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JADEVEON CLOWNEY ANNOUNCES COMMITMENT TO ENORMOUS SANDWICH

ROCK HILL, SC (AP)-- In a shocking turn of events this morning, number one-ranked high school football recruit Jadeveon Clowney spurned offers from the University of South Carolina and Clemson and announced his commitment to what he described as "this big-ass sandwich here."

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"I have consulted with my family, my friends, and my community, and I'd like to thank them and say I've got a lot of things ahead of me in life, but this big-ass sandwich has to come first." 

Clowney made the announcement in front of a crowded auditorium at South Pointe High School in front of 400 of his classmates and numerous assembled representatives of the media. His mother stood proudly at his right shoulder, and patted Clowney as he spoke.

"I was taught never to stop until I'd finished something. And right now, I haven't finished this sandwich."

The sandwich entered the recruiting race as a late, unplanned addition sometime late Monday night when a hungry Clowney traveled to a local sandwich shop for a meal.

"I did not anticipate the level of commitment this sandwich would require while I was ordering it, most especially not when I requested triple meat and double cheese."

When asked what the sandwich offered that Clemson and South Carolina could not, Clowney smiled and attempted to explain to a stunned crowd why he made his choice.

"Just look at it. There's all these meats, just hangin' off the end, and this cheese, and tomatoes, which I don't normally like because they get the bun and the meat all wet when you bit into 'em, but that's just how good this sandwich is. The tomatoes don't even bother me. Additionally, I'm drawn to its generous stacks of cheese, lettuce, and what I think are banana peppers, or maybe old jalapenos. It's hard to tell, but I'm still eating it." 

Clowney said he had no timeline for finishing the sandwich, but guessed that he might finish it sometime on Wednesday morning. Clowney suggested those interested in his school choices come back on "Wednesday morning-ish" to see how things were going with the sandwich, or "maybe just drop by and see how it's going later that day if I'm not around."

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Clowney: “I commit to Salami State!”

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by 49er16 on Feb 14, 2011 10:13 AM EST reply actions  

Duke?

"They've just discovered a new use for sheep over there at Clemson... wool." - Lewis Grizzard

by GwinnettGamecock on Feb 14, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I will fight him for that sandwich.

No, I’m in fact rather frustrated that I’m conscious at the moment. Why do you ask?

by Owls and Goephs and Craep on Feb 14, 2011 10:15 AM EST reply actions  

Well Sure

The sandwich offered him an opportunity to start right away.

I'm white and I don't dance but that doesn't mean I have all the answers.

by smk73 on Feb 14, 2011 10:20 AM EST reply actions  

That sandwich so bought Clowney right out from under Sakerlina.

I have it on good authority that funds from the Jimmy John’s family were siphoned through a Ken Fairley-owned convenience store in Columbia. They’re gonna gussy it up as some sort of charitable donation when, in reality, it’s all going to artisanal cheeses and shiny foil wrappers.

/tigerdroppings’d

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Feb 14, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd for Zoidberg reference

Futurama forever.

Sam Donaldson: Mr. President, in talking about the continuing recession tonight, you have blamed mistakes of the past, and you have blamed the Congress. Does any of the blame belong to you?

President Reagan: Yes, because for many years I was a Democrat.

by An 'eer with a beer on Feb 14, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd for Zoidberg...

though, I suppose it should be expected, given your name. Points for both!

"I think so, Brain, but how are we going to get the bacon flavoring into the pencils?"

by MikeLew on Feb 14, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Another zoidberg rec'

WOWOWOWOWOWOWOOWOWOO!

"Speak softly and wear a loud shirt" - Kimo's Rules

by greekpadre on Feb 14, 2011 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Per @IzzyGould

on teh Twitterz: “He did not pull a fighting Gamecock out and place it on his lap.” That’s really disappointing. Kid obviously needs to step up his game!

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by PBCrook on Feb 14, 2011 10:29 AM EST reply actions  

I'm not great with Wolfhounds

but he/she looks pissed. That looks like a show of teeth.

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by Londonjoe on Feb 14, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

That's more of a "I can't take it anymore"

It’s the same look you’d get waving an 8 ball in front of Dr. Rockso. It’s not quite pissed, but it’s not exactly non-threatening either.

"What Would Jesus Do? You're damn right he'd do a wheelie" ~ Daniel Tosh

by stempke on Feb 14, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

My dad's favorite game as a kid

How close can my hand get to my herd of Huskies’ food bowl before they get a similar look on their face

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by Londonjoe on Feb 14, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that Rowdy from Scrubs?

"Notre Dame is ascared of Auburn." - unknown

by ChemE93 on Feb 14, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I may frame that

I haven't a particle of confidence in a man who has no redeeming petty vices whatsoever
-Mark Twain

Also, Fuck Clemson.

by Gamecock2002 on Feb 14, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

and rec'd

I haven't a particle of confidence in a man who has no redeeming petty vices whatsoever
-Mark Twain

Also, Fuck Clemson.

by Gamecock2002 on Feb 14, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, ALWAYS

Sam Donaldson: Mr. President, in talking about the continuing recession tonight, you have blamed mistakes of the past, and you have blamed the Congress. Does any of the blame belong to you?

President Reagan: Yes, because for many years I was a Democrat.

by An 'eer with a beer on Feb 14, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

FUCKING REC'D

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by RjTheMetalhead on Feb 14, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Careful:

that sandwich may be possessed.

I read an article about it in . . . the Bible.

by saxattack29 on Feb 14, 2011 10:42 AM EST reply actions  

Isn't there an actual comic for that?

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by Londonjoe on Feb 14, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I swear I think Ike's up in the city offers this

"Well, if that ain't a show, I'll kiss your ass." - Gov. Jim Folsom Sr. (D-AL), 1948-52

by VandyImport on Feb 14, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

This hump columnist from the Rochester newspaper

Just got a tweet telling him that he should youtube Clowney’s high school highlights. He responded with a curt “Call me when he gets drafted.” YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE ENN. EFF. ELL. IS THE ONLY WORTHWHILE FOOTBALL ON THE PLANET AND ANYTHING ELSE IS IMMATERIAL BECAUSE IT WASN’T AT THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE LEVEL OF HUMAN COMPETITION THAT IS THE NATIONAL. FOOTBALL. LEAGUE. AND ANYONE WHO THINKS OTHERWISE IS STUPID AND HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAOWIEHYLSAKHFAKEJSHFLADJSHFLAJ

What a prick.

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by Peter Gray on Feb 14, 2011 10:43 AM EST reply actions  

Why would anyone from Upstate NY encourage people to watch the NFL

"What Would Jesus Do? You're damn right he'd do a wheelie" ~ Daniel Tosh

by stempke on Feb 14, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Teh Billz

would lose to oregon/Auburn/Alabama after they trade all their good cheap linemen for late round picks. This is only sort of a joke.

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"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
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by Londonjoe on Feb 14, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

They did...

The guy they converted from TE and was a franchise guy they had locked in long term whom they traded for late round picks.

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"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
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by Londonjoe on Feb 14, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Ahhh Jason Peters

He’s very talented, but extremely lazy. People just assume that was a horrible trade, but he’s basically been a revolving door for DeMarcus Ware and Justin Tuck since he got to Philly. They could’ve gotten more for him, but trading him wasn’t a bad idea.

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by Peter Gray on Feb 14, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

This is somehow a huge win for the Yankees' rotation

The 1-9 doesn't bother me; it's the disparity in gameday fashion sense.

by roger_t_shrubber on Feb 14, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

WHAT I WANT TO KNOW

IS HOW HE’S GOING TO HELP THE YANKEES THIS. YEAR.

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by Peter Gray on Feb 14, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

It's all part of the plan to get Liriano

Who you will get at least one year out of. He’s either a HoF pitcher (with HoF stuff), or his arm is going to fly off into the netting.

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"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair

by Londonjoe on Feb 14, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

HANDS OFF

Where’s that damn raegmonkey when you need him?

I've got this terrible pain in all the diodes down my left-hand side.
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by SpartanDan on Feb 14, 2011 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

We should have sent the monkey when the Mets wanted Santana.

Liriano can’t even hold Santana’s jock.

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by Go Big Rev on Feb 15, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

here ya go, Dan

mini RAEG MONKEY

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"I'm not taking sides in this Egypt thing until the Scorpion King gets involved."
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by CoastalCowbell on Feb 15, 2011 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

the Yankees offered Terrence Cody

a chance to pitch in spring training, too.

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"I'm not taking sides in this Egypt thing until the Scorpion King gets involved."
-FOTProgram

by CoastalCowbell on Feb 14, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I dunno... he meets the "huge" criteria...

but not the “flamed out former Cy Young winner that couldn’t muster it in the league for the last 4 years” criteria.

by purwho on Feb 14, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

filed under 'other':

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"I'm not taking sides in this Egypt thing until the Scorpion King gets involved."
-FOTProgram

by CoastalCowbell on Feb 14, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

You rang?

I don't care much about the Super Bowl, but I hope Ben Roethlisberger treats the Packers like a coed in a bathroom stall.

by Spartan D on Feb 14, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

What is

the Northeastern part of the United States, Alex?

GAHHHHH

by broski on Feb 14, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Rochester still exists?

Huh- who knew?

I don't care much about the Super Bowl, but I hope Ben Roethlisberger treats the Packers like a coed in a bathroom stall.

by Spartan D on Feb 14, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Just wait until there is a few games of precious NFL missed this fall with the lockout

Then that same columnist (and many of his comrades) will be enlightening us all with their new insight into Saturday football.

This reason alone is why I am hoping for labor peace in the pros.

"My idea of a perfect government is one guy who sits in a small room at a desk, and the only thing he’s allowed to decide is who to nuke. The man is chosen based on some kind of IQ test, and maybe also a physical tournament, like a decathlon. And women are brought to him, maybe ... when he desires them."

by the beefy ghost of prop joe on Feb 14, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

The Dolphins......

Remember when they invented that thing called “The Wildcat”?

"My idea of a perfect government is one guy who sits in a small room at a desk, and the only thing he’s allowed to decide is who to nuke. The man is chosen based on some kind of IQ test, and maybe also a physical tournament, like a decathlon. And women are brought to him, maybe ... when he desires them."

by the beefy ghost of prop joe on Feb 14, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Charlie Weis is a brilliant mind in the pros.

Just imagine what he can do at the college level.

by purwho on Feb 14, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

JAMAAAL. CHARLES.

makes the empty and half set look like genius.

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by Londonjoe on Feb 14, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

These kids have to go to class, people.

They love the game so much, they’re like a bunch of 18-22 year old Brett Favres having fun out there.

by purwho on Feb 14, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

What the fuck are these NFL-only assholes

gonna do when there’s no NFL this fall? I guess they’ll have to lower themselves to watching a superior product.

by BelmontVol on Feb 14, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

was waiting for this

One love. They were supposed to be meeting the clemson tiger to chill and relate for awhile cause things been so stressful lately

I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.

by sailorjerry on Feb 14, 2011 11:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

yep

Shit just got real

I've been in love (truly) with five women, the Spanish Republic and the 4th Infantry Division.

by sailorjerry on Feb 14, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

LSUfreek & Spencer

Thanks for making today more tolerable. Epic pic, awesome synopsis.

"Harvard of the South?" More like "Vanderbilt of the West"

by Sasquatch Love on Feb 14, 2011 10:46 AM EST reply actions  

ALL THAT YOU KNOW IS AT AN END.

A year from now when we get him out of prep school.

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by She Blinded Me With Violence on Feb 14, 2011 10:54 AM EST reply actions  

The highly anticipated album is finally here...

Atma Shatakam is World Music’s answer to thrash metal. “And God granted it” is their first release since the tragic death of their lead citaris, Amit Shahabitakhan, by opium overdose.

by touchdown H-town on Feb 14, 2011 10:55 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

RECCITY REC REC'D

points for creativity

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by Londonjoe on Feb 14, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey there, Pac-10 is supposed to be just as bitchy, because we’re just as honest and decent about the issue as the B1G.

Seriously, oversigning is bullshit.

by Erik T on Feb 14, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

HATERZ

We’ve sucked long enough doing things the right way so I say fuck it, let’s cheat. If not, what was the point of hiring Erickson?

My new professional goal is to make enough money to Lowder ASU into the BCSNCG.

by Big Jon on Feb 14, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I am glad my team does not do it. There is no pretending involved.

by Erik T on Feb 14, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

In most of our cases...

there’s no real difference between signing 25 3-star kids and 32 3-star kids… let’s be realistic.

by purwho on Feb 14, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Apparently I’m missing the point you’re trying to make.

by Erik T on Feb 14, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm thinking he was going for "If it's not going to help, why cheat?"

"What Would Jesus Do? You're damn right he'd do a wheelie" ~ Daniel Tosh

by stempke on Feb 14, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

This.

Either way, my team won’t be elite… so what would the point be?

by purwho on Feb 14, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it's a practice that needs to be stopped,

But until it is, I’m not going to be upset if Auburn oversigns. I would be pissed if we did the medical scholarship thing (other than Chaz Ramsey) because that’s a real shitty way to treat a kid.

by Tracy Rocker's Appetite on Feb 14, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Ruthless exploitation of the rules isn't cheating

If some of our Western Division brethern want to play hardball, that’s…well, it’s allowable.

Saying “Stop the practice” is easy but it’s a bit simplistic. Fearless Leader once reminded us that if all you have is a hammer, every problem looks liek a nail.Injuries, grades, qualifications and so forth all end up playing into this. Also, let’s drop this “deceiving the poor kids” routine. If a kid is gettign recruited, coaches have been looking at him for years. He knows it. His parents know, his HS coaches know it. The kid/parents/coaches have put together film reels, press kits and so forth all in pursuit of that goal of getting a I-A scholly at a major program.

Or, more succiently, when the kids stop going on ESPN froma press conference is when I’ll worry about 20 out of 120 schools playing rules lawyer.

by PalmettoTiger on Feb 14, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Doesn’t seem simplistic at all. Seems to work just fine in the B1G and Pac-10. You’d prefer to exploit a competitive advantage that results in kids getting fucked over. This suggests that your priorities are not near mine.

by Erik T on Feb 14, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

To summarize

It’s not a matter of cheating. It’s a matter of ethics.

Signing 28 when you have 25 to give = probably OK (assuming there are possible grade challenges, you’ve been honest to kids that might need to grayshirt, etc.)

Signed 25 when you have 15 to give = unethical. I would prefer not to ever see that at Auburn. We will probably find out next year.

Both are legal.

"Notre Dame is ascared of Auburn." - unknown

by ChemE93 on Feb 14, 2011 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess I fall on a little more stringent side of the equation...

Signing 28 when you have 25 to give is not OK to me, for several reasons:
1) I don’t think you should be assuming kids are going to fail out of school. I realize that they do, and fairly regularly, but to me, it sets a bad example as a coach and as a leader if you’re signing against that rather than enforcing classroom and studying discipline.

2) I don’t think anyone should sign players who won’t qualify. College and scholarships are both too precious and too burdensome to promise to someone who isn’t going to be ready for them. If you offer someone who ends up not qualifying to play, that punishment should fall on the coach and the institution, rather than the reverse of having two kids squeak through and one of them being punished.

If I were dictatorially in charge, the rule would be: Players on scholarship are publicly known at all times(that’s not a privacy law violation, given what you sign as a student athlete), and you must be at or below 85 at all times. 15 in, 15 out. If someone bails during the year, after scholarships are awarded, you can fill that spot next year, not with the previous class.

"I think so, Brain, but how are we going to get the bacon flavoring into the pencils?"

by MikeLew on Feb 14, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

You'd have a good point

If signing day was after graduation.

But there’s too many unknowns on the first Wednesday of February to be that strict about it and still give a fair shot to students willing to work hard in the end to qualify.

"Notre Dame is ascared of Auburn." - unknown

by ChemE93 on Feb 14, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

It may be that I'm being fairly elitist here...

I understand that I’ve never dealt with many situations that these young men have to deal with. However, if you’re waiting on your fourth quarter grades from your senior year of high school to get to the NCAA’s very low standards, then there are issues already.

Colleges accept and deny students based on 7 semesters of work, college athletics shouldn’t be different in that regard.

"I think so, Brain, but how are we going to get the bacon flavoring into the pencils?"

by MikeLew on Feb 14, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

The height of the standards has nothing to do with it

Schools won’t enroll kids that don’t meet a certain standard. For most schools, that’s the NCAA minimum. For others it isn’t. Either way, you’ve got to be able to predict that in advance. If Vandy won’t enroll anyone with an SAT under 1100, then should they not sign a kid with a 1080 that has several months left to improve the score?

Hoity toidy-ness on the requirements is a red herring.

Besides, colleges play the “maybe” game all the time for the general student admissions pool based on those 7 semesters.

"Notre Dame is ascared of Auburn." - unknown

by ChemE93 on Feb 14, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

When colleges play that game, they still have matriculate everyone that was accepted and sends in a deposit

If they have extra people, nobody gets kicked out of school. And, if you’re a coach at that school, you know the requirements and restrictions you’re working under. And, you’re using an extreme example there, also.

"I think so, Brain, but how are we going to get the bacon flavoring into the pencils?"

by MikeLew on Feb 14, 2011 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

It sounds like you literally mean you only want players

who would gain admission to Ohio State if they applied as regular students. You just eliminated 75% of your starters for the last generation. That policy is basically inviting the Sun Belt, WAC, and MAC to become the new power conferences. And Arizona State to run off a dozen PAC-10 titles in a row.

"They've just discovered a new use for sheep over there at Clemson... wool." - Lewis Grizzard

by GwinnettGamecock on Feb 14, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

RE "College and scholarships are both too precious and too burdensome to promise to someone who isn’t going to be ready for them."

If Ohio State and everyone else followed this to the fullest extent, college football would suuuuuck.

"They've just discovered a new use for sheep over there at Clemson... wool." - Lewis Grizzard

by GwinnettGamecock on Feb 14, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Ohio State has not offered several kids the last few years for academic reasons...

but that’s not really my point. And no, I’m not saying that there shouldn’t be waivers for athletes- that position is untenable in this day and age, for many reasons that you all know.

My only argument is that, if students are in trouble of not reaching the NCAA or conference’s minimum standard for a student-athlete, then they shouldn’t be signed to a letter of intent. Many schools follow this, so it shouldn’t be hard to enact. Certainly, some great football players will end up at JuCos or MAC/WAC/Sun Belt schools, but to me, as someone involved in education, the “sign and place” that has become so popular(see Nutt, Houston for the worst perpetrator) is anathema.

"I think so, Brain, but how are we going to get the bacon flavoring into the pencils?"

by MikeLew on Feb 15, 2011 2:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Also...

More problematic for me than the kid who sneaks in at the buzzer on the academic side is the kid who sailed through qualification, but loses his spot(to a grayshirt, to having his schollie pulled, to a borderline medical schollie, whatever way it happens) because of that kid sneaking through.

It’s not that I want to punish the kid who just barely made it academically, it’s that I want the NCAA to protect the guys who have done everything right, but may be slightly less talented on the football field.

If that takes moving signing day later in the academic calendar, then that works for me. I realize that brings up a new host of issues, but that’s not the point here.

I guess that, to me, it boils down to a relatively simple question of power, and I believe that there’s too much on the side of the coaches and not enough on the side of the players. The coaches are the guys who have a few secretaries and myriad academic assistants, assistant ADs, and SIDs who all get paid(in the case of the coaches, quite a bit of money most times) to make sure that a program is in compliance with all the rules. Certainly, the players aren’t completely naive to the situation, but they are “more naive” than the men and women running these programs.

Put another way, the 25/year rule is in place for a reason, and that’s at least partially to protect the players. However, the spirit of that rule is still being violated, in my opinion, and at the expense of the players, and I think that’s wrong and should be stopped.

And, FWIW, I agree that all the ESPN press conference, Three Hat Monty, etc. needs to go, but I’m less sure how to stop that. I don’t really follow recruiting, because the whole thing seems fairly skeevy to me, but the public seem to really enjoy it, so I don’t see it going away.

"I think so, Brain, but how are we going to get the bacon flavoring into the pencils?"

by MikeLew on Feb 15, 2011 2:36 AM EST up reply actions  

If you're just arguing against "sign and place"

then your comments above are way too broad.

"Notre Dame is ascared of Auburn." - unknown

by ChemE93 on Feb 15, 2011 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Not just arguing against sign and place...

arguing against “sign and place” and also against having more signatures and players on scholarship than the 85 rule, at any point in time.

Hell, if it were up to me, the scholarship level would be at 70, and the yearly rule at 19. That would create more interesting non-conference games, and be good for the overall health of both college football and college athletics as a whole(those 15 men’s scholarships could go to other sports that have died since Title IX)

"I think so, Brain, but how are we going to get the bacon flavoring into the pencils?"

by MikeLew on Feb 15, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't say that

ChemE93 had it closer. This idea of “oversigning” is mroe complex than it gets made out to be because coaches are also juggling numebrs based on who they think will be there next year. Also, these schollys aren’t for four years anyway. If you think my priorities aren’t yours, wll thaat’s fine. It doesn’t matter to me because neither one of us is a conference comissioner or a member of the NCAA. It’s not an issue at my school, as was pointed out below, so I stand by my original two points.

1) It’s not that easy or simple but then nothing is
2) I’ll be concerned about the 20 who “oversigned” as soon as these kids who are running their own systems stop having press conferences on ESPN.

by PalmettoTiger on Feb 14, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

1. It IS easy and simple. Show where the scholarship will come from. Several conferences have been doing this for years. Works fine. I don’t know how you can say “it’ll be hard to actually deal with this problem” when it has been dealt with already, in places that actually deign to attempt to solve it.

2. The ever-popular ‘look over there, they’re bad too!’ defense.

by Erik T on Feb 14, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh please

I’ll address your second point first. Bull. “Stop with the pretense that these kids are somehow shetler, naive innocents in thsi whole dealio.”

With your first point, you aren’t doing anything to “solve” this alleged problem then. “Hey kid, show me an improvement in your 40 time and hit the weights some more or you’re off the team.” There. Done. These are one year schollys and that’s all. When they are handed out in the fall, 85 get them. How does no one not know this?

by PalmettoTiger on Feb 14, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I’ve said enough for anybody willing to consider addressing problems. You’ve demonstrated you’re not, so good day to you sir.

by Erik T on Feb 14, 2011 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Good day, sir.

"They've just discovered a new use for sheep over there at Clemson... wool." - Lewis Grizzard

by GwinnettGamecock on Feb 15, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

FOUR MINUTES IN AND I'M #2?

The geography that I stands compares you superior

by Bourbon_Meyer on Feb 14, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

This whole thread may end up green.

by Erik T on Feb 14, 2011 11:27 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Like Auburn's signing day.

Or Ohio State’s post-Michigan win Saleapalooza.

"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
-Doug Heffernan, in regards to Arthur and his stamp needs

by Jon Ross on Feb 14, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

St. Ric Flair pray for us

Top tip: make sure you really HAVE saved your boss’s boss’s ass with a file recovery before you do the Ric Flair strut out of the room complete with “WOOOOOOOOOOO”

"Well, if that ain't a show, I'll kiss your ass." - Gov. Jim Folsom Sr. (D-AL), 1948-52

by VandyImport on Feb 14, 2011 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn, now I really want a sandwich...

The USC Cocks pay my bills but the LSU Tigers have my heart.

by Anthropologal on Feb 14, 2011 1:11 PM EST reply actions  

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