THE CURIOUS INDEX, 2/10/2009
START YOUR DAY OFF RIGHT WITH A SERVING OF PURE MANDOM
"You better pass." Man, how often is it in life that you get away with such fantastic at-the-line trash talk? Not often, since the last time we told the lady at the bank that she was going to have to get a manager about that service fee we we was all like "OH HELL NAW YOU GET A MANAGER" and then she did and the manager said no and we had to pay the fee anyway. #lifeisnotfootball
PAC-12 JUST DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME RING OKAY MAYBE PAC-10 DOESN'T EITHER. Settle down, now. The Big Ten and its spiritual acolyte the Pac-10 don't make these decisions quickly. (Even if they throw out the tantalizing "12 months" there.) First there will be a board of review, and then proposals, and then review, and then careful considerations, and then some more review, and then the counterproposals, and by the time this all happens it'll be 2182, and the Unfrozen Head Of Jim Delany will kibosh the whole thing and ask someone to carry Delany-Head over to his morning paper, since he still doesn't use the internet and never will, dammit.
That said, Utah and Colorado certainly makes sense for an expanded Pac-10, especially since Colorado has always seemed a bit out of key with the rest of the Big 12. (Weed and microbrews over domestic canned beer? Pac-10 all the way, sir.)
YEEEEESSSSSSSSS. Mizzou wants a live tiger, or at least someone in student government has proposed it half-heartedly. Solve this problem, Mizzou students, by simply procuring one, chaining it to the railing leading into the main admin hall and letting the administration add up the numbers for themselves. That's what our forebears would have done back in the day, most likely resulting in the loss of at least one or two lives, but that's when life was lived closer to the Darwinian razor's edge. (AND THEY LIKED IT THAT WAY, DAMMIT.) The Mizzou student newspaper, in case you didn't notice, is called The Maneater, which is really tough, gay, or both.
I REMAIN AT LARGE. Darrell Scott is not returning to Colorado. Seriously, he is not returning to Colorado. (Checks to see if Dan Hawkins is still there.) Yes, that's most definitely not returning to Colorado, since you know how much he loves the idea of playing on special teams and not being in the rotation at tailback at all despite being the number one recruit in the country. (Checks to see if Dan Hawkins is still recruiting "motivation guys" from Idaho.) Yup, just still perusing my options here.
NOT ELIGIBLE, BUT: Though our own unfair division system disallows the points, SE Missouri State
can get some in the theoretical Fulmer Cup.
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Good grief we're going to murder CU next year.
30,000 UGA fans in Boulder should be quite the sight. Collision of cultures.
by Silver Britches on Feb 10, 2010 10:19 AM EST reply actions
It's a damn shame we all know it...
And tickets will be friggin expensive. Do want to go.
by commodore_dude on Feb 10, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
Healthy food offerings may weaken Dawg fans...
Be advised to bring your own fryer in case of emergency.
That Bama/Penn State showdown
Still shines with the brilliance of a thousand suns. Except for that one black smudge that one can ony glimpse out of the corner of your eye—like one of those 1990’s hidden 3-D posters:
Matt Millen was there.
Maneater
Is that LSU-Mike envy radiating from Columbia?
As for Pac10-12 expansion; if they take Utah and Colorado watch the TCU/BYU to the Big XII dominoes fall and then Boise State is still holding their dicks wondering where all their “break up the big boy party” ammo went.
Yeah BoYeeEEeeE
by InTheBleachers on Feb 10, 2010 10:26 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Expansion
Unfortunately, I can’t see a scenario where conference expansion dominoes fall and Boise State ends up in a power conference. At least, as long as no one is expanding beyond 12.
If Utah and Colorado go to the Pac-12, the Big 12 would most likely go to BYU or TCU as replacements. Even if Mizzou jumps to the Big Ten, BSU is still on the outside looking in. The football program completely outgrew the school in stature, and there’s no way the haughty Pac-10 folks will take a university with no academic reputation. It’s probably too far for the Big 12, especially with TCU in its backyard and BYU a shorter flight away.
Team Speed Kills
SBNation's SEC Blog
Really?
Didn’t the Pac-10 take Arizona State?
My Dawgs put a hickey on 'em!
by Gen. Stoopnagle on Feb 10, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
I doubt it’s Boise State for the PAC 10. The media market is just too small.
The team that makes a lot sense is San Diego State. Big media market, proximity to the LA schools, good facilities. UNLV would be good too, and if there were some stadium upgrades, they could hold the PAC 10 championship game in Vegas, which would be a good time.
by ESS EEE SEE Speed on Feb 10, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
I can't imagine the non-TX Big 12 schools wanting TCU
Or Houston or SMU for that matter. As much as it would make sense in a theoretical Colorado/Mizzou exodus to just shove the OK schools to the North and add two of those. So yeah, BYU and Arkansas at least have some semblance of making sense in the North.
by commodore_dude on Feb 10, 2010 10:32 AM EST reply actions
Derp
Need to get used to the whole threaded comments thing now.
by commodore_dude on Feb 10, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
Arkansas won’t leave the SEC. As much as the school fits in with the Big 12 South teams better than it does with anyone in the SEC East, the SEC brings more money to the table.
Team Speed Kills
SBNation's SEC Blog
Arky
The money is the only thing making them stay fans miss the Texas and Texas A&M rivalries.
Yeah BoYeeEEeeE
by InTheBleachers on Feb 10, 2010 10:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oh I don't understand why anyone would leave us
But I just hear a fair bit of chatter about it, so I’m goin’ with it until further evidence is presented.
by commodore_dude on Feb 10, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Re: Boulder
You shouldn’t be in the Big 12 if there is any sort of hill or incline anywhere near your campus.
Also, if you want to expand the Pac-10, you need to keep the weird “two schools close together” synergy that they have that ensures there’s always a game going on in AZ, OR, WA, LA, and SF. That’s why I would pick Nevada and UNLV. It’s bottom feeding, but they would get better from the recruiting boost, and USC road tripping to Vegas every other year would be gold.
Actually...
Can’t believe I didn’t think of this, but Neuheisel in Vegas would be not gold, but platinum.
I agree
the only two schools that make sense to me are Texas and A & M. It keeps the “two schools close together.” Because wherever you expand in the far west distances are huge. Might as well go for the big prize. Bigger television market, Austin fits in culturally with the rest of the Pac-10, and Texas originally wanted to go to the Pac-10. I also like the idea of having the Pac-12 dominate recruiting in both California and Texas. Besides Cal plays Texas in 2015 and 2016 so it might as well be a conference game.
GO BEARS!
Sancto Tedford
by Anonymous IV at Mono Lake on Feb 10, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Texas and A&M?
Go ahead and grab Notre Dame, Michigan, Florida State, and Florida while you’re at it.
by GwinnettGamecock on Feb 10, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
I love how this conference realignment has had someone talking about Texas wanting to go to the SEC, ACC, Big 10, Pac-10, and the Sun Belt.
by Board Certified Scrotologist on Feb 10, 2010 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
You also shouldn’t have really been added to the Big Eight if you don’t bitch and whine about football played above 20 degrees.
Tracy Porter's gonna score! TRACY PORTER'S GONNA SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (HT Takimoto)
by AllSaintsDay on Feb 10, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Mildly interesting fact:
KU’s campus is actually much hillier than CU’s.
And I don’t understand why any conference would actually want the Buffaloes right now- their administration has made it clear that they have almost no interest in having a competitive athletic department for the foreseeable future.
"Here are our top priorities: recruit, beat Missouri, recruit, win the North, recruit, win the Big 12, and in most cases if you win the Big 12 then you're playing for a National Championship. And then we're going to recruit."
by KennyGregoryRockThaCradle on Feb 10, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Oh how I love conference realignment.
I see a cloaked and hooded Jim Delaney lovingly petting a pile of greenbacks and saying to young, conflicted Mizzou, “You want this…don’t you?”
If any of these half-assed WE GON EXPAND TO 20 TEAMS schemes come to pass, the Big East is going to be very much left out in the cold. No matter what, though, every day that ND holds out on the Big Integer just to be difficult is a good day.
Brian Kelly says no Burger King at 3 AM.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Feb 10, 2010 10:46 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I wonder if CU really would go...
There isn’t the TV package disparity between the big xii vs the Pac Ten. In fact, I think the Big XII has a better TV package than the Pac Ten and closer schools. Personally, in 20 years, with population demographics being what they are, the MWC will probably be just as lucrative as the Big XII and the Pac 10 anyway.
Sadly
I can’t take credit for that one. Other acceptable names include:
-Big N
-Big Televen
-Big Eleventeen
-Chunky Fratboys Yelling Strange Things in Cold Weather
-Jim Delaney’s Pleasure Dungeon
Brian Kelly says no Burger King at 3 AM.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Feb 10, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Derp
That was supposed to be a reply to CincySooner. FAIL.
Brian Kelly says no Burger King at 3 AM.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Feb 10, 2010 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
Left Out
Thick Ankled Milk Drinkers League
Yeah BoYeeEEeeE
by InTheBleachers on Feb 10, 2010 11:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
TV packages...
Overall the Big XII has better contracts since they have both the mouse and Fox Sports but the Pac-10 has better markets, especially if they add SLC and Denver. Since Tom Hansen, the octogenarian Jim Delaney of the West, retired last year the tv contracts have to get better.
At least...
The Pac-10’s TV contract is up for renewal a few years sooner, so they have more of a reason to try and expand for 2012 ASAP.
by commodore_dude on Feb 10, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
I think the demographics
are one thing that could force a move. The national perception is already that the top of the Mountain West is as good as or better than the non-Southern Cal Pac-10. If the Pac-10 does not move quickly, the Mountain West will soon qualify for BCS status. Once that happens, the recruiting and money will pick up and it could become much more difficult to convince schools to leave a conference they dominate for an uncertain situation in the Pac-10.
by GwinnettGamecock on Feb 10, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Matt Millen
Reportedly went up to JoePa and said, “Run it up the middle. Barry Krauss is a pussy”. The start of a brilliant career.
Fulmer Cup
Burglary and assault? What would JMU’s basketball team earn for this:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0209101snow1.html
by Birdman Cometh on Feb 10, 2010 11:31 AM EST reply actions
Oh, bleep you and your YouTube video....
and let me tell a story. I’m a PSU fan in Indiana. The summer of ‘07 the Colts caravan thing was touring the state, saying you can maybe meet someone from the team, maybe meet some Colts alumni, see different Colts exhibits, etc. So I took my son when it came to our area. Hottest day of the year. Waited for a couple hours. Got to the Colts Alumni table. There, in front of me and my then 6-year-old son, is Barry F. Krause. And I couldn’t even say any tire changin’ words. We talked, he was very gracious, but wow, that was a surprise shovel to my Penn State head that day.
"Missouri has no laws for tiger ownership. There is more difficulty involved in legally owning a squirrel as a pet than there is a tiger, Winkeler said."
Surely I can’t be the only one who noticed the delicious combination of irony and crazy contained in the sentence above?
Missouri Laws
Does the wonderful, fantastic Missouri law allowing non-drivers in automobiles to have open containers of alcohol apply to live tigers riding in automobiles as well?
Brian Kelly says no Burger King at 3 AM.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Feb 10, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Transcendent moment
JoPa and Bear, in one helluva’ ugly defensive battle, and one brilliant, brilliant goal line stand. National title on the line.
What’s not to love here?
"Hush now, let it go now. I know it's time to go. Time to let this fall from my hands" VNV Nation, "From My Hands"
by Stuck in the Plains on Feb 10, 2010 1:41 PM EST reply actions
Everyone always stops at 12, why?
Nothing stopping a conference by expanding to 14 and going to 7 team divisions.
Heck, the Big East will probably have 30 basketball teams at some point in the future.
Passing? Who needs passing?
by RamblinWreck007 on Feb 10, 2010 3:03 PM EST reply actions
The WAC tried it. It went…poorly.
Tracy Porter's gonna score! TRACY PORTER'S GONNA SCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (HT Takimoto)
by AllSaintsDay on Feb 10, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Nahh, 16 basketball teams seems to be just right to the Big East. We are needing one more football team to even out everyone’s home/away schedules. If the next football school in also wants to play Bball, we’ll probably dump one of the non-football-playing bottom-feeders.
"I like the taste of danger most of all." - Jonatha Brooke
by MtnEer_in_SC on Feb 10, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
8, 9, 10, and 12 work nicely for scheduling
More or less (or 11) cause some real problems.
Explaining a bit
With 7-team divisions and an 8-game football schedule, it’s likely you won’t play some conference teams more than once every four years (save for chance encounters in the conference championship game). With 6-team divisions and an 8 game season, you play everyone at least every other year if you don’t have protected rivalries, and every three years if you do.
With 12 teams and divisions, a 16-game basketball schedule (which is typical) is home and home in your division and everyone in the other division once. With 14, that takes a 19-game schedule (no major conference plays more than 18 games currently; most play 16).
God no
12 works out juuuuust right. Thinking about the old WAC, or the current MAC retardation, makes my head hurt. As do all of the calls for the Big Integer (using that 4evar) to take 3 or 5 schools.
by commodore_dude on Feb 10, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
If you don't play everybody every year...
…it’s not a proper league, dammit. The one thing that would really upset me about PAC-10 expansion would be the loss of the one conference that does it right.
You could always follow the Sun Belt
by GwinnettGamecock on Feb 10, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
Or, like, the Ivy League
Progress is clearly a bad thing, k?
by commodore_dude on Feb 10, 2010 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
Or the Big East
Granted, in basketball we play everyone only once then do three rematches (which is why I wouldn’t mind going to the Big Ten much; if the Orange are only going to play UConn or Georgetown once in basketball — and we aren’t playing them both twice most years — then we can do it out of conference).
Well, I wasn’t thinking about Division I-AA, but I actually don’t have a problem with the Ivy League. They also do it right, even if they are insufferable in so many other ways.
As for the Sun Belt…the sheer ridiculousness of joining together the concepts of “Sun Belt football” and “doing it right” makes all efforts at logical argument implode. Ever since Idaho escaped to the WAC, I’ve tried to think about the Sun Belt as little as humanly possible.

















