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THE CURIOUS INDEX, 7/21/2010

THERE IS A SLIGHT CHANCE THIS FAT GUY TOUCHDOWN NEVER HAPPENED. Oh, Fat Guy Touchdown. Your pleasures are boundless, and your shelf life infinite, even if the player involved may be declared ineligible for poppin' bottles with an agent on South Beach 

Alabama's Marcel Dareus is the latest to be infected with Agent-borne Eligibility Plague, as the NCAA's rolling inquiry into the South Beach Bottle Massacre continues to claim victim after victim. Different people react differently to contagion; as Foucault wrote, a society's attitude toward sickness reveals much about their internal power structures. For instance, Florida went with a highly controlling approach, getting the police involved and working the PR machine while maintaining tight control, showing all the signs of a tightly controlled but discreet totalitarian state like Singapore. 

Nick Saban, however, is far more overt and public in his power display. 

"What the NFL Players Association and the NFL need to do is if any agent breaks a rule and causes ineligibility for a player, they should suspend his [agent's] license for a year or two," Saban told ESPN.com. "I'm about ready for college football to say, 'Let's just throw the NFL out. Don't let them evaluate players. Don't let them talk to players. Let them do it at the combine.' If they are not going to help us, why should we help them?"

A veritable threat of public execution, that. Diagnosed class: benevolent dictator/violent class. There is the slightest chance that if involved Dareus could be declared ineligible (if any contact happened before the title game,) a move meaning Alabama played an ineligible player in the national title game, and thus would have to vacate the national title game, and now we're all confused. One potential bonus, though? VACATING NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP WOOOOOO!!!

We repeat: go ahead and laugh, because a.) from our perspective if we'd won the SEC Championship game and gone to the title game Florida would have been in the same situation, and b.) if you're differently affiliated your team could still very well be next (unless your team has no NFL talent.) 

UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE: Mark Schlabach reported on ESPN Radio that Alabama is cooperating fully, and that the worst Dareus is likely to face is a three to four game suspension for the contact (which he supposedly recognized immediately upon arrival, and then left. We hope it's not longer than that, since he seems like a good enough dude and is a brilliant player to watch.) 

WOOOOOOO SEC MEDIA DAYS. We're typing this in the lobby of the Wynfrey, and there's at least twenty Bama fans here at 9:00 am CDT.  Twitter and SBNation madness to follow. 

RESPECT THE BELL. If you need instructions, Mississippi State, you best read them and respect the cowbell. Being the cryptoanarchist we are the notion of controlling noisemakers strikes us as antithetical to any civilized society, but the bastards take away fun and that's what they do. 

/vuvuzela'd

/air horns

/dog whistles that only 300 pound defensive tackles can hear

/running from Terrence Cody 

WELCOME BACK, SIR. Auburn's Zac Etheridge is back from his nasty injury, and good for him since being temporarily paralyzed on the field and recovering should always have the happy little "GOOD NEWS" sunburst they use on local newscasts surrounding it. (This is where Etheridge was.) 

GRAPH IT. Les Miles, orator. 

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Boise St national champs?

Only remaining undefeated team, right?

Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.

by gtne91 on Jul 21, 2010 10:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, Bama would still be undefeated since its just a vacation, not a forfeit.

But still.

Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.

by gtne91 on Jul 21, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, it is a vacatur...

It appears the “Vacating Era” is upon us, so we should get the grammar right. And shit.

by justjebus on Jul 21, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Auburn likes the way you think.

That 17-year-old Hokie sitting in the Greensboro Coliseum rafters in 1997 didn't see any of this coming.

by JoshCVT on Jul 21, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Im totally with Auburn getting USC's title.

Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.

by gtne91 on Jul 21, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's the only way they'd get one

"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero

by Stuck in the Plains on Jul 21, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brittany

Maybe I’m not following the story closely enough but I thought the trip in question were around spring break to Miami… in which case unless something improper happened before the championship game, he was still eligible and nothing is vacated… sorry.

by Lanebc2 on Jul 21, 2010 10:31 AM EDT reply actions  

no you’re right, Spencer is wrong. The event in question happened well after the National Championship Game. There is absolutely zero chance this impacts last season. The question will be whether Dareus is eligible to play going forward.

by cjbama on Jul 21, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would laugh

but the thought that Dareus would find out I laughed, rip my nose off, and replace it with my already-ripped-off taint will cause me to abstain.

by She Blinded Me With Violence on Jul 21, 2010 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

I can't decide which NCAA rules I hate more

The draconian agent-interaction police state or the racist excessive celebration crackdown

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by Old South on Jul 21, 2010 10:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Racist?

http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2010/7/21/1580190/the-curious-index-7-21-2010#comments

Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.

by gtne91 on Jul 21, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, super link fail

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap6Kn0dkbyY

Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.

by gtne91 on Jul 21, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Racist needn't be universal

Tebow acting like an 11 year old on a temper tantrum after gaining 2 yards on a 3rd and 1 and not getting penalized versus any black guy scoring a touchdown and getting a flag fuck it, we know what happens anytime someone disagrees with you. Forget I said anything about racism.

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by Old South on Jul 21, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

"Forget I said anything about racism."

I think thats a good universal rule.

Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.

by gtne91 on Jul 21, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think the Tebow situation has more to do with SEC refs favoring the higher ranked team

Has UK ever gotten a call against Florida? I can remember at least twice a UK defender committing pass interference by ramming his back into the hands of a UF receiver while running away from him.

Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.

by gtne91 on Jul 21, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's a good point

I’m not sure if it’s Tebow’s whiteness, his golden-boy status, or Florida’s reverence. And I usually hate people who bitch about calls. But you’re right, there were a couple bad ones against UK.

Those don’t even compare to the “Gator Fellater” specials against Mississippi State and especially Arkansas.

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by Old South on Jul 21, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

What – did he throw another pick or something?

"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther

by Go Big Rev on Jul 21, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

the trip was memorial day 2010 so no loss of title(sorry Auburn dorks). He might lose future eligibility though.

by DJ Ness on Jul 21, 2010 10:40 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Nice to see a Bama man has rec'd this

I bet a post consisting entirely of “ROLL TIDE” would get enough recs to go green. (Joke! Not Serious! You may pick up the golden flakes you just through at the floor in disgust!)

Just to hypotheticaliz, is there any change the probe into the party unearths agent contact occurring before that party? I haven’t been following Darreus’ stuff so I don’t know. But that’s sometimes how these cases shake out.

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by Old South on Jul 21, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

We're talking about the 2010 BCSCG, right?

Doesn’t matter to us one way or the other, bama dork

by PalmettoTiger on Jul 21, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

replied to wrong comment here, meant for DJNess

We are THE tigersthatsaywareagle

by cowcollege on Jul 21, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trust me

If they lost him its not going to hurt.

A horse is a horse of course of course his name is Mr. Ed; unless he's donkey then of course his name is Tim.

by somedude87 on Jul 21, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clarified

The original draft didn’t specify the time of the contact, and has been amended. We included “slight” to include the possibility of ineligibility, but if there’s nothing before that then it affects only his future eligibility.

Apologies for the usual rapid incompetence.

by Spencer Hall on Jul 21, 2010 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Apology accepted

But from now on, we expect unusual rapid incompetence. You have been warned.

by sullivan013 on Jul 21, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's just evidence really is going back to the glory days

with a dictator as a head coach and rules violations abounding, but they never get in trouble.

/they see me trollin

by SEC Supremacist on Jul 21, 2010 10:49 AM EDT reply actions  

I lost track

How many players and schools are now caught up in this party?

I’m thinking it’s 2 from UNC, 1 from USCocks, 1 from UA, and 1 (or is it 2) from UF. Did I miss anyone?

"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke

by MtnEer_in_SC on Jul 21, 2010 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Right,

I knew the Pouncey issue was separate, but I thought I read something about another UF guy. Maybe it was just he was old high school friends with one of the guys from UNC.

"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke

by MtnEer_in_SC on Jul 21, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

There have been whispers that another UF name will come out, but so far as I know one hasn’t.

(For that matter, L’Affaire Pouncey has been all smoke and no fire so far.)

by peachy rex on Jul 21, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

SEC Media Day reminded me

That the Pac-10 holds their annual media day at a San Francisco airport motel. And they wonder why everyone makes fun of that conference.

"Dodger fans aren’t happy when foul balls get into their section, because it interferes with their playing with the beachball"- Mike Krukow

by 49er16 on Jul 21, 2010 11:21 AM EDT reply actions  

And also that they need but a single day

Even then, I picture them all staring at each other blankly for the last hour or two.

by GwinnettGamecock on Jul 21, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

?

Can a conference holding their media days at a hotel built into a howling wasteland of a MALL in a suburb really throw stones?

by Emerszi on Jul 21, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sure

When you issue over 1,000 press credentials for folks want to come out to that howling wasteland, sure. You can throw whatever you choose.

by PalmettoTiger on Jul 21, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

People from the West coast...

must wonder how sad one’s life must be to actually believe that their conference’s media days is a significant event.

Who didn’t vote for Tebow damnit!!!

It doesn’t matter how many football games the SEC wins. We will always look down on you.

by devidee33 on Jul 21, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

People from the Big Ten...

have no life so they openly wonder about how fans in another conference feel about the SEC media days.

by sullivan013 on Jul 21, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

And...

This is why the SEC is dominant. Because we actually care whats going on in football.

A horse is a horse of course of course his name is Mr. Ed; unless he's donkey then of course his name is Tim.

by somedude87 on Jul 21, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I forgot...

THE PASSION!

It doesn’t matter how many football games the SEC wins. We will always look down on you.

by devidee33 on Jul 21, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

The passion

Well you got something right.

A horse is a horse of course of course his name is Mr. Ed; unless he's donkey then of course his name is Tim.

by somedude87 on Jul 21, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Insert stock argument about West Coast fans having better things to do with their time like topless beach volleyball with Playboy triplets.

Matt Daddy is ATQ’s #1 HRD Fan.

by HoodRiverDuck on Jul 21, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Three days and 1,000 plus press credentials issued

Pretty much qualifies as a significant event. Become relevant again and maybe folks will want to hear from you.

by PalmettoTiger on Jul 21, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I know it's huge...

ESPN told me so.

It doesn’t matter how many football games the SEC wins. We will always look down on you.

by devidee33 on Jul 21, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey

Its better than FSN ;)

A horse is a horse of course of course his name is Mr. Ed; unless he's donkey then of course his name is Tim.

by somedude87 on Jul 21, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to agree...

with the Spartan on this one.

Trying to visualize 1,000 reporters in one location asking the same goddamn questions to which they already know the answers to just makes me angry, and then nauseous. It has to be especially unnerving this year with Alabama hosting the event and holding the crystal football.

Lord Swindle is ofcourse excluded from my previous statement, as I feel he goes there not just as a reporter, but on some gonzo-type bender in the spirit of Raoul Duke, and makes me laugh like hell on a daily basis

by Hogtown Beatdown on Jul 21, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty much what I was thinking

except for one addition: in some ways we bring this on ourselves.

We buy the preseason mags. We subscribe to the WWL. I know, we get the latter because, occasionally, they show ACTUAL COMPETITION BETWEEN TEAMS OF AN ATHLETIC NATURE, but still: we keep feeding the beast and it keeps growing.

Which is why I’m getting most of my sports news from my local fishwrap and SB Nation these days. Throwing four bits to the locals and getting Spencer’s work for free seems about right for me.

*this post sponsored and paid for by Swindle Industries, LLC.

"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther

by Go Big Rev on Jul 21, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

if dareus saw the problem immediately,

why didn’t he report it to coach/compliance? i guess kids do stupid things (i know i did). RTR.

by dirt sandwich on Jul 21, 2010 12:00 PM EDT reply actions  

"Let's just throw the NFL out"

Don’t think every SEC recruiter won’t remind top prospects of that quote.

It would seem Coach Saban has some NFL issues. No idea why.

by Jack Fact on Jul 21, 2010 12:02 PM EDT reply actions  

That pose should be the statue.

It doesn’t matter how many football games the SEC wins. We will always look down on you.

by devidee33 on Jul 21, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

PROCESS!

We are THE tigersthatsaywareagle

by cowcollege on Jul 21, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice look, Nick!

Is that a Bill Stewart imitation?

"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke

by MtnEer_in_SC on Jul 21, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still remember a Dolphins exhibition game in which Nick Saban threw the challenge flag like a sissy.

by softbatch on Jul 21, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

And

It still won’t hurt Saban as a top recruiter.

Saban: Hey do you read Frobes? http://blog.al.com/bamabeat/2008/08/medium_Saban%20Forbes%20ALcom
Well you should start.

A horse is a horse of course of course his name is Mr. Ed; unless he's donkey then of course his name is Tim.

by somedude87 on Jul 21, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've never read Frobes

Is that a Daniel Moore publication?

We are THE tigersthatsaywareagle

by cowcollege on Jul 21, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sorry

 I forgot you guys don’t read anything that doesn’t end in FEED N SEED.

A horse is a horse of course of course his name is Mr. Ed; unless he's donkey then of course his name is Tim.

by somedude87 on Jul 21, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clemson just got better

QB not going to go play for the Rockies.

"It’s not Disneyland, people. Get the hell out of the way." NYC Firefighter

by jokastrength on Jul 21, 2010 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

You sometimes wonder about their sanity

MLB: Kyle, do you want a $1.2 million bonus to sign up for a cushy job that pays a minimum of $400K a year, or do you want to go play football and take a chance on losing it all.

Kyle Parker: I’ll play football.

"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke

by MtnEer_in_SC on Jul 21, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure he's doing it for the education.

Doesn’t every young man dream of hanging a Clemson diploma on the wall?

by five point stance on Jul 21, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course not...

Every single kid who plays for Clemson either goes straight to the Big Leagues or the NFL.

It doesn’t matter how many football games the SEC wins. We will always look down on you.

by devidee33 on Jul 21, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

The groupie situation

in the minor leagues is pretty grim, compared to what you’ll find in college football. Not that I’m saying you can’t find quality tail when playing for the Tulsa Drillers…

OK, that’s exactly what I’m saying. But still, “Drillers” eh? Nudge, nudge?

by Eric Angevine on Jul 21, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Considering he was a national unknown before the title game

I feel safe wearing my 2009 BCS t-shirt

Well…. as safe as one can feel in Atlanta

Fumbles. It was always Fumbles

by DocFumbles on Jul 21, 2010 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I actually like Saban's idea.

There’s gotta be some deterrent for the agents, or this stuff will never end.

by Spartan D on Jul 21, 2010 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

please...God please.......

bring me a two game suspension for Dareus. Just two games, God, please. That’s all, just two rotten games to start the 2010 season. I’ll do thy bidding, God. I’ll be good to small children and old ladies. I’ll donate to charitable causes. I’ll wash your car, God…..with two coats of wax! I’ll even say nice things about the pope. Just bring me a two game suspension for Marcel Dareus. God,please. Amen.

by mhentz on Jul 21, 2010 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

God grants your wish

The two games are Georgia State and Duke.

by El Kabong!!! on Jul 21, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Out of Hibernation Dept:

It is too easy to jump all over ‘Bama, Florida, USC-east, North Carolina, Notre Dame and the other assortment of cheaters and miscreants that infest our great college footbaw world right now…
…like my team is doing right now → USC…it is time to be positive about the future and lets let bygones be bygones, do not pass go and collect your $200…ooops, check that… …just pass go without breaking any NCAA, Federal, State, Common Law, Roman Law, Mongolian Law?, etc. etc.
(((Now that Laker domination is over and the hangover of the World Cup has been cured, it might be time to get back into the college footbaw world commentatin’ bidniss, like they say in Armpit America.))))

by SKLM on Jul 21, 2010 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

What's your deal?

It doesn’t matter how many football games the SEC wins. We will always look down on you.

by devidee33 on Jul 21, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

My deal Department:

I’m still stunned by the NCAA penalties, and probably still can’t think straight…
That is my deal…
So, I am trying to put a positive thing on everything….hoping this rosy outlook works for the next few seasons…

by SKLM on Jul 21, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look on the bright side.....

…your new AD did say he wanted to build a top notch womens’ sports program at USC, so you have that to look forward to.

by Spartan D on Jul 21, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes Sparty, Dept:

USC was the only school that won three national championships last year, and I think two of them were won by the ladies. So, let’s give the ladies a big hand.
Yes, Sparty, I am looking forward to Pat Haden attempting to learn on the job and actually do some work…
…and having an excuse to hang out with some of the pretty ladies of USC ain’t too shabby….remember he was some sort of high falutin’ Scholar.
(In the spirit of being positive, I will not cast stones at the previous AD.)

by SKLM on Jul 21, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here you go.

I’ve got plenty to spare.

Brian Kelly says no Spicy Sea Nuggets.

by Ancient Chinese Secret on Jul 21, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Needs to be Spiked Dept:

Thanks Far East Man….but I will only drink the Kool-Aid if it is spiked with the good stuff. Will need it for the next few years! Actually, the USC-ND game will be one of the few things to look forward to next season.

by SKLM on Jul 21, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa, whoa, whoa...

Did some from LA just fun of way people speak? Last I check half your town doesn’t speak English and the other half speaks Ebonics.

A horse is a horse of course of course his name is Mr. Ed; unless he's donkey then of course his name is Tim.

by somedude87 on Jul 21, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Explanation Dept:

Dude: Half of the fun of coming to this fine site is to make fun of others…and it should be stressed that even the fearless leader and leader-ess of this blog (who are from the great State of Tenn -I’m being sarcastic-btw) usually take the lead making fun of their own.
And, make fun of LA all you want…though most people from your neck of the woods escape over here when the reach adulthood, or get permission from their parole officers.

by SKLM on Jul 21, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

You should take your won advise.

A horse is a horse of course of course his name is Mr. Ed; unless he's donkey then of course his name is Tim.

by somedude87 on Jul 21, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

FAIL!

OWN*

A horse is a horse of course of course his name is Mr. Ed; unless he's donkey then of course his name is Tim.

by somedude87 on Jul 21, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Low hanging fruit Dept

It is easier to make fun of the South than the West, though not by much!
But, in the spirit of being positive, I am avoiding the self-flagellation…for now…

by SKLM on Jul 21, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

THERE IS A SLIGHT CHANCE THIS FAT GUY TOUCHDOWN NEVER HAPPENED

It happened, alright. I have a seismic data sheet from that day that looks like Charlie Brown’s shirt to prove it.

by Eric Angevine on Jul 21, 2010 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Anybody else

bothered by Musberger saying “shuttle pass” in that clip? I mean bothered more than you normally are by Musberger, of course.

Hadoken!!

by Brizzle T on Jul 21, 2010 7:03 PM EDT reply actions  

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