 on Sep 1, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't everyone get behind castles floating in skies?
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by thechuck_2112 on Sep 1, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
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Yes. I like Wizard Howl very much.
I think Miyazaki did what he could to rescue the movie after it had originally been fucked.
Imus Hibernii Pugnaces!
Not the biggest fan of Howl.
Maybe I needed to be baked or something.
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by thechuck_2112 on Sep 1, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I love "Howl"
but I suspect we’re talking about a different Howl.
Yo, don't say nuthin'. I guess I'm just a freak.
That Howl auto-rec
"They wouldn't be heroes if they were infallible, in fact they wouldn't be heroes if they weren't miserable wretched dogs, the pariahs of the earth, besides which the only reason to build up an idol is to tear it down again."
Les Miles! I'm with you in Baton Rouge!
where you’re madder than I am
I’m with you in Baton Rouge!
where you must feel very strange
I’m with you in Baton Rouge!
where you imitate grazing cows
I’m with you in Baton Rouge!
where I hear Craig James might have murdered five hookers
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by thechuck_2112 on Sep 1, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
My, aren't we a well-read commentariat 'round these parts!
Enjoy your rec, sir!
Yo, don't say nuthin'. I guess I'm just a freak.
This is what I get for attempting to work for like 2 hours.
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by thechuck_2112 on Sep 1, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep. That was my reaction too.
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Akira?
As your attorney, it is my duty to inform you that it is not important that you understand what I'm doing or why you're paying me so much money. What's important is that you continue to do so. -HST
Probably my pick
Never been a huge Pixar fan though.
/pleasedon’tkillme
"They wouldn't be heroes if they were infallible, in fact they wouldn't be heroes if they weren't miserable wretched dogs, the pariahs of the earth, besides which the only reason to build up an idol is to tear it down again."
and then they made Cars 2. . .
let’s hope Brave can redeem them
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk. Then we shall find, and beat the asses of, the nonbelievers who ruined my feast.
– Alvis
Alvis bless us, everyone!!
money tastes AWESOME on toast.
nothing rescues Bagels
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Yeah
They make BANK off the merchandising from Cars.
To quote Mel Brooks:
“Moichendising! Where the real money from the movie is made!”
Oh lawd that was.... bad for pixar.
LETS MAKE A SEMI-FUN FAKE TRAILER TRASH GUY THE MAIN VOICE GUYS HEY GUYS?
by RjTheMetalhead on Sep 1, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
But not as bad as I did during Marley and Me. I was like a fucking faucet
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
Twitter: gregory_forbes
by Pain in the Sash on Sep 1, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Goddamn Swindle
Was wondering what you’d come up with for this season. While it’s totally different tone than last year it’s phenomenal.
I’ve seen quite a few bubbles burst in my life – be it financial or the Gators dynasty – and they always pop. College football is seeing its highest popularity ever and I do fear for the future. Mega conferences, penalties, paying players. Something about CFB as we know it will change in the next few years. 10 years from now we may not notice it, but when it changes I have to hope it won’t be drastic and change the product for the worst.
AWW GODDAMNIT in the time it took me to read & comment I just lost big $ trading Goldman GODDAMNIT it’s almost apropos.
I'm not going to a country that confuses itself with poultry. Never.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Sep 1, 2011 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
/quietly sells every tech share ever owned
///goes to the bomb shelter
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
/buys 100 acres of arable land
by Black Prairie Bullpuppies on Sep 1, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
///already haz
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
//Adding chickens and rabbits next spring...
Play Rugby - No helmets, no pads. Just balls.
by bronconationeast on Sep 1, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
//sells fifty acres for magic beans
by Black Prairie Bullpuppies on Sep 1, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
///eats a lot of peaches
There are a number of mechanical devices which increase sexual arousal, particularly in women.
Chief among these is the Mercedes-Benz 380SL convertible. ~ P. J. O'Rourke
////peaches for me
"Disco?" He shakes his head. "What a dark time for our country."
by Burrito Electrico on Sep 1, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
All of the cocktails?
ALL OF THE COCKTAILS
by Jerkwheat on Sep 1, 2011 1:53 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
"It could be played by trained Corgis fetching a ball in team colors."
… with Will Stein as coach, creating a singularity of adorability that sucks us all into a wormhole full of kitties and cotton candy.
I'm white and I don't dance but that doesn't mean I have all the answers.
by smk73 on Sep 1, 2011 1:54 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
see: the puppy bowl
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Oh air, at half time
Nick Bloomfield: First in trolling, first in shout outs, first in the hearts of the commentariat.
Terrible swimmers, though.
Don’t ask how I know this.
Yo, don't say nuthin'. I guess I'm just a freak.
But hilarious
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Sometimes I don't even feel worthy to read items posted on this site.
This is one of those times.
"Hello, Nicholas Sparks. My pets adore your children's books." -Spencer Hall
Also, Fuck Clemson.
by Gamecock2002 on Sep 1, 2011 1:57 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
I read it twice.
And am still…damn.
Play Rugby - No helmets, no pads. Just balls.
by bronconationeast on Sep 1, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
What really sucks is
that this site shows us what writing/websites/sports commentary could and SHOULD be and makes others that don’t live up to this standard seem even more pathetic by comparison. And then it makes me want to go slap and shake people and point them to this to say: “See…See! THIS is what you should be doing!” And then I just get disgusted with everyone else.
Dear COTG I’m glad football is back.
Meet it is I set it down that one may smile, and smile, and be a villain--Hamlet, I, v
I don't know that this is what other sites should be
This site is only appealing to a small, hypereducated subset of the college football audience that has the ability and inclination to grasp it. Most college football fans trying to read a post like this would come to one of three conclusions: 1) tl;dr, 2) I don’t get it, 3) OMG blasphemy.
1950 NCAA Co-National Champions
Odd man out
I’m the real blasphemer here, because I thought the post was long on in-your-face jadedness and short on celebration. I totally respect the desire to start everything in a contemplative way, given the way things unfolded this summer, but today is the day to set that aside and rejoice in the game we love. Sure, that’s the point, but I think it almost gets lost under the weight of the disappointment that starts the piece.
Whatever, it’s still well-written, this site is still the best out there, and there’s football tonight.
__________________
STRONG LIKE BOAR
Its not blasphemy
If he’s going to recognize this offseason at all though, its going to be ugly. It might be an easy choice to ignore the last nine months and jump back into rejoicing in the game we love, but as a state of the union, this piece worked damn well. Its accurate as hell. Of course superbly written too.
Disclaimer: /is a beaten down UNC fan so, so ready for the ball to be kicked
True enough
I guess my point is that I’m (almost) as sick to death of all that shit as you are, and I’m ready to jettison it all. He addressed it, and did it with flair. If I’m honest I guess I just wish he hadn’t addressed it at all on Kickoff Day.
__________________
STRONG LIKE BOAR
Don't fucking ever dumb it down.
This is the Malort of websites. It’s either for you, or it’s not.
As your attorney, it is my duty to inform you that it is not important that you understand what I'm doing or why you're paying me so much money. What's important is that you continue to do so. -HST
by blanx73 on Sep 1, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
recd. indeed.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
Absolutely amazing piece, Spencer.
A year ago, I was trying to convince my casual college football fan wife to start reading EDSBS, so I showed her your “Football Season is Over” contribution. She loved it so much that she said were it not for a few profanities here and there, she’d be using it the English class she was teaching as a demonstration of excellent writing. This year’s piece is similarly damned fantastic.
Also,
We know this. This is not news. Please stop acting like it is. That’s very ingenious that in the bombed-out church of football, you have figured out that there is no God, and someone is running out the door with the coffers. The only intrigue is in the variation, not in the repeated exaggerated reminders that this is a sport of charlatans, sweathouse labor conditions, and a thousand dodges behind the shield of amateurism.
Any chance you could pass this message on to Beano Cook?
"[Autzen Stadium's] steep concrete banks and closed ends turn a small but rabid crowd from WAC-sized cheering section into a horde of bees with megaphones capable of reaching 127 decibels of hatenoise." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Sep 1, 2011 1:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
"The NCAA is no different than IBM"
“Beano we were talking about how rain might affect the games this weekend”
“Remember that game from 19-dickety-2 where Notre Dame played Carnegie Tech? There was rain there too”
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
Stuff like the CI, short pieces and snarky slap downs in the comments seem to make up the bulk of our experience with Spencer
And then he hits us with something like this, and you just sort of inhale and take a step backwards. We all just wander through the site, getting in dumb fights, posting stupid gifs, and cracking easy jokes, and then all of the sudden Spencer lights a road flare of prose like this that fairly demands your attention. You had best not look away. Awesome, awesome, awesome.
by emc503 on Sep 1, 2011 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
Very true. Now, pull my finger
/fartnoise.jpg
8/17/11 Nick Bloomfield on Finebaum. I WAS THERE.
by Sasquatch Love on Sep 1, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
The Great American Novel in progress
Nick Bloomfield: First in trolling, first in shout outs, first in the hearts of the commentariat.
I dont buy many books
I’d buy whatever Spencer writes. Hell, I’d buy six. That bit about the crumbling, empty houses…just wow. Took me out of my head for a bit.
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
jackwhiteandICPsoon.gif
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
I haven't read everything Spencer has posted
But of the things I have, this is the best.
Fearless Leader could inherit the Palahniuk legacy if he wanted to get all dead tree.
by Gord the Rogue on Sep 1, 2011 2:00 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I probably have, at least posted here or at least linked to from here
It would be hard to pick a best but this at least would be top 5, probably top 3
Nick Bloomfield: First in trolling, first in shout outs, first in the hearts of the commentariat.
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
This piece deserves to be shown
Where everyone who can read can read it. Maybe write it on clouds or something.
by broski on Sep 1, 2011 2:01 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
They should have sent a poet?
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
THATS THE JOKE.GIFGOES HERE
jeez
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
/plane grounded at O'Hare
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
The damnable thing is
between a dead football player, an acid-addled nutjob bent on turning the realignment saga into my own personal hell, and now this — this ridiculously perfect piece of art — I don’t know if I can even handle football tonight now.
The Wiki (I Don't Have a Real Name Yet) -- The Blog (Those Other Guys) -- The Twitter
EDSBS Censor Librorum Promulgatio Media
by jonfmorse on Sep 1, 2011 2:02 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
I get a "Baseball in the late 80's early '90's sad" from this.
We cheered and wanted to see dingers. We believed in heroes. Curtain got pulled and the Great and Powerful Oz wasn’t shit. We root for one jersey and color scheme over another and cast aside these young people after they get Boobie Miles’d. Then we find out the boosters bought and paid for those wins.
Do I enjoy getting an aneurism every Saturday watching an ill-prepared young man run an impotent offensive scheme as much as I did when I was a young man? Hard to tell.
Shit done got real, Orson. Thanks for the perspective. We now return you to Clemson Fucking.
"Beating 'SC is not a matter of life or death, it's more important than that."
Red Sanders-Bruins head coach (1949-57)
by Trouble's A Bruin on Sep 1, 2011 2:04 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
wow.
Not really much more to say.
"It's like a koala bear crapped a rainbow in my brain!" -- Captain Murphy
Hustle Belt -- for all your MACtion needs.
by thechuck_2112 on Sep 1, 2011 2:06 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
Thank You
I loved it, crushingly inspiring
8/17/2011, a day that shall live on inside every dream of triumph.
by Quack Patty on Sep 1, 2011 2:09 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
Reilly, Whitlock, Albom.............and the rest of you fucking hacks out there
THIS IS HOW YOU DO IT
Shut Up! I must have my EDSBS and my bourbons!!
by Eddie Teach on Sep 1, 2011 2:10 PM EDT reply actions 11 recs
Spencer Hall, teaching a Master Class on the one-sentence paragraph.
Deployed properly, it looks like this
In this edit, Pinocchio is a story about bad firewood that ends with the whale, and George Teague’s play didn’t matter because it was cancelled by a penalty.
Take notes.
Plaschke'd:
This time.
The whale ate Pinnochio.
Penalty. Drama. Existence. Emptiness.
by bruinM on Sep 1, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Rick Reilly:
As we stand here at the turn of the century, we wonder whether we’ll continue to be shocked by each year’s new scandal. It’s a story that’s more than a little long in the tooth by now. But little Hayley Lafontaine of Baton Rouge doesn’t know about boosters or bylaws or the BCS. She just knows that she wants to go out and play soccer. And on a fall afternoon, she goes out and does just that.
/throws rotten tomatoes
/possibly also knives
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
/has Garrett Gilbert throw knives
//that way we can actually hurt our opponents.
Nick Bloomfield: EDSBS Hero.
/throws more knives than tomatoes
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
NO.
Albom’d:
[Let me tell you about this thing I was not at, but said I saw live.]
As your attorney, it is my duty to inform you that it is not important that you understand what I'm doing or why you're paying me so much money. What's important is that you continue to do so. -HST
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
Real v. Imaginary
Spencer hit the mood of Planet Earth Sep. 1st, 2011 on the head.
Thank god for College Football Season, even if you do get an out of the office auto-reply.
I YOUR SUPERVISOR AM ON A THREEVE WEEK VACATION
YOU ARE NOT, PEON. SUCK IT AND GET BACK TO WORK. I WILL HAVE INTERMITTENT ACCESS TO EMAIL. DEAL WITH IT. UMAD?
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
I occasionally have cause to send an email to 20k+ addresses for work
You think you hate auto-replies? Try cleaning out the inbox after that clusterfuck.
Apparently there are people in this world that set up an auto-reply every day at 5 PM. I’m reasonably certain that no living insurance agent is important enough to justify that.
by T-Jax, Field General on Sep 1, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I would do that
But since part of my job in sending this occasional email is picking out the addresses that are well and truly dead, I have to scan the responses for “such and such has retired/been fired/resigned/etc”
It makes for a long day once a quarter.
by T-Jax, Field General on Sep 1, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Ill be out of the office for the next six weeks
in an EXTREMELY REMOTE/EXCLUSIVE RESORT where internet is FORBIDDEN. I will get back to you sometime next year.
Stop calling me and sending me e-mails, fucknuts. It's college football season. Thanks and have a great day!
Shut Up! I must have my EDSBS and my bourbons!!
Out of office, returning 9/6
Thanks for your message. I’ll be out of the office from Thursday, September 1 until Tuesday, September 6 drinking brown liquor and revelling unabashedly in the resumption of GOD’S SPORT on vacation, but will respond as soon as I get back.
by Gord the Rogue on Sep 1, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
A wise man once said
""I do not pretend to understand the moral universe; the arc is a long one, my eye reaches but little ways; I cannot calculate the curve and complete the figure by the experience of sight; I can divine it by conscience. And from what I see I am sure it bends towards justice."
by SuperJew on Sep 1, 2011 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Quoting Greg Little, I see?
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
addendium
this piece echoes many of those same sentiments. Change and reform will come in one manner or the other, hopefully for the best, but with the intentions of making sure that college athletics isn’t run like Deadwood.
Unfortunately, we’re all spectators on this ride. But it’ll at least be interesting.
College Athletics is Deadwood
Civilization still hasn’t hit us yet.
by Nick Petrilli on Sep 1, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
But what about the fallout?
Will it at least be interesting?
Yo, don't say nuthin'. I guess I'm just a freak.
/builds New South Bend one tile away from Lexington
Do. Not. Eff. This. Up.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Sep 1, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
"College Station is in a state of rebellion!"
“They wish to change their allegiance to the PAWWWWWWWL Empire!”
Nick Bloomfield: EDSBS Hero.
/Freight with FOOTBAW arrives in Lexington
//Lexington does not demand footbaw.
///Contributes 50 shields toward 500-foot-tall statue of Calipari instead
////each square in Lexington produces one addiitional shield
/////New York Times discovers NCAA Sanctions
//////Calipari wonder becomes obsolete
1950 NCAA Co-National Champions
by Old South on Sep 1, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 18 recs
GREEN IT.
Do. Not. Eff. This. Up.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Sep 1, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a perfectly good spare kidney
That’d I’d be happy to give up for Alpha Centauri 2.
by Gord the Rogue on Sep 1, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
YESYESYESYESYESYESYES
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
pffft. get in line.
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Your's too
Hold still and this won’t hurt that much.
"They wouldn't be heroes if they were infallible, in fact they wouldn't be heroes if they weren't miserable wretched dogs, the pariahs of the earth, besides which the only reason to build up an idol is to tear it down again."
EVERYBODY OUT OF MY WAY.
/shanks gord the rogue
Do. Not. Eff. This. Up.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Sep 1, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I will gladly rip that kidney out with my bare hands.
"They wouldn't be heroes if they were infallible, in fact they wouldn't be heroes if they weren't miserable wretched dogs, the pariahs of the earth, besides which the only reason to build up an idol is to tear it down again."
Honestly,
I’d rather send mind worms to do it.
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I'M SICK OF YOUR SHIT, DEIRDRE, YOU HIPPIE FREAK.
Do. Not. Eff. This. Up.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Sep 1, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
/melts ice caps
/floods chinese hive cities
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
so much hate
Dozens of hours invested in Morgan to achieve endgame in which Gaians eliminated by flooding as a result of buying the votes necessary to lower the solar shield? Yes.
by Gord the Rogue on Sep 1, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh, never did much for me.
by T-Jax, Field General on Sep 1, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
The original took months of my life
and I loved every second, so make that a second spare kidney.
by ClaypidgeonCoug on Sep 1, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
yesyesyesyesyes
"It's like a koala bear crapped a rainbow in my brain!" -- Captain Murphy
Hustle Belt -- for all your MACtion needs.
by thechuck_2112 on Sep 1, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Butch Davis didn't know, and he does not approve of this message.
Shut Up! I must have my EDSBS and my bourbons!!
yes sir!
still can’t believe they set the game time for 8:00pm
Shut Up! I must have my EDSBS and my bourbons!!
I'm bad with words
So… have a rec. It only marginally represents my appreciation for your writing, but currently it’s the best I can do.
One day I’ll figure out a better way to show my appreciation.
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
fantastic
as usual
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk. Then we shall find, and beat the asses of, the nonbelievers who ruined my feast.
– Alvis
Alvis bless us, everyone!!
by RaiderDuck on Sep 1, 2011 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
I agree with everything that you wrote, Spencer.
And as right as you are in that all of this may be gone in ten or twenty years, I have to take solace in that it is not gone yet. That we still have this day, this week, this season to enjoy something so superficial that brings us so much joy.
Let the games begin.
"Fandom is irrational and emotional and therefore should be fun." - Wolverine Liberation Army
Twitter: sportsgeek42
Now Playing: VIII
by SPORTSGEEK42 on Sep 1, 2011 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
There's only one proper way to respond to this prose.
#BeatWake

by Nick Petrilli on Sep 1, 2011 2:17 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
is it weird
that that picture kind of gets me fired up?
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk. Then we shall find, and beat the asses of, the nonbelievers who ruined my feast.
– Alvis
Alvis bless us, everyone!!
anime football?
YAIS PLEEZ
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
that is so very very cool
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
It was done.
It was called Eyeshield 21.
It sucked.
"Fandom is irrational and emotional and therefore should be fun." - Wolverine Liberation Army
Twitter: sportsgeek42
Now Playing: VIII
but fast break was so good?
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
If you want a good sports anime.
Go watch Giant Killing. It’s about Japanese pro soccer. It’s awesome.
"Fandom is irrational and emotional and therefore should be fun." - Wolverine Liberation Army
Twitter: sportsgeek42
Now Playing: VIII
That's awesome
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
You're the Oscar Wilde of college football
Awesome. And awesome. I’m gonna read it again.
Imma hang up and listen
by El Andy on Sep 1, 2011 2:17 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Football is all very well as a game for rough girls, but is hardly suitable for delicate boys.
Play Rugby - No helmets, no pads. Just balls.
by bronconationeast on Sep 1, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
Ironically, fans respond by burning couches.
They just don’t know any other way.
Nick Bloomfield: EDSBS Hero.
by lhb98 on Sep 1, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Considering WV approved beer sales in the stadium
I have to imagine more couches will burn this fall.
What the... I never... FUCKED UP SHIT THERE, BRO

There are a number of mechanical devices which increase sexual arousal, particularly in women.
Chief among these is the Mercedes-Benz 380SL convertible. ~ P. J. O'Rourke
Have you no sympathy at all for the victims of sexual harassment?

(Flimsy excuse to post novel Big Red pictures is flimsy)
1950 NCAA Co-National Champions
by Old South on Sep 1, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
OH MY GOD HE ATE CASSIE!
HOPE YOU LIKE THE HERP REDMAN
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
by Londonjoe on Sep 1, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Mascots have immunity

1950 NCAA Co-National Champions
by Old South on Sep 1, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
I am disturbed
always disturbed by that
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
really? I just think "wow, she's flexible and strong"
If you can't find me on the twitterz, I don't know what to tell you.
by Chloe Denmark on Sep 1, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
The guy inside that got a real nice present
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
Twitter: gregory_forbes
by Pain in the Sash on Sep 1, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe he likes the taste!
If you can't find me on the twitterz, I don't know what to tell you.
by Chloe Denmark on Sep 1, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Anybody else with kids
see that gif and think, “Swiper, no swiping!”?
Just me? OK.
Yo, don't say nuthin'. I guess I'm just a freak.
GAAAHH DORA AUTO-FLAG
進者往生極楽 退者無間地獄
Notre Dame Fighting Irish by birth and undergraduate degree
U. Hawaii Warrior because the government pays my grad school tuition
The Japanese History Podcast
This week: Not such a fan of bovine creatures
by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I got a little girl. I get it
And yes it looks like the Swiper pre-Weight Watchers.
by jerry.bail.bonds on Sep 1, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
All I can think of
is the lucky guy who got to hang out with her inside that costume.
All I know
is that Lance Guidry is going to give a FUCKING AWESOME pregame speech.
"It's like a koala bear crapped a rainbow in my brain!" -- Captain Murphy
Hustle Belt -- for all your MACtion needs.
by thechuck_2112 on Sep 1, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
God may be away, but COTG be trollin' me hard today.
September 1! I can haz Fall?
LOL NO SIR FU 94 AND HUMID.
First day of football! I can haz easy day?
LOL NO SIR FU 10,000 NEW DOCUMENS PLZ TO SUMMARIZE.
I can haz train to class?
LOL NO SIR FU EXPRESS TO BELMONT.
I can haz class end on time?
LOL NO SIR FU GUNNER AGREEZ WITH DISSENT.
If I don’t make it to 5 PM, it’s been an honor serving with you all.
Do. Not. Eff. This. Up.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Sep 1, 2011 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
/hands ACS some paint thinner
You know what you must do.
"Fandom is irrational and emotional and therefore should be fun." - Wolverine Liberation Army
Twitter: sportsgeek42
Now Playing: VIII
/iz 8:30
“Well, I think that wraps it up unless—”
I THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT TO DO FOR THE COMPANY CHRISTMAS PARTY.
Do. Not. Eff. This. Up.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Sep 1, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
In a lighter note:
This morning I saw a license plate with ACS as the letters. I LOL’ed.
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Sep 1, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
ACS is the acronym on base for "Army Community Services"
I laugh every time thinking about the “service” of lighting things on fire.
進者往生極楽 退者無間地獄
Notre Dame Fighting Irish by birth and undergraduate degree
U. Hawaii Warrior because the government pays my grad school tuition
The Japanese History Podcast
This week: Not such a fan of bovine creatures
by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't go to law school.
Do. Not. Eff. This. Up.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Sep 1, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
That lighter that Truffle Shuffle made for you?
Turn it, and your rage, on the gunner. The world will thank you.
Chairwoman of the "Blood Is Thicker Than Tuition Money" Committee for Fan Bigamy
'YOU NEED TO SUMMARIZE THESE DEPOSITIONS ASAP"
“But I already summarized them.”
“NO YOU SUMMARIZED THE NON-YET-FINAL VERSIONS”
“But, why did you have me summarize those when the finalized ones were coming”
“BECAUSE WE HAD TO WAIT LIKE 12 HOURS BEFORE THE FINALIZED ONES CAME IN”
“Why are we in such a rush? Nothing’s on the calendar for this for another 30 day—”
“ASK ANOTHER QUESTION. GO AHEAD. ASK ME ANOTHER QUESTION I FUCKING DARE YOU”
1950 NCAA Co-National Champions
Meanwhile, the partner is double billing clients for researching case law that he makes his paralegal do on weekends
while he sips scotch on his yacht. I know. I work for an insurance claims department that audits those bills.
I used to be a heroin addict. Now I'm a methadone addict.
by Tigerbiglikebull on Sep 1, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
What's that group for management class?
Want to meet AFTER class ends at 8:40 CDT to discuss what book to write a fucking book report on? FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU
by T-Jax, Field General on Sep 1, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
/will be 99 in Colorado today
/am driving to Lincoln with a 3 month old.
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
So my roommate informed me Mark Hamill does the voice of Zim
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
Twitter: gregory_forbes
by Pain in the Sash on Sep 1, 2011 2:25 PM EDT reply actions
Also the Joker
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
WAT
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
DYING DOES NOT ALL OF A SUDDEN MAKE YOU GREAT AT WHAT YOU DO
THERE IS NO BUMP FOR THAT. but he was good. It’s Hamill, Ledger, and Nicholson for me.
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Cesar Romero was better than Nicholson
"Disco?" He shakes his head. "What a dark time for our country."
by Burrito Electrico on Sep 1, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
HE DIDN'T NEED A FUCKING BUMP FOR THAT FUCKING PERFORMANCE TO BE HIGHLY RATED
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm on #TeamLedger
but Hamill is the clear #2.
I almost spit out my coffee when I saw an old Siskel and Ebert review of Mask of the Phantasm. The dismissed the Joker briefly with an off-hand comment like “And Mark Hamill has a small role as a rather disappointing Joker. That part of the movie didn’t work.” Whhaaaaa?
He's made quite a nice living doing voices.
"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"
I was going to thank Mr. Hall for helping to kill off EcoKat
but thanks for the writing
The time for calm and rational discourse is past, now is the time for senseless bickering -Anonymous the Younger
by Anon_the_younger on Sep 1, 2011 2:25 PM EDT reply actions
I have to go to a Happy Hour
And will miss the first quarter of Murray State – Louisville. Can someone text me updates?
I have to get it out somehow.
It’s a Monday in a small town in western Maryland. A small college team you don’t care about, perhaps a team of which you have never even heard, is working on drills in the cool mid-August air; the temperature won’t exceed 70 on this day in this sleepy mountain town.
It’s a Monday in Texas. The heat is sweltering, but the attention here is not on the practice field. It’s on an office in Dallas, and an office in Austin, and an office in College Station. It’s on the chambers of the Texas State Legislature, and on the corporate headquarters of the World Wide Leader in Sports.
In Maryland, a senior fullback suddenly collapses on the field. Derek Sheely, originally a Penn State recruit who left State College after a year, was an honors student and member of the Atlantic Central Football Conference all-academic team. He was elected as a team captain for the Frostburg State Bobcats coming into the season. The initial assumption is that Sheely had some sort of heart problem, as he didn’t collapse as a result of contact.
In Texas, it’s money money money, and it’s all we, the audience for this circus, seem to care about.
In Maryland, Sheely ends up at Baltimore Shock Trauma, where it’s determined that he’s suffered some sort of severe head injury. Seven days later, Sheely is dead. Eleven days later, there’s still no answer as to what happened; nobody knows.
In Texas, one school has announced their intention to leave their conference. Another school is being blamed for everything short of Derek Sheely’s death, because nobody knows about Derek Sheely’s death; even a guy in Oklahoma who plays at covering lower division football doesn’t find out about it until today. The fate of several other schools is up in the air, perhaps to be consigned to oblivion by the machinations of media and money. Sheely’s fate is not.
It’s true. God’s not here right now. Because if he were, certainly our perspective would be reversed. A college player dead on the practice field would be of more import than a bunch of greedy jackasses jockeying for position in a world order which may not even matter ten years from now.
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by jonfmorse on Sep 1, 2011 2:29 PM EDT reply actions 18 recs
EDSBS short story challenge?
EDSBS short story challenge.
by Nick Petrilli on Sep 1, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Here I sit, broken hearted.
Came to shit and only farted.
living up to your name with that one
I'm not going to a country that confuses itself with poultry. Never.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Sep 1, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
It was scrawled on the wall
above the toilet in cabin at sleep away camp circa 1998. Lives with me to this day.
The thing I remember vividly scribbled on the bathroom wall is:
“If green is art, then I just made a masterpiece”
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
Twitter: gregory_forbes
by Pain in the Sash on Sep 1, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Here I sit....My buns a-flexin'...
Giving birth to another Texan.
Have fun with A&M y’all!
by Uncle Earmuffs on Sep 1, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Now thats funny
Sure is hot here close to college station
by DoubleupHarper on Sep 1, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
LOLNOLES
See if you spent more time remembering your juggling routines instead of some garbage scrawled on a wall, maybe you wouldn’t have flunked out of that clown college up in the panhandle, mmm?
I'm not going to a country that confuses itself with poultry. Never.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Sep 1, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
BACK TO YOUR BLOOMBERG TERMINAL! BACK!
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
WOO BOURBZ FLORIDA STATE HATE IZ TASTY.
Do. Not. Eff. This. Up.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Sep 1, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
DAT ASS!
hmm…that response made alot more sense in my head. But yea, mid-season form on opening night. BRING IT.
I'm not going to a country that confuses itself with poultry. Never.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Sep 1, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope for the sake of your heart that the Charlesfense is the 2006 vintage, not the 2007
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
2008: Charlie and the Field Goal Factory
Do. Not. Eff. This. Up.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Sep 1, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I couldnt have much lower expectations
as long as the defense looks good and the offense is something other than a smoldering dumpster fire and shows improvement, I’ll be satisfied. Expect 7 wins, 8 and above and season exceeds.
LOLOLOL BUT I’MMA STILL DRINK THO
I'm not going to a country that confuses itself with poultry. Never.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Sep 1, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
You seem a little edgy today.
Do. Not. Eff. This. Up.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Sep 1, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
/dumps box of angry ferrets on ACS
I'm not going to a country that confuses itself with poultry. Never.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Sep 1, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Bawwwwww so fuzzy and MY GOD THEY'RE GNAWING ON MY KNEE LIGAMENTS.
/shoots ferret
//throws ferret corpse at TGoJH
Do. Not. Eff. This. Up.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Sep 1, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Ferrets: the natural enemy of Purdue
進者往生極楽 退者無間地獄
Notre Dame Fighting Irish by birth and undergraduate degree
U. Hawaii Warrior because the government pays my grad school tuition
The Japanese History Podcast
This week: Not such a fan of bovine creatures
by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought attacking imaginary things was Al Gore's job.
“I told you Purdue was real!”

"It's like a koala bear crapped a rainbow in my brain!" -- Captain Murphy
Hustle Belt -- for all your MACtion needs.
by thechuck_2112 on Sep 1, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
/offers said corpse to DrBundy for tasty tailgating appetizers
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Gonna need a few of em
backstraps on a ferret won’t feed many folks.
Yo, don't say nuthin'. I guess I'm just a freak.
Reminds me of one I saw back in college
Written on a stall: “Why won’t Miami women put out?”
Below in different handwriting: “Because Miami men appear to be better at defacing property than seducing women.”
Et Universitatis Ohioensis delenda est!
by DevilGrad on Sep 1, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
For sale: Baby shoes. Never worn.
Nick Bloomfield: EDSBS Hero.
by lhb98 on Sep 1, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec for Hemingway.
Greatest short story ever.
Melrose Avenue?
I once knew a Stadium on Melrose Avenue. A long time ago when I was a young man. Not a fall goes by when I don’t think about that stadium and the team that plays there that I will always cheer. That one perfect Saturday afternoon on Melrose Avenue.
That’s 5 hours and 22 minutes til football season.
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
Twitter: gregory_forbes
by Pain in the Sash on Sep 1, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
This was meant as a reply to mr Petrill bt-dubs
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
Twitter: gregory_forbes
by Pain in the Sash on Sep 1, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
We care about concussions, and we do care of these things...
like Box’s death. So I would say we are inconsistent, not 100% backward. Not to mention our deep primal thoughts are probably not good fodder for public blogs, so I think there is probably a disconnect between what we discuss vs. what we care about.
Maybe I am just an optimist. An optimist who currently needs a smoke. (not what you think)
Google's homepage celebrates too much shit.
It's not that WE don't care.
It’s that THEY don’t care — they being the media.
I don’t mean to be so damned maudlin, but Spencer’s post really made it all well up. I may not have taken from his post the meaning he intended, but it resonated too much for me.
The Wiki (I Don't Have a Real Name Yet) -- The Blog (Those Other Guys) -- The Twitter
EDSBS Censor Librorum Promulgatio Media
my take on it
in broad strokes..the universe is a big accidental vomitus of mass and energy of which one serendpitious by-blow is a self-aware commentariat. Water will continue to flow downhill whether we like it or not – that is the nature of water. Our crucial attribute in the face of the flood is perception, and we can make of it a surfboard, an umbrella or a cinderblock to shape the experience.
by Gord the Rogue on Sep 1, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
And usually, I'm on the surfboard.
Days happen.
The Wiki (I Don't Have a Real Name Yet) -- The Blog (Those Other Guys) -- The Twitter
EDSBS Censor Librorum Promulgatio Media
Well, again...
Why I am sticking up for the media, I dunno, but “caring” and “reporting” are two different things. Honestly, I don’t feel the need to be privy to information about a kid’s passing. It’s not like I ignore that deaths happen or don’t believe that deaths happen and I am saddened by these losses, but this is as personal as personal information can get. Now, I will want to be informed about what can be done to prevent such acts, but I guess I want to be on the sidelines about the particulars.
Google's homepage celebrates too much shit.
Let me put this to you in a different perspective.
Imagine if this had been the starting fullback for Ohio State… hell, for South Florida or Wyoming or New Mexico State.
The Wiki (I Don't Have a Real Name Yet) -- The Blog (Those Other Guys) -- The Twitter
EDSBS Censor Librorum Promulgatio Media
For me personally...
I would still want to be on the sidelines. But I think you are getting at the attention “difference”. Well, just because something isn’t at the North Pole doesn’t mean its at the South pole. So while imperfections exist, it doesn’t mean that our media system is fully broken.
But like I said earlier, I could be just an optimist.
Google's homepage celebrates too much shit.
first I have heard of this
thats really sad. I hate that this stuff happens, and would agree that its pathetic that making moves for money is covered substantially more than well being of players.
Well said, Jon.
Just as I thought the dust had cleared from my office, too…
Chairwoman of the "Blood Is Thicker Than Tuition Money" Committee for Fan Bigamy
Jon, I know we butt heads every now and then
But, seriously, the stuff you find. The feeling behind words like these, it’s impressive as hell.
As one of the designated small college guys around here, I knew a lot of guys like this. Guys who’d played for the big boys for a season or two, left for one reason or another. As much as we love watching what ESPN/FOX/ABC/NBC/CBS or whoever shows us on Saturday, I’ll always have a soft spot for boys like this. Guys who are playing where no one watches. Playing for schools that most of us have never, and will never, hear of. It’s easy for us to forget that behind all the hits we see on Saturday, and the hundreds that we don’t see during the rest of the week, these guys are literally putting their lives on the line.
I don’t know exactly what I’m trying to say here, I don’t have the eloquence to even belong in this thread. What it comes down to is that I’m glad you told us about this. I’ll be saying a prayer for Derek and his family and his teammates tonight. I’ll be keeping him in mind and praying that the thousands of players that step on the field this weekend, be it freshmen in high school or 5th year seniors stay safe.
Thanks, Jon.
by T-Jax, Field General on Sep 1, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I dunno if I 100% agree
Not everybody is a Nash player, regardless of theory. In fact, sometimes I think what makes us human is that the best of us do the Pareto.
(the aforementioned comment most certainly does not apply to me. I’m a bastard. I just recognize that there are others who aren’t.)
Google's homepage celebrates too much shit.
Swindle, you magnificent bastard
I’m going to commemorate this fine prose by skipping my first class of 3L year.
Greyshirted No More
Black Shoe Diaries
@runthedive
by Peter Gray on Sep 1, 2011 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
Thank you Spencer.
Great stuff.
Game on…
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Sep 1, 2011 2:34 PM EDT reply actions
Coincidence?
The song stuck in my head today is the Vandals’ “Don’t Make Me Get My Fat,Lazy Ass Off This Couch”.
"Disco?" He shakes his head. "What a dark time for our country."
by Burrito Electrico on Sep 1, 2011 2:35 PM EDT reply actions
Spencer Orson Swindle Hall
When you decided that you wanted to be a writer, it was a good call.
That is all.
In this paragraph, you're writing about Hoosier football whether you know it or not. You do know it, don't you?
“There is another edit. The one between naivete and cynicism. It is a delicate one. You will first have to accept that this breaks your heart. You will have to accept that this is in some part a scam. You will have to accept that you are bad firewood walking: wooden, a puppet guided by strings pulling you in directions you can’t always understand or accept. You’ll have to accept, in one form or another, that God’s away on business, and you will have to take care of this yourself no matter how long you have to run. You have to accept that the only redemption for the large, cheap machinations of life is the redemption of experience, the only thing you can control.”
You can love yourself and a man and music and have your purpose in life all figured out at the age of 18, but all three will abandon you and all you will have left to get you up in the morning is Hoosier football and the choice you lay out above. If you’re really lucky, you might find a way to get back two out of three and say fuck you to the third. In the meantime, you have Hoosier football to nurse you through disillusionment, for what that’s worth. You get the Marching Hundred and weeknight rehearsals and Tau Beta Sigma and weeping as you hold your helmet in your hands as the final seconds of the 2004 Penn State game tick down and IU tries to run it up the gut, and getting a text that Hep died during your archaeological dig, and watching Kellen Lewis run and James Hardy catch, and Bill Lynch throw his gum. You get to be the judge of “what that’s worth”.
A lot of people are going to laugh at this. I could not possibly give a fuck. It’s fall. Time for Hoosier football.
Thanks, Spencer, for a fine piece of work.
For God and country—Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo
No greater love, no sweeter sin, than red hot brass and ice cold gin.
by LoneStarHoosier on Sep 1, 2011 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Mid-Major football, too.
Now, if we could just get Indiana to schedule us for a home-and-home.
Handbags at dawn, sirrah.
by ChocolateCity on Sep 1, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Ladies and gents. Inside 5.5 hrs
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
Twitter: gregory_forbes
by Pain in the Sash on Sep 1, 2011 2:41 PM EDT reply actions
can someone just make it be 2pm?
If you can't find me on the twitterz, I don't know what to tell you.
by Chloe Denmark on Sep 1, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
not soon enough!
If you can't find me on the twitterz, I don't know what to tell you.
by Chloe Denmark on Sep 1, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell, it's been 2PM here for 48 minutes....
There are a number of mechanical devices which increase sexual arousal, particularly in women.
Chief among these is the Mercedes-Benz 380SL convertible. ~ P. J. O'Rourke
You're not in GOD'S time zone though!
If you can't find me on the twitterz, I don't know what to tell you.
by Chloe Denmark on Sep 1, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
UNPOSSIBLE
I am in GOD’s OWN SOUTH.
There are a number of mechanical devices which increase sexual arousal, particularly in women.
Chief among these is the Mercedes-Benz 380SL convertible. ~ P. J. O'Rourke
You know COTG picks and chooses. South you have.
Time zone belongs to us flyover kids.
If you can't find me on the twitterz, I don't know what to tell you.
by Chloe Denmark on Sep 1, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
3? I would like 3.
If you can't find me on the twitterz, I don't know what to tell you.
by Chloe Denmark on Sep 1, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
over due.
and CONFERENCE CALL NOT STARTING
If you can't find me on the twitterz, I don't know what to tell you.
by Chloe Denmark on Sep 1, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Question!
In the last 30 days, how many have gone by in which you did not have a conference call or meeting?
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually have to count now...hold on....
If you can't find me on the twitterz, I don't know what to tell you.
by Chloe Denmark on Sep 1, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
20 days with meetings, counting weekends as part of 30 days.
also does not include ‘impromptu’ meetings.
If you can't find me on the twitterz, I don't know what to tell you.
by Chloe Denmark on Sep 1, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
When do you get work done?
Sunday?
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
um...during meetings.
You’ve noticed my lack of commenting this week during daylight hours prior to today right?
If you can't find me on the twitterz, I don't know what to tell you.
by Chloe Denmark on Sep 1, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Some
Only because I also have been busy-ish for a week or two recently
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
work has been easy today (FOR ONCE THIS WEEK)
It’s making it through this conference call that was supposed to you know, start now., that’s NOT
If you can't find me on the twitterz, I don't know what to tell you.
by Chloe Denmark on Sep 1, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
HOLY SHIT WE JUST GOT ESPN THE U TODAY AND I WASN"T INFORMED
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
Twitter: gregory_forbes
by Pain in the Sash on Sep 1, 2011 2:45 PM EDT reply actions
WE HAVE DVR
I JUST FOUND THIS OUT YESTERDAY.
NOW I CAN WATCH BOISE-GEORGIA WHENEVER THE HELL I WANT KTHX.
PLZ TO SHARE K THX
/will miss both Oregon/LSU and UGA/Boise
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
Twitter: gregory_forbes
by Pain in the Sash on Sep 1, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe Schad reports that Pain in the Sash receives ESPN programming.
Nick Bloomfield: EDSBS Hero.
by lhb98 on Sep 1, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Just remember

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Sep 1, 2011 2:47 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
OH I'm a champion since I don't eat turkey on thanksgiving? RAWK ON!
If you can't find me on the twitterz, I don't know what to tell you.
by Chloe Denmark on Sep 1, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I have turkey.
And ham. And roast beef. And pork. And chicken.
#teameverything
Live to fly!
Go Gators!
I tried to buy one last year, but....
Mrs MtnEer has a really strong aversion to eating duck.
There are a number of mechanical devices which increase sexual arousal, particularly in women.
Chief among these is the Mercedes-Benz 380SL convertible. ~ P. J. O'Rourke
WANT TO TRY PLZ
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a shitload of work,
and every time I do it, I swear next time I’m just going to buy one. Fresh duck is the key. That frozen store bought duck won’t cut it, unless you buy one just for the skin/fat and give the rest to the cat.
Yo, don't say nuthin'. I guess I'm just a freak.
tradition posts billboards they
later would rather you forget
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What are you supposed to have for Thanksgiving, then?
Duck?

by Broncanous Mendenhall on Sep 1, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Christmas Story Autorec
進者往生極楽 退者無間地獄
Notre Dame Fighting Irish by birth and undergraduate degree
U. Hawaii Warrior because the government pays my grad school tuition
The Japanese History Podcast
This week: Not such a fan of bovine creatures
by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
ROR!
For God and country—Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo
No greater love, no sweeter sin, than red hot brass and ice cold gin.
by LoneStarHoosier on Sep 1, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yes?

And if the sonofabitches are gone, then it is goodbye. Good enough. nt-whills
by run Bevo run on Sep 1, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i killed 12 men at okinawa
"I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Not that I've got room to talk over the last 20 years
but Oregon might want to WIN the NC first before putting signs up like that. SEC Tradition seems to have gotten the better end of things last January.
進者往生極楽 退者無間地獄
Notre Dame Fighting Irish by birth and undergraduate degree
U. Hawaii Warrior because the government pays my grad school tuition
The Japanese History Podcast
This week: Not such a fan of bovine creatures
by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Because Pac-10 championships, they have no meaning.
Silly conferences.
The Wiki (I Don't Have a Real Name Yet) -- The Blog (Those Other Guys) -- The Twitter
EDSBS Censor Librorum Promulgatio Media
Yeah, I didn't read that bilboard as a swipe at the rest of their CONFERENCE
but whatever.
進者往生極楽 退者無間地獄
Notre Dame Fighting Irish by birth and undergraduate degree
U. Hawaii Warrior because the government pays my grad school tuition
The Japanese History Podcast
This week: Not such a fan of bovine creatures
by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I immediately took it as a swipe at USC.
But then again, their mascot is far from scary.
I love green because money be green.
_____________________
Twittin
I'm sure there are people out there with Glueophobia.
Do. Not. Eff. This. Up.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Sep 1, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I have dissimulatosquarophobia.
It’s a fear of chumps in costume.

There are literally dozens of us.
I love green because money be green.
_____________________
Twittin
Tradition wears 2 colors, btw
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
by Londonjoe on Sep 1, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It just doesn't wear threeve color combinations.
If you can't find me on the twitterz, I don't know what to tell you.
by Chloe Denmark on Sep 1, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
which two colors are up for debate.
I’m partial to Blue and Gold
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
As long as the Gold is Old, I'm down with that.

There are a number of mechanical devices which increase sexual arousal, particularly in women.
Chief among these is the Mercedes-Benz 380SL convertible. ~ P. J. O'Rourke
that's maize.
gold belongs to the one true religion and its followers
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
"gold belongs to the one true religion and its followers" Hail Eris!

There are a number of mechanical devices which increase sexual arousal, particularly in women.
Chief among these is the Mercedes-Benz 380SL convertible. ~ P. J. O'Rourke
strangely aroused...
the girl is attractive too
by Gord the Rogue on Sep 1, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
The Eye in the Pyramid, p. 128
He climbed the seventeen steps, old one-eye still swollen and aching. The top of the pyramid was broad and flat, and he stood facing the apple. He put a hand out and touched it, expecting cold metal, surprised when the softly glowing texture felt warm as a human body to his touch. About half a foot below the level of his waist he saw a dark, elliptical opening in the side of the apple, and a sinister suspicion formed in his mind.
“You got it, George” said the booming voice that presided over his initiation. "Now you’re supposed to plant your seeds in the apple. Go to it, George. Give yourself to Goddess.
by Gord the Rogue on Sep 1, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
//gloryhole'd
And You Will Know Us By The Trail of DERP
by Big Head Zach on Sep 1, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
Iowa wears white as a formality
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
Twitter: gregory_forbes
by Pain in the Sash on Sep 1, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
/hate is the 4th color
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Usually it's two colors, plus white, unless white is one of the origional two.
Live to fly!
Go Gators!
Oh, well this guy beat me to the punch.
What the eff, Specter?! GAWL.
I love green because money be green.
_____________________
Twittin
Home colors, and white away jerseys?
Often makes 3, don’t it?
I love green because money be green.
_____________________
Twittin
/begins screed on true meaning of sign
//remembers what I said yesterday
///closes mouth and hits “cancel.”
what do they have against turkey on thanksgiving?
"Your spelling and grammar errors belie a seriously skilled thought process"- therealCatnuts
by justsomehawkeyefan on Sep 1, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
You can't cook it quickly
And Chip Kelly hates things that are slow.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
get a fryer then, motherfucker
stay away from my Turkey, “Chip”
I'm not going to a country that confuses itself with poultry. Never.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Sep 1, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Word.....
Last T-day bird was cooked in 1 hour 20 minutes from the time we turned the gas on the burner.
There are a number of mechanical devices which increase sexual arousal, particularly in women.
Chief among these is the Mercedes-Benz 380SL convertible. ~ P. J. O'Rourke
we actually grill ours on the ol' weber kettle.
takes about 2-2.5 hrs. Fantastic though.
I'm not going to a country that confuses itself with poultry. Never.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Sep 1, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
We are the team that milks the clock
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
Twitter: gregory_forbes
by Pain in the Sash on Sep 1, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Tradition doesn't pay Willie Lyles for scouting reports.
"When among evil companions, try to fit in." - Wild Bill Donovan
Tradition doesn't write a fucking check.
by Albino Tornado on Sep 1, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's Jerry Springer
進者往生極楽 退者無間地獄
Notre Dame Fighting Irish by birth and undergraduate degree
U. Hawaii Warrior because the government pays my grad school tuition
The Japanese History Podcast
This week: Not such a fan of bovine creatures
by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
those are the words used
to sell the first acid washed blue jeans
I feel like this sign
is just a roundabout attempt at justifying their threeve uniforms.
"It's like a koala bear crapped a rainbow in my brain!" -- Captain Murphy
Hustle Belt -- for all your MACtion needs.
by thechuck_2112 on Sep 1, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the "pleasing sartorialally dumbass 18-year-old recruits" is proper justification.
And yes, I said “sartorialally.”
I love green because money be green.
_____________________
Twittin
happiness is-college football
Today is the new opening day. Today is to our generation, a generation of football diehards, what baseball opening day was to our fathers and grandfathers. Give me the Murray States and Western Kentuckys of the world. It is Thursday night and college football games that count are going to be played. Cold beers will be cracked, wings eaten and when that ESPN college football music begins to play and shots of Madison beam from my 56" LCD television the green field turf will be just a bit greener, ill be just a little bit freer and the world will be just that much closer to being a little more right.
That'll teach me to go do work for an hour and a half.
This is, hands down and no arguments brooked, the finest thing I have ever read about college football.
Bravo.
"Well, if that ain't a show, I'll kiss your ass." - Gov. Jim Folsom Sr. (D-AL), 1948-52
by VandyImport on Sep 1, 2011 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
OMG WE ARE THIS CLOSE TO BEING FUCKED.

"Hello, Nicholas Sparks. My pets adore your children's books." -Spencer Hall
Also, Fuck Clemson.
by Gamecock2002 on Sep 1, 2011 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 12 recs
Um, actually we have already fucked you 65 times.
65-39-4
by tommybowden.can.suck.it on Sep 1, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
butthurtform.jpeg
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
They say that might does not make right
That the man that wins in some combat is not vindicated morally.
However…
Moral law is an invention of mankind for the disenfranchisement of the powerful in favor of the weak. Historical law subverts it at every turn. A moral view can never be proven right or wrong by any ultimate test. A man falling dead in a duel is not thought thereby to be proven in error as to his views. His very involvement in such a trial gives evidence of a new and broader view. The willingness of the principals to forgo further argument as the triviality which it in fact is and to petition directly the chambers of the historical absolute clearly indicates of how little moment are the opinions and of what great moment the divergences thereof. For the argument is indeed trivial, but not so the separate wills thereby made manifest. Man’s vanity may well approach the infinite in capacity but his knowledge remains imperfect and howevermuch he comes to value his judgements ultimately he must submit them before a higher court. Here there can be no special pleading. Here are considerations of equity and rectitude and moral right rendered void and without warrant and here are the views of the litigants despised. Decisions of life and death, of what shall be and what shall not, beggar all question of right. In elections of these magnitudes are all lesser ones subsumed, moral, spiritual, natural.
Cormac on football
It makes no difference what men think of football. Football endures. As well ask men what they think of stone. Football was always here. Before man was, football waited for him. The ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner. That is the way it was and will be….
by Lucas Jackson on Sep 1, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
There is room on the stage for one beast and one alone.
All others are destined for a night that is eternal and without name. One by one they will step down into the darkness before the footlamps. Coaches that dance, coaches that don’t.

by Dr. Norris Camacho on Sep 1, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 35 recs
RMFT?
RMFT
People who live in glass houses should not hang out with Charles Barkley.
by Wallacewade04 on Sep 1, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
The only thing that would make this better
would be if an eagle swooped in at the last second and carried him away.
Most impressed by
the smiling Saban.
Where’d he find that?
You could hire a baboon, and you should win eight games.
-- Former WVU Heach Coach Don Nehlen on playing in the current Big East
by An 'eer with a beer on Sep 1, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
On the eve of the first night of football. I'll leave this here. Favorite speech ever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO4tIrjBDkk
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
Twitter: gregory_forbes
by Pain in the Sash on Sep 1, 2011 2:52 PM EDT reply actions
Just as "Football Season is Over....."
served as my rocket fuel for last seasons disembarkment, this cocktail has me drunkenly wondering what’s to come over the next 4 months. Great work as always OS.
First you take a drink, then the drink takes a drink, then the drink takes you. - F. Scott Fitzgerald
by videoartistknoxharrington on Sep 1, 2011 2:56 PM EDT reply actions
FIRST INJURY OF THE SEASON!
I think I pulled a groin at work
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk. Then we shall find, and beat the asses of, the nonbelievers who ruined my feast.
– Alvis
Alvis bless us, everyone!!
Are you an athlete or a porn star?
If you can't find me on the twitterz, I don't know what to tell you.
by Chloe Denmark on Sep 1, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Afternoon tea just hit the keyboard.....
I won’t tell our IT guy why though.
There are a number of mechanical devices which increase sexual arousal, particularly in women.
Chief among these is the Mercedes-Benz 380SL convertible. ~ P. J. O'Rourke
From spilling it out of glass or mouth?
If you can't find me on the twitterz, I don't know what to tell you.
by Chloe Denmark on Sep 1, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
from spitting while trying to stifle the laughter
There are a number of mechanical devices which increase sexual arousal, particularly in women.
Chief among these is the Mercedes-Benz 380SL convertible. ~ P. J. O'Rourke
Athlete pulls his own groin
Porn star pulls someone else’s.
進者往生極楽 退者無間地獄
Notre Dame Fighting Irish by birth and undergraduate degree
U. Hawaii Warrior because the government pays my grad school tuition
The Japanese History Podcast
This week: Not such a fan of bovine creatures
by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Not if they are doin it WRONG
If you can't find me on the twitterz, I don't know what to tell you.
by Chloe Denmark on Sep 1, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, doing it right was assumed. But yes.
進者往生極楽 退者無間地獄
Notre Dame Fighting Irish by birth and undergraduate degree
U. Hawaii Warrior because the government pays my grad school tuition
The Japanese History Podcast
This week: Not such a fan of bovine creatures
by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I. . . umm. . .
. . .
both?
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk. Then we shall find, and beat the asses of, the nonbelievers who ruined my feast.
– Alvis
Alvis bless us, everyone!!
I mean, we all loved Spencer's peice
I guess yours is just less of a platonic love…
by emc503 on Sep 1, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I really, really like good writing. . .
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk. Then we shall find, and beat the asses of, the nonbelievers who ruined my feast.
– Alvis
Alvis bless us, everyone!!
by RaiderDuck on Sep 1, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I pulled a hammy last night
whoohoo
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Whose groin?
And did they mind?
You could hire a baboon, and you should win eight games.
-- Former WVU Heach Coach Don Nehlen on playing in the current Big East
by An 'eer with a beer on Sep 1, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish I was as good at anything
as you are at this Mr. Hall
"Football allows the intellectual part of my brain to evolve, but it allows the emotional part to remain unchanged. It has a liberal cerebellum and a reactionary heart. And this is all I want from everything, all the time, always."
Chuck Klosterman
by Kerwin4two on Sep 1, 2011 2:57 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
picking up beer on the way home?
what shall I get?
Kona? Lagunitas? ideas?
"Hello, Nicholas Sparks. My pets adore your children's books." -Spencer Hall
Also, Fuck Clemson.
Kona's a solid choice from the islands, good sir.
Longboard is nice.
進者往生極楽 退者無間地獄
Notre Dame Fighting Irish by birth and undergraduate degree
U. Hawaii Warrior because the government pays my grad school tuition
The Japanese History Podcast
This week: Not such a fan of bovine creatures
by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Longboard is nice, but Lagunitas is also a solid choice.
After several seconds of intense concentration:
Lagunitas IPA
There are a number of mechanical devices which increase sexual arousal, particularly in women.
Chief among these is the Mercedes-Benz 380SL convertible. ~ P. J. O'Rourke
I'm going with canadian macros for this week's Thursday and Friday night games
I haven’t decide if I want Labatt or Molson.
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
#teamMoosehead
But I’m saving that for hockey season. My weapon of choice to start FOOTBAW season right is Starr Hill Boxcar Pumpkin Porter.
That Hokie freshman in the Greensboro Coliseum rafters didn't see any of this coming.
Moosehead also crossed my mind
I just haven’t really had a canadian macro in a while and thought this was as good a time as any.
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Starr Hill had a low key event for the debut of Boxcar at one of the bars here (Boylan Heights)
Damn fine beer. As I was drinking it and just watching some unimportant NFL preseason game, some guy comes up to me, asks what I’m drinking, and how I liked it. Ten minutes into our conversation, the dude tells me he is one of the brewers for the company. Apparently, Boxcar is a pain in the ass to make, but definitely worth it in the end.
/Cool story bro
A proud Wacavhoosabrelier. now on Twitter
Languntas' Pilsner is a solid choice
"They wouldn't be heroes if they were infallible, in fact they wouldn't be heroes if they weren't miserable wretched dogs, the pariahs of the earth, besides which the only reason to build up an idol is to tear it down again."
Moar Lagunitas!
Those of us on the left coast appreciate being able to reduce our carbon footprint by drinking lots of Lagunitas
Here is my purchase:
[happy football season]

"Hello, Nicholas Sparks. My pets adore your children's books." -Spencer Hall
Also, Fuck Clemson.
by Gamecock2002 on Sep 1, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
You win at alcohol purchasing.
"They wouldn't be heroes if they were infallible, in fact they wouldn't be heroes if they weren't miserable wretched dogs, the pariahs of the earth, besides which the only reason to build up an idol is to tear it down again."
DOING IT RIGHT
進者往生極楽 退者無間地獄
Notre Dame Fighting Irish by birth and undergraduate degree
U. Hawaii Warrior because the government pays my grad school tuition
The Japanese History Podcast
This week: Not such a fan of bovine creatures
by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to buy the kraken on my way home tongiht
advanced having to work late maneuver
He who rides a tiger cannot dismount
Rec for Southern Tier
I feel they are an under-appreciated brewery. Their 2XIPA is most excellent.
by East Coast Ute on Sep 1, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Kudos for the George Teague shoutout.
One of the most memorable plays I’ve ever seen, for all the reasons you described. That play was brilliant.
That was the day I became an Alabama fan
It is amazing to see Spencer recall it so vividly. George Teague was also a hero for blowing T.O.’s disrespectful ass up:

Fucking great job, Spencer.
by jerry.bail.bonds on Sep 1, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
And there you have it
My favorite athlete of all time.
"I don't know; we haven't played Alabama yet." -Vince Lombardi
Yes
I will always have a soft spot for Mr. Teague.
by jerry.bail.bonds on Sep 1, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Nosebleed out of NOWHERE
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
Twitter: gregory_forbes
by Pain in the Sash on Sep 1, 2011 3:09 PM EDT reply actions
HEY BRO I KNOW THE FEELING BRO IT'S ALL GOOD IF YOU WANT TO COME OVER OR SOMETHING WE DO'NT REALLY HAVE A PARTY GOING BUT WE CAN

"They wouldn't be heroes if they were infallible, in fact they wouldn't be heroes if they weren't miserable wretched dogs, the pariahs of the earth, besides which the only reason to build up an idol is to tear it down again."
by Mango Stasi on Sep 1, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
2 hours, 51 minutes until FOOTBAW!
3 hours, 51 minutes until a game I can watch.
Live to fly!
Go Gators!
I GET U
Inside 3 hours
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
Twitter: gregory_forbes
by Pain in the Sash on Sep 1, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
UT Martin v. Jacksonville State
on the Tres at 5:30 CDT. Get a 1/2 hour on the clock. GET DEEZ EMPLOYER!!!!
"Beating 'SC is not a matter of life or death, it's more important than that."
Red Sanders-Bruins head coach (1949-57)
by Trouble's A Bruin on Sep 1, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Now it says 6.
STOP DELAYING MY GRATIFICATION ESPN TROIS!!!
"Beating 'SC is not a matter of life or death, it's more important than that."
Red Sanders-Bruins head coach (1949-57)
by Trouble's A Bruin on Sep 1, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
This is why you are my favorite UF alumnus.
Besides the girl I have a 6 year anniversary with today.
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Stop smiling at me Bill Nelson. You are not my favorite UF Alumnus. You are a politician.
Go Gata?

"They wouldn't be heroes if they were infallible, in fact they wouldn't be heroes if they weren't miserable wretched dogs, the pariahs of the earth, besides which the only reason to build up an idol is to tear it down again."
by Mango Stasi on Sep 1, 2011 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
That robe is lovely
What is that? Velvet?
by Lucas Jackson on Sep 1, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Regretfully
Did not meet her when she was wearing that. I probably would have tried to steal it, so it’s probably for the best.
Inquiry?
I am not aware of such a sovreign state.
by Lucas Jackson on Sep 1, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is English the common language in this hypothetical state?
"Fandom is irrational and emotional and therefore should be fun." - Wolverine Liberation Army
Twitter: sportsgeek42
Now Playing: VIII
by SPORTSGEEK42 on Sep 1, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Inquire again fornicator of mothers! I proposition thee! Inquire!
"They wouldn't be heroes if they were infallible, in fact they wouldn't be heroes if they weren't miserable wretched dogs, the pariahs of the earth, besides which the only reason to build up an idol is to tear it down again."
In choir!??
/giggles
Johnny you are SO BAD
by Gord the Rogue on Sep 1, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
INQUIRE AGAIN
INQUIRE FORTHWITH, I DEFY YOU, AND AGAIN I DEFY YOU, INQUIRE AGAIN.
by broski on Sep 1, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Majorly off topic, but the Planet of the Apes book is QUITE different from the movie.
Live to fly!
Go Gators!
It is far too hot for the start of college football
We have to march on the field today and that is totally unacceptable unless it’s cold and raining.
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
Twitter: gregory_forbes
by Pain in the Sash on Sep 1, 2011 3:19 PM EDT reply actions
Gameday!!!
It hit me when I was in a meeting with my supervisor and I wanted to stand up and scream and then remembered I was in a meeting. :(
Less than four hours to grade papers and then get drunj as fucj and get to the stadium.
"When I get the ball, I think about touchdowns; when I think about touchdowns, I think about money." - Onterrio McCalebb
Who are you playing tonight?
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
South Carolina State
(lol)
"When I get the ball, I think about touchdowns; when I think about touchdowns, I think about money." - Onterrio McCalebb
by alexanderkotov on Sep 1, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
DON'T LAUGH ITS REAL LIVE FOOTBALL
And see you fucks in a few weeks, for that matter.
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
MACtion is srs bsns.
"When I get the ball, I think about touchdowns; when I think about touchdowns, I think about money." - Onterrio McCalebb
by alexanderkotov on Sep 1, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
no doubt
"It's like a koala bear crapped a rainbow in my brain!" -- Captain Murphy
Hustle Belt -- for all your MACtion needs.
by thechuck_2112 on Sep 1, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
It wouldn't be opening day without a team having to unexpectedly sit players
Memphis has made this opening day tradition continue.
Well, the good news is
there’s no way they could possibly suck any more than they already do.
"When I get the ball, I think about touchdowns; when I think about touchdowns, I think about money." - Onterrio McCalebb
by alexanderkotov on Sep 1, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
for two weeks???
please say for two weeks
by Gord the Rogue on Sep 1, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
poor Memphis
they are not good and they play in what has to be one of the suckiest stadium in the land
Shut Up! I must have my EDSBS and my bourbons!!
GET YER PROFOOTBAW OUT OF HERE RIGHT NOW
"They wouldn't be heroes if they were infallible, in fact they wouldn't be heroes if they weren't miserable wretched dogs, the pariahs of the earth, besides which the only reason to build up an idol is to tear it down again."
by Mango Stasi on Sep 1, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd let it slide for that interview, which made me lol hard.
"When I get the ball, I think about touchdowns; when I think about touchdowns, I think about money." - Onterrio McCalebb
by alexanderkotov on Sep 1, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Without a comma behind "lol", I read your statement totally wrong.
/is 12
by ding ding ding on Sep 1, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, that's k, from now on
I’ll just refer to you as dong dong dong
/i’m 12 years old and i’m okay with this
"When I get the ball, I think about touchdowns; when I think about touchdowns, I think about money." - Onterrio McCalebb
by alexanderkotov on Sep 1, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
No worries...I've been referred to as much worse...
Maybe when you hit 13, you’ll become a little more creative.
by ding ding ding on Sep 1, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
That empty chair makes me happy
I may be a sociopath.
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
"George Teague doesn't give a shit what down it is. He gets the ball, or he dies." ~ Spencer Hall
by Blackheartnopants on Sep 1, 2011 3:38 PM EDT reply actions
I'm inclined to agree

"They wouldn't be heroes if they were infallible, in fact they wouldn't be heroes if they weren't miserable wretched dogs, the pariahs of the earth, besides which the only reason to build up an idol is to tear it down again."
I have a nit to pick with this GIF.
After he says this?
NOTHING HAPPENS.
Why are we constantly referencing anti-climax?
Nick Bloomfield: EDSBS Hero.
...

“I didn’t know who I was until I read this post.
Oh, God, Spencer.
You have been hurt.
You have been hurt by somebody, that much is clear.
Who hurt you?
Who hurt you? Who hurt you?
Who hurt you? Who hurt you?”
by TiderinMS on Sep 1, 2011 3:43 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Rowe
She has that cute litte fuckball thing going for her.
by Lucas Jackson on Sep 1, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure if serious.jpg
Cute? Maybe. Little? Not from where I sit, unless you mean ‘not tall’.

There are a number of mechanical devices which increase sexual arousal, particularly in women.
Chief among these is the Mercedes-Benz 380SL convertible. ~ P. J. O'Rourke
GOOD LORD
One class. 5 books
And the insane asshole is making us print over 500 pages of additional reading for class tomorrow.
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
Twitter: gregory_forbes
by Pain in the Sash on Sep 1, 2011 3:48 PM EDT reply actions
American Military History
I have no idea why in a history class we have to have something printed out about Bin Laden when we start at 1490 something. Seriously? One at a time I understand. But All of them? We figured it out. That’s $25 to print at our Student Union
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
Twitter: gregory_forbes
by Pain in the Sash on Sep 1, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I would love to take that class minus the excessive reading
But then again, anything would have beaten the hell out of my biomedical science curriculum
Imma hang up and listen
I jumped right into it thinking it'd be awesome
But I really really hate why we have to print it all out immediately
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
Twitter: gregory_forbes
by Pain in the Sash on Sep 1, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I took that class. Boy, was it useless.
by Albino Tornado on Sep 1, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I love history
But the obscene amount of printing is stupid
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
Twitter: gregory_forbes
by Pain in the Sash on Sep 1, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
A challenger for Rambler!
Excuse me for my bellicosity. And spelling. Bellicosity and spelling.
"George Teague doesn't give a shit what down it is. He gets the ball, or he dies." ~ Spencer Hall
by Blackheartnopants on Sep 1, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
My pre-1600 Jpn Hist class laughs at your puny 6 books
with the 10 I have to buy, and the 35 I have to find in the library.
進者往生極楽 退者無間地獄
Notre Dame Fighting Irish by birth and undergraduate degree
U. Hawaii Warrior because the government pays my grad school tuition
The Japanese History Podcast
This week: Not such a fan of bovine creatures
by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
5 books doesn't bother me
And frankly all the other reading is fine. But print threeve pages for a grade just to make sure we read it is ridiculous
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
Twitter: gregory_forbes
by Pain in the Sash on Sep 1, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't mind it
because it’s an excuse for me to buy books that I really want to have, but IE would frown on spending the money otherwise.
進者往生極楽 退者無間地獄
Notre Dame Fighting Irish by birth and undergraduate degree
U. Hawaii Warrior because the government pays my grad school tuition
The Japanese History Podcast
This week: Not such a fan of bovine creatures
by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
More books about pre-1600 Japan
than were printed in pre-1600 Japan.
You could hire a baboon, and you should win eight games.
-- Former WVU Heach Coach Don Nehlen on playing in the current Big East
by An 'eer with a beer on Sep 1, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Brilliantly written start to the season
The gf surprised me with baseball tickets tonight, so DVR it is for opening night footbaw.
/in reality checks phone all game
TODAY ON NDNATION:
Sideline playcalling cards? OBSCENE.
Do. Not. Eff. This. Up.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Sep 1, 2011 3:51 PM EDT reply actions
LondonDomer makes really good points
Such points include “they’re lame,” and “I don’t care if they help”
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I want to get out in front of this as quickly as possible
that is not me. I am not londondomer
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
/stops at the Pilot station to get a DQ
or was that the Plain City exit?
"It's like a koala bear crapped a rainbow in my brain!" -- Captain Murphy
Hustle Belt -- for all your MACtion needs.
by thechuck_2112 on Sep 1, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
All right, but what if the four pictures on the card were
keg going over stadium wall, Latin Missal, bootstraps, and pint of Guinness?
Do. Not. Eff. This. Up.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Sep 1, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
IT DOESN'T MATTER THEY ARE LAME AND HAVE NO PLACE IN NOTRE DAME STADIUM
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
And for the Blitz
The desolate wasteland of South Bend, vast sums of money, hunting homeless people most dangerous game style, Lou Holtz.
Any thoughts on your impending move to the Big South West Conference?
"Beating 'SC is not a matter of life or death, it's more important than that."
Red Sanders-Bruins head coach (1949-57)
by Trouble's A Bruin on Sep 1, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
"Get busy living or get busy dying -- that's goddamn right."
I find I’m so excited, I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head. I think it’s the excitement only a football fan can feel, a fan at the start of a long journey whose conclusion is uncertain. I hope I can make it to the BCS. I hope to see Schnelly and shake his hand. I hope Boise’s turf is as blue as it has been in my dreams. I hope.

by Whohah on Sep 1, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions 22 recs
Holy shit.
The 8-ball head on Red takes this from “outstanding” to “legen… wait for it… DARY”.
Nick Bloomfield: EDSBS Hero.
Proud to make this green
"They wouldn't be heroes if they were infallible, in fact they wouldn't be heroes if they weren't miserable wretched dogs, the pariahs of the earth, besides which the only reason to build up an idol is to tear it down again."
Wow. Of all the brilliant things I've read on this site, that was the best.
That’s why this is my favorite corner of the internet.
by 9isEnough on Sep 1, 2011 3:52 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
Absolutely Awesome!!!
I’ll be thinking about this post all day!!!
……And beyond.
Thank you!!!
by Ruprect on Sep 1, 2011 3:57 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
Posted this on the other thread by accident
So, for tonight’s first hour of football, do I focus on North Texas at FIU, or Villanova at Temple?
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 3:58 PM EDT reply actions
SOLD
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone with some talent and spare time
Needs to put the hypnotroll eyes on that pic
Imma hang up and listen
Watch the first play be 4 Verts.
Live to fly!
Go Gators!
by Specter177 on Sep 1, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thank You, Hilton.
a statement often uttered in Beverly Hills hotel rooms.
by Lucas Jackson on Sep 1, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
North Texas-FIU might actually be a game.
I don’t care how many times Addazio calls a dive, Nova graduated like their ENTIRE TEAM from last season. No way that one’s entertaining.
"It's like a koala bear crapped a rainbow in my brain!" -- Captain Murphy
Hustle Belt -- for all your MACtion needs.
by thechuck_2112 on Sep 1, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn't FIU win their bowl game last year on some ridiculous last second trick play?
Or am I making shit up again?
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't say I recall.
"It's like a koala bear crapped a rainbow in my brain!" -- Captain Murphy
Hustle Belt -- for all your MACtion needs.
by thechuck_2112 on Sep 1, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Gave the matter serious consideration
Wish I’d had the foresight to ride the bus to work.
by Gord the Rogue on Sep 1, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
It's at times like this you have to ask yourself WWDDD?
"They wouldn't be heroes if they were infallible, in fact they wouldn't be heroes if they weren't miserable wretched dogs, the pariahs of the earth, besides which the only reason to build up an idol is to tear it down again."
Do a google search for
“Big Red Solutions Binder”. We keep a couple here in the office next to the hurricane supplies and the Code of Federal Regulations.
Yo, don't say nuthin'. I guess I'm just a freak.
Okay, nobody comment for a minute
lull in work, I finally get to read this apparent masterpeice
He who rides a tiger cannot dismount
With all apologies to DaVinci's Notebook: We are reaching that footbaw field in the sky...
All my life I have been searching
For the fabled Promised Land
With my sisters and my brothers
We shall walk there hand in hand
Through the trials and tribulations
And the Devil’s cruel temptations
I know that we will all get there one day
After months and months of offseason
Oh the Gridiron we shall find
And the doors may not be open
But we’ll gather in the line
And our hearts will swell with pride
The day those gates swing open wide
And we take a hike to our seats just in time…
Oh that Magic Field in the Sky
We will all be there together by and by
We will all drink from our plastic
And cheer all overly drastic
When we reach that Magic Field in the Sky
Where Mother Stabby, Father Orson and
Saint Feldman all abide
There will be no more cares or sorrows
On that heavenly tailgate ride
I will lay down all my fears when I put on
Those big foam fingers
And join the choir to chant in harmony (harmony)
We will sing the songs of aimless souls
Who once had gone astray
Who were lost but now are found
When our fight song is now played
Singing “FIght for LSU”,
Growing “Boomer Sooner” stuck in your mind
In the only sport that’s made for you and me
Oh that Magic Field in the Sky
We will all be there together by and by
All COTG’s children shall be freein’
Pirates of the East Carolin’in
When we reach that Magic Field in the Sky
Oh the meekest and poorest
Their inheritants shall see
And a zillion Harvey Updike-types
All will join the jamboree
They will cook at tailgates
Outside sweet Hattiesburg
When they know that their redeemer is
A blob dressed up in all red fur
Won’t you take me to Tuscaloosa
Where the sun is shining bright
All the angels are drunjen
And the people snowy white
Where your problems all are hidden
And unhappiness forbidden
You’ll find salvation for a modest fee
Climb into my F-150
And if you help with the gas
Then we maybe can crosscountry
With five or six game pass
May your afterlife be blessed
Just don’t let Clemson fuck it
Let Auburn and ’Bama set you free…
Oh that Magic Field in the Sky
We will all be there together by and by
All religions may be practiced there
Except for Southern Methodist
When we reach that Magic Field in the Sky
Oh that Magic Field in the Sky
Manufactured by that Uncle Walter Camp guy
We’ll give thanks to that old geezer
And we’ll keep in the freezer
When we reach that Magic Field in the Sky
Nick Bloomfield: EDSBS Hero
ZOMGWTFBBQ UNDER 2 HOURS.
Do. Not. Eff. This. Up.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Sep 1, 2011 4:08 PM EDT reply actions
SQUEEEEEEEEEEE

"They wouldn't be heroes if they were infallible, in fact they wouldn't be heroes if they weren't miserable wretched dogs, the pariahs of the earth, besides which the only reason to build up an idol is to tear it down again."
by Mango Stasi on Sep 1, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 14 recs
IS THIS REAL?
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
See the countdown for the intro of the banner
and it has been hung now at Papa Johns stadium
by jerry.bail.bonds on Sep 1, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
YAY
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
No.
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
threeve people talking at once
The Wiki (I Don't Have a Real Name Yet) -- The Blog (Those Other Guys) -- The Twitter
EDSBS Censor Librorum Promulgatio Media
Soundtrack
I’m pretty sure I was supposed to be listening to Arcade Fire’s “The Suburbs” while reading this. Not sure but pretty sure.
Nice work.
by WindyCityDawg on Sep 1, 2011 4:10 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Y'all should I pack while drinking?
Because I get to go home NOW!
If you can't find me on the twitterz, I don't know what to tell you.
Not sure why this is a question.
"They wouldn't be heroes if they were infallible, in fact they wouldn't be heroes if they weren't miserable wretched dogs, the pariahs of the earth, besides which the only reason to build up an idol is to tear it down again."
I could tell you all what I pack while I drink?
If you can't find me on the twitterz, I don't know what to tell you.
by Chloe Denmark on Sep 1, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Corsets?
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
It goes without saying but

"They wouldn't be heroes if they were infallible, in fact they wouldn't be heroes if they weren't miserable wretched dogs, the pariahs of the earth, besides which the only reason to build up an idol is to tear it down again."
by Mango Stasi on Sep 1, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
meh, staying with family, i don't need no towels.
If you can't find me on the twitterz, I don't know what to tell you.
by Chloe Denmark on Sep 1, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
YAIS
進者往生極楽 退者無間地獄
Notre Dame Fighting Irish by birth and undergraduate degree
U. Hawaii Warrior because the government pays my grad school tuition
The Japanese History Podcast
This week: Not such a fan of bovine creatures
by Kelly's Gyros on Sep 1, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
So who just said fuck homework and started a new game of Pokemon?
This guy. It’s football time Goddamnit
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
Twitter: gregory_forbes
by Pain in the Sash on Sep 1, 2011 4:17 PM EDT reply actions
I still have it from time to time.....
but at least I semi-get paid for it.
There are a number of mechanical devices which increase sexual arousal, particularly in women.
Chief among these is the Mercedes-Benz 380SL convertible. ~ P. J. O'Rourke
Proud parenting moment
7 year old son: “Pokemon is for babies. I like Magic”
by Gord the Rogue on Sep 1, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What's wrong with magic cards?
/shifty eyes
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Ask Nerd Public Enemy #1 Alyssa Bereznak.
And You Will Know Us By The Trail of DERP
by Big Head Zach on Sep 1, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
WAIT.
Crucial question: Which Pokemon?
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Ruby
GBA emulator
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
Twitter: gregory_forbes
by Pain in the Sash on Sep 1, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Unacceptable
Give me red or blue, or give me death.
"The open threads on game days are like fevered dreams: Everyone is hammered and then shit gets burned." - Truffle Shuffle
by The Ghost of John Hannah on Sep 1, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
No question
I played a lot of those. But They didn’t work on my emulator. Finding a good one on OSX is tough shit. But leaf green and fire red worked well for my old school needs
I got 99 donuts cuz a bitch ate one.
Twitter: gregory_forbes
by Pain in the Sash on Sep 1, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
My tendency to engage in chummy riffing and friendly one-upmanship...
… leaves me with the urge to reply to the Author’s piece with an equally eloquent congratulatory remark.
But I know I’m not up to the task. So I’ll just say “thanks.”
I love green because money be green.
_____________________
Twittin
by Joey C. on Sep 1, 2011 4:25 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
Just had my first taste of Booker's
Not sure if the tears I’m shedding are out of shher joy, 127 proof burning or both. More research is required.
"They wouldn't be heroes if they were infallible, in fact they wouldn't be heroes if they weren't miserable wretched dogs, the pariahs of the earth, besides which the only reason to build up an idol is to tear it down again."
The burn, she is intense
Booker’s get right to the fucking point. Crisp. Painful. Clean. Perfect.
1950 NCAA Co-National Champions
Great Piece
Really good piece. My only nitpick would be that Alaska is the largest state not California. Sorry. The trivia nerd in me reigns supreme.
Most populous.
We knew what he meant.
"I don't know; we haven't played Alabama yet." -Vince Lombardi
Well, he did say "largest and most populous".
So… Alaska and Texas, yeah.
The Wiki (I Don't Have a Real Name Yet) -- The Blog (Those Other Guys) -- The Twitter
EDSBS Censor Librorum Promulgatio Media
Thank you.
I appreciate this opening day post as much as I appreciated last year’s opening day post.
by tommybowden.can.suck.it on Sep 1, 2011 4:53 PM EDT reply actions
Question for the commentariat
First “Real” session of my graduate management class. Over the line to smuggle booze into the lecture?
I’m fairly certain we’re interviewing each other or some similar bullshit, so I’ll need my wits about me.
by T-Jax, Field General on Sep 1, 2011 5:06 PM EDT reply actions
You'll need a dram or two to calm your nerves before the fake interviews.
"They wouldn't be heroes if they were infallible, in fact they wouldn't be heroes if they weren't miserable wretched dogs, the pariahs of the earth, besides which the only reason to build up an idol is to tear it down again."
This just in, if you only have Time Warner Internet, you can't get ESPN3. goodbye time warner.
The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
There are advantages to Comcast, in spite of the fact that I want to murder them with a rusty screwdriver
"They wouldn't be heroes if they were infallible, in fact they wouldn't be heroes if they weren't miserable wretched dogs, the pariahs of the earth, besides which the only reason to build up an idol is to tear it down again."
Gee, thanks Spence
/shootsselfinface
Here lies ASCII Picard, he never scored.
by touchdown H-town on Sep 1, 2011 5:25 PM EDT reply actions
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The twitter
Anfield Asylum, sbnation's very own open zoo for the most dangerous game: Liverpool fans
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
by Londonjoe on Sep 1, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
/EntireBoardTurnsGreen
Here lies ASCII Picard, he never scored.
by touchdown H-town on Sep 1, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
less than pre greater than SHIT GOES HERE less than forward slash pre greater than
And You Will Know Us By The Trail of DERP
by Big Head Zach on Sep 1, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm considering a doctoral degree focusing on the works of Dietrich Bonhoeffer.
Particularly regarding his assertion in one of his last letters from prison, “we cannot be honest unless we recognize that we have to live in the world etsi deus non daretur.” [as if God does not exist]
This most excellent post might just find its way into said dissertation. Properly cited of course. Spencer, you magnificent piece of work – this is outstanding.
[Orson Welles Clapping.gif]
"I have never been noticeably reticent about talking on subjects about which I know nothing." Prince Phillip
by Go Big Rev on Sep 1, 2011 6:06 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
As usual great writing.
Makes me think and now my head hurts.
"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"
I Hate
that everyone 45 and under constantly and continuously references pop culture 24/7. We are such pathetic douchey pussies.
"man, my finger stinks!!!"
Why should I add a comment to a 950-odd comment thread?
You’d think everything complimentary, funny or insightful would have been said by now. Any further post would just be noise, right?
Well, I couldn’t walk away without saying bravo, rec’d. Because if after reading that article you can find it in your heart to not say so, you are dead inside, dead. And for someone who loves words beyond most else, you can’t walk past, can’t walk past silently.
Bravo.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
Amazing
You start the day with Mahler and band-nerdiness and the transcendentalism that comes from “instant elegance” and then you post this and it’s weaving around from the legacy of real estate hucksterism and land use and urban planning and sprawl hell to the insanity of this offseason and bringing it back around to why we all come around here and read your words while watching God’s Own Sport.
Seriously incredible work. I am glad they pay you to do this because we’re all richer for it.
Crunch. No, wait, Beefheart. No, wait, Kangaroo.
by alpelican on Sep 1, 2011 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
Drinking for early kickoffs. True fan or raging alcoholic? I believe one can be both.
I used to be a heroin addict. Now I'm a methadone addict.
by Tigerbiglikebull on Sep 1, 2011 8:17 PM EDT reply actions
I lived in this neighborhood, presumably with Spencer
Lansbrook in Palm Harbor, FL….look it up
"I don't really think about normal.I think normal is something I never wanted to be."
Exquisite Writing
Spencer, thank you so much for this. Adroit social commentary at its finest. Your talent is very rare. Thank you again.
To distrust Saban is to love him!
by rockyblock on Sep 1, 2011 9:20 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
Whoa boy
There aren’t too many writers that can flood me with emotion, fundamentally shift my thought process and challenge my intellect at the same time. But you’re one of them.
This was on par with Draper’s Carousel pitch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suRDUFpsHus
Now let’s drink, bitches.
by Gopher86 on Sep 1, 2011 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
There is MONEY in the BANANA STAND.
Bravo, Spencer.
@papaalphakilo
This concludes Tuesday’s episode of Everything Notre Dame Does Is News, So Deal With It. - Miz Holly
by PAK on Sep 2, 2011 12:30 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
recd
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
I don't care if this is hyperbolic
But this one of the best pieces of writing, let alone sportswriting, that I have ever read. Bravo Spencer, Bravo.
Oh, and Fuck Clemson.
by kofibiney on Sep 2, 2011 1:40 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
recd.
Spencer Hall is the greatest fucking poet alive...
I just read this a second time
And it was even better. This really is a fantastic piece of writing that puts a lot of my thoughts into (much more elegant) writing. Thank you Spencer.
as usual
your writing is unparalleled. a rec does not measure up, but i will gladly give mine to you, sir.
"sometimes i take humor seriously. sometimes i take seriousness humorously. either way, it is irrelevant." Mal-2
"if you can't get any enlightenment out of a situation, you might as well get some fun." Wiggs Dannyboy
by thetennesseethumper on Sep 2, 2011 9:23 AM EDT reply actions
Absolutely amazing.
2011........ The ACC will begin to once again witness the power that is FSU football!
My question is
what are you going to do about it? It is exquisite writing. But do you puff out your chest tonight in indignation, go to bed, and get up tomorrow and do the same old thing? Or do you change things? It is your choice. The world is not a television show. Presented solely for your entertainment. You can take part. What will you do?
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