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THE CURIOUS INDEX, 3/19/10

PON DE FLOOR. It's Friday. That means office daggering, Bundy style. (HT: Flubby) 

We're on assignment for SBN today, so the Index will likely be it for today unless Dollar Bill Doug decides to drop some wisdom on that ass. Apologies, but we have to go drive laps at Talladega. No, they know we're coming this time. (Shout out to the Talladega Police!) 

YOU HAVE A "CONSULTANT" YOU SAY? /PULLSTRAPDOOR. The last man sucked down by the sinking S.S. Kiffin's descent to the seafloor in Knoxville will be...first mate Bryce Brown, who is likely done at Tennessee and is no longer on the team due to the following: 

Bryce Brown came to me today and indicated he’s dealing with a lot of personal and family problems right now," Dooley said. "They’re concerns that I believe stem from — and what he told me stem from — some of the reasons why he came here, and his experience over the first six months that he was here.

...i.e. absurd promises of playing time granted to a freshman in the name of recruiting, and then the souring of the relationship when said promises turned into goal-line carries and spot duty behind Montario Hardesty. If a recruit has a "consultant" or "recruiting svengali," you should immediately throw this recruit off the nearest breezeway. You'll save you, your coaches, and your football program a lot of time in the process. 

OMG LIGHTS INDEED. Michigan will play a night game on 9/10/11 against Notre Dame in the Big House, their first prime-time night game ever. Ann Arbor press corps! This is illegal, against the rules of being a MICHIGAN MAN, and is somehow Rich Rodriguez's fault! See if he's making money off the lights contract! Better yet, investigate his shady relationship with wanting to play at night? IS HE A VAMPIRE OR WORSE YET A LYCANTHROPE? Hey, Drew Sharp: HE MIGHT BE BOTH. These investigations should keep you busy for the next year. You're welcome, sensible Michigan fans. 

I WANT TO TELL HIM HE LOVES YOU. WANTS TO CARESS THOSE BROAD SHOULDERS. RUN A SCENTED BATH FOR YOU WITH ONLY THE FINEST ESSENTIAL OILS. If/when [NAME REDACTED] is finally fired at Illinois and assumes his destined role as "a really qualified special teams coach" (and a good one) at a major school, we shall miss the golden pinata that he is, and his interviews filled with subjectless sentences. 

To wit: 

: Will you be as active with the defense?

A: I won't be more active. I want to be able to get back and observe. I don't want to be as involved. Don't want to be the bad guy. Want to be the good guy. I want to put an arm around a guy and say, "Hey, he really does love you." That can get confusing sometimes.

Especially when the coach is standing on the sidelines holding a The Notebook poster with "YOU" written over Rachel McAdams' face and his own cut into the spot where Ryan Gosling's face should be. That's way confusing, but Vic Koenning is a passionate man and that is his favorite movie so, yeah. You're going to have to deal with it, kid. 

TRADITIONS. THEY'RE IMPORTANT. At two days old this is slightly moldy, but worth a nibble if only to say that if he plans on instituting other SEC traditions from his tenure at Auburn, he could look into a.) shuffling his offensive coordinators and occasionally allowing assistants to undermine them completely, b.) having the Texas Tech board interview other candidates behind his back, c.) dammit that's as bitter as we can be because even though his teams beat Florida consistently he's still charming as hell in person, and probably not evil. (Probably.) 

The "walk" tradition is vastly overplayed. Now, if they rode to the stadium on war-hogs or hippos? NOW we're talking impressive new traditions. 

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Ah, memories of puberty, where...

…Kelly Bundy=High Octane Wet Dream Fuel.

Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.

by Todd on Mar 19, 2010 9:21 AM EDT reply actions  

I think he's talking about Christina Appelgate.

Not Al’s ole woman with 12 lbs. of red hair on her head.

by Paranormal on Mar 19, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, KELLY...

…not Peg.

Roll Bama Roll - The Champagne of Bama Blogs.

by Todd on Mar 19, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Although Peg had a certain white trash milf appeal...

the hair and clothes were bad, but the body looked nice.

by Mr. Sanchez on Mar 19, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

and LARGE breastesses

"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke

by MtnEer_in_SC on Mar 19, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

and a Christian in real life...

…most unlike the aforementioned wet dream inducing Applegate.

Sorry to put a needle to your balloon.

Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs

by bamachine on Mar 19, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

No Digital Viking? how will i pass the time in the office between basketball games and commercials? I need my patron saint for the day/upcoming week… so i will know how i need to live my life…

by Cocky Scar on Mar 19, 2010 9:27 AM EDT reply actions  

I need an answer on this. If there is no DV this week I might as well pack up and head home at lunch.

by Domer Guy on Mar 19, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

It makes sense actually.

Nascar is about the furthest thing from living spicily, even if you’re with Tom Cruise and Robert Duvall. Practice what you preach.

by Big Jon on Mar 20, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why does it not surprise me...

…that Spencer/Orson doesn’t know this.

by BamaTaxMan on Mar 19, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

well that settles it

Time to turn in your white trash certificate, O.

Maize n Brew
Because Football is Better with Beer

by Maize n Brew Dave on Mar 19, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just like...

…attending a race is still called “Goin’ racin’”. Damn, I’m really embarrassed that I know that.

by CKGator on Mar 19, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lycanthrope?

More likely a “misanthrope”. With sociopathic tendencies. BARWIS!!!!! EEEEEEE!!!!!

by yoyofutbawl on Mar 19, 2010 9:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Perhaps Notre Dame will reciprocate with a night game in South Bend in 2012.

What’s that? Night games have been scientifically shown to increase levels of fun and home field advantage? Well, we certainly can’t have that. The (very very wealthy) alumni from the class of 1901 want their hot chocolate hot, their seat cushion squishy, and their football stadium deathly silent.

Brian Kelly says no Burger King at 3 AM.

by Ancient Chinese Secret on Mar 19, 2010 10:03 AM EDT reply actions  

As many night games I have attended...

…it is hard to imagine a team that has never played one.

Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs

by bamachine on Mar 19, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, this is part of the eventual straight up swap...

…to take place at the end of next season…Miles and R-Rod trade jobs…and the humor loving CFB nation rejoices.

Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs

by bamachine on Mar 19, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 'The "walk" tradition is vastly overplayed.'

Maybe for observers and fans, but the effect on the players is why such things are becoming common. However trite you think it is, interviews of departing seniors of schools that have a ‘walk’ all point to it as an important motivation and fond memory of their time there.

Tuberville knows this and is just applying what he knows is a proven winner to fire his players up.

To borrow a saying from the Army: “If it’s stupid and it works, it isn’t stupid”

Sullivan013

by sullivan013 on Mar 19, 2010 10:18 AM EDT reply actions  

I'd like to thank

Gabby [NAME REDACTED] for that example of genuine dead-coach-walking gibberish.

by Counter Trap on Mar 19, 2010 10:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Let us not forget this Tuberville Tradition

Signing an average of 28 players a year, every year, yet never suffering APR issues and avoiding the Fulmer Cup like a plague. I’m still trying to figure out where he put the bodies…maybe they are in the vacant row houses in Baltimore where Marlow put his bodies…I’m calling Bunk and Jimmy McNulty.

Cheers to Auburn for being the best at something – see link below.

http://oversigning.com/testing/?p=547

by tafkastosub on Mar 19, 2010 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Is that your blog by chance? It is well done, if a bit narrow in focus.

Los Angeles is like Manchester. There is a red team that wins championships and a blue team that doesn't.

by oc phil on Mar 19, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why does clicking a column header

just reverse the sort. If that’s just what the charting plugin does, wouldn’t it make more sense to transpose the table so the conferences were the rows, making the sort-ability meaningful?

by Prince_Lightfoot on Mar 19, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

not sure what you mean...

I noticed there was a conference column that can be clicked on to sort the teams by conference…also, I think there are separate tables for each conference…

by tafkastosub on Mar 19, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

So far, you have made 4 comments on SBN...

…over the past weeks. That is also your sum total and they are all directed at that site. If it is not your site, then you are a common shill for it.

Auburn and Tennessee fans are a lot like Slinkys...neither are worth much but you do get a sense of satisfaction from pushing them down a flight of stairs

by bamachine on Mar 19, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Orson, I take it you are also a follower of Eric Wareheim on Twitter.

by PW and EDSBSMD on Mar 19, 2010 11:04 AM EDT reply actions  

No mention of Dooley's Comments?

“… I’m not here to recruit. I’m here to coach.” – when talking about Bryce Brown leaving the Vols…

by Cocky Scar on Mar 19, 2010 11:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Kiffin's opposite, I guess?

"In case you're wondering what the offense should look like, that wasn't it." - Urban Meyer

by cantcatchuf on Mar 19, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

THE WALK WILL FAIL....

Tubbs will carry his team to 5 yards from the stadium and have to kick a field goal…but some fans will be chop-blocked along the way.

by Terry Bowden's Shoe Lifts on Mar 19, 2010 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

How will TTU stand it...

when Tubs treats them to a 3-2 cliffhanger?

by yoyofutbawl on Mar 19, 2010 12:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Here's Why it Won't Work

Texas Tech has no centralized tailgate scene (trust me, I accompany my Red Raider husband home games whenever my own team isn’t occupied). Thus the “walk” will be an aimless wandering around various smatterings of Ford F-150 trucks in small hot asphalt parking lots around the large campus, the Red Raider Club pre-game meal in the practice bubble, and the half-assed and sparsely attended school organized official pre-game tailgate. Seriously, hubby prefers our tailgate scene to Texas Tech’s -- and I went to SMU.

Can’t wait to see how they navigate the crossing of the Marsha Sharp freeway to the tailgating on the other side.

by DiamondM on Mar 19, 2010 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Also...

I have a problem with new coaches trying to come in and create “new” traditions when the school already has perfectly good traditions if he’d just bother to find out. I love Texas Tech’s entrance into the stadium. They rub the saddle horn, and run in through the tunnel following the Masked Rider. It is very effective. More stirring that this “walk” will ever be.

by DiamondM on Mar 19, 2010 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree with this

This reminds me of Kiffin trying to bring USC traditions to UT – as if Tennessee hasn’t been around long enough to form their own football traditions. Still, it’s not like “The Walk” is anywhere near as stupid as tearing off your shirt and running around yelling “WILD BOYS!!!!!”

by billycthulhu on Mar 20, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

why are these mutually exclusive?

i don’t see why tubby can’t have his hoecake and eat it too

by Old South on Mar 20, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I cannot FUCKING believe...

…that there will be no Digital fucking Viking today.

FUCK.

Have fun at the track.

not drunk, just overserved

by Gen. Stoopnagle on Mar 19, 2010 5:14 PM EDT reply actions  

This is on the Ozone Hall of Fame posts. It is a good read from a TTU fan perspective following their game with tOSU in 2002.

By PhilBarker-Posted on a Texas Tech forum on 12:30:56 08/27/02

Yesterday, I saw Big Time and we are not it (a little long)
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I just got back from Columbus this morning and I got to see exactly what big time college football is all about. We are no where near it no matter what we think we have going for us out here. We are so far off the radar map that we have no idea what to think about it.

Just some observations:
Campus area: Columbus-The area around the university, there was no doubt you were in OSU territory. Flags everywhere. The atmosphere was teeming with a confidence and pride about the area. Lubbock-a few flags on stores that have direct relatios with Tech. We have to beg the merchants and vendors close to campus to acknowledge Tech is across the street. We are not big time.

Pregame activity: OSU-I got to the stadium early to see what all the hub bub was before I went to the alumni event. At 9 am most lots were full and looked like they had been going for a while. Fans were willing to shell out any amount of money or invest any amount of time to have an opportunity to get a spot a mile walk to the stadium. Hiney gate was in a word incredible. If I wasn’t sure I was going to a football game, I would have sworn I was at woodstock. Food vendors lining the streets in every direction, music, people, more people. Wow. Tech-A few tailgates. The most that we had quit coming because they got their feelings hurt that the athletic department wanted to make some money on the close parking and asked them to park their cookers across campus, bug deal. The lot across from the arena is closer than 75% of the parking at OSU and would cost their what it costs to park at Jones. Our fans get offended because they get asked to pay to park. Raider Alley pales in comparison, the pavilion is ok but not really. We are not big time.

Gametime: OSU-Everyone in their seat ready to watch the band take the field. 70% of the crowd was seated and ready to watch Tech do its pregame performance. Tech-how many of us Tech fans even knew there was a pregame band performance? Most Tech fans are still in the parking lot until well after the kickoff. We are not big time.

Game Attire: OSU-Lots of football jerseys, everyone in Red or white or silver. Fans look like they are going to a football game. Faces painted young and old, fans outfitted top to bottom in Ohio State gear. Women dressed for a game! Didn’t see anyone wearing gear from other schools. Tech-Lucky to get the fans in Red or black. If they are its Tommy Hilfiger or Polo. The Tech stuff they do where is green or khacki. A&M and UT hats worn by kids and Tech students alike. Women dressed like they are going to a junior league meeting after the game. Bottom line at Tech, if its fashionable and it happens to be red or black or have a double T, then its ok. We are not big time.

Game end: OSU-Fans stay to the very end and cheer its team, sing the school song before heading to the exit, even when their team is up 30 in the 4th quarter.Tech-Very few fans in the seats at 0:00 unless the game is on the line. Even then, I recall fans leaving during overtime of the KU game when the game was in doubt. Our fans gotta beat the traffic because they gotta get to the restaurant. Heaven forbid we have a big lead inthe 4th quarter, our fans clear out. Why not stay and revel in the win with your team? We are not big time.

During the game: OSU-all the fans know all the cheers and do them at the top of their lungs. The most impressive thing I saw was OHIO chant when each of the four sides all yelled out one letter. Its a party atmosphere with the band going into the stands getting the fans going in different parts of the stadium. The cheerleaders look like they are having fun doing what they do and the crowd responds to what they are doing. The mascot is athletic and is as much a part of the show as the team. Fans stand in important situations and make noise when its third down FOR THE VISITING TEAM. Tech-Fans know the cheers but wont do them because its not cool I guess, maybe we think someone else will do them. Raider Power is boring and unoriginal. The atmosphere is more like church. Fans dont want to stand and they dont want you standing in front of them. Our fans wont get excited until we are playing UT ot A&M, but even then, they dont want to stand up. Our band is still perfecting the WAVE. Sometimes I dont know if our band realizes that they are AT a football game, they seem unconcerned except for when they are on the field performing. For some reason at Tech, we think that we should make noise on third down when we have the ball. Raider Red, well, I don’t think I saw him leave his spot all day. Our cheerleaders are more about makeing cute pyramids than they are about getting th fans into the game. They are not loud and not a factor. Our fans dont even listen to them. We are not big time.

We have a long way to go before we can consider ourselves big time. We are Division one, and in a major conference but big time, we are not, not by a long shot. I go back to the analogy of Commitment and involment that spike used to make. In a plate of ham and eggs, the chicken is involved but the hog is committed. OSU fans are committed, Tech fans, we are loosely involved.

by Crabapple Buck on Mar 19, 2010 5:34 PM EDT reply actions  

a few of those are just cultural differences...

Obviously the sheer scope of OSU dwarfs TT. Observations about that do show why OSU is big time and TT is not.

But as for the way people dress, and the cheers, schools in the midwest just do it differently. You’ll see comparatively few football jerseys at, say, an Alabama game, and more of the polos and khakis. It’s not because they aren’t bigtime, it’s because people who aren’t in the midwest aren’t jersey-crazy.

by Old South on Mar 20, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Co-Sign

The last jersey I wore outside of my own high school and college jersey at games or practices was in 1997 when I was 13. I wear button ups and polos to games. Doesn’t mean Ohio State is more football crazed than the south. It just means I dress like an adult and refuse to wear some 20 year olds jersey. Don’t own a jersey, don’t wear a jersey. That’s the way in the south.

In short unless you’re a rapper, under 14 or some sort of weird collecting throwback officianado there is no way I can sign off on an adult male wearing a jersey.

Yeah BoYeeEEeeE

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