USC AND THE NCAA: THE SMOKING CRATER AND WHAT CRAWLS OUT OF IT
by Spencer Hall on Jun 10, 2010 5:48 PM EDT
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If you're wondering what it takes to make the NCAA mad, just point to USC and say "THAT." The most severe punishment handed down since Alabama's 2002 decision had to floor even the most cynical observer: the marquee program of the 2000s, perched on the edge of the continent and beyond the purview of most of the college football media's scrutiny, and protected by the bubble of boundless success and celebrity glitter received one carefully aimed bullet that came within inches of its heart before exiting.
USC will survive this, albeit not without massive blood loss. They'll have to crib from the Miami and Alabama blueprints on program reconstruction, since they may offer no more than 15 scholarships a year and have to take ten a year for three years starting next year, but that is doable provided you understand the pain those left in the wake of the program's near-execution. They'll have to eat any projected bowl revenue for two years, including the instant Rose Bowl dough that became a matter of direct deposit under Pete Carroll. They'll have to suck for at least three or four years, and climb through an uncomfortable muddle of mediocrity for another three years before considering a return to form.
They might even take the horrific step of losing to Stanf---scratch that. Twice. We might also find out if wunderkind-turned-doofus-bandit Lane Kiffin can actually coach, because he's going to have a steep challenge driving USC out of this shitpit. He won't, but if he does we'll eat a entire red velvet cake to atone for being so horribly wrong about him.*
It's a decisive punishment, but some rankling points that remain, however. Mike Garrett--or whoever is AD after Garrett-- has to sign off on any transfer requests from football players.Those student-athletes should be free to transfer without penalty or permission from the University in the event of something like this which diminishes their market value.
On a less legislative and more judgmental point, Reggie Bush comes off in the report as nothing less than a complete asshole: wheedling cash out of his business partners for a '96 Impala with rims and a booming sound system, "getting a big head" according to testimony and asking for more, refusing to cooperate with investigators and finally burning everyone involved in the case by ditching his prospective business partners--who, as demonstrated, wasted thousands of dollars on him--and torching his school's football program in the process.
We're sure there was an element of youthful indiscretion there, but this goes well past the limits of that allowance. You may think the NCAA's rules are absurdities listed numerically, and we would certainly agree in many cases with you. They are the rules, though, and to break them knowing the institution that brought you to fame, fortune, a plush pseudo-celebrity's ass, and a Super Bowl ring might pay dearly for your indiscretions in the end is either malicious, dumb, or maliciously dumb. We take a flyer on number three.
Meanwhile in Seattle: HEY MAPLE BARS!
Note: We'll have something on various rumors either tonight or early tomorrow a.m., because it's all total crap right now even by our low standards.
Note 2: It's a conspiracy!
*MAKE BETS YOU DON'T MIND LOSING.
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I knew that USC was tied to Obama's "birth certificate" somehow!
Just hadn’t managed to piece it together yet.
I seem to recall...
….Lane Kiffin taking over a California club with a history of bad behavior and multiple championships that had fallen upon hard times.
How’d that work out again?
Yeah, but is Al Davis the President at USC?
Passing? Who needs passing?
by RamblinWreck007 on Jun 10, 2010 5:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
In a rare moment of lucidity
Al called out Kiffin for what he is. Then, slipping back into dementia, hired Tom Cable.
Reggie Bush:
I hate the Trogans and I have zero problems with Reggie’s actions at USC considering the hypocrisy of the NCAA but his actions after leaving directly caused this mess for SC and he should at the very least do what Camby did for UMASS and pay all lost revenue for the school and apologize to the current players for playing while blatantly taking money.
Ernest Hemingway
also killed himself.
"A man's character may be learned from the adjectives which he habitually uses in conversation." - Mark Twain
by Stu from Tuscaloosa on Jun 10, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've heard of Ernest Hemingway. I've held Ernest Hemingway's books.
You, sir, are no Ernest Hemingway.
by gamedaytribe on Jun 10, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Also...
Calipari has to be impressed with Carroll, I mean he only got 15 mil jumping out of the sinking ship going to the Nets, Carroll managed 33 mil.
No doubt. Unless he was actually involved in something criminal what did he stand to gain by constantly stonewalling the NCAA?
Guess he bought into the current meme of “too big to fail” and didn’t think the NCAA would bring the hammer. I’m sure in some way he figures he was helping USC by keeping quiet.
Unfortunately, the penalties prohibit that.
USC must disassociate with Reggie Bush, including refusing all financial assistance.
by Topher Kersting on Jun 10, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Kiffen = Mike DuBose
Both came home just in time to pilot their beloved programs away from the brink. Will Kiffen be demonized as well?
Well that depends
…on how hot the secretary he’s caught fornicating with is. And how long he lies about it.
You know – the usual.
by DisplacedTideFan on Jun 10, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Dubose is now coaching Division III football, muttering to himself
I think Kiffin’s demise will be much more grand and complete.
Given his current location, you gotta think earthquakes are going to be involved somehow.
by Etch Westgrin on Jun 10, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
In California politics, it’s not out of the question… and it might be cheaper to orchestrate that than to buy him out if things go south too quickly.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
i refuse.
now let me jump on my soapbox. while reggie was a duplicitous prick, releasing punishment for his actions on the same day that a major conference is imploding bc its member schools want additional tv revenue, none of which will be shared with the men destroying their bodies so that money can be earned, is complete and total bullshit hypocrisy.
in summation: fuck you ncaa.
I did not realize
that one could fuse Marxist doctrine with college football.
100 cocktails to you, sir!
by An 'eer with a beer on Jun 10, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
You must be new around here
The list of things NOT fused with college football is shrinking faster than USC’s 2011 verbal commitments.
are you a moron or subtle sarcasm?
/so far left i am hayekian
by INTERNETZ! on Jun 10, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That video
is the tits.
Brian Kelly says no Spicy Sea Nuggets.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Jun 10, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
So disappointed.
When you said “Hayek” and “bust” in the same sentence, I was expecting a totally different video.
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
You should be happy
If they released it while nothing else was going on, USC’s problems wouldn’t be sharing attention with anything else
Downtown Athletic Club on line 3 Mr. Bush...
They want their Trophy back and are sending Moose and Rocco over to your crib right now.
Kiffin to the NFL within 2 years.
by DressHerInWhiteAndGold on Jun 10, 2010 6:09 PM EDT reply actions
I know this hits Southern Cal's finances hard,
but he can afford a ticket much sooner than that.
by GwinnettGamecock on Jun 10, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
You want a real conspiracy theory?
Bush and Mayo were UCLA plants instructed to demolish the program.
Mission status: COMPLETE.
Team Speed Kills
SBNation's SEC Blog
UCLA could never pull that off...
clearly this was accomplished by Notre Dame and Opus Dei. Expect to see this in the next DaVinci Code sequel.
Dude? and who's more pro than the Jesuits?
"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke
by MtnEer_in_SC on Jun 10, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
We're Bilderberg and Trilateral...
We leave the illuminati stuff to the nouveau riche.
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 11, 2010 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess this answers the question, "Would Kiffin be dumb enough to take over a program about to have the ban-hammer dropped on it?"
The answer is, “Yes. Yes he is.”
DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP
One for every lost scholarship. Well played Kiffikins, well played.
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by Jamie DeVriend on Jun 10, 2010 6:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
DERP DERP
Don’t forget the bowl games.
Brian Kelly says no Spicy Sea Nuggets.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Jun 10, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
The crazy thing...
is that people close to Bush begged him to settle with Lloyd Lake immediately after the first Yahoo story broke. He refused. Probably would have taken less than 80,000 to make him go away. Now it’ll cost USC millions.
Yeah, but that 80,000 would have been Reggie's money
By refusing to settle, Reggie got the man to go away for free.
by GwinnettGamecock on Jun 10, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Kiffin + Scholarship Cuts =
Death penalty. No, not for the program, but in the future of at least one of his recruits in the coming years.
This calls for a cheese bet, Orson.
Pig Pen this here's Rubber Duck, and I'm about to put the hammer down.
I'm hesitant to believe his willingness to uphold his bet
After all, we know the cake is a lie.
We do what we must because we can
by Chekhov's Spread Gun Option on Jun 10, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don't listen to him
I got a call from some lady, Gladys? Anyway, she assures me there will be cake. Bet’s on.
Semirelevant to this discussion:
Someone obviously incinerated Reggie Bush’s morality core because he’s flooded USC’s enrichment center with a deadly neurotoxin.
We do what we must because we can
by Chekhov's Spread Gun Option on Jun 10, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum expansion announced!
Brian Kelly says no Spicy Sea Nuggets.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Jun 10, 2010 6:51 PM EDT reply actions
They’ve improved the place since i graduated.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
They've added a bathroom!
About time!
by Albino Tornado on Jun 10, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Hanging one’s backside over the top of the stadium wall and letting fly might have a satisfyingly Chaucerian feel to it, but times move on.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
See, I was seeing more Rabelais here...
The artist formerly known as TCOAN
by Lady Commenter on Jun 11, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
The loss of bowl revenue
Not that big of a deal in a equal-sharing Pac-10. Since the Pac-10 seems to never be able to get a 2nd BCS bid anyway it should work out to the same amount of money.
Since Kiffin was a part of the coaching staff that precipitated these penalties
Fuck him. He deserves to coach them to mediocrity and get fired before the rise back to prominence.
I have to think USC hiring back coaches who were part of that staff (and who have acquired a reputation elsewhere for less than perfectly scrupulous attention to the rules) played a role in the NCAA’s COTG impersonation today.
At first glance I read that as "comic justice".
I think both work.
I had almost forgotten about COTG.
/looks nervously up at sky
Today’s events are obviously His doing.
Brian Kelly says no Spicy Sea Nuggets.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Jun 10, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Praise be!
I shall honor him with the burning of Matt Leinart NFL jerseys and Mitch Mustain’s Arkansas hand-warmer.
Don't say
I didn’t warn all of you bastards.
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
Conspiracy!
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
Did Todd McNair put you up to this?
We do what we must because we can
by Chekhov's Spread Gun Option on Jun 10, 2010 8:08 PM EDT reply actions
Where oh where is SKLM???
I’ve waited too long for this… where is the little SC bitch Stacey Keibler Loves Me?
Actually he wasn’t so bad – kind of hope he isn’t standing on a ledge somewhere…. Oh wait, no I kind of do.
Couldn’t have happened to a better program. SKLM if you are out there – suck it. Finally.
Damn
That’s taking it to the Burish level.
http://deadspin.com/5560601/adam-burish-takes-high-road-offers-to-punch-chris-pronger-one-more-time
Today has confirmed my strong belief that
the best way to watch the world end is from a lawn chair, with a beer in hand.
Brian Kelly says no Spicy Sea Nuggets.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Jun 10, 2010 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
Isn’t that true of just about everything except intimate relations with a lady? For procreative purposes only, within the bounds of marriage, of course.
(I’m being cautious in case you all really did orchestrate this… is it safe yet?)
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
Is it safe yet?
Not even close.
Brian Kelly says no Spicy Sea Nuggets.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Jun 10, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
If the NCAA can retroactively take away titles...
…can you retroactively award Fulmer Cup points/titles?
While Bush was morally wrong,
he didn’t break any laws.
If they handed out points just for being a dick, they’d call it the Meyer Cup.
by GwinnettGamecock on Jun 11, 2010 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess it's not all negative, right?
The reaction of Devon Blackmon, high school senior and Trogan commit (per Scout.com):
“I think it’s good, because that gives a lot of athletes an opportunity to have a spot and not worry about anybody else taking it. So if any recruit is smart, he would go there,”
The new year approaching, click in. Let’s facelift bar! Open the wardrobe is not yet found love after another the right clothes? So, also waiting for? Immediate action bar!
Wow...
Trogan competitive fire is as pitiful as Trogan understanding that 15 < 25
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Jun 11, 2010 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Well,
now we know how Kiffykins is spinning it on the trail.
not drunk, just overserved
by Gen. Stoopnagle on Jun 11, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
i for one think that reggie is awesome and usc deserved what it got
I love it when a plan comes together! -Hannibal
by DrewBreesManCrush on Jun 11, 2010 10:48 AM EDT reply actions
B1tch!
R Bush is a “F everyone else B1TCH!”
And he was ineligible for the Heisman.
I’m not bitter, like I sound, I just don’t like to see the bad actor get away with it.
Never forgive USC or OJ Mayo
for getting Arrested Development canceled, that is lowly trojans, lowly.
Seems like the NCAA has had it out for USC for a while, I guess they finnaly got ’em.
I’m no SC fan, but I think the NCAA needs to go away soon.
"Bottom line, wrestling is a martal art. If you can’t hang, go kickbox for K-1."
"That meat which you have just tasted........was human meat!"
Pain don't hurt...
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