A QUICK WORD ON BYLAW BLOG/OUTING/ETC.
by Spencer Hall on Jul 26, 2010 2:51 PM EDT
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PrintThe reason this is over in FanPosts is because of our longstanding and oft broken policy on blogging about blogging, a kind of masturbatory thing bloggers tend to do far too often for our tastes, even if it is very interesting in the most narcissistic way imaginable.
So we'll be brief. Sadly, The Bylaw Blog is no more thanks to its owner being outed from anonymity by a certain Cap'n Ken, a longtime commenter here and proprietor at a website named Every Night Should Be Saturday Night. To the enumeration:
1. Outing an anonymous blogger is bad form unless there is a compelling reason to ascertain the identity of the anonymous blogger in question. As the guy was doing nothing harmful, illegal, or otherwise noxious, outing him is simply an exercise in displaying your search skills and little else.
Anonymity is a very, very touchy subject, but on the whole it should be assumed someone with a blog who is anonymous is that way because they have a job or other vested interest protected by their anonymity. You make your own deals out here on the frontier, and make your accords based on your actions. Outing him is violating a community accord, and only serves as cheap self-promotion and a violation of those.
Not the end of the world, but certainly bad form no matter how hidden in plain sight Bylaw Blog was. Claiming he was there to be found is disingenuous to say the least. It's not like there are rules, but it certainly affects how you deal with that person since you already have an indicator of their overall understanding of how to interact with other bloggers and general M.O. An anonymous blogger does not want to be found, and informally you should allow them to stay that way publicly.
(If you want to stalk the shit out of them, well go right ahead, but we find this gets creepy about two minutes into the effort.)
2. If the guy's employers were smart, they'd let him blog on the job since he did a superb job explaining the often arcane rules and regulations of the NCAA, and thus brought greater glory to his employer. As long as it doesn't interfere with job performance, why the hell not? It's not like you actually work 40 hours a week anyway. You might do 40 hours of work, or even 50, but no one says that takes 40 hours of actual time.
3. If Ken wants to have a blog called "Every Night Should Be Saturday Night," that's fine. He himself says it's an homage, and it's not like it mimics the site's design or says "Orsen Swindell" in the bylines. EDSBS itself is a nod to "Every Day Should Be A Holiday" by the Dandy Warhols, and there's nothing new under the sun, so we're not worked up about it in the least.
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Thoughtful
Rare in this whole crapbag of a situation, but if anybody can be counted on to actually contribute something thoughtful, it would be you. Except when you’re a douche.
I attempted today to put some more context around the whys of the post and what I expected (and really didn’t expect) out of it. People who might care probably know where to find it. Change a D to an N and and another N somewhere along the line.
Wanker
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by BurritoBrosShits on Jul 26, 2010 3:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
I second the wanker sentiment
because no matter what you anticipated, if you didn’t see a distinctly negative result for the guy, you were simply blinded by egocentrism. You fucked him over for no good reason. It’s not like he was trolling vitriol and hate masked in anonymity; he was basically being a resource of information on a very cloudy subject to the layperson. I hope the dude gets a gig with ESPN or something and gets paid to balance out the unwarranted outting you provided.
by Onestatewest on Jul 26, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
PR 101
Public Relations 101:
You have screwed up royally. What to do:
Step One: Get in front of the problem. Denials only make it worse, unless what you’re denying is provably untrue. Apologize for damage done. People are generally forgiving, show them why to forgive you. Only deny if you can reasonably show an accusation to be false. In this case, apologize, probably best on your blog, as well as here.
Step Two: If you can undo the damage, do what you can to undo it. If you can’t undo the damage, offer an act of contrition… in this case, remove the offending post.
Step Three: Reach out, personally, to the offended party/parties. Don’t make this a big deal. If the other side wishes to make it public, it’s up to them to decide. Send the dude an email, explaining how you found out who he was, what he could do differently in the future, and apologize for outing him.
Step Four: Learn from your mistake. In this case: Responsible Disclosure. Any time you learn sensitive information, it’s generally best to try and resolve the issue privately. If you must make it public, make it as vague as possible, and only do so after alerting the person to whom the information is sensitive, and give them time to correct the issue.
Just sayin’. You’re not exactly Mr. Popular at the moment, and while I kind of understand what you were trying to do, it’s pretty easy to understand where all the bile’s coming from.
by The Commenter Formerly Known as Not You on Jul 27, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Step Five: Throw computer in trashcan and live as a hermit.
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by BurritoBrosShits on Jul 27, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
You just now published your reasoning. Forgive us for not understanding your context before your rebuttal was even posted. You’re not proving anyone wrong here.
by OrangeBritches on Jul 26, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
you are the worst kind of blogger
shitty, unoriginal, and sanctimonious beyond belief. you really need to get fucking bent
So not only can you not come up with your blog name,
the only newsworthy items you can write about are attempts to take down other bloggers? I think I’d find more enlightened discourse in a YouTube comment thread than you could offer.
Oh well, you get to feel like you really earned your Junior Detective Badge, so that’s all that matters.
Ken Womack and ENSBSN: Leaving insight and originality to the other guys since Q2 2010.
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by Holly Anderson on Jul 26, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd say pot meet kettle
…but Mr. Hall took the high road and then some. /wankingmotionseconded
by Luke Zimmermann on Jul 26, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no investment in this matter...
Cap’s Ken’s site is
a purposeful twist; an homage; a tributeon their editorial,
and yet they feel liberated to state
I wish people Tweeting under college football brands would stick to that. Get a personal Twitter account for your Mad Men insights. http://twitter.com/capnken/status/19541770446Anyone following Fearless Leader’s 140 characterisms knows where this is directed.
Cap’n Ken – if you have nothing creative to add to the dialogue, then please disappear from whence you came. Thank you.
by vegas_buckeye on Jul 27, 2010 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Weak
He holds a law degree, so it’s reasonable to believe he chooses his words carefully. Apparently he does not.
Oh, there’s a solid defense for your lack of forethought. It may have been out of his hands, you know.
Over/under on the amount of time before EDSBS readers reveal Cap’n Ken’s true identity?
by Other Chris on Jul 26, 2010 3:14 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Someone already did.
They posted it in the comments section of the offending article. BUT, it seems the Cap’n here has since deleted the post after confirming it was indeed his personal info.
You might want to put on your life preservers before we all drown in the irony.
by She Blinded Me With Violence on Jul 26, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's not that hard
here’s his Linked-In Page if I had to hazard a guess. I would say I am 95+% certain that this is him.
I write my blog under my real name and a nom de internetz, but I’m not writing about anything that anyone at my current employer would care about.
As a blogger-wannabe, I found the Bylaw Blog to be an invaluable resource. I have the NCAA manual and can read it and interpret it, but it was nice to have someone who worked in compliance who’s full time job is to know that book at a level that I can only begin to grasp.
I made the assumption (interpretation, if you will) that as soon as someone found him out he would pull it down. Not because it was a game, but because he didn’t want to be found out for whatever reason he had.
He wasn’t writing vile things or stirring up hateful sentiment; he was attempting to pull back the veil on the hefty, byzantine and labyrinthine NCAA Manual.
Heaven forbid we allow someone to educate folks in anonyminity simply because you could find them out.
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by D-Sing on Jul 26, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ken's reasoning
1) He thought it was important whether or not the guy worked at a BCS school or not.
2) He was “bothered” that the guy was anonymous. Continues to remain anonymous himself, unless you want to look up his domain registration.
3) Whatever this means: “As somebody interested in Internet culture, technology and the like, it was significant to me that this author believed himself to be anonymous when he was anything but. At its base level, publishing his name was a demonstration that anonymity is elusive. The fallout demonstrates that depending on anonymity is a perilous thing.”
Basically, he whines that he couldn’t possibly know the consequences of such an action, and we’re all assholes for realizing them when he didn’t.
“Deep Throat was an asshole” – Cap’nKen
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by BurritoBrosShits on Jul 26, 2010 3:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
About that.
I get concern #1 – it’s a credibility issue. But there are better ways of addressing than the nuclear weapon of outing the guy. If you don’t think he knows what he’s talking about (any more than any other armchair lawyer), then there are ways to bring that up. Post something on your own blog pointedly asking about his experience (or lack thereof) in dealing with BCS football/basketball-level compliance issues. That way, Bylaw Blog has a chance to explain/defend himself. This way, there’s no defense, and more importantly, THE CONCERN IS NOT ADDRESSED because all we have is speculation about whether working in the industry is enough to confer valid insights, or whether actual BCS-level experience is needed.
Concern #2 is nonsensical, and it’s not how you’ve summarized it. You’re being far too kind. #2 is a stupid juxtaposition of something the NCAA is doing that Ken didn’t like (going after partygoers, “witch hunt” style) with something else Ken apparently doesn’t like (Bylaw Blog’s anonymity) without connecting the two. At all. Bylaw Blog’s explanations of the “black box” of NCAA compliance isn’t undermined by his anonymity in the same way – it’s an insight into the box where the price is anonymity and the guarantor is the quality of the writing, period. Oh, and this – “revealing the author might lead to opening the information up by bringing it out of the shadows” – is just fucking terrible as English and as argument.
Concern #3 is Ken basically saying, “someone else could’ve been a dick and made you pay, so I’m going to prove it by being that dick.” Which is not a defensible position. You can establish the first part (and people have) without doing the second. Hell, a schadenfreude post making fun of Bylaw Blog if/when his employer/the NCAA outed him makes the point just as well, and would’ve been an order of magnitude less douchey.
by Craig Esherick's Mustache on Jul 26, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Number one still holds no water for me; if credibility was an issue, all you had to do was read a few of the posts on the Bylaw Blog to realize that the author knew what he was speaking of.
In reality, the dear “Cap’n” was obtuse in recognizing the reaction that his post would bring. I’m all for forgiving the “Cap’n,” as long as he accepts all culpability for not only depriving fans and blogger of a fantastic resource but also deliberately breaching another person’s quest for anonymity.
Art Modell gives me a hard one
by gahnki on Jul 26, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, #1 is kind of an issue
It’s like the difference between someone who’s worked for David Boies or Ted Olsen (or like that) prepping a case for the Supreme Court and a guy who’s only ever argued in front of state appellate courts talking about how to prepare to argue in front of the Supreme Court. Latter guy’s not necessarily wrong in what he says, but he knows less of what he speaks than the former.
I get the concern, and it’s not immediately apparent to lay people simply by reading what was written because an author can make something sound right when it’s underinformed/incorrect.
But like I said, I agree that Ken’s actions were indefensible, and his only remotely legitimate concern wasn’t addressed by his actions (and, to be honest, remains unaddressed to the extent it is a concern).
by Craig Esherick's Mustache on Jul 27, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
So look it up for yorself...
even if #1 is an issue, once he gets his answer, why make that info public since his desire for intel on the subject has already been satiated?
by Mr. Sanchez on Jul 27, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Except that it hadn't, exactly
The author is in compliance, but not at a BCS school, or (as far as we know) with experience at BCS schools, specifically dealing with national-level football or basketball programs. According to Ken, he interned at Indiana, which may mean he was there during Indiana’s basketball prominence, but was still an intern. Which means his commentary on BCS level matters comes in for some questioning.
Now, do I think Bylaw Blog was unqualified to write what he did, or that he was underinformed/incorrect? Absolutely not. I don’t know enough about what he wrote or the subject matter to make that claim. As far as the response goes, it appears that he was the opposite – very informed and providing of insight to lay readers.
However, it is in my mind fair for someone to ask Bylaw Blog questions that basically say “you appear not to have done this for Kentucky basketball, Texas football, or the equivalent; does that matter”? Also, depending on what Bylaw Blog writes, it might be clear that it does or doesn’t matter – if he’s talking about what interpretation is given to a regulation, that’s likely to be the same regardless of where you are. If he’s talking about how compliance is handled at larger schools, it’s fair to ask how he knows/how well he knows.
I’m really not defending (or trying to defend) Ken here. His actions are inexcusable and illogical. His concerns are, for the most part, nonsensical – except for a bit of #1. That’s all.
by Craig Esherick's Mustache on Jul 27, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
What a shitstain.
Eat a bag of dicks.
Oh, and Ken? This whole “crapbag of a situation?” It’s all your fucking fault.
You mean to tell me that if I'm screwing around in the garage with some gas and matches,
and I burn the fucker down it’s somehow my fault? Son of a bitch.
Outstanding work, Ken. Don’t piss on the ashes, ok?
Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.
by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Jul 26, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
NO
It is clearly the fault of the matches for being such a fire hazard and the gas for being so combustible. How could you possibly be expected to know that combining the two would have unfortunate consequences?
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
You guys don't understand.
He cares about fire. Fire matters to him.
As somebody interested in [fire trucks], [flames] and the like, it was significant to me that this author believed himself to be [fireproof] when he was anything but. At its base level, [torching his garage] was a demonstration that [fire safety] is elusive. The fallout demonstrates that depending on [someone you don’t know not committing arson] is a perilous thing.
The U of O: Where idle hands are the devil's workshop.
by ProbablyMonty on Jul 29, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I really don't like this
Hey Capn Ken, just apologize to the blog’s author and to everyone else. You’re a douche for outing the guy, just admit it.
Can we just ignore him?
Dick move by him, but I don’t think he deserves any more attention.
Anonymity is a very, very touchy subject, but on the whole it should be assumed someone with a blog who is anonymous is that way because they have a job or other vested interest protected by their anonymity.
Well said. I’m one of those bloggers who creates a fictional persona and characters to entertain myself and a few of my buddies. It’s all in fun, but working where I work and knowing the people I know—who know me as a totally different type of guy—would really spoil it. I’m not breaking any laws or leaking any information, but not everybody has the same kind of sense of humor and I’d rather not have to try to explain my silliness to folks who won’t get it regardless. So anonymity is nice.
www.totteringworld.com
Yeah, I know
but I figured it’d be such a let-down if they did any digging. It’d be one of those “Who the F is he? Why do I care?” discoveries.
www.totteringworld.com
New thought
As per this morning’s lesson, there’s only one recourse:
LETHAL FORCE IS THE ONLY OPTION
Spencer was right!
(If you want to stalk the shit out of them, well go right ahead, but we find this gets creepy about two minutes into the effort.)
What with all the social media stuff, things get real real quick. Note to self: never use Gowalla or Foursquare or things like that.
Unfamiliar with the blogs, bloggers and situation of which you speak
I am, however, an ardent believer in and follower of unwritten rules. If they were violated, a shunning is order. If not, same balls should descend. If there is a gray area, settle it with a Fight Club-like catharsis.
These are my beliefs, and if you don’t like them I have others.
Crap. I was hoping that whoever outed this "Bylaw Blog" would...
become a target of the NSA, and in one keystroke the nosy SOB would get his credit ruined, become Public Enemy #1 on the “No Fly List” of the US(which means suprise cavity searches at every airport), have his picture photoshopped on the “FBIs Most Wanted”, and having weird guys in suits and funny haircuts following /shooting at him….all for snooping around ,basically running for his life for being nosy, because when I say I wanna remain anonymous, dammit, I mean it.
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by mrpelicanpants on Jul 26, 2010 5:57 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I just assumed everyone was pissed about Boise State's new advertisement for some reason....
"Got a bill that's big enough to twist the Tiger's tail. Husked some corn and made those SORRY HUSKERS BAIL!"
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Jul 26, 2010 8:15 PM EDT reply actions
It's fascinating to watch this guy
trying to justify what amounts to the internet version of a cup check.
“Hey, he said that he didn’t like being hit in the nuts, so I had a moral imperative to make sure he was wearing a cup. Balls are very important to me.”
Standard security rule
Level of protection depends on value of what you are protecting.
If your blog will go away if your name is revealed, maybe you shouldnt leave your fucking name lying around on fucking domain registration info (about 95% sure this is where Ken figured it out).
Not saying Ken handled the info in the best possible manner, but info that easy to get was going to get out. If you want to be anonymous, make at least a token effort at protecting your anonymity.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
A related issue
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/features/359800/when-is-it-right-to-go-public-with-security-flaws
It least in my mind. YMMV. There is plenty of controversy over best way to handle it.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
Good point about protecting yourself
But what kind of loser reads that, takes it as a challenge, finds out who he is and then brags about it in order to get attention to his bad blog?
I’m with everyone else, this ken guy is a fucker.
by PluckandGrit on Jul 27, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
So the link I posted
Many ask: What kind of loser releases the code to exploit a security bug?
There is a difference and most security experts inform the vendor first and give them some time to fix it before they release. Personally, I think its what Ken should have done – sent him an email saying I think you are this guy, here is how I found out the info, you should really make sure its less public because otherwise Im releasing the info in 72 hours.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
This is a silly comparison
With a security flaw, users remain vulnerable as long as the information is kept secret, so there’s some actual motivation for releasing the information. Not releasing the information causes harm that you have to weigh against the harm of releasing the information.
There’s arguably a reason to personally inform someone that they’re not as private as they think they are, but what on earth would be the reason for setting a deadline for public release of this information? Who’s being harmed by Bylaw Blog’s anonymity?
People who could learn a lesson from what happened to Bylaw Blog
http://www.despair.com/mis24x30prin.html
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
Then the only relevant information to them
is that a person on the internet isn’t as anonymous as he had hoped, which is neither new information nor unique to Bylaw Blog. Nobody is being harmed by not knowing his name and employer, so there’s no reason to release it publicly.
Making an object lesson out of a person isn’t justification for hurting them.
Im not sure releasing easy to find info qualifies as "hurting"
Im not trying to justify what Ken did (the depair poster is obviously a joke), but I dont see the big deal. If you dont want the info out there, make sure it isnt out there.
Although he is horrible at explaining it, I think I kind of get Ken’s point. People assume that if they post under “Boy Howdy” that know one knows who they are. It may not have been the best way to do it (in fact, Im pretty sure it wasnt), but I think some people learned from it anyway.
At least 1 person did.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
teaching a valuable lesson
So he needed to out the guy to teach him that he could be outed? What lesson is left to be learned once it’s over?
It’s like burning down someone’s house to teach them the value of insurance. Once you’ve unilaterally imposed your lesson on him, there’s no way for him to apply it anymore.
Ken Womack and ENSBSN: Leaving insight and originality to the other guys since Q2 2010.
The analogy doesnt hold
As I said somewhere else on here, he can just start bylaw2blog.com, properly set up and deny he is the same guy.
So, yes, he does have somewhere to apply it.
And even if you dont think that will work, see the despair poster I liked above, sometimes you are a lesson for others.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
and sometimes
the inability to admit you might be wrong or exaggerating the importance of a point can lead to some funny defenses.
The thing is, not sure why the release shuts down the blog
If the NCAA gave a damn, they already knew who it was. So Ken’s release should have been no new information for them. So, who cares?
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
Maybe it's a situation where
the NCAA doesn’t particularly care, but it doesn’t want one of its own publicly sharing the knowledge.
If it happens behind a thin veil of anonymity, then they’ll allow it, but if his real name and job our out there in the open, it looks a little more defiant.
It may also be that Mr. Bylaw Blog didn’t want the hassle of being a public source.
It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains
by Chekhov's Spread Gun Option on Jul 27, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe he should register bylaw2blog.com
set it up properly with the subtitle, “No really, Im a different guy”.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
If he's not under fire from either his employer or the NCAA mothership
then I agree, that would be the best course of action for everyone.
It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains
by Chekhov's Spread Gun Option on Jul 27, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Refering to my first post
It may also be that Mr. Bylaw Blog didn’t want the hassle of being a public source.
maybe you shouldnt leave your fucking name lying around on fucking domain registration info
My point being, he didnt care enough to do the basics.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
The “fucking domain registration info” has been private since very early on, if not from the very beginning.
I'm wrong all the time.
Nope
Administration and Technical Contact info is still available. It can be blocked (and appears to be for bylawblog.com) but isnt always.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
Just checked for ensbsn.com
The registrant, administrative contact, and technical contact all match the guy in the linked in link someone posted above.
And all 4 are for a guy named Ken.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
At least your sig is accurate
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
wtf are you even talking about?
Do you have any evidence that the bylaw blog ever had public registration info? Because I’ve been reading it from one its first two or three posts and it was private then, and is still private.
I'm wrong all the time.
No.
Im not saying that it was ever public.
I was reading your 11:50 post wrong, I thought you were talking in general about domain registration, not specifically bylawblog.com.
That was just my guess at how he found the info, if its been blocked, he used some other means. Ken’s post on his site made it sound like it was something that simple. It probably was something that simple.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
Actually not sure why you WTFed
My posts from context make it pretty clear I misread you. I said bylaw was blocked and then I gave an example of one that wasnt blocked to prove the point that blocking wasnt universal.
You must have given my reading comprehension skills WAY too much credit.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
It appears to me that you’re an unfortunate victim of the Dunning-Kruger effect when it comes to teh interwebz.
I'm wrong all the time.
Heh, not even close.
although I think it could apply to you. Dont you wish you had read my last post before writing that now?
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
Sure thing. You are an internet expert but you’re not real sure how to read.
Makes perfect sense.
Really.
I'm wrong all the time.
Me engineer.
reading hard.
I dont claim to be an internet expert, but I know how whois works. :)
And what I thought you were claiming that domain registration info has been blocked for a long time was clearly wrong.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
It’s cool, next time I’ll put it in a requirements document or operational schematic or something to make it more clear.
Although I’m still not sure what could be as simple as a public domain registration. There are a billion ways you can give yourself up online, but I’d be curious to know which one our genius used. I know he had started commenting on other blogs recently, and if he had done that from a work IP it’d take about 30 seconds to figure it out.
Originally I wondered if Ken’s methods were a little less legal, but given the intervening discussion and a bit more research, I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t be able to actually figure any of those out.
I'm wrong all the time.
I agree with you
its why I assumed Ken used whois. I dont see him doing anything much more tricky than that. But as we have discovered, easy to misread people.
As I mentioned below, I figured the other 30 minutes were googling to figure out what school the guy was connected to.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
As somebody interested in Internet culture, technology and the like . . . I’m very curious about his methods.
I also know that if I had done this sort of a d-bag thing, and it were actually really easy and not at all creepy or illegal, I’d have demonstrated that right away. “No, look everyone, all you had to do was go [here] and type in [this], and his name pops right up! Anyone could’ve done that!” might not have fixed the situation, but if he actually demonstrated that Infante’s identity wasn’t well protected, as he claims, there might have been a bit less backlash.
I'm wrong all the time.
I agree entirely
Because I assumed it was something brutally simple, its why Ive not thought this a big deal. If it was something more illegalish, that changes my mind.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
Nossir
aybe you shouldnt leave your fucking name lying around on fucking domain registration info
That doesn’t seem to be where he got it from.
A certain unnamed LSU blog, for instance, lists Ken Womack.
bylawblog.com, on the other hand, lists a fairly popular domain proxy service.
Not to mention, if it were in the domain registration, it would take a helluva lot less time than the claimed thirty minutes. It’d literally be more of a 10 second deal. And yes, that’d have been my first look, as well.
by The Commenter Formerly Known as Not You on Jul 27, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, see my back and forth with Pete.
I assumed he wasted 30 minutes googling to find out what school he was affiliated with.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
Yeah...
just did. Next time, I promise to finish reading the WHOLE thread before piping in.
/sulk
by The Commenter Formerly Known as Not You on Jul 27, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats okay, I cant read correctly to begin with.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
A few things jump out to me as proof that this toolbag is full of shit:
- His “rationale” has evolved from the time he made the unmasking until his most recent post on the topic. He’s grasping at straws, trying to find something that justifies this nonsense.
- At some point along that evolution, he claimed he had an educational goal. If so, wouldn’t that suggest he share how he found the info? You know, so people would understand how easy it was to find them and maybe better protect themselves online?
- Five minutes spent looking at the websites his LLC creates give a pretty good idea of this guy’s M.O. He’s a narcissistic, voyeuristic, hack desperate for a little internet fame but lacking the skill to come by it any other way.
I'm wrong all the time.
BTW, I agree entirely with your 2nd point
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
I don't want to go as far
as some of these people who call for this man to perform oral sex on spiky things
I guess my opinion on this is that what he did wasn’t necessarily malicious or even serious, but it is what I would call… rude? immature?
yea, rude and immature
but not something that should prompt this level of emotion from the interwebs because, well, we’ve seen worse
My body is a temple
My sense is that people aren’t angry because of some noble ideal of protecting anonymity, but because they now cannot go to Bylaw Blog to read and learn about an obscure, little covered subject regarding within football.
If Cap’N Ken revealed BB’s identity without forcing him to shut down, the reaction would not be nearly as vehement as it is.
Art Modell gives me a hard one
Uh, no.
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by BurritoBrosShits on Jul 28, 2010 6:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Uh, yes.
If the bylaw blog still existed, very few people would be upset about this.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
I'm more upset that I never read bylaw blog and now I cant
Don’t take things away from me before I know whether or not I want to use them, dammit!
It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains
by Chekhov's Spread Gun Option on Jul 28, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
GOOGLE CACHE IS YOUR FRIEND
Seriously. Google an article, read the cache. It’s still there!
by The Commenter Formerly Known as Not You on Jul 28, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Never read Bylaw Blog...
but internet stalking/outing has the potential to be dangerous… that and I get annoyed by anyone who provides halfassed rationalizations because of their inability to admit they were wrong.
So....what your saying is that Orson Swindle isnt your real name??
Crap. Well then who is the guy with the weird beard and thumb who keeps callin himself "Spencer"aka “Morpheus”? I secretly traced the IP and guess what? He is blogging from a basement…..in a totally white room full of doors that may or may not lead to other IP connections, from his 56k Modem connected to a rotary dial phone——cuz I could totally see “Spencer” running around the house decked out in full black leather duster coats, wearing dark sunglasses, trying to “jack in”…
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by mrpelicanpants on Jul 29, 2010 11:10 AM EDT reply actions
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