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THE CURIOUS INDEX, 2/16/10

DANIEL MOORE'S LATEST CLASSIC IS NOW AVAILABLE. 

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"Cody Feeds." We're sure it's a moving interpretive piece, an allegorical stretch from Moore's more typically prosaic depictions of great moments in Alabama history. The penguins are Tennessee players, since like Tennessee fans they mate for life, lay eggs, and waddle awkwardly on dry land. Have you seen them in the water, though? Like herring-killing torpedoes, they are. Will eat the bait right off your hook if you're not careful, as well as the box of fried chicken you leave too close to the boat railing. A minor piece entitled "Maximum Block" is also available, and commemorates Lane Kiffin's victory over Alabama in a 14-12 loss last year. 

USC WILL GET THE DEATH PENALTY AND WILL BE RAZED TO THE GROUND BY THE NCAA'S PRIVATE SECURITY FORCES.  USC really is about to plead collective Alzheimer's not just on the Reggie Bush case, but also on the O.J. Mayo case, which while not comparable in terms of dollar amount of benefit involved is certainly more openly brazen. (Hard to beat cash getting handed over in front of witnesses.)  It could work, too, especially since the NCAA is too busy doing MUMBLE MUMBLE MUMBLE--

/shuffles papers

/waits for CBS check to clear 

--and yeah, there are rumors. Elaborate, insane rumors, which is what the internet is for in addition to kitty pictures and heinous gifs of things flying into the World Trade Center. (If it's on the internet, 4chan has it flying into the World Trade Center. Guaranteed.)  None of it happens until it happens, which Cynical Orson says won't ever happen, and realistic Orson says is as likely as catching a snowflake not made from the ashes of a burning building on your tongue in Port-Au-Prince.  The important question remains: has Ed brought the infamous whiteboard back yet? 

FURTHER CONFERENCE OBESITY WARNINGS. BHGP says Kansas would be a tantalizing option for the Big Ten, and why the hell not: they've got way more money than you think, offer a bonafide behemoth on the basketball side, and would be another choice better than anyone they could pull from the zombified Big East. 

Looking at football, yes, poaching half the Big XII North might seem, on its face, to be a little underwhelming. Perhaps. We'll just remind you that the Big 10's other alternative for expansion is the Big East, and Big East football makes the Big XII North look like the Bionic Steroid NFL. 

The continued viability of their football program isn't a given, but that's not really what you're going after with Kansas. If Turner Gill can continue the considerable momentum of the Mangino era (FAT PHYSICS JOKE) in football, that's pleasant, but KU basketball would be the scalp they're going after there. Bring on the Cats points out that in losing the Denver market, the Big 12 loses way more than you're perhaps thinking about in terms of viewers.

YOU MAY THINK YOU'RE HARDCORE BUT YOU'RE NOT CUTCLIFFE-CORE.  Duke has already started spring practice. You ain't hard like David Cutcliffe, son. 

MONSIEUR GABBERT SUFFERS A TRES GRIEVOUS ASSAULT. Mizzou freshman quarterback Tyler Gabbert had his nose broken in a fight around 1:30 a.m. on Saturday in Columbia this Saturday. Don't shit leisurely-like in Columbia, son. People round her value their time, and don't prefer to do it all lackadaisical like. 

The police report said the disturbance, to which officers were called shortly before 1:30 a.m. Saturday, started when one of the unidentified men complained about one of the players taking too long to use the rest room.

 

Bear down and finish the drill, son. Gabbert may have to have surgery to repair the damage, but after watching his brother getting beaten weekly behind Mizzou's line last year, Monsieur Gabbert the Younger scoffs at your assault, pulls off his lacy glove, and slaps you in defiance of your mere "violence," sir. 

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FYI

The Bionic Steroid NFL is also known as the NFL.

by Brian_K on Feb 16, 2010 9:57 AM EST reply actions  

Cutcliffe

Does Cutcliffe realize that no matter when he starts they only get 15 practices?

He’s either trying to host the first spring game to avoid the April 10th spring-stravaganza for recruits, planning on spying on the rest of the ACC in March or his kids really just need the extra month of offseason conditioning.

Yeah BoYeeEEeeE

by InTheBleachers on Feb 16, 2010 9:59 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

 Tried to order the print earlier, but it’s back-ordered for six months. That Daniel Moore knows how to cater to his fans.

by brandonh on Feb 16, 2010 10:02 AM EST reply actions  

The vengance of the NCCA is slow and squishy.

TV ban? That’s no fun. USC should be forced to go on a Worst of the Midwest tour (featuring West Lafayette, DeKalb, Fort Wayne, and of course, South Bend City), which will be televised on the BTN in the 11 AM Iowa/Purdue time slot, and announced by a bikini-clad Pam Ward. ADVENTURE PLUS

Brian Kelly says no Burger King at 3 AM.

by Ancient Chinese Secret on Feb 16, 2010 10:11 AM EST reply actions  

Big 10/Big 12 Expansion/Contraction

That piece on universities leaving the Big 12 is pretty insightful. I am beginning to think this Texas (and perhaps aTm) to Big 10 thing might happen. If it does, whither UO and N? I don’t think a reconstituted Big 8 flies in this age where TV markets are everything.

BTW, I think the SEC is missing an opportunity here to swoop in and make a play for Texas and aTm.

by JD4AU on Feb 16, 2010 10:18 AM EST reply actions  

Meh

Arkansas is already a bit too ‘west’ for our tastes. Besides, no Vince Young and Texas wouldn’t have won an NC since the 70s. We already have one UT watering down the SEC with their has-been-ness, we really don’t need another.

(SEC superiority complex and a shot at the Vols! I like this topic.)

"In case you're wondering what the offense should look like, that wasn't it." - Urban Meyer

by cantcatchuf on Feb 16, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Expansion

I, for one, would love to see Texas come to the SEC, if there is to be SEC expansion. It’s a good school, good program, and we’d have an excuse to travel to Austin.

by CKGator on Feb 16, 2010 10:46 AM EST reply actions  

Apparently those boys in Iowa don't watch much Big East football
Looking at football, yes, poaching half the Big XII North might seem, on its face, to be a little underwhelming. Perhaps. We’ll just remind you that the Big 10’s other alternative for expansion is the Big East, and Big East football makes the Big XII North look like the Bionic Steroid NFL.

Because there’s no way any sane person could argue Big 12 North football is as good as the Big East, let alone significantly better. I mean, seriously. When was the last time WVU would not have won the Big 12 North (even in recent years when they did not win the Big East)? And Iowa ought to know this — it wasn’t long ago that only 5 failures from the one yard line kept them from losing to a terrible Syracuse team, and they lost to Pitt in 2008. I mean, sure, they sell more tickets on the plains, but that doesn’t mean the football teams are better.

by drothgery on Feb 16, 2010 11:11 AM EST reply actions  

Lots of people watch Big East football

Granted, they’re all West Virginia fans, but what are you going to do? It’s not like Donovan McNabbs grow on trees.

by drothgery on Feb 16, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Kansas to the Big 10 not gonna happen

Their athletics are nice, but KU doesn’t sport the academic chops to pass muster in the Big 10. I think TX, Nebraska, and Mizzou are the only Big 12 teams that would meet the Integer’s scholastic requirements, and Mizzou is right on the edge.

by Spartan D on Feb 16, 2010 11:29 AM EST reply actions  

Kansas...

…is slightly above both Nebraska and Mizzou in the US News academic rankings, though the three are pretty much interchangeable.

by PeteJayhawk on Feb 16, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

KU = NU

Neb and KU at the same in US News. But yes, they are interchangable.

by meatybob on Feb 16, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

"The Integer's scholastic requirements"

Hah.

Integer football graduation rates are nearly identical to those of the Big XII, both individually and on average. Big Ten schools, overall, might be considered better academically than those in the Big XII, but the Integer football programs ain’t no Ivy League.

Brian Kelly says no Burger King at 3 AM.

by Ancient Chinese Secret on Feb 16, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

just so everyone knows...

the term “academic stardards,” at least as it pertains to conference affiliation, has more to do with the quality and quantity of the research produced and the types of degrees, both graduate and undergraduate, that are offered at a particular school as opposed to independent rankings and graduation rates.

by Big Jon on Feb 16, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

MSU fan criticizing another institutions academics..

call Comedy Central…you might have a shot at a gig!

by TOCrusher on Feb 16, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Academics are important....and not just among student-athletes

Don’t shoot the messenger
The Big 10 doesn’t consider itself as just a “sports league.” Academics are heavily weighted because membership in the Big Ten also means membership in the Committee for Institutional Cooperation (CIC), which is an academic resource & research collaboration that includes the Big 10 schools plus former conference member University of Chicago. All the Big 10 schools are heavyweights in the research communities that mean a lot when it comes to fundraising, endowments, and such. So any expansion candidate needs to have academic credentials just as much as they need to bring athletic chops.
The lowest USNWR rankings currently in the Big 10 are Indiana, MSU, and Iowa, all tied at #71.
ND is 20, TX 47, Pitt 56, A&M 61, Colorado 77.
KS 96, Neb 96, MO 102. That represents a fairly big jump from TX or Pitt to KS.
All the public schools in the Big 10, except for Purdue (which surprises me as being omitted) are on the list of “Public Ivies” according to Wikipedia. TX, PItt, Rutgers, and Colorado are also there.
I don’t think Kansas is a viable candidate. They don’t bring anything academically, very little in football, and not a lot in terms of TV market (the Kansas City market is not very big,and splintered among a lot of support for other Big 12 teams). The hoops credentials are great, but football brings in more money. Nebraska’s football is more valuable than KU’s hoops.

When you stack KU up against TX, Nebraska, or even Mizzou as an expansion candidate, why would the Big 10 want them? Unless they were going to expand to 14 or 16 teams, then KU might be in play.

by Spartan D on Feb 16, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

But but but we have the University of Chicago!

Uh huh. Jim Delany’s lament that his Baby Einsteins can’t stack up against the Neanderthal louts of the SEC because they’re buried in homework still doesn’t fly.

Brian Kelly says no Burger King at 3 AM.

by Ancient Chinese Secret on Feb 16, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

True, but not relevant to the expansion question

Academics as it pertains to Big 10 expansion has nothing do with the academic performance of the athletes themselves. It’s all about the academics and research of the institutions as a whole.

by Spartan D on Feb 16, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Also very true.....

But think like a university president for a second, and you realize the money up for grabs for academic research dwarfs the sports bucks

by Spartan D on Feb 17, 2010 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

FYI

If it is on the internet, 4chan also has the World Trade Center flying into it.

by KarstenDD on Feb 16, 2010 12:01 PM EST reply actions  

U$C

“If you told me that our kids are running rampant, doing evil things, not graduating, and coaches are doing horrible things, that’s a little different than a case here and there,” Garrett said. “All I’m saying is, those things we looked at and we know we have that before the NCAA.”

I mean, 54% are graduating. That’s MORE THAN HALF! (http://www.fanblogs.com/ncaa/007839.php)

BTW, before SKLM says it, I am aware that 56% is not success, either (Weis’ winning percentage).

/mandated ND graduation rate post

by Domer Guy on Feb 16, 2010 12:41 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe this Big Televen raid ....

on other conferences is just a big smoke screen to force ND’s hand. Just a thought.

Respectfully, pfhokie

by pfhokie on Feb 16, 2010 1:07 PM EST reply actions  

possibly

If ND is willing, they will be the top choice.

by Spartan D on Feb 16, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Witness?

Gillroy never claimed to have seen any money, in fact he stated that he didn’t see it. Just claims to have been told it happen, you know hear say evidence. As to USC graduating players, they have the third highest ncaa apr score in the pacten. You know the only rating the ncaa cares about.

by ev on Feb 16, 2010 1:30 PM EST reply actions  

USC_NCAA

If the car don’t fit, then you must equit!

by NordeezyU on Feb 16, 2010 3:13 PM EST reply actions  

BOTC post is just an inaccurate as their previous attempt...

If they were even remotely accurate, then why do the TV ratings for CU games draw well below Nebraska’s ever since the inception of the Big XII? What those guys at “Bring on the Cats” fail to understand is that it is not enough to simply exist in the same state, people have to watch your product, and people in Denver by and large don’t watch CU.

Now you ask why does the discrepancy exist between population centers and viewership? Take someone from Denver, have them go to any other college than CU, and they couldn’t give a rat ass about the Buffs. Take someone from Omaha, have them go to any other college than NU, and that person is still willing to kill in the name of Tom Osborne.

by meatybob on Feb 16, 2010 4:11 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed.

I think that’s the thing that most ‘Missouri to the Big 10’ people fail to recognize. Missouri itself has tv sets, but their fan base is terrible.

(1) Kansas City is a KU town. People love to talk about Kansas vs. Missouri populations, but the truth is that KU owns the estimated 2 million people in the metro area (which is in both Kansas and Missouri). Heck, I’d wager to say that Kansas State or Nebraska have just as much pull in KC as Missouri.

(2) St. Louis is a pro-sports town. Heck, I’d wager that the Illini deliver just as much in this town.

(3) Missouri fans don’t travel well or support their teams when they are down. If you don’t believe me, look at their last three bowl selections: all snubs. Three independent committees overlooked them for teams that travel better. Better yet, look at their basketball attendance during Mike Anderson’s first year— some didn’t sniff 2,500.

So you’re essentially getting a fair-weather fan base with partial entry into one current market and a small entry into a new market.

NU and KU offer much more despite their smaller state populations.

NU’s football brand is a winner nationwide— very few travel better or support their team better. As another poster mentioned, NU went to pay-per-view when their smaller games weren’t getting coverage and had people buying at $30 a pop all over the country. For years, NU filled up KU’s stadium; because it was the only chance for non-season ticket holders to watch their team (they still hold the longest continuous sell out record). Believe me when I say that this fan base would slaughter their first born if it meant a national championship.

KU’s basketball brand is also a winner nationwide and particularly in the Midwest, where they have strong alumni bases (Kansas City, Dallas, Denver, Minneapolis, Chicago, St. Louis). Heck, there’s a bar up here in St. Paul that is KU themed— their following is that religious. Their football program has had record breaking attendances three years in a row and has facilities that are second to none. Their AD is one of the best in the nation and their athletic revenues were11th best in the country in 2008.

All of this is irrelevant of course, because it will come down to academics. The University presidents are calling the shots here— not Delaney.

by Gopher86 on Feb 17, 2010 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

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