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THE CURIOUS INDEX, 3/10/2010

LET'S BRING THE LIGHTS DOWN IN HERE FOR JUST A SECOND. 

Terrance Tolliver apologized for his involvement in a bar fight after practice yesterday, and did so in front of reporters scolded child-style. If you doubt the veracity of our Les Miles monologues, please see this actual quote from Les Miles re: Tolliver and the hand he broke in the fight. 

"The hand is broken," Miles said. "It will probably be casted and taped and rubber casted for the rest of the spring, but it will not be a lasting issue. We will throw him balls when the read dictates, and he'll have to catch it. When he doesn't catch it, we are going to bark at him. It's just the way it is. He's going to have to block with it. I didn't break it. He did."

Like that was something Miles felt he needed to clear up: "No, seriously, I didn't borrow his hand and break it to teach him a lesson. I mean, you can't even do that. It's not physiologically possible, silly!" Meanwhile, Papa Swindle is rocking his face off to the "Get Away" part of the song in a slightly used Audi, wearing an Izod, and smoking Vantages. 

IF YOU GO TO HAWAII AND STILL TEXT THE OFFICE YOU MIGHT BE URBAN MEYER. Meyer's fuzzy return timeline is shifting into something resembling shape: he'll be there for spring practice on March 17th, and presumably for the duration after taking vacations in Hawaii and Atlanta. Vacations where he was still texting the office. And calling. And sat in a few meetings. Hi, we're Florida fans, and our coach is going to explode on the sidelines sometime around the year 2013.  Oh, and per the Sentinel's quiz, we're a Spurrier. <---derp duh derpy derp derp. 

IT WAS YOU IT WAS ALWAYS YOU. The Rivalry wonders if Big Ten expansion is and was always about Notre Dame, and credits Jim Delany with something we'd sort of overlooked in making fun of his dusty rolodex and tendency to take the paper and a cup of coffee into the john while addressing his assistant. 

Is this an accident, or is it the work of a highly skilled professional? By carefully staging press releases, offering open-ended answers, and misdirecting attention to decoy programs (Missouri, Pitt, Syracuse, Rutgers, Texas), Jim Delany has created an unprecedented air of instability across the FBS landscape.

Wait...he's not only amusingly 1982 Midwestern in his blocky Buick Sedan, he's...a Tom Clancy villain? If this somehow ends up destabilizing a former Soviet republic, the theory would be confirmed. Rakes of Mallow says Notre Dame fans ain't happy bout none a this. 

THE CANDIDATE. Mark Ingram finished either "2nd or 3rd" as a write-in candidate in Alabama student government elections, and Clay Travis argues that he's the worst Heisman-winning write-in candidate by the numbers ever. 

TASTES LIKE VICTORY. I MEAN, SUBPOENA. Tuberville 

cited in the case of the Detestable Mr. Leach against the Dastardly Hilljack Technical Institute of West Texas. Oh, to scandal, men, to scandal!

/clinks glasses


/spills ten dollar cognac on rug. 

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Or in Jacksonville...

…when Georgia actually wins again…

not drunk, just overserved

by Gen. Stoopnagle on Mar 10, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

ND fans need to get over themselves

The ND admin better be lobbying hard with the Big 10 before they add s different school. If not, the Big East will be ND’s only choice.

by Alex P in Smyrna G on Mar 10, 2010 10:38 AM EST reply actions  

ND "masses wont like it"

I doubt the ND masses would like a Big 10 realignment that forces the Big East to add ECU or Memphis after losing a Pitt or Rutgers. If B10 expands w/o ND and I’m the Big East I tell them to get all the way in or have fun playing the MAC or C-USA because they can’t use the Big East as a launching pad for everything but football. Good luck scheduling 40+ baseball games as a true independent.

Let the anger ensue.

Yeah BoYeeEEeeE

by InTheBleachers on Mar 10, 2010 10:48 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

ND still living in the 1950s is keeping them from reality

They have looked like hell on the field. I can’t say what I would like in a public forum about them, so I’ll just say that they are doing a fine job. And by fine job I mean they are continuing the crapfest started by Kevin White. Keep it up ND, the rest of college football loves it! If the Big 10 would quit scheduling them, they would be looking for MAC or worse to fill the 7-4-1 they seem married to at present. The Big East is a shit conference in everything but basketball and I wouldn’t even put them ahead of the Big 10 in that. When ND is done posturing, this will get done.

by Crabapple Buck on Mar 10, 2010 10:59 AM EST reply actions  

Keep jabbing at ND

and I’m with you all the way. For years I’ve thought the Big East should tell the Domers to get all the way in or go schedule the MAC in all your sports.

But when you start saying the Big East is a shit conference, you gets me all riled up. Go check the BCS Guru. In their simulation of the BCS evaluation scoring the Big East beat the Big Ten in each of the past 4 years. Check out the bracketologists. The Big East is projected to have 8 to 10 teams dancing. The Big Ten gets 4, maybe 5. You need to get out of the ’50s too.

"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke

by MtnEer_in_SC on Mar 10, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Doesn't the BE have 16 teams?

they should have more teams. How do they do it? VOLUME!

by Crabapple Buck on Mar 10, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Percentages, my math-challenged friend

8 to 10 out of 16 is greater than 50%

4 to 5 out of 11 is less than 50%

Dem maths, dey a bitch.

"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke

by MtnEer_in_SC on Mar 10, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Field fillers. I'm still unimpressed

Since this is a football blog, I will say that 11 is greater than eight, but after the first 3-4, there is usually a big dropoff. In the Big East the dropoff starts at the top.

by Crabapple Buck on Mar 10, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's check those numbers

Final 2009 AP football poll
3/11 of Big Ten in Top 25 with 0 in “Others Receiving Votes”
3/8 of Big East in Top 25 with 2 in ORV

Percentage-wise more Big East teams got Top 25 votes than Big Ten teams, and the conference scored better on the BCS evaluation. Hardly bolsters your claim the Big East is a shit conference. Come back here and I shall taunt you again.

"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke

by MtnEer_in_SC on Mar 10, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

What poll were you looking at?

tOSU, PSU, Wisconsin and Iowa all won bowls and finished in the top 15! I recall Cincy getting curbstomped and dropping from their too lofty perch. Pitt played in Charlotte and I can’t even recall, nor do I care what they did. WfV lost to FSU.

You need to go back to my point after the first 3-4 teams, the rest are also-rans. But if you want to defend Big East football power, go right ahead.

by Crabapple Buck on Mar 10, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

BE inflates their bowl record playing crappy opponents

Good lord the new Pinstripe Bowl is the BE #3 vs. the B12 #6!! If they had to role with the B10’s tie-ins they’d get housed.

"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"

by psuphiman80 on Mar 10, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh boy, oh boy, I can't wait for ND to join a conference!

So I can be part of debates like this one!

/slitswrists
/joinsivyleague

Brian Kelly says no Burger King at 3 AM.

by Ancient Chinese Secret on Mar 10, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey buddy, don't worry about the transplant to the palmetto state

I mean he’s right and stuff, but I think he’s arguing with you for an entirely different reason. Mountaineer fans are still mad about missing the 2008 BCS title game with tOSU. We were all real excited about being the ones to pummel the Buckeyes on national TV, instead of – insert random SEC team here -.

by jbseay on Mar 10, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah, I was arguing with him because, like most B10 homers I’ve met, he’s just living on past glory and talking out of his ass.

"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke

by MtnEer_in_SC on Mar 10, 2010 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

my tongue was firmly planted in cheek wrt your argument.

by jbseay on Mar 10, 2010 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Lunch break was over and I had to go

That should have read:4/11 of Big Ten in Top 25. I plead stumpy and cut-off fingers on that typo. It still doesn’t change the fact that a higher percentage of BE teams received Top 25 votes than did B10 teams.

One of your bald statements was the BE is a shit conference. Objective evidence in the form of numerical analysis of the on-field results over the past 5 years do not bear out your assertion. See the BCS Guru link below.

http://www.bcsguru.com/2009_bcs_qualifier.htm

Another of your bald statements was that ND is living in the past. My assertion is that you are too. You’re still blinded by your historical prowess that you don’t see that as a conference, y’all have slipped behind us.

"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke

by MtnEer_in_SC on Mar 10, 2010 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

The main advantage the Big East has

is bowl record. And that’s mostly because they play in shitty bowl games: Last year’s matchups:

  1. vs. CUSA #3/4
    #2/3 vs. ACC #6 and 7
  2. vs. SEC #2
    #5/6 vs. SEC #10 and MAC #5

Meanwhile, the Big Ten:

  1. vs. Pac-10 #1
  2. vs. ACC #1
  3. vs. SEC #3
  4. vs. SEC #7
  5. vs. ACC #4
  6. vs. Big XII #4
  7. (because #7 didn’t qualify) vs. Big XII #8

Exclude bowl record and it’s a virtual dead heat. Which is, admittedly, much better for the Big East than I’d thought, but nowhere near the advantage for the Big East you seem to think it is.

by SpartanDan on Mar 10, 2010 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Argh auto-formatting

That’s supposed to be BE#4 vs CUSA #3/4, BE#1 vs. SEC#2. For the Big Ten, they happen to be correct except the last one (#8, because Purdue finished 7th but wasn’t bowl eligible due to ugly non-conference record).

by SpartanDan on Mar 10, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Then we might agree

that the Big east is not a shit conference?

"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke

by MtnEer_in_SC on Mar 11, 2010 7:48 AM EST up reply actions  

vantages

nice.

re Urb – who vacations in the ATL? World of Coke?

by dirt sandwich on Mar 10, 2010 11:01 AM EST reply actions  

Everyone knows people really flock to Hotlanta for

The Southern Museum of Civil War and Locomotive History in Kennesaw.

I'm Irish. I'm going to have to deal with something being wrong the rest of my life.

by boddagettaflyer on Mar 10, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Confessions

I’ve actually been to the Southern Museum of Civil War and Locomotive History… twice.

by lhb98 on Mar 10, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

is the Cyclorama still there?

He’s prob. checkin’ out Civil War murals if so.

I'm in no condition to drive...wait! I shouldn't listen to myself, I'm drunk.

by That Other Dave on Mar 10, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I scored "Joe Paterno" on that quiz

I have no idea what to think now.

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by Year2 on Mar 10, 2010 11:09 AM EST reply actions  

Just bask in your obvious greatness

And try to avoid nibbling on brains.

"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"

by psuphiman80 on Mar 10, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I also am a "Joe Paterno."

I guess its time to go run down a ref. Suddenly have a craving for brains…

by HawkeyeRecon on Mar 10, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

You obviously just shat yourself.

by devidee33 on Mar 10, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait. Nevermind. That was me.

by devidee33 on Mar 10, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Me three!

I will coach from the skysuites. Makes a helluva lot more sense considering my drinking habits at games!

not drunk, just overserved

by Gen. Stoopnagle on Mar 10, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Joe Paterno Bros

We need to unite. I too scored Joe-Pa on the quiz.

Let’s have a party. I’ll bring the bibs, crayons, coloring books and prune juice.

You guys are on the hook for orange slices, diapers and golf carts.

Yeah BoYeeEEeeE

by InTheBleachers on Mar 10, 2010 12:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm A Joe Pa also

and that disturbs me deeply.

"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke

by MtnEer_in_SC on Mar 10, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I was Joe Pa. I prefer to focus on the folksy lovable parts not the cranky old man characteristics.

I really don't know if anything sums up America better. It is simultaneously preposterous, incrediably laughable, impressive, charming, redicoulous, expensive, overpopulated, wonderful, American. -Sir Stephen Fry on visiting the Iron Bowl

by RanchyBalls on Mar 10, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Aw, crap, it says I'm Lane Kiffin.

Actually, though, “a showboater without much substance” isn’t that far off. I’ll be taking my ridiculously hot wife and my paycheck that is far out of proportion to any of my actual accomplishments now, gentlemen, if you please.

by Doug Gillett on Mar 10, 2010 11:32 AM EST reply actions  

I scored “Joe Paterno” on that test. I guess this means I should get Lasik surgery for my bad eyes……………

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Mar 10, 2010 11:55 AM EST reply actions  

Given that I too scored a “JoePa” and am ALREADY scheduled for Lasik, I’m… well, I’m actually feeling at ache in my hip. I think it may just be my rheumatism acting up.

by lhb98 on Mar 10, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Time for a fake hip………….

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Mar 10, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I scored a Spurrier

but it was definitely a UF Spurrier, not the depantsed version in SC. I sorely miss the UF Spurrier, and I would gladly wish SC win an SEC title to have that Spurrier back.

by ESS EEE SEE Speed on Mar 10, 2010 12:52 PM EST reply actions  

I too scored a Joe Pa

But I think it was because I tried to answer the last question by typing “What the hell is a Taylor Swift”

by BennyBeav on Mar 10, 2010 12:58 PM EST reply actions  

She's a cutie

"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke

by MtnEer_in_SC on Mar 10, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

It's actually not far off

This year I wouldn’t put the Big Ten in front, but last year I would, and I don’t really think it’s even that close. The Big East always has a ton of really good teams, but the bottom drops out halfway down, while the only gimmes last year in the Big Ten were the games against Indiana (and maybe Iowa at home, though they were moderately tough at Carver-Hawkeye). Michigan State would have put up a fight for the Big East title, Indiana would have been duking it out with DePaul for last, and Iowa would probably have been sitting around 12th, but the rest of the Big Ten would have been top half in the Big East. This year the 11-14 range in the Big East has improved enough to not be a complete joke, although by the same token the 5-7 group have dropped off noticeably. The Big Ten, on the other hand, has seen much more stratification – the top four are excellent, next two are decent, and then you have a craptacular bottom half.

by SpartanDan on Mar 10, 2010 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Houston Dale

I scored a Houston Nutt on that test. I assume this can only be cause for concern. Giggity.

by dirt sandwich on Mar 10, 2010 1:36 PM EST reply actions  

WTF?

You all seriously took that test? I already knew I was Ron Prince. I know this because I see success every time I look in the mirror.

by Kang and Kodos on Mar 10, 2010 2:45 PM EST reply actions  

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