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THE CURIOUS INDEX, 7/27/2010

THE PAC 10 REBRANDS WITH WESTERN MOUNTAIN SURFISH STUFF. if you rotate it 90 degrees to the right, it kind of looks like an angry yelling cartoon face telling the PAC to talk to the hand. 

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It is snazzy enough, and an improvement on the bland "Conference of Spikes" logo they didn't use on fields, jerseys, or anything else until Larry Scott got there and realized that his predecessor, Tom Hansen, was still relying on the lucrative telegraph rights of games to come through in order to bolster the conference's finances. (This television thing will surely pass, just as jazz, fizzy drinks, and the horseless carriage did.)  Mock Scott for overreaching with the Pac-16 proposal, but the man was pitching a space-age idea from a biplane, apparatus-wise, something Andy Staples details nicely in his piece on Scott's revamping of the Pac (not Pacific) Ten. Care to know why you were missing some of the fine football played on the West Coast? The Pac-10 demanded more money to "mirror" games on ESPN alternate networks, and thus missed broadcasting their product to half the nation. They no longer do this because they have decided to "give a shit," which while not listed in Staples' article is certainly on their slate of things to do. 

We're not so sure about their eyeing Asia as a growth market, though the formation of Competitive Smoking Teams would certainly appeal to the China markets. You'd die trying to beat them, but sometimes competition is about sacrifice. 

AT THIS POINT YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY BE SURPRISED. Lane Kiffin and USC are being sued by the Tennessee Titans, but you already knew that, or at least some part of you in your bones saw this, realized it was inevitable, and then nodded as you heard the gears of the universe click in place. Kiffin will be defended by himself in court, where he will end up in contempt of court within three words of opening his mouth, and then will be beaten in a holding cell when he pisses off his cellmates in the first five minutes of his stay. He will then be released on bond and fall dick-first into a gutter filled with money and beautiful women, because this is what seems to happen to Lane Kiffin. 

LINT ROLLER IN ONE HAND, HOPE IN THE OTHER . Maurice Clarett is re-enrolling at Ohio State, and this is said without an ounce of snark: we sincerely wish him the best, since anyone who can lie with Israeli gangsters, end up in prison, show up drunk to NFL tryouts, and somehow survive has to have some nugget of the indestructible and enduring in him. 

OHHH, SWEET PLEASURE. The ACC Preseason poll has been incorrect in picking a conference winner since 2005. Oh, Carolina March. Please tickle our ivories.  

The ACC media hasn't picked the correct winner of the Atlantic Division since 2005, mostly because they keep picking FSU, and FSU keeps failing.

....ohhh, that's the spot. Harder. HARDER WE SAY.

MY THAT IS IRONIC. On Day One of the Big 12 Media Days, the Insight Bowl handed out free swag containing, of all logos, the Big Ten's logo in huge threaded glory on the side of the hat.  Dave, make your bed before you shoot video, you rapscallion you! (At least there's no lotion on the bedside.) 

FIRST, WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE THEM CARE ABOUT COLLEGE FOOTBALL. Man, if we could just secure that Mexico City market, or maybe Tokyo--either is as likely as getting the New York metro area to care about college football en masse, but you jump right in there, Jim Delany. 

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New York metro-area fans in college football: Do. Not. Want.

As far as Clarett goes, best of luck to the man. Hopefully all these positive signs continue and his life turns out to be an epic redemption story fit for a made-for-TV movie.

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by Old South on Jul 27, 2010 10:01 AM EDT reply actions  

NYC metro can eat a bag of dicks

they can take their skinny jeans to the coffee shop to watch soccer.

by Onestatewest on Jul 27, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fine.

We’ll do that if you wear your cargo shorts and goatees to the Tchotchke’s or Flinger’s to watch MMA. And for the love of god, when you come here, please continue to never leave Times Square.

by now_a_hoo on Jul 27, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

What is this, 'nam?

Kill me if you ever see me rocking cargo shorts or a prison pussy. When I go to NYC, I strictly stick to bars not serving hot mugs of smug. There is plenty of fun in NYC and a lot of my friends but as a whole, CFB needs not. CFB in NYC is the commish’s El Dorado.

by Onestatewest on Jul 27, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

It'd be a cash cow to get more cable companies carrying the BTN

You accomplish this by adding Pitt and ND (not Rutgers, which no one cares about). Plenty of people already care about CFB here. The number of UM, tOSU and UF bars here would astound you.

As for the cargo shorts: I don’t wear skinny jeans either. We were stereotyping for fun and profit. And if Akron hadn’t gacked up the NCAA final (to my Hoos), NE Ohioans would have little trouble caring mildly about soccer.

by now_a_hoo on Jul 27, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Size really DOES matter

Even a small percentage of people in the NYC area is a large absolute number, which is a good thing. One could also argue the reverse since even a large absolute number is only a small pecentage of NYC households. That is not so good.

by PalmettoTiger on Jul 27, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Even the Disney Kids are against skinny jeans

I was watching with my kid yesterday, and they had a little song-and-dance PSA about getting rid of skinny jeans. It’s about time someone stood up to the hipster menace!

by Spartan D on Jul 27, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I never thought I'd say this, but Mo Clarett really is one good novel, two entertaining dinners with Kissinger . . .

and three Hollywood starlets from being a Digital Viking patron saint. He’s already survived the Israeli mafia, had a civil case appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court, been a candidate for the Heisman as a freshman, been arrested for armed robbery outside a place called “The Opium Lounge”, and been separately detained with a katana and a loaded AK-47, he’s already checked most of the hard stuff off the membership application. Now if he’d just pick up a stubborn disease while planning a diamond heist in Tunisia, he’d be undeniably spicy.

by MaconDawg on Jul 27, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

No style points

Clarett lacks the “intent” to be spicy enough for the DV. All of the, um, “accomplishments” on his resume have been achieved via stupidity or bad luck, aside from his great freshman year. Patron saints may not seek every spicy achievement they unlock, but they certainly get there through more than a simple lack of criminal skill.

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by Ronnie D on Jul 27, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

The best way to get NYC fans to care about CFB

is to market hats (and jerseys of course) using the same technology found in those rolling billboards. That way the sports “fans” of NYC can change their favorite team every week in tandem with the newest #1 in the weekly polls.

by GwinnettGamecock on Jul 27, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

The only way to interest New Yorkers in flyover country football

would be to treat the games like MST3K treated old sci-fi movies or Spike treats Japanese game shows, and use camera shots and external dialogue to relentlessly mock the hordes of Midwesterners at the games.

If the games were presented as exotic redneck spectacle they might stand a chance

by An 'eer with a beer on Jul 27, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

As usual, Nebraska is ahead of the curve on this one:

"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther

by Go Big Rev on Jul 27, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

that may be the first time

the words “ahead of the curve” and “Nebraska” were ever uttered in a sentence.

"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero

by Stuck in the Plains on Jul 27, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Weight training, spread option, academic-athletic facilities,

need I say more?

This, however, was intended to be every bit as sarcastic as it appears.

"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther

by Go Big Rev on Jul 27, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

partial qualifier abuse?

"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero

by Stuck in the Plains on Jul 27, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

helping kids get a chance?

You say potAYto, I say poTAHto…

"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther

by Go Big Rev on Jul 27, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're just mad...

….cuz they don’t have keys to jangle on a key 3rd down

by Spartan D on Jul 27, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Key Plays...

apparently this annoyance is not unique to the Fighting Gobblers of VPISU

by TangoHotelWhiskeyGolf on Jul 27, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

that 3rd DUI will get you every time...

I am surprised, though, that the Michigan Dept of Corrections has yellow work release uniforms…

"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero

by Stuck in the Plains on Jul 27, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they had a NFL game in Mexico City a few years ago that drew 100,000 fans

Football (our ’Merican football, of course) may not be really popular abroad, but I think those occasional exhibition games bring a big crowd and increase exposure.

by Cantabrigian_UGA_Fan on Jul 27, 2010 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Mexico City Bowl Game?

Could you imagine the Fulmer Cup potential?

by Spartan D on Jul 27, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

They did

9ers vs. Cardinals, both teams sucked at the time.

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by skywaker9 on Jul 27, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am hoping that Maurice Clarett has turned his life around and this is an ongoing step in the right direction

That said, if he wants to be a grad assistant in charge of teaching ball stripping skills, I might be tempted to say maybe. I agree that his life is a movie waiting to happen. It just needs a happy ending and I’m not talking in the massage palor sense.

by Crabapple Buck on Jul 27, 2010 10:26 AM EDT reply actions  

I hope the kid gets his life together too.

He had such a great talent to flame out the way he did.

"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke

by MtnEer_in_SC on Jul 27, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

flame out?

it wasn’t a whimper… it was a sweet, sweet wreck to witness while saying, “holy shit, i’m glad i’m not this guy, but this shitshow sure is fun to watch…”

by Cocky Scar on Jul 27, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

To flame out is not whimpering

It is what happens just before your jet air machine impacts terra firma with devastating results usually involving fireballs.

"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke

by MtnEer_in_SC on Jul 27, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m embarrassed to live in Pac-10 country and root for Cal.

"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow

by 49er16 on Jul 27, 2010 10:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Don't worry

Most Cal fans are embarrassed to do so.

by SEC Supremacist on Jul 27, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

True

We’re realists, we know our team stinks.

"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow

by 49er16 on Jul 27, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's easier that way

We think every year that we’ll be awesome. And then we get to November, and sales of Natty Lite and PBR skyrocket.

by SEC Supremacist on Jul 27, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, no, college football is THAT close to catching on in NYC

Look at all those kids in New York who go to college. And Rutgers! Rutgers is good(ish) now! That’s the next generation that’s FINALLY going to make college football popular in New York! All they need is a big, washed-up star to transfer to a New York-area college, and they’ll go nuts for it, I tell ya.

by Golden Hand on Jul 27, 2010 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

The Bos-Wash-NY corridor

is a dead zone. Sure, the Catholics get up for their 8-4 seasons in the ACC, and Rutgers fans are one step removed from Westboro Baptist, but realistically, the sport has had no traction since Roosevelt. Teddy that is.

"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero

by Stuck in the Plains on Jul 27, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Abridge the south end to about Wilmington and you've got it.

Maryland isn’t quite as unaware as the rest of that crowd, and once you get into VA, we start caring.

That 17-year-old Hokie sitting in the Greensboro Coliseum rafters in 1997 didn't see any of this coming.

by JoshCVT on Jul 27, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure that Philly

is into college football. Penn State, Temple and even WVU get good coverage up there.

by An 'eer with a beer on Jul 27, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure you've never lived in Philly

I do. They know as much about college football as I do about hockey. I’ve had lifelong Pennsylvanians ask me what conference Penn State plays in, and that was during a top 15 season.

by GwinnettGamecock on Jul 27, 2010 2:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well, my evidence was anecdotal

based on my in-laws up there… who are all WVU fans…

[sigh]

by An 'eer with a beer on Jul 27, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have been told

that the real college football fans can be found in greater numbers as you travel west across the state, but Philadelphia is definitely a typical MLB/NFL/hockey town.

by GwinnettGamecock on Jul 28, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

It almost looks like an act of desperation for Delany...

if he really is trying to get NYC motivated about CF to combat the population exodus from the Midwest. . He might as well try to sell tractors up there. I bet was he really is thinking is that NYC is a place fanbases would be motivated to go to and is a place with alot of alumni more than an attempt to drum up more interest in CF.

BTW, Buzz Lightyear approves of the new Pac 10 logo.

by meatybob on Jul 27, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, consider this

That NY Post story has one comment on it, from a Fordham fan. #Ithinkthataboutcoversit.

by Golden Hand on Jul 27, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does "To Infinity...And Beyond!"

refer to unlimited adventures, or unlimited teams in the conference?

"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther

by Go Big Rev on Jul 27, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOW

How about the early a.m. post time. For most people, date/time stamps are damning – not redeaming as they are for Fearless Leader

by PantslessPatDye on Jul 27, 2010 11:02 AM EDT reply actions  

9:56 a.m. is early?

Fearless Leader, like all right-thinking people, operates on EDT, while his server toils away in benighted PDT.

by Golden Hand on Jul 27, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

EDT aka God's Time

Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.

by gtne91 on Jul 27, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

You appear to be confused.

Central is God’s time zone. That’s why our NFL games start at Noon and our weeknight sports at 7.

Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.

by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Jul 27, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ahem

Pacific Time: NFL @ 10 am. CFB starts @ 9 am. “Late” games at 7 pm.

Your argument is invalid.

by ESS EEE SEE Speed on Jul 27, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahem.

/tries to make a comment about higher priorities on Sunday morning without offending anyone
//tries again
///tries a third time
////being Trinitarian, figures three attempts is a sign to just drop it already
/////backs away from comment slowly…

"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther

by Go Big Rev on Jul 27, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

They have a short service that starts at 8 am here, just for the football fans. Religion, for the drive-thru generation.

Also, for those of us who also watch playoff basketball, baseball and occasionally, hockey, games are done by 9 pm-ish. When I lived on the east coast and worked for a living, the second half of MNF and the World Series was not an option.

by ESS EEE SEE Speed on Jul 27, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

When I was in SD....

….my church had a 7pm service on Sunday that had more people than the early morning ones.
I absolutely loved the early morning football. Now that I’m back in the midwest, I have to figure out what to do with myself on Saturday mornings before the 11am games start (I have a kid, so sleeping in isn’t an option anymore)

by Spartan D on Jul 27, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Higher priorities on Sunday morning.

Hangover management?

/only keeding
//for you, that is
///but seriously, hangover management is an important life skill

Brian Kelly says no Spicy Sea Nuggets.

by Ancient Chinese Secret on Jul 27, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Having been born and raised in the Northeast,

educated in the Midwest and now living out West, I have to agree with this.

It’s going to make it hard to move back to the Central or Eastern Time Zones on Saturdays in the fall.

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by D-Sing on Jul 27, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel the opposite

I was in California for one college football weekend, and I was appalled at a game start of 9AM. For any reasonable human being, emphasis on reasonable human being, that’s way too early to start drinking, and then what do you have for the late afternoon games? Either the PAC-10 (please) or a prime-time game from back East, which is still only a 4 or 5 start time.

No thanks. Give me Eastern or Central (Central does seem to be the optimum) times, when you can get a few things done in the day before abandoning yourself to the bacchanalia.

by An 'eer with a beer on Jul 27, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I struggle to wake up by 9am on saturdays

Drinking that early, however, has never been a problem

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by Old South on Jul 27, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

Planning, discipline, etc.

by Grib on Jul 27, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The 9 am game is usually some random Big 10 or ACC game on ESPN or an SEC game online….it’s just a warmup for the 12:30 ESS EEE SEE action. No big deal if you sleep in and wake up for the second half, and bonus, wake up and there’s football on => teh awesome.

The 12:30 game ends around 3:30 or 4:00, and then you’ve got only 30 minutes until the 4:30 pm (7:30 est) ESPN2 game for late afternoon.

There is absolutely no downside to this.

by ESS EEE SEE Speed on Jul 27, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very little downside to CFB in general from my perspective:

Thursday night = football.
Friday night = H.S. football or perhaps the rare college game.
All day Saturday = football
Sunday = church, then football, but of an inferior aesthetic.

When my church folks in Minnesota worried about Sunday worship interfering with a noon kickoff (which it never did, but Vikings fans need to turn on the TV BEFORE all their hopes are squashed mercilessly), I reminded them that the best football had all taken place the day before. No one understood. Which likely explains a lot about Golden Gopher football.

"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther

by Go Big Rev on Jul 27, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh

Advantage NFL: Actual playoffs, 16 game seasons, no cupcakes (not even the Lions or Raiders are even as relatively bad as a lower-tier major conference team), pros are grown men and act like idiots less often, scouting college kids not nearly as creepy as scouting high school kids

Advantage College: 100,000 crazy fans in the stadium, wacky offensive and defensive schemes, when college kids act like idiots is at least partially explained by being college kids

Generally speaking, I think the quality of play is better in the NFL, but college ball is more fun.

by drothgery on Jul 27, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are we sure we want them involved in our game?

These people in NYC have clearly shown that they have no taste. They’re Yankees fans, for Christ’s sake.

Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.

by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Jul 27, 2010 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Which makes them a perfect fit for the Crimson Tide.

I'm afraid I have no choice but to sell you all for scientific experiments.

by boddagettaflyer on Jul 27, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

When I saw the Titans were suing USC....

….I thought it might be because SC didn’t tell them they had to wire Lendale White’s jaw shut to keep him from blowing up to parade balloon size

by Spartan D on Jul 27, 2010 11:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Mmmm... maybe I'm just a homer

But the SEC logo just looks faster and more dominatingly fantastic than any other logo in the country. Coincidence? FUCK NO BITCHES SEC! SEC! SEC!

by ALGator on Jul 27, 2010 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

i like the whole

shield thing that is going on with the new logo, but the combination of the two different typefaces are unappealing. The “10” is really throwing me off with its placement. My brain caves to the need of closure regarding the subtracted white circle and it overlaps the zero in “10.” I would have destroyed this logo in a critique and would have made the creator cry. Yes, it does convey strength/power/blah blah with the shape (strikingly similar to patches on soccer unis, but i understand that it is alluding to designs from much earlier). But it is not aesthetically pleasing, more like frustrating to look at.

by Cocky Scar on Jul 27, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

plus,

the mountain looks like an arrow pointing to the “A”… My first thought was, “Hey, its pointing out that they are all Assholes…”

by Cocky Scar on Jul 27, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

generally disagree

I really liked the old Pac-10 logo. I will be very sad to see it go. This one feels a bit bush league to me.

by erik_t on Jul 27, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

the only thing that i liked

was the shape, the rest i could do without. And stated that it meets the criteria of conveying a message, but that it was unappealing. So, i think we are on the same page in our dislike.

by Cocky Scar on Jul 27, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

O mighty COTG, please keep New York out of the world of college football.

Because we all know that if they had a team worth covering, the Worldwide Leader would play that irritating “New York” song by Beyonce/Ke$ha/Alicia Keys/Jewel/Justin Bieber on infinite loop until the heat-death of the universe.

Brian Kelly says no Spicy Sea Nuggets.

by Ancient Chinese Secret on Jul 27, 2010 11:13 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Totally missed that ...

Delaney was “widely considered the most powerful man in college football.”

Always figured that was Dr. Lou.

by JD4AU on Jul 27, 2010 11:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Lane Kiffen

Pissing off the state of Tennessee one city at a time. What’s next, pissing on the Graceland parlor floor?

by sullivan013 on Jul 27, 2010 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

What would be so offensive about doing something the King himself did on many, many a long evening?

by DevilGrad on Jul 27, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

When the King did it, it was his house.

I'm afraid I have no choice but to sell you all for scientific experiments.

by boddagettaflyer on Jul 27, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

After the SEC Media Day...

…Big XII Media Day pales in comparison. I’ve seen morgues with more life in them. I was hoping Bo Pelini would at least throw out a couple of f-bombs, but no such luck.

by Gaknar on Jul 27, 2010 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Idea!

They need to bring in Robbie Caldwell to up the energy a little

by Spartan D on Jul 27, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup.

Really going to miss the Dread Pirate Leach. But after Boobie publicly reprimanded Tuberville last month, do you really think anyone’s going to be anything but vanilla?

"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther

by Go Big Rev on Jul 27, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

My choice for best segment of the B12 (10) Media Days?

Bill Snyder’s Oatmeal and Creative Scheduling Seminar

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CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC

SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDD!!!!!!!

by THETexasStateUniversity on Jul 27, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Twelve Pac?

Perhaps this has already been discussed in these parts, but shouldn’t the Pac Ten immediately switch their conference name to The Twelve Pac?

by flipwashington on Jul 27, 2010 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Just figured out teh ugly on the PAC 10's new shield...

They stole UW’s godawful skinny numbers.

"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero

by Stuck in the Plains on Jul 27, 2010 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Conspiracy Theory

Something smells fishy with this latest Kiffin incident (Get it, fishy? Get it. I rule.).

I’m thinking Haden called up Fisher and they hatched a plan to allow Pola to leave so that the Titans could sue. Then Haden would have the first significant transgression he will need to justify firing Kiffy. Now, plant a transsexual who just needed a ride home (Eddie style) and have the LAPD pull over Kiffin and the plan will be complete.

BHAHAHAHA BHAHAHAHA.

by North 2 on Jul 27, 2010 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

After being pulled over by the LAPD

for soliciting a transsexual prostitute and attempting to pay in 8-balls, Lane Kiffin will be elected governor of California in a landslide.

Brian Kelly says no Spicy Sea Nuggets.

by Ancient Chinese Secret on Jul 27, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

It helps if you have a football field

NYC doesn’t have too many of those, and still manages to produce football talent. Take Long Island, northern New Jersey and western Connecticut into account and you have fertile ground for recruiting talent and spectators. Hell, the Roman coliseum was the largest-capacity structure on Earth until the Yale Bowl was built. People in the northeast dig football, it’s just that there’s been comparatively little for in the last couple years, decades, whatever.

People need to be invested to develop a rooting interest, and there just aren’t that many D-I football programs up here to create the atmosphere of multiple rivalries needed to engage the region. Couple that with two MLB teams, two NBA teams, three NHL teams, two NFL teams and the fact that there is already plenty of other stuff, you know, to do, and it’s a difficult process.

I can tell you that there are large and fervent alumni groups at many Manhattan bars every Saturday during the season.

by Grib on Jul 27, 2010 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

"comparitively little"

“to root for”

Stupid lack of an edit button.

by Grib on Jul 27, 2010 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Laugh at the New York market all you want

But we’re talking about the most popular sport in America, and saying it’s impossible that it will ever be a big deal in New York? New F-ing York? You can sell bean cakes as dessert on the street by the millions to these people, but they won’t like college football? Riiiight.

New Yorkers will buy anything, so long as it’s pitched as the biggest and the best. A 7-6 Michigan State team taking on UConn would probably be met with a hand gesture, but roll in an undefeated Ohio State against an 11-1 Nebraska squad and they’ll come. This is the city, afterall, that financially powered 50 years of Notre Dame football.

Delany knows what he’s doing. The reason New York doesn’t give a shit is because Rutgers is awful and all the transplants root for their hometown schools. Put Michigan and Penn State in Citi Field and you’re talking instant sellout.

They don’t have a home team. And they can’t really, since everybody there went to different schools — it’s part of the thing. It’s also like eleventy million people — if 10 percent of them are college football fans, that’s a Top Ten fanbase.

Give New York something to really sink its teeth into, over a long period of time, and trust me, they’ll bite down. It’s fucking New York.

L'Équipe! L'Équipe! L'Équipe!

by Misopogon on Jul 27, 2010 6:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Eh

Rutgers is not awful. They’re meh, which is a massive upgrade from awful (and why some people sort-of pay attention to them now). As an Orange fan, I disapprove of this (at least, until we recover from GERG-induced awfulness), since we’re supposed beat Rutgers.

by drothgery on Jul 27, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like you said

“the transplants root for their hometown schools.”

You put UM and PSU in NYC and you’ll pull in every alum in the megalopolis, plus fans that would easily make the drive into town. Getting a sellout with big-name/winning programs is easy.

It’s that noon Iowa-Northwestern game that would be a tough sell.

by An 'eer with a beer on Jul 27, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

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