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AGGRO-TOURISM: ARKANSAS

Welcome to Aggro-Tourism, EDSBS's roaming safari tour of all those foreign cultures that spring up on fall Saturdays, right here in America. First up: The Arkansas Razorbacks, to whose fans you should never, ever give your email address. Just trust us on this.

Arkansas is a nation divided when it comes to the gameday scene. With the lopsided division of home games between Fayetteville and Little Rock, two distinct fan subcultures have sprung up around the wildly disparate sites. This first weekend, the Hawgs play host to Tennessee Tech on their campus proper, a matchup bound to make the already-soporific scene in Fayetteville downright idyllic. Students are hardly visible outside the Greek compounds before about two hours to kickoff, and thus confine most of the property damage to their own property. The general air dovetails more with Arkansas' proximity to the midwest than its place in the South, and the action is confined more to parties on Dickson Street than widespread tailgating among the lay people. Don't make the mistake of letting your guard down and acting the fool, however. This is a fanbase that openly roasts copies of its own mascot on a spit for human consumption. They may not look it, but they're a hard people.

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Intrepid fans Zac and Jerkwheat explain the genteel-ish culture surrounding the Fayetteville Saturday:

 

The unique thing about Arkansas is this is the Land of Walmart. Every company/brand that sells an item in Walmart is required to have an office here. With those companies comes their money (and their annoying midwest/eastern seaboard accents).  That money turns into sponsorship dollars for UofA and the Have’s. Coleman, Disney, Proctor & Gamble, etc., have their respective spots on campus come game day. I’m certain that these companies have corporate boxes/tailgates at stadiums across the country but those are usually pro events. This is little bitty Arkansas. Enrollment of 18k.
Because of the corporate tailgating experience in Fayetteville, liability comes into play with these brands/companies being tied to underage drinking, out of office misconduct, drunk driving and on and on. It’s big, expensive, controlled tailgating. As much as it can be. Eventually the alcohol wins.

If you really want to see some action, however, your best bet is to head to Little Rock for the LSU tilt on Nov. 27. Our trusty Arkansas correspondents explain:

Remember back when I said The Have’s reign in Fayetteville? Holy shit, not so in Little Rock. Tailgating takes place in approximately a 3x3 square mile radius. Every bumpkin from the far corners of the state comes to Little Rock because it’s in the middle of state.

 

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The red is A FUCKING 18 HOLE GOLF COURSE. I don’t know how they keep members after the partiers destroy this place but they do. (That grass is purty ain’t it?) There are 10x10 tents, pole to pole, lining this golf course, all 18 holes. With only enough room for walking up and down, once you’re parked in here, your in here come hell or high water. I say it’s bumpkins but it’s all types in this red area. Since it’s not university property, anything goes as long as it’s legal. And in some cases, illegal. Of course, it’s hard to spot incest without checking ID’s. The green area is where the Have’s play. This is still Old Money and your typical stuffy tailgaters. Back to the red area, you’ve never seen so many cops haul people off in your life. There are fights literally every time you turn around. A good portion of the people who tailgate in this area never make it to the game and some never had the intention of going (See also, The Grove). The inebriated wind up getting zip-tied, thrown in the back of a Ranger and hauled to a bus that will eventually run them "downtown."
Little Rock is the drunken, sloppy mess that SEC fans long for. Just replace a rowdy student section with a Rowdy Earl From Stuttgart section.  Pretty much everyone has their truck or RV parked on the golf course surrounding that 80 year old dump of a stadium (which I love dearly) and its just BBQ and beers the whole time. Little Rock is where the people from the more redneckish parts of the state (i.e. all areas that AREN'T Northwest Arkansas) come to get drunk and watch some football. The accents are deeper, the tobacco is dippin-er, and shit gets a whole lot trashier. It's Valhalla for hillfolk. There's a reason the 55K who cram into War Memorial sound way more intense than the 75K in Fayetteville - they ARE drunker and louder. I think Nutt started out like 19-1 in Little Rock games. I attribute that entirely to the drunkeness.

 

EDSBS DENIZENS RECOMMEND:

For sleeping: The Inn at the Mill in Johnson, or The Inn at Carnall Hall, right next to campus
For setup: In Fayetteville, around the baseball stadium or in the Gardens on Razorback Road.
For sustenance:
• Grub's Bar & Grille, 220 N West Ave.
• Hog Haus Brewing, 430 W. Dickson Street.
• The Catfish Hole, 4127  W. Wedington Dr.
• Oseguera's, 1100 48th Place in Springdale.

And just for funsies, here's a typical shopping list for what you'd need to truck in to compete with the Ozarks' finest:

Corporate tailgate setup:
40 suitcases of beer
At least 1 keg if you can hide it properly (UofA shut down kegs last season)
Pit Grill (trailer’d)
Enough meat to feed anywhere from 200-1500 people (depending on your location of traffic, time of game, and how friendly you get as the day goes on)
5-10 handles of brown water
Drinks for the kids
At least 1 flatscreen that fills up the back of your tahoe
Tailgating Trailer (there’s a company in Fayetteville making these custom trailers (pic attached) that have been popping up all over campus and now they sell them on Samsclub.com)
Table arrangement (flowers, candelabras, etc)
Tents either 4 tied together or one of those huge white Event Tents.

A typical setup for the Everyman in Little Rock:
3-6 cases of beer
1-2 handles of brown water
Grill or Pit Grill (The pit grills have grown to some kind of fucking competition. One showed up on 22’s last year. They’re actually gorgeous. I don’t know how people cook on them. I’d drive one of those fuckers.)
Drinks for the kids
Enough meat to feed anywhere from 10-200 people
Flatscreen TV/huge box TV
Sound System provided by factory truck system
And a couch. Out of every 10 couches/pieces of furniture brought to the golf course, 5 are left. Seriously. I don’t get it. Either something happened during the tailgating that resulted in ditching the couch or they lost  a member of their party and left it behind for him/her to sleep on till the course reopens on Sunday.

Many thanks to handsome, erudite readers Jerkwheat, Zac, and Merridee for massively entertaining interviews. Next week's subject: Iowa. Hawkeye bros, drop us a line at wolfbearclownshark-at-gmail if you'd like to contribute.

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I will give my shirt for Tennessee today.

by Holly Anderson on Sep 3, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am absolutely 100% convinced

that watching GUTS and Legends of the Hidden Temple growing up made me a better person.

/noooooo you dumbass that’s where the temple guard is he’s in the same place every single time awww dammit

Reczola.

Brian Kelly says no commercial interruption.

by Ancient Chinese Secret on Sep 3, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

another blast from the past there

by kizzak on Sep 3, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man, oh, man those were great shows.

by Chief Wahoo on Sep 3, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Motherfuckers ALWAYS got baffled by

the Shrine of the Silver Monkey. IT’S THREE PIECES, KID!!!

Pig Pen this here's Rubber Duck, and I'm about to put the hammer down.

by JimHalpert on Sep 3, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

The first "scripted reality television" perhaps?

Producers told them to struggle on purpose to make “better TV”?

by allicolls on Sep 3, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great

"Even the Swedes are fighting."-Randy Hahn

by 49er16 on Sep 3, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

always been treated very well in Fayetteville

will be heading up there 9/25. damn, it is a long drive. I would also like to make a food rec but I can’t remember the name of the place with the jello shot menu. Also, is it just me or do the ladies out on dixon street dress like dutch hookers? maybe it is just me. RTR.

by dirt sandwich on Sep 3, 2010 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

This is what ATP morphed into

I like it, and I’m glad you got to keep it going.

Sure do wish I could see what Synaesthesia posted, but the company’s web-filter is working overtime today after being off for the past two weeks.

"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke

by MtnEer_in_SC on Sep 3, 2010 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

We can cuss here!

And write much, much longer pieces. Looking forward to it.

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I will give my shirt for Tennessee today.

by Holly Anderson on Sep 3, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

How do they decide where the games are played?

That sounds like a shitty setup for broke students

by Twith on Sep 3, 2010 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

One scrub...

And either LSU or Mississippi St., depending on which one is a home game that season.

by dxf04 on Sep 3, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I fuckin hate Arkansas.

Not the school(I’m kinda indifferent there), but the state. More specifically, driving through it. Highway 71 can kiss my ass…GET A FUCKIN INTERSTATE BETWEEN FT. SMITH AND TEXARKANA!

Hadoken!!

by Brizzle T on Sep 3, 2010 2:51 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I-49

Might be done here in a few decades……..

by MexiHog on Sep 3, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I won't hold my breath.

Louisiana is starting on their side, though.

Hadoken!!

by Brizzle T on Sep 3, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I posit that I-40 between Little Rock and Memphis

is the worst stretch of interstate in America. Absolutely nothing to look at and 5 million truckers to drive around.

Pig Pen this here's Rubber Duck, and I'm about to put the hammer down.

by JimHalpert on Sep 3, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

That stretch of I-70 from Battle Mountain to Reno

might qualify for that too. ANd the five million truckers are hauling double and tripple trailers.

Sheesh, if you wanted to drive a traiun, work for the railroad.

"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke

by MtnEer_in_SC on Sep 3, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmm, kin ya tail I bin drankin

"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke

by MtnEer_in_SC on Sep 3, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think

I like that spelling of tripple better anyway.

Brian Kelly says no commercial interruption.

by Ancient Chinese Secret on Sep 3, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too

it makes it seem like more

Nick Saban is my BFF

by cowcollege on Sep 3, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Au contraire.

I-55 between St. Louis and Chicago.

Brian Kelly says no commercial interruption.

by Ancient Chinese Secret on Sep 3, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will submit the soul crushing 400 miles

Of I-5 (or “the 5” per the locals) between LA and Sacramento. My grandfather in law says it smells like money. I say that’s a funny way to pronounce “shit.”

by chizwhiz on Sep 3, 2010 5:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

That looks an awful lot

like I 94 west of Fargo. And I 90 west of Sioux Falls. Not to mention I 80 west of York, NE.

/Nebraska boy – askairt of hills
//also trees
///not really

"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther

by Go Big Rev on Sep 3, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I-90 at least has sunflowers in the summer.

But otherwise, yeah, it’s pretty craptastic. Then again, pretty much every mile of highway in Illinois that isn’t in Chicago is. I-39 between Rockford and Bloomington and I-57 all the way down to Memphis = BORING.

by SpartanDan on Sep 8, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Illinois is underappreciated for how incredibly flat it is.

Everyone always thinks of Kansas and the Plains States as being that way, but I think you can actually see the back of your own head on the other end of existence when driving through the Land of Lincoln.

"Got a bill that's big enough to twist the Tiger's tail. Husked some corn and made those SORRY HUSKERS BAIL!"

by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Sep 3, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not only is it flat...

But it’s also desolate. You can drive 2 hours in any direction from Champaign-Urbana and see absolutely nothing. But, then, all of a sudden, Bam! Chicago/Indy/STL pops up, and you don’t feel so alone in the world anymore.

by dxf04 on Sep 3, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh god

Getting through Memphis was a nightmare. I’m convinced the engineers designed it that way so that they could someday summon Zuul.

by Gaknar on Sep 3, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

YES!

I 55 in Memphis is horrible.

Gregatron is not responsible for any of the crap he just wrote.
St. Louis vegetarian blog

by Gregatron on Sep 3, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not enough porn shops?

"Got a bill that's big enough to twist the Tiger's tail. Husked some corn and made those SORRY HUSKERS BAIL!"

by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Sep 3, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I co-sign

Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?

by jd is legend on Sep 3, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jebus H. Tebow, ain't that the truth.

We hit it at Brinkley (after a tour through Poverty U.S.A., aka 49 through the Delta), and all the way to Little Rock it’s nothing but flat, with shitty bumps, cracked asphalt, and truckers hopped up on amphetamines and hallucinating that they’re the Snowman with Ol’ Fred in the shotgun seat.

Past Little Rock, the drive to Conway and parts beyond would be lovely if it weren’t for the rush hour traffic bringing everything to a grinding halt.

Yes, I live in Starkville...WHO did I piss off in a past life?

by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Sep 3, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same here.. I've always wondered but never bothered to ask.

"In case you're wondering what the offense should look like, that wasn't it." - Urban Meyer

by cantcatchuf on Sep 3, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of rich boosters live there

And it also helps the university in several ways. They get more students/money/fans from all around the state since LR is in the middle of the state geographically speaking

by MexiHog on Sep 3, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some, but not all, of the same reasons

that Alabama used to play home games both at Bryant Denny and Legion Field in Birmingham.

Nick Saban is my BFF

by cowcollege on Sep 3, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Ole Miss

played half their games at Veterans Memorial Stadium in Jackson until the 1990s…we used to play the Egg Bowl there, especially a stretch from 1973 to 1990 (it’s where the “Immaculate Deflection” happened in ’83). Probably stopped due to booster demands, money, or crime in Jackson, but with all the expansions and additions, now Vaught-Hemingway and Davis-Wade are far better facilities.

cowcollege, wasn’t Legion Field literally falling apart? I understand they stopped playing the Iron Bowl there because it had become a safety hazard?

Yes, I live in Starkville...WHO did I piss off in a past life?

by Queen Hoka-Hotty-Toddy on Sep 3, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure about literally falling apart. The place is just kinda shitty and in a bad neighborhood. And Bryant Denny has been getting so much better over the years. When I was a kid there were years when all bama games were at Legion because BD was being renovated.
Stopped playing the IB there because even though tickets were attempted to be distributed evenly to both AU & UA fans, the IB every year was much more like a home game to UA than AU. Us WarTigers bitched a lot about that and got the game to the Plains and rightly so.
Someone will correct me if anything I’ve typed is wrong due to my less than reliable memory or due to my being too lazy to get “facts”.

Nick Saban is my BFF

by cowcollege on Sep 3, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

After typing that and driving home I realized

I failed to mention that the Iron Bowl is THE best rivalry game in all of CFB. I’m proudly shooting that flare that explodes into a huge red baboon ass into the air. Your arguments fall on deaf ears.
GAME DAY SATURDAY TOMORROW I CAN’T WAIT THAT LONG ALL THE ARRANGEMENTS ARE SET GOT PLENTY OF BEER HELL YEAH WOOOOOOOOOOOOO WAREAGLE!!!

Nick Saban is my BFF

by cowcollege on Sep 3, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

I’d love to attend an Iron Bowl some day so I could make an informed decision. But until I can make it there, I’m going to have to stick with the Big Game as the best rivalry game.

Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?

by Cugel on Sep 3, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is no more Iron Bowl

The Iron Bowl occurred in B’ham, a steel town. Now that it is home and home, I don’t consider it to be the Iron Bowl anymore (bowl games are played on neutral fields). We need to think of a new name.

by Another damn Dan on Sep 3, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blasphemy

That doesn’t matter.

Nick Saban is my BFF

by cowcollege on Sep 4, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

DOES TOO

/stick tounge out

Bull Sullivan "Toughest Coach there ever was"

by Another damn Dan on Sep 5, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Legion Field

actually did start falling apart. They had to take the upper deck down because large pieces of concrete would fall off of it. Of course, now UAB uses it….of course they only get about 6K folks to show up for games.

When State played UAB at Legion Field, there were more State fans than UAB and it was n’t even close.

by MSUDoginAL on Sep 3, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why games are played in Little Rock

It’s a good six hours from Eudora (SE corner) to Fayetteville (NW corner), whereas Little Rock is pretty much 3.5 hours from anywhere in the state, so you’re staying overnight if you’re attending the game from the far reaches of the state. Fayetteville hotels also adopt a policy (called “extortion”) where you have to rent the hotel room for a two night minimum during game weekends, so you either pay double for the hotel or spend two nights away from home.

They used to split the games evenly between Fayetteville and Little Rock, but when the university expanded the stadium from 49k to 75k in 2000, they wanted to move more games to Fayetteville because they’d make more money. When that happened, the Little Rock contingent tried to get the state legislature involved, and all sorts of rich boosters threatened to withhold contributions to force the games to stay in Little Rock. Of course, there were plenty of rich people in Fayetteville arguing the other way. As expected, the students had absolutely zero say in the matter because they’ve already given all their money to the university. The “Great Stadium Debate” (as it was called at the time) ended with a 5-2 split between Fayetteville and Little Rock with a guarantee that Little Rock would always get the LSU game.

Basically, it all boils down to the fact that people don’t want to drive all the way up to Fayetteville and get their wallets raped while they’re there.

P.S. The best restaurant in Fayetteville is Doe’s Eat Place on Dickson Street. Grub’s and Hog Haus are nice, but the steaks at Doe’s are amazing.

by the_ed_dawg on Sep 4, 2010 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

P.S. The best restaurant in Fayetteville is Doe’s Eat Place on Dickson Street.

…which is a chain restaurant from Mississippi. I think that about sums it up.

Also, I’m pretty sure every hotel in every college town with less than 75,000 people requires a two night minimum for home game weekends. That isn’t something new.

Pig Pen this here's Rubber Duck, and I'm about to put the hammer down.

by JimHalpert on Sep 4, 2010 3:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Doe’s is NOT the best restaurant on Dickson (not even close). Although I like their Tamales for an appetizer and Porterhouse for main course as much as the next guy, either Theo’s American Kitchen or Bordinos is far better. The amazing wine lists at both restaurants is also a big plus.

http://www.theosfayetteville.com/
http://www.bordinos.com/

by Jim Grizzle on Sep 4, 2010 5:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Forgot to mention…

Another favorite meal of mine if I’m stumbling out of George’s Majestic Lounge on Dickson at 2am is right across the street…an Italian Nightclub at Jimmy Johns. No wine list, though.

by Jim Grizzle on Sep 4, 2010 5:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

My cousin lives in Little Rock

She married an investment manager, so she’s probably partying with the Haves.

by Eric Angevine on Sep 3, 2010 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

…shouldn’t that be “was” partying with the Haves?

not drunk, just overserved

by Gen. Stoopnagle on Sep 3, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Hope all y'all haz

a glorious holiday weekend full of drunken debauchery and CFB!

and I mean that most sincerely…
Oh, by the way, which one’s Pink?

"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke

by MtnEer_in_SC on Sep 3, 2010 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Thank you kind sir....

recommendation noted and followed.
Just got home from work, and poured myself a splash of Highland Park 12 year.
The scent is intoxicating

by Spartan D on Sep 3, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

This post is incomplete

without scores for average hotness and sluttiness of the womenfolk. Plz include std. dev. as well.

The new year approaching, click in. Let’s facelift bar! Open the wardrobe is not yet found love after another the right clothes? So, also waiting for? Immediate action bar!

by Old South on Sep 3, 2010 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

compared to the rest of the SEC, average

compared to Davidson, the Likert scale doesn’t have enough points to illustrate the difference.

"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair

by Londonjoe on Sep 3, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

How 'bout compared to College of Charleston women?

"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke

by MtnEer_in_SC on Sep 3, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey now

The Davidson girls have it soooo hard. I mean, they walk into a situation where they’re surrounded by wealthy, intelligent, well-dressed, exceedingly well-mannered, mature, generally athletic, kind gentlemen. What’s a girl going to do to repay that besides come to school hot, get fat, real fat, then sabotage incoming freshmen classes until they do likewise?

/bitter

The new year approaching, click in. Let’s facelift bar! Open the wardrobe is not yet found love after another the right clothes? So, also waiting for? Immediate action bar!

by Old South on Sep 3, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

How on earth????

did Ole Miss just pull that off? Who hears the appeals of the NCAA? Isn’t it just the NCAA? Did they have time to sleep on it and just unilaterally change their minds? Maybe theivery and weed isn’t that bad afterall?

by Wes Tex on Sep 3, 2010 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Three days to handle this appeal,

yet weeks later North Carolina still doesn’t know if they’ll have enough players to even fill a charter bus to Atlanta.

by OHokie on Sep 3, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, OHokie, dat'sa sad

but then again, Ole Miss is SEC and UNC is ACC. Tarheels would haz priority if’n it were bassetball season.

"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke

by MtnEer_in_SC on Sep 3, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gonna play it, can't believe no one's done it yet:

ESS EEE SEE SPEEEEEEED!

"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther

by Go Big Rev on Sep 3, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Can't spell "arbitrary" without NCAA

If you use the SEC spelling thusly:

The NCAA’s rulings are fucking arbitrary.

by chizwhiz on Sep 3, 2010 6:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Not a terribly accurate piece.....

…what’s entailed in this post is pretty much a Little Rock fan perspective only; they cling to those last two games, while the program loses millions of dollars of revenue by playing in the Rock, complaining that Fayetteville is a wine-and-cheese crowd, and barking about the team record in LR— but then again, when you bring up that one game every other year against a team with a pulse is played there, they don’t like it at all. That’s before even touching the way it kneecaps recruiting visits, because LR is not an on-campus visit— so if Arkansas gets on a recruit very late, they can’t get them on-campus for a game frequently, because the season usually closes with a ‘home’ game in Little Rock.

ut, hey— ULM needs a contractual home game to meet NCAA attendance figures, so I guess they’ll add that to the Great Little Rock Record and claim it’s a dominant place for the Hogs to perform on the road, too.

by EireHog on Sep 3, 2010 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Only if accurate information...

is being “butt-hurt”?
Believe it or not, but arguments exactly like this happen on Arkansas message boards daily.

by dxf04 on Sep 3, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

2.1 million a game by a 3rd party estimate....

…in lost revenue; hampered recruiting. Millions of dollars of additional revenue lost to things like a press-box makeover (a nice 7.3 million in Little Rock subsidy this year); being the last program on Earth that thinks splitting limited home dates is such an awesome idea that it is still done, despite playing in front of 20,000 fewer fans a week.

Alabama and Ole Miss are forward thinking, compared to what Arkansas does.

The funniest part? People actually have called for a multi-million dollar stadium upgrade to bring LR up to SEC standards—- a burden that would fall on taxpayers.

Arkansas was extremely fortunate to have Jerry Jones in the alumni pipeline— the money game in JerryWorld is softening the financial blow for the next 10 years, but the end is in sight for Little Rock games, from all indications out of the Athletic Department.
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The current agreement to play in LR lasts through 2016. The Head Coach has described playing in LR as a ‘Have to’ arrangement, and has noted repeatedly that games in Little Rock require road-game procedure, and has been carefully neutral when confronted about whether or not Little Rock should figure into the program’s future.

Maybe Florida will start playing 2 games a year in the rubble of the Orange Bowl, so another SEC program can know what it feels like.

by EireHog on Sep 4, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

LR games are not going to end if Warren Stephens and his cronies make up the revenue lost difference. This is why AD Jeff Long extended the olive branch with the extension to 2016.

by Jim Grizzle on Sep 4, 2010 5:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Please chill Brah

I’ll agree that the Fayetteville description isn’t entirely accurate – I’ve never noticed much of a corporate feel (aside from being bombarded by commercials during the game – seriously that shit’s gotta stop y’all. I’m not buying Tony chacheri’s no matter how many times you tell me).

But the LR description is entirely accurate. The golf course is insane – burning couches, tents with disco balls, morally challenged ladies – it’s all there. I haven’t parked there in a few years (//removes monocle, hangs fancy parking pass) but I’m sure it’s still the same – prolly worse. Ah to be young again.

Don’t let the description scare you though – most hog fans are good people and will gladly provide you with cocktails and any info you might need, whether in Fayetteville or LR.

I’m not even touching your points on the stadium debate. As my astute colleague dxf04 points out, that shit has been debated ad nauseum and there’s no need to bring it up here.

by trip andrews on Sep 3, 2010 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

The GSD is nasty...

It’s mostly posturing, ect. But, the one thing I’ll never get over is… we have to pay rent to play in WMS.

by dxf04 on Sep 4, 2010 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Once I realized years ago the Great Stadium Debate is a mere subset pissing match between Central AR folks and NW AR folks, it reminded me of two midgets arguing which one was tallest. It’s incredibly petty and rooted in immature emotion.

The good news if you didn’t grow up here is you can laugh at BOTH sides perpetuating the pissing match.

by Jim Grizzle on Sep 4, 2010 5:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Goddamn this laptop keyboard

Third fucking time trying to post my thoughts on the Hogs. Fuck it, I guess I’m too drunk.

by Another damn Dan on Sep 3, 2010 11:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Later shown to have been vandalized by thieves, not fans....

….and repairs were at least in part paid for by donations from Arkansas fans (particularly the LR crew, who deserve credit for making things right), who felt the whole sorid story reflected poorly on the state.

The two folks involved pled out, one spent some time in jail, and the other was fined, as their vandalism was not contained to just that van.

by EireHog on Sep 4, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fayetteville tailgaters don’t drunkenly desecrate a golf course, but we do alright where I park my ass on game day (http://www.hogparking.com/). Bourbon, BBQ cooked all night, 4 plasmas watching 4 different games in High Def, REAL restrooms as opposed to blue outhouses, and a stripper pole for after the game entertainment.

by Jim Grizzle on Sep 4, 2010 5:39 AM EDT reply actions  

I want to party with you man

You and me, fugetaboutit

Bull Sullivan "Toughest Coach there ever was"

by Another damn Dan on Sep 5, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

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