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WILL MUSCHAMP: WE NOW ORDER THE BLOWFISH

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This isn't [NAME REDACTED 2.0] Let's strangle that misbegotten infant of a comparison before it grows, learns to walk, and starts breaking furniture all over the place. When Jeremy Foley made a decision only a man in the darkest depths of a ketamine binge would made and brought the once-demoted former defensive coordinator of the early 90s Gators into the office of head coach, [REDACTED] already had a reputation for enthusiasm over production. His Saints defenses collapsed with leads; his Florida defense was so fundamentally unsound and sloppy he ended up being demoted to special teams coach, where he excelled due to his natural enthusiasm and penchant for headbutting players (and anything else within forehead's reach.) His coaching pedigree read: Haslett, Spurrier, Majors, and Cooper. His trajectory, prior to Foley's hiring stuntwork, was that of a lifelong assistant. His corollary in the professional world was upwardly mobile middle management, probably "crushing it" in management seminars and "listening to motivational tapes" to "increase synergy and unleash the dynamic sales force of this company." 

Muschamp's pedigree is far kinder to the eye: defensive coordinator for LSU's national championship defense under Nick Saban, now-former holder of the Dauphin position at Texas and favorite of Mack Brown*, and right-hand man to Tommy Tuberville from 2006-07. He is no journeyman; his natural corollary is that of the the blueblooded heir apparent, illustriously pedigreed and now abandoning the safety of the guaranteed big firm for a equally glitzy but cutthroat competitor where safety is no guarantee.

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His defenses have been superb wherever he has gone, often without offensive support, and his recruiting chops are sound and relentless. It is the consensus of his peers that a head coaching job was when, not if. Texas had already handed him the keys, but kept him on the learner's permit until their own Don was content with retirement. The Longhorns' delay in getting him a real license is why we're having this discussion today, and why Muschamp's mud-spattered truck with the lift-kit will be parked beneath the stained gray concrete eaves of Ben Hill Griffin Stadium this year.

AND NOW FOR THE HORRENDOUS LEAP INTO THE HYPOTHETICAL AND AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT WE WILL NEVER EVER PLAY POKER OR ANY OTHER GAME OF CHANCE WITH JEREMY FOLEY

This is always about risk. If it's not, then you hire Chan Gailey. (A Florida alum; if this goes really badly, it's still better than hiring Chan Gailey. Just say that to yourself: it's still going to be better than hiring Chan Gailey come flood or fire.) If you're dumb about it, you play the part of the overly provocative-but-brainless innovator and hire pointlessly odd coaches, and yes we're writing about Notre Dame here.

In Foley's case, we think the thought process was: I should hire 1999 Bob Stoops. Not current Bob Stoops, he of the comfortable Oklahoma lordship, the three million dollar house, the endless parade of plug-and-play assistants who feed a machine comfortably gobbling up Big 12 titles every other year and making the BCS almost effortlessly. Hiring this Stoops would have been a chronological error.

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The Stoops Foley wanted was the man we watched convince a room full of students--many of whom were simply football fanboys incapable of running a gasser without cramping and puking--that yes, they could play an effective Cover 2 press, and that it truly was the most effective defense ever devised by man, beast, or Buddy Ryan. That was 1996, and a blue-pantsed Stoops in a white Florida polo was one of the more riveting coaching presences we've ever seen with the naked eye. He was on fucking fire for football death, and his imminent departure to parts unknown for glory and titles was assumed. 

That guy's not around anymore. The closest thing is Muschamp, the coach who as an assistant at Valdosta State once taped a broken headset to his skull with white athletic tape in the name of necessity, the guy who in his tenure there once called up his head coach Chris Hatcher after a no-contact practice and yelled into the phone for five minutes straight about how the referee was shorting his defense sacks in a completely fake non-game situation that would ultimately count for nothing. Muschamp was rotting on the vine at Texas, and is a bomb waiting to go off somewhere. Florida lit the fuse on that bomb and is running to the horizon hoping for the best.*

*How it explodes is the issue.

The other choices were nowhere nearly as pat as anyone wanted to make them. Mullen was allegedly not well-liked by administration types. Petersen remains so ensconced at Boise that he may never leave. Harbaugh has no connections to Florida whatsoever, and would have left for Michigan or perhaps the NFL without hesitation. Whittingham is heading a program entering the Pac-10, and needs no cross-country transfer in order to compete for national titles. Stoops isn't going anywhere, and if you say Jon Gruden you are not very smart and need to go floss with power lines. 

The truth is that there are no guarantees, but the next truth is that Muschamp is even less of a guarantee than any of these because he has never been a head coach at any level before, and that thought alone should make Florida fans shit anvils this morning. Ours was magnificent: a weighty rhino's head of finely hewn iron, it's in the backyard lurking like the head of a great black Bullet Bill caught in mid-air. You'll feel clean as well-maintained natural gas pipeline once you pass it.

The same was true of [NAME REDACTED,] and of Charlie Weis at Notre Dame. It was also true of Stoops when he took over at Oklahoma. To say you have any idea how this will turn out is insane, and enough wagering's been done here. Let's just leave it at what is known: he's potentially brilliant, young enough to happily give the pound of flesh the job takes out of you, and is not demonstrably dumb like some people you've hired in the past. What is also known: this hire, unlike Foley's last, is a massive roll of the dice on an unknown quantity, a naked skydive into a raging forest fire armed with a car-sized fire extinguisher compared to the easy nod to Urban Meyer in 2005. This simulation features live fire, bears, and the worst beast of all, real live existential dread of the unknown. That won't pass for quite some time, we're afraid.

Muschamp, like all coaching decisions, is a wager, but damn, Jeremy Foley. That's not the table minimum. That's the fucking mortgage right there.  We all just ordered the fugu together, and if the chef gets it right you'll taste the faintest hint of the fish's fatal poison on your tongue in a sublime culinary experience unlike any other. If he gets it wrong, we die.

 

HT to @BurritoBrosShit for the fugu analogy.

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the only question is....

will he control his verbal assaults better when he’s Da Man?

and… will the tears of UGA fans keep the Chattahoochee at levels high enough to satisfy Ala and Panhandle residents for the next decade?

by WahEgul on Dec 12, 2010 10:40 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

second that

I have already gotten several texts from UGA fans saying how pisses they are. They, unlike Florida, wouldn’t have minded the risky hire since he’s their guy.

by granman29 on Dec 12, 2010 10:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

second that

I have already gotten several texts from UGA fans saying how pissed they are. They, unlike Florida, wouldn’t have minded the risky hire since he’s their guy.

by granman29 on Dec 12, 2010 10:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Georgia fans should rejoice.

Mushamps defenses were good against all teams except Georgia.

by Board Certified Scrotologist on Dec 12, 2010 4:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Actually that means Tennessee fans should rejoice

Since the advent of the SEC Championship Game, every year that Georgia has beaten Florida, Tennessee has won the SEC East

Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?

by jd is legend on Dec 12, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, yes.

My comment was really meant in a self-deprecating fashion, pointing out that such a statement is only looking at three seasons in eighteen years. /facepalm.

by hailtogeorgia on Dec 13, 2010 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

xkcd for the win

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by SpartanDan on Dec 14, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm just glad that one of Ray Goff's boys is finally getting a head coaching nod.

And that Mike Bobo’s offenses have averaged 40 a game against Muschamp-coordinated defenses.

by MaconDawg on Dec 12, 2010 10:41 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Can we nip one thing in the bud here?

“Averaging 40 a game” = scoring 82 points in two games with Matthew Stafford throwing passes and Knowshon Moreno running. That is both a small sample size and a favorable situation for Dawgs that cannot be replicated. Aaron Murray is the truth, I will concede, but have you seen lines like 2006 and 2007 UGA had? Have you seen anyone approaching Moreno’s cometary brilliance?

Feel free to continue focusing on those losses — bad, no doubt; beatings, to be sure. Florida fans may remember that those 2006 and 2007 Auburn defenses still finished in the top 10 nationally in scoring defense and managed to beat and come within the original Les Miles Myocardial Infarction Special of beating the national champions in those years.

Also, a certain Dawgs fan who has been blogging since I was a zygote is saying “I don’t mind telling you that I think Will Muschamp will be very, very good.”

by Andy Hutchins on Dec 12, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Why can't it be replicated?

Why is a small sample size less reliable than no sample size? And why does Kyle’s hunch have anything to do with what I said? And why don’t you know that Georgia started 4 freshmen on the O line in 2007? Seriously dude.

Oh, and it bears noting that Knowshon did not even play in 2006 and Murray’s freshman season was statistically better than either Stafford’s 2006 or 2007 numbers.

by MaconDawg on Dec 12, 2010 11:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Shoot.

I forgot Knowshon wasn’t around in 2006; mea culpa. I also forgot that the four freshmen on Georgia’s line in 2007 were so terrible that that Georgia team won 11 games and finished second in the AP Poll. They must have sucked!

Oh, and it bears noting that the 37 points in 2006 included a pick-six, so Mike Bobo’s offenses are actually averaging 36 points per game against Muschamp Ds at Auburn. It also bears noting that the wunderkind currently taking snaps for the red and black couldn’t beat the worst Florida team since the Zook days, committing four turnovers to go along with his three touchdowns, if you’re into small sample sizes.

Snarky-snark aside: It could be replicated. It could not be replicated. But I’m going to refrain from putting too much emphasis on any few games in either forming a positive or a negative projection for Muschamp at Florida — instead hoping that the continued interest in employing Muschamp demonstrated by Nick Saban, Mack Brown, and now Jeremy Foley is a fairly good sign of his credentials, and that the people like Kyle who have been paying attention to Muschamp for a while are right — and recognize that we are in uncharted waters nonetheless.

Bragging about Bobo’s two big wins against Muschamp is the sort of December to October stuff that will make message boards and comments sections smugly happy. It may mean nothing whatsoever when the Muschamp defense at Florida that should still be stocked with blue-chippers meets the Bobo offense at Georgia next fall.

Here’s hoping Bobo offenses are averaging 24 a game against Muschamp defenses after the 2011 WLOCP.

by Andy Hutchins on Dec 12, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

So what Muschamp's done against the 11 teams that aren't Georgia is dispositive. But what Murray did against 11 teams

that aren’t Florida is not. Got it.

Look, I think we can agree that this could go either of two ways: Very well or pretty well. Muschamp is not going to be a disaster. Unlike some Georgia fans I want him to go 11-1 every year. But the bottom line is that i 2003, 2006 and 2007, which is all we have to go on, Muschamp coordinated teams got firebombed by Richt/Bobo coordinated offenses. I’m sorry that I don’t have a bigger sample size. I blame Muschamp for having not yet coached 34 games against Georgia. Variables and all Muschamp’s defenses have not stopped the one team on Florida’s schedule I care about.

by MaconDawg on Dec 12, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

What you are both forgetting

Is that he (probably) wont be coordinating the defense anymore. He’ll be head coaching. And he is currently undefeated as a head coach, so there.

by Mikanakinos on Dec 12, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh I don't think either of us forgot that fact.

I can’t speak for Andy, but I’m just choosing to ignore the hell out of it. I also forgot to acknowledge that Tra Battle (and Brandon Cox) didn’t do Will any favors in 2006. That one was not entirely on the Auburn D, though they didn’t exactly pitch a shut out.

by MaconDawg on Dec 12, 2010 12:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Neither had

Richt, Pelini, Fisher, Chip Kelly, Peterson, Stoops

"Did you spill the whisky? You did, didn’t you? Okay, go ahead and eat the floormats."

by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 12, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Not so fast, my friend

Bo Pelini won the Alamo Bowl as interim Nebraska HC four years before he got his first head coaching job

by Albino Tornado on Dec 12, 2010 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

That was the joke

They were arguing about sample sizes as a defensive coordinator. I thought the “so there” at the end would emphasize the sarcasm. My jokes always sound funnier in my head…

by Mikanakinos on Dec 12, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

/distortion'd

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by Joey C. on Dec 12, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

One caveat

Brandon Cox through four interceptions in the 2006 Auburn game. Not that I’m dissing the Bobo/Stafford offensive pair, but it’s not hard to score forty points on a team when Tra Battle is their quarterback’s leading receiver.

I still feel way better about our chances against Florida with Muschamp rather than Meyer at the helm – words I’m sure I will eat.

by JoeDawg15 on Dec 12, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

He also threw four INTs in the 2007 game

Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?

by jd is legend on Dec 12, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes it does

8 INTs in two games is a fucking lot.

Weoejuwejhdjwe!

by Chekhov's Spread Gun Option on Dec 12, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

meh...

not entirely, but it does help.

That’s a few extra possessions.

by Caban on Dec 12, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay

2006 Georgia yards per play (ypp): 5.3
2006 Georgia ypp vs. Auburn: 6.8

2007 Georgia ypp: 5.6
2007 Georgia ypp vs. Auburn: 6.7

Muschamp’s Auburn defense gave up over an extra yard per play to Georgia than they averaged. Whether Brandon Cox threw zero interceptions or fifty, Georgia gashed our defense those two years. Now stop making me defend those chumps.

(stats via cfbstats.com and ESPN.com)

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by jd is legend on Dec 12, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

my point was more that

the defense was tired as hell because they were on the field so much. Tired = sloppy playing (thought it did look like they had visited the Tackling Institute for One Armed Parapeligics).

by SEC Supremacist on Dec 13, 2010 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

You’re omitting the defense at LSU that David Greene carved into small itty bitty pieces in ’04. Of course, if you ask Mark May, UGA could never play that well again.

And the very next week, he was proven correct.

/diesalittleinside
//hatestennesseetoo

On the other side, I think WM was in charge of LSU’s ’03 defense that held UGA back in Death Valley, then more or less shut it down in the championship game.

I don't have time for any of this... and yet... here I am.

by Gen. Stoopnagle on Dec 12, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Am I?

I don't have time for any of this... and yet... here I am.

by Gen. Stoopnagle on Dec 12, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Some peoples

they don’t done so goods wif the readin’s.

My new blog: Those Other Guys. Critiques welcome.

by jonfmorse on Dec 12, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

psst! Bobo didn’t start calling plays until the last two games of ’06. But as Orson has said, Richt/Bobo, whatever.

I don't have time for any of this... and yet... here I am.

by Gen. Stoopnagle on Dec 12, 2010 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I was referring

to the fact that you had, in fact, not omitted them.

My new blog: Those Other Guys. Critiques welcome.

by jonfmorse on Dec 12, 2010 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, I know.

I was further highlighting that our friend, besides not reading thoroughly, also whiffed on a small fact.

The “psst” was so only you would hear me.

I don't have time for any of this... and yet... here I am.

by Gen. Stoopnagle on Dec 13, 2010 6:17 AM EST up reply actions  

shit.

With this gawdamn head cold, everyone sounds like they’re screaming anyway.

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by jonfmorse on Dec 13, 2010 6:35 AM EST up reply actions  

was that really Muschamp

or a Saban controlled Marionette Muschamp at LSU

by mdarby on Dec 12, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Fishin's good, eh?

Looks like you bagged the limit on the first cast.

Either love your players or get out of coaching.

by Golden Hand on Dec 12, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

We need an EDSBS live.

Peter’s tears of unfathomable sadness must be tasted.

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by cantcatchuf on Dec 12, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Just saying...

Gerg was Texas’ DC before Syracuse hired him.

by zibby on Dec 12, 2010 10:54 AM EST reply actions  

So what?

Does that mean all future Texas DCs promoted to head coaching positions will be exact replications of GERG? You know who was Florida’s OC before Addazio?

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by Peter Gray on Dec 12, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I was hoping this comment meant

You were suggesting that Texas re-hire GERG to be their D-coordinator. Because, you know, that would be sweet.

"You can't be afraid to play somebody because they've got 3 really good players. How are you going to win if you're afraid to play? We're not going to be afraid to play - we're going to fight, we're going to attack, we're going to throw it out there and see what happens." - Carlos Boozer

by Jivas on Dec 12, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Schadenfreude rec?

Ja, Schadenfreude rec.

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by Go Big Rev on Dec 12, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I endorse this idea because then he's not Michigan's DC.

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by SPORTSGEEK42 on Dec 12, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah

I don’t think many ’Cuse fans hate Texas. Whereas at least some of us (well, okay, at least me) are from Ohio and therefore at least have some residual dislike of Michigan.

GERG at UConn would be nice, though.

by drothgery on Dec 12, 2010 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Inching back from the ledge

As always, sir, you make a compelling argument, and one I shall use as ballast this off-season to counteract the drowning weights of my substantial doubts. I will not lie; last night’s announcement was marked not with celebratory champagne or contemplative scotch, but rather with whiskey of consternation. Today, however, and after considering your views, I shall sip Bailey’s, the chosen drink of the non-committed, and ease into the long season of disengaged wait-and-see.

Well, at least until our new coach chooses his new OC.

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by Jack Fact on Dec 12, 2010 11:10 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I'm actually thrilled with the hire

And think he will do a fantastic job. I mean hell, Auburn was pissed with Chizik and look where they are now. It’s all about the assistants.

And worst case scenario, he recruits like a bat out of hell for 2 or 3 years, gets fired, and we actually bring someone good in. Worked pretty well last time eh?

by moneyBEgreen on Dec 12, 2010 11:16 AM EST reply actions  

Does he have a family to hurt by taking a HC position?

Because if I learned anything this past week, it’s that D1-A coaching is the most stressful and time counsuming job one can have. Maybe Will should have gone for a less “intense” occupation, like putting out oil well fires, or joining the bomb squad.

Passing? Who needs passing?

by RamblinWreck007 on Dec 12, 2010 11:29 AM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Having spent some time in EOD

I can say that it’s really not all that stressful; robots do many of the more dangerous tasks these days.

That said, robots do break down. See Meyer, Urban v. 2010

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by Jack Fact on Dec 12, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions   4 recs

Fearless Leader made a great observation I share.

It appears Foley prefers young guys eager to prove themselves over proven guys in the twilight of their career. A safe pick would have been Petrino or another proven HC elsewhere who is in his 50s. However, Foley hired his second straight guy still in his 30’s willing to give the “pound of flesh” to make the program powerful. While we do not know how it will turn out, I think it was a bold move that I respect.
Where I lose a little respect is if Will hires Mr. Happy Feet Applewhite. He was run out of Tuscaloosa after one year for being a wimp who could not handle Saban. He went home to the friendly confines of UT where he looked great with McCoy and infantile with his replacement. I hope for UF’s sake that Applewhite has grown a pair…

by ApothecaryMark on Dec 12, 2010 11:33 AM EST reply actions  

Muschamp's D hasn't always been great

2010’s D was pretty bad, esp fundamentally. Wrong gap assignments, poor tackling. And 2009’s D was probably more a product of bad offenses vs. a great UT defense. See the 2009 offensive versions of Neb and OU, and the Big XII in general. The only good offense in the conference last year was Tech, and they still had well north of 400 yards against Muschamp’s D.

by meatybob on Dec 12, 2010 11:35 AM EST reply actions  

The statistical 7th ranked

defense in 2010 was ‘pretty bad’?

"Did you spill the whisky? You did, didn’t you? Okay, go ahead and eat the floormats."

by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 12, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Dude, they were 51st in scoring defense, and since scoring is what matters...

that is not good. Granted the bad UT offense had something to do with it, but teams all year would have 10 minutes drives (except Nebraska), pass maybe once, and still score. (why they were ranked 44th in rushing D) Teams like KSU never even bothered to pass and they blew out UT this year.

So yeah, UT wasn’t that good on defense.

by meatybob on Dec 12, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

i need

to spend some time alone with a spreadsheet today. thank goodness its raining so I can’t get anything else done.

"Did you spill the whisky? You did, didn’t you? Okay, go ahead and eat the floormats."

by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 12, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't get me wrong

Obviously he has had good defenses during his tenure. Personally, I think that his strength is recruiting and motivating. X’s and O’s, I am not so sure.

by meatybob on Dec 12, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

As someone who is a Bears fan

I can tell you that a terrible offense takes a huge toll on defenses. People keep wondering why the Bears defense looks awful one season and is “in decline”, then they come back the next year with a competent offense and are all of the sudden a top 5 defense. If the offense can’t score or get 1st downs, the defense will suffer due to fatigue.

by Mikanakinos on Dec 12, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

This, a hundred times

As OGC says below, giving up a score on 5-10 yds is tough to count against them, as is staying on the field way too long. The Gators’ D would probably have been statistically better this year if not for all the 3 & outs (conversely the scoring offense looked much better than reality b/c of the field position the D put us in more often than not).

"Did you spill the whisky? You did, didn’t you? Okay, go ahead and eat the floormats."

by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 12, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I would believe this more...

but teams like ISU and KSU scored early and often. Its not like UT was simply blown out in the 2nd half, they were giving up points in the 1st half in droves.

by meatybob on Dec 12, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Mostly on short fields, though.

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by SpartanDan on Dec 12, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually, "Good ydg D, Mediocre scoring D" is exactly the profile one would expect of a very good defense hamstrung by a fountain-of-turnovers offense.

The “it’s the goddamn offense” explanation stares one in the face here. I don’t have the statistics in front of me, but I recall multiple gilbert-pick-near-texas-EZ cases. I mean, you can’t blame Muschamp for precluding the opponent from gaining 5-15 yards after such a momentum shift.

by Owls and Goephs and Craep on Dec 12, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

But they weren't a good ypg rushing D.

They are somewhere in the mid 40 rushing. They were a top passing D, but nobody had to bother to pass on them because they could rush at will (for the most part) and eat up clock.

So, yeah, there are problems with UT’s D this year.

by meatybob on Dec 12, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Wouldn't it make sense that they would have a poor showing in rushing yards per game?

Between the offense turning the ball over like crazy (as discussed above) and the opposing offense running every single down, yards will get racked up even against quality defenses. Seems to me its more proper to look at a rate stat, and the Longhorns only gave up 3.48 yards per carry this season. That’s tied for 18th in the country. Not all that bad.

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by Joey C. on Dec 12, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Or they were always running out the clock because the Texas offense had staked them to an insurmountable lead.

The defense wasn’t incredible this year, but they were pretty damn good. But there are only so many times you can bail out your offense when they’re giving the ball up in their own territory.

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by SpartanDan on Dec 12, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

"the bad UT offense had something to do with it"

Fortunately for UF, the Gators offense is rock solid coming out of 2010.

by NCT on Dec 12, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

KSU blew out Texas for three reasons, none of which can really be blamed on Muschamp.

One, Snyder sprung a surprise and threw out a starting QB who nobody had game film on at all. The only KSU QB Muschamp even had the ability to prepare for was Carson “The Human Statue” Coffman.

Two, Garrett Gilbert was clearly on the KSU payroll that night; most of KSU’s scoring was a direct result of Gilbert giving them the ball.

Three, it was Texas, and it was Kansas State.

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by jonfmorse on Dec 12, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

FL is just immitating Auburn.

1) Auburn has a decent season
2) Texas hires away Auburn’s defensive coordinator
3) Texas does well with them
4) Said defensive coordinator is offered a head coaching job at a lower mid-major school
5) Now a head coach, they are hired away to a major school

It worked well with us for Chizik. FL just decided to skip step 4 and save Muschamp a year in Colorado or Kansas.

by SEC Supremacist on Dec 12, 2010 11:35 AM EST reply actions  

C'mon

Florida’s now middle-aged money.

by Owls and Goephs and Craep on Dec 12, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

This is a fun game. Let's compare our schools to their business tycoon analogues

I’ll start. Notre Dame is John D. Rockefeller. Once the richest and most powerful, but now simply a chapter in a history book.

Omnis Vestri Substructio Es Servus Ad Nobis

by stempke on Dec 12, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

OOOOOH

Oregon is Phil Knight. Obvious’d

"Did you spill the whisky? You did, didn’t you? Okay, go ahead and eat the floormats."

by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 12, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Florida is Trump?

Arrogant, mostly successful but subject to volatile swings in wealth & prosperity

"Did you spill the whisky? You did, didn’t you? Okay, go ahead and eat the floormats."

by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 12, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's see

Are they both completely oblivious to how ridiculous they look to everyone else

Check and Check

Yep you nailed it, Florida is Trump

Omnis Vestri Substructio Es Servus Ad Nobis

by stempke on Dec 12, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions   4 recs

I saw possibly

the worst wipe out i’ve ever seen in Vegas. Random people walked by our roulette table after it landed on black something like 11 or 12 straight times.
drop $100 on red. Black
drop $200 on red. Black
pool together the last of the chips they had between the three of them, something like $380 on red. Black.
Pull last $26 in cash out of girlfriend’s wallet put on red. BLACK AGAIN.

Smartest thing casinos ever did was putting that score tracker light up at tables. Makes people think they can game it.

"Did you spill the whisky? You did, didn’t you? Okay, go ahead and eat the floormats."

by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 12, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll get you for this one

"Did you spill the whisky? You did, didn’t you? Okay, go ahead and eat the floormats."

by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 12, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Its not that we're oblivious

Its that we’re too damn rich to mind others’ opinions.

"Did you spill the whisky? You did, didn’t you? Okay, go ahead and eat the floormats."

by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 12, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Took you forty minutes to formulate that

Didn’t realize I’d struck such a nerve

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by stempke on Dec 12, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I forgot to add "ooooh snap"

To let you know it was late.

But I’ll get you for this one too. Damnit. Baby duty. Distracted.

"Did you spill the whisky? You did, didn’t you? Okay, go ahead and eat the floormats."

by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 12, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Georgia is Michael Milken

Everybody heard of him in the ‘80s, vaguely crooked but never given any major hard time, and still around trying to tell everyone he’s a big deal and doesn’t cheat any more.

Either love your players or get out of coaching.

by Golden Hand on Dec 12, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Who runs this state?

What does that make Tech? Bernie “Chop Block” Madoff?

by ya lawya on Dec 12, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Vandy is

Bill Gates (nerdy, tons of money).

Carolina is Semmi from Coming to America (pretends to be royalty but is outed in the end).

Come to think of it, you could probably summarize all of CFB or at least the SEC with Coming to America.

I haven't a particle of confidence in a man who has no redeeming petty vices whatsoever
-Mark Twain

Also, Fuck Clemson.

by Gamecock2002 on Dec 13, 2010 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Almost as funny

as continuing to call Auburn “new money”

"Did you spill the whisky? You did, didn’t you? Okay, go ahead and eat the floormats."

by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 12, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

no its not

Holly hates me

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THE Oscar Whiskey

by Oscar Whiskey on Dec 12, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, I think you guys should've played for the title against USC (and would've won) instead of Oklahoma.

But other than that, the roof has been the Lloyd Carr Michigan upper-level mediocrity or having a fucking amazing football team that the NCAA wouldn’t let play for the title. It’s not always been your fault and you guys are a top-of-the-level program, but finishing the deal has not been the school on the Plains strong point.

"You're just a man in a room with a checkbook."

by The Ghost of Brodie Croyle's Knees on Dec 12, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I CANNOT REC THIS HARD ENOUGH

OR TYPE THIS BIG ENOUGH BECAUSE IT’S ALWAYS ABSOLUTELY TRUE GOD DAMN YOU BRANDON COX I HATE YOUR ASS!

by SEC Supremacist on Dec 12, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Every time I hear a Gator fan talk about wishing death upon your kicker.

I get all warm and tingly inside.

"You're just a man in a room with a checkbook."

by The Ghost of Brodie Croyle's Knees on Dec 12, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That's a rec

’Cause I laugh my ass off at it every time. Think Spencer is going to be glad to see Wes Byrum graduate at the end of this year?

Now hopefuly Parkey can continue the tears next year.

by AUTigerGSUEagle on Dec 13, 2010 4:29 AM EST up reply actions  

and after this season

they’ll be dead even with Alabama in BCS Championship wins :)

"Did you spill the whisky? You did, didn’t you? Okay, go ahead and eat the floormats."

by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 12, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

YIppee. The amount that deep down bothers me is... not at all.

That you’d be tying Ohio State and Miami, though. Those guys might not be happy about it. Especially what with your pagan ways of using your talent to play “offense.”

"You're just a man in a room with a checkbook."

by The Ghost of Brodie Croyle's Knees on Dec 12, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec’d for apt use of “pagan”.

by NCT on Dec 12, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

OFFENSE??

"So put 2 on, put 10 on, WHAT DO YOU CARE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE PAYIN' FOR 'EM!!!!?"
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by Jon Ross on Dec 12, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

New money?

I’ll refer you to Oscar’s stats earlier. We’re the 13th winningest program in CFB.

by SEC Supremacist on Dec 12, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I should probably

put this in lmgtfy.com but I’m in a gracious mood.

complete list

"Did you spill the whisky? You did, didn’t you? Okay, go ahead and eat the floormats."

by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 12, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Whats fun with that list is

taking a look who’s at the bottom. Poor FIU. Even poorer Kent St. 84 years and they don’t average 4 wins in 10 games.

by GatorGunner on Dec 12, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I like sorting by ties

KANSAS NUMBER 1!!! KANSAS NUMBER 1!!!!

"Did you spill the whisky? You did, didn’t you? Okay, go ahead and eat the floormats."

by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 12, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Glad I caught you in a gracious mood.

I feel so fucking lazy today.

Gas it, Daddy

by cowcollege on Dec 12, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

you already owed me one

for leaving your coach alone. strike three up next and then..err..you’re….out?

"Did you spill the whisky? You did, didn’t you? Okay, go ahead and eat the floormats."

by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 12, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

UConn is exhausted

According to Wiki, they’ve played 994 games in 7 seasons.

"Those are my principles, and if you don't like them, well, I have others."

by Jack Fact on Dec 12, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

You know who else still holds a winning record against Florida?

Bama, UGA, Ole Miss, Miami, and (wait for it) … Georgia Tech.

by NCT on Dec 12, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Also...

Army, Davidson, Harvard, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Missouri, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Texas, Notre Dame, Rice, Temple, Texas, UCLA, Villanova and Washington.

"Those are my principles, and if you don't like them, well, I have others."

by Jack Fact on Dec 12, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

...North Texas?

Say WTF?

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by jonfmorse on Dec 12, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Source

I could spend all day on the site, and since its raining, I probably will now.

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by Jack Fact on Dec 12, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn

http://football.stassen.com/records/all-opponent.html

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by Jack Fact on Dec 12, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

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by Old South on Dec 12, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

All true, I suppose.

I was going for a list of routine opponents. Obviously, Tech is no longer in the category, but from where I sit, it’s much funnier than North Texas, and the Jackets once were a conference opponent.

by NCT on Dec 12, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Techies are welcome back anytime

Or we could go full-insanity and reconstitute the old Southern Conference.

http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2010/6/28/1542201/past-is-prologue-general-neyland

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by Jack Fact on Dec 12, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah, yes.

I liked your post at the time. Well, I enjoyed reading it. (Damn you, Facebook, and your encroachment on my perfectly appropriate vocabluary). Also, I rec’d it.

I heart history. It’s why college football is better than anything else. It’s also why I frequently refer to the MLB team of which I’m a fan as the oldest continuously operating franchise in all of professional sports. Meanwhile, the Falcons game is on in the background, but only as a pleasant distraction from the CFB off-season.

by NCT on Dec 12, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Hiring is dicey at best... kinda like recruiting

Past results don’t always guarantee future returns. Examples of Tommy Bowden, undefeated at Tulane to Clemson, or Rich Rodriguez to Michigan didn’t always work out. Yet Bob Stoops worked out well for Oklahoma.

Its a bold hire for sure. But talent acquisition and development is what will eventually save him or kill him. UF should usually be able to aquire the talent. Now lets see if he is Charlie Weis or Jim Tressel in his development of that talent.

You can never pay back, but you can always pay forward. - W. W. Hayes

by Crabapple Buck on Dec 12, 2010 11:38 AM EST reply actions  

Last night during the Heisman I kindly point out to my buddy that James, Newton, and Luck all have ties to Texas

He gloats about all of this for a few minutes. Right when he thinks everything is perfect with the world I informed him about Muschamp…..anger ensued.

by Truffle Shuffle on Dec 12, 2010 11:42 AM EST reply actions  

I love this move

Because it kicks Texas in the teeth after they already had a shitty year.

/Still bitter that Texas passed over Cal for the 05 Rose Bowl slot.

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by 49er16 on Dec 12, 2010 11:55 AM EST reply actions  

I'm hoping Mack looks around and just says Fuck-it and retires,

 then this great nation we live can collectively turn towards Texas and give them one giant “BOOM!…. MOTHERFUCKER”

by Truffle Shuffle on Dec 12, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Embrace the hire, Gators! It's all a crap shoot in the end

"There's an angel on my shoulder, but the devil's at the the wheel"
~ Jonatha Brooke

by MtnEer_in_SC on Dec 12, 2010 11:56 AM EST reply actions  

If you're going with the "don't tell me the odds"

that’s from Empire Strikes Back while that picture is clearly from A New Hope.

/Nerd’d.
//appreciates the thought though

by Charles UF on Dec 12, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I was just thinking this.

In the history of college football, no player, no coach, no guru, compares with [Les] Miles’s masterful incorporation of applied chaos theory and time relativity into strategic game planning. Simply put, the man is on another level. A level many don’t or can’t understand. Genius.

by Gregatron on Dec 12, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a trap!

/obvious’d

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by Jack Fact on Dec 12, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

The force is strong with this one

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"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
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by 49er16 on Dec 12, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd love an LSU Freek send up of the Han/Greedo shootout

with Muscy as Han and Mack Brown as Greedo.

A boy can dream.

by North 2 on Dec 12, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

seconded

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by Oscar Whiskey on Dec 12, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Now there's no point

I can see moving pictures in my head.

"They've just discovered a new use for sheep over there at Clemson... wool." - Lewis Grizzard

by GwinnettGamecock on Dec 12, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

How about

Muschamp as Lando, Mack as Han, and Foley as Vader in the scene where Lando reveals his “deal” in Cloud City?

"...water for the corn." — petromax spambot

by Go Big Rev on Dec 12, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

"I'm sorry they got here right before you."

“I’m sorry, too.”

Holly hates me

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THE Oscar Whiskey

by Oscar Whiskey on Dec 12, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

"Oh, and I'm taking the job at Florida."

“That wasn’t part of our deal.”
“I have altered the deal. Pray I don’t alter it any further.”

I've got this terrible pain in all the diodes down my left-hand side.
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by SpartanDan on Dec 12, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Muschamp to Layla Kiffin

“You look absolutely beautiful. You truly belong here with us among the clouds.”

"...water for the corn." — petromax spambot

by Go Big Rev on Dec 12, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

A Favorite What-If...

If Urbz had stepped down in ’08, how great would this hire have been?

by Owls and Goephs and Craep on Dec 12, 2010 12:32 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

KILL IT WITH FIRE

"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"

by psuphiman80 on Dec 12, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

How dare you associate that great song

with that opposite of great coordinator?

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by stempke on Dec 12, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Have some courtesy

have some dignity and some grace.

Sparty on. Gator done.

by SpartanGator on Dec 12, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Someone should setup a non-profit

to support Chan Gailey at Buffalo. I’m sure the domain 4chan.org is available.

Sparty on. Gator done.

by SpartanGator on Dec 12, 2010 12:37 PM EST reply actions   3 recs

Someone should show Chan /b/

So his head can explode a la Scanners. Maybe that way the Bills would have a chance to accidentally hire a coach capable of winning something.

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by Peter Gray on Dec 12, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, you have to give Chan time

He’ll get them up to 9-5; it’s what he does. They may even lose in the first round of the playoffs once every five years.

Either love your players or get out of coaching.

by Golden Hand on Dec 12, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

9-7, duh.

Either love your players or get out of coaching.

by Golden Hand on Dec 12, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

It all boils down to this:

“Mullen was allegedly not well-liked by administration types.”

That says it all. Either Foley is taking orders from people that know a lot about money and not so much about football or he has made the biggest decision of his career to date based on his feelings.

A manager’s job is to de-emphasize personality issues and put the best person for the job in place. From the standpoint of W-L next season, is Muschamp a better choice than Mullen?

Florida deserves better. Foley got a Mulligan for Zook. He won’t get another one.

by Just Outside of Barstow on Dec 12, 2010 12:52 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

From the standpoint of W-L next season, it is hard to argue against Mullen.

But the issue isn’t next season but all those that follow. Some reports said that there were concerns about Mullen’s recruiting, and there might have been other factors.

Muschamp may not be Stoops, but he is certainly no [Redacted].

"This is one of those cases in which the imagination is baffled by the facts." - Adam Smith, on the Florida offense.

by cantcatchuf on Dec 12, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure there are many fanbases...

… who would echo the “_______ deserves better” sentiment with regard to Muschamp.

I love green because money be green.

by Joey C. on Dec 12, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm totally not with JOoB on Muschamp

I think he’s a great hire. A ballsy hire, but a great hire.

Weoejuwejhdjwe!

by Chekhov's Spread Gun Option on Dec 12, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

The fire required to burn things amidst the mist of Texan tears will be immense.

"This is one of those cases in which the imagination is baffled by the facts." - Adam Smith, on the Florida offense.

by cantcatchuf on Dec 12, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

oh my god, GENIUS, GENIUS!

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by Oscar Whiskey on Dec 12, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

MAKE IT GREEN, MEN!

"Evacuate in our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances." - Mack Brown, Pasadena, circa early 2010.

by cantcatchuf on Dec 12, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't mind if I do

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by stempke on Dec 12, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

My internet-ing calluses fell off just before I rec'd this.

I sliced off a toe callus, superglued it to my finger, and rec’d it.

"...water for the corn." — petromax spambot

by Go Big Rev on Dec 12, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

considering a little over an hour from Texas City

its safe to say I know of said city and its propensity to explode…

Holly hates me

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by Oscar Whiskey on Dec 12, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry,

meant to reply to the gentleman inquiring as to the size of fire required. It’s a bit of evidence for the state’s capacity to create such a thing.

by Owls and Goephs and Craep on Dec 12, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

no apologies needed sirrah

surprised you understood my statement at all, need to stop trying to type and watch tv at the same time. Doesn’t always seem to work out for me…

Holly hates me

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THE Oscar Whiskey

by Oscar Whiskey on Dec 12, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

This may be sufficient.

But Peter better upgrade that lighter of his.

"Evacuate in our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances." - Mack Brown, Pasadena, circa early 2010.

by cantcatchuf on Dec 12, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

would gator fans have been...

happier or more nervous if they’d gotten malzahn? I’m glad he is still with us at AU for now though we all know he will be gone sooner or later. I’m thinking it’d be an even bigger risk with a potentially larger reward for UF. I liked muschamp for his energy, but his techniques for defensive backs are still evident at AU though ted roof has finally begun to break it a year and a half in. Your defensive backs will no longer turn and look for the ball. nothing but faceguarding from here on. That said, maybe he will get some solid coordinators like chizik did and you will be fine. Here’s hoping you don’t have a jackass waiting at the airport. That shit stays with you like herpes. At least you’re in the east where you really only have 3 other teams to worry about in UT, UGA, and USC. Of those Spurrier will hang it up before muschamp gets fired, Richt will be fired/quit before muschamp is fired, and Dooley is young like muschamp and if both hang in for a while it could make some epic battles 10 yrs down the road. You’ll be back on top of the east in no time.

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by tigertracker on Dec 12, 2010 1:13 PM EST reply actions  

I'd be more nervous

if nothing else, at least Muschamp has decades of experience. Malzahn has 4 years in cfb.

I still think Muschamp is a better bet than almost anyone else out there.

by native_son on Dec 12, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

The only options I favored more were

Petersen and Kelly (of the baked snack variety). The latter was more a pipe dream than anything else I suppose though.

by GatorGunner on Dec 12, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't get it...

This hire seems perfectly sensical to me, and even a little safer than hiring Meyer in 2005. I prefer Muschamp to Petersen. I think the move is brilliant.

by native_son on Dec 12, 2010 1:34 PM EST reply actions  

Well, if EDSBS Live was on life support before...

… it’s DOA now. Spencer teasing Peter about Muschamp leaving did not elicit the jolliest of responses. And now he did leave… for Spencer’s team.

I love green because money be green.

by Joey C. on Dec 12, 2010 2:15 PM EST reply actions  

Oh, excellent

Cheerfully withdrawn.

I love green because money be green.

by Joey C. on Dec 12, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

So is Florida happy if they have Bob Stoops 2.0

with a similar career trajectory? It’s a little bit boring, but successful.

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by Londonjoe on Dec 12, 2010 2:23 PM EST reply actions  

I think we could do a lot worse.

It at least will make for an interesting senior year in Gainesville.

by GatorGunner on Dec 12, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's be honest here -- chance plays more of a role in the failures of "Big Game Bob" than we usually admit.

Anyone would take such a run of NT/BCS bowl appearances, especially since the coin may come up heads more times than it does for Stoops himself.

But if we acknowledged the role pure fortune plays, we couldn’t mock or laud as we do. We find much of the fun of being a fan in those two activities.

by Owls and Goephs and Craep on Dec 12, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

BIg Game Bob

has faced some good teams in BCS games.

08- Florida was one of the scariest SEC teams ever, and the game was still tight.
07- WVU was the most talented Big East team since Miami left, a single no-show game away from the BCS championship, and playing in mega-FU mode because of Dick Rod.
06- Boise out of nowhere. OU has no interest in the game, Boise has to win it to even become relevant.
04- Reggie Bush’d
03- Saban’d
02- Won Rose Bowl
00- Won BCS Championship

Weoejuwejhdjwe!

by Chekhov's Spread Gun Option on Dec 12, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

03- Snyder'd

Almost got Snyder’d in 2000, too.

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by jonfmorse on Dec 12, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, yeah, but every team plays good BCS teams.

Kinda goes with the territory, you know. OU should have played better. After all, Florida had no trouble with Cincy last year and Georgia had no problems blowing out a Hawaii, what, 3 years ago? Same situation as OU vs. WVU and vs. Boise.

by meatybob on Dec 12, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Wasn't Cincy without their coach? The importance of Kelly to that program is clear after this season. Hawaii was clearly overmatched from the outset, it didn't matter what UGA did.

The Boise game was probably the worst of all Stoop’s BCS teams. Paul Thompson started at QB only because Bomar got kicked out right before the season in August. Thompson’s only start before that season was that loss to TCU and they loss Adrian Peterson for a large chunk of the regular season, and, despite all this, Stoops got them to a BCS game and it took Boise the single most remarkable set of plays to just force overtime.

by Truffle Shuffle on Dec 12, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

WVU was without their coach

in the Fiesta against OU. The real problem with the Big East BCS reps the past two years is that they weren’t WVU.

In 2010, WVU has 4 TOs at UConn, one of them by the tailback as he’s going into the endzone in OT. WVU loses by 3.

In 2009 at Cincy, WVU recovered an Eads fumble on their goal line. Reply showed no look at all, yet the play was reversed and Cincy scored. WVU lost that one by 3.

In 2008 at Morgantown, Cincy returns the opening KO for a TD. Wins that one by 3.

A total of nine points kept WVU out of three straight BCS games. Great teams have to win the big games, but man…

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by An 'eer with a beer on Dec 12, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

'07 Sugar analysis

disagrees with Mark May

I don't have time for any of this... and yet... here I am.

by Gen. Stoopnagle on Dec 12, 2010 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, well.

May’s excuse is faulty intelligence. It’s easy to second-guess after the fact. He needs Condi Rice to come along and work that out for him.

by NCT on Dec 13, 2010 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll try to keep your benevolence in mind when talking about Jim Tressel

Who lost two NT games and everyone talks as if we lose every bowl game. Yet the records show he is 4-3 in BCS games, 5-4 overall in bowls.

You can never pay back, but you can always pay forward. - W. W. Hayes

by Crabapple Buck on Dec 12, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Bullshit

Jim Tressel’s never won anything at all, not even at Youngstown. Your lies cannot fool me. I know what I read on the internets.

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by jonfmorse on Dec 12, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Except for Crabapple Buck. His lies poison the purities of the internets.

"Evacuate in our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances." - Mack Brown, Pasadena, circa early 2010.

by cantcatchuf on Dec 12, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm full of lies, damn lies & statistics

You can never pay back, but you can always pay forward. - W. W. Hayes

by Crabapple Buck on Dec 12, 2010 7:13 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, we always knew there was something

just fundamentally wrong with you.

LOL

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by MtnEer_in_SC on Dec 12, 2010 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I still well remember

a cold December day in 1999 when Jim Tressel’s YSU Penguins came into the national championship and got SPANKED by Georgia Southern. GSU had over 600 yards of total offense that day, and only 17 of them were passing (and that was on ONE play).

/Paul Johnson’d

by AUTigerGSUEagle on Dec 13, 2010 4:47 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

In further defense of Bob,

He was snakebitten by the most unlikely series of plays and tomfoolery in the 07 Fiesta, and wasn’t looking awful against Florida until the goofy goal line pick and Ahmad Black’s physical domination of Manny Johnson on his int.

POSTIVE SPIN!!! POSITIVE SPIN!!!

by GatorGunner on Dec 12, 2010 2:33 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Moreover, in '04, his was just the second (or third -- I know, Auburn, I know) best team in the country,

with first (or second — I know, Auburn, I know) outpacing his squad by a mile. That just happens sometimes.

by Owls and Goephs and Craep on Dec 12, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Howevah...

a Florida HC is going to face a lot more teams punching in the same weight class each year than the head man in Oklahoma.

"They've just discovered a new use for sheep over there at Clemson... wool." - Lewis Grizzard

by GwinnettGamecock on Dec 12, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

(avoiding a continuation of the "new money" analogy)

But seriously, I honestly think some Gamecock-type should do a piece about how USC left the ACC because they got tired of carrying the conference in basketball. (There’s snark in there, but it’s meant to be directed at the ACC, not Columbiaward).

I apologize for the digression. I just wanted to take the (barely an) opportunity to promote the project.

by NCT on Dec 12, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Not carrying the conference, but getting screwed by the conference

It didn’t help matters that Carolina and Clemson were the only two schools in the conference that wanted to even acknowledge that football existed as something other than a something to fill time between basketball seasons. I think the ACC ruled a few South Carolina recruits ineligible for admission, but kept finding exceptions to admit similar kids to the North Carolina schools.

Coach MaGuire hated Tobacco Road (with good reason), but I think he wanted to stay for the sake of the basketball program. Football coach Paul Dietzel was also the AD, and football drove the bus.

There was a handshake deal that Clemson would follow us out the door, but they backed out at the last minute. The year after we left, the ACC scrapped their academic rule that had been used to deny football recruits to USC..

Screw ’em all.

"They've just discovered a new use for sheep over there at Clemson... wool." - Lewis Grizzard

by GwinnettGamecock on Dec 12, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks.

It’s my residential proximity to Cremins Court that piques my interest in the matter, I reckon.

by NCT on Dec 12, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

in summary:

FUCK Clemson
.
.
.

Remember when Carolina was an independent?

/chugsbleach

I haven't a particle of confidence in a man who has no redeeming petty vices whatsoever
-Mark Twain

Also, Fuck Clemson.

by Gamecock2002 on Dec 12, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I always wonder what things would be like

if the Metro Conference had played football.

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by jonfmorse on Dec 12, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Assuming we're cherrypicking from the Metro's all-time roster?

FSU, GT, Sakerlina, VT, Louisville, Memphis (State), Tulane, Cincy and Southern Miss is your set. Eventually South Florida, if they start a I-A football program in this universe.

That sounds like it slots in somewhere between the modern ACC and Big East — a few really good teams on occasion, but never dominant. And I think it’s hard to make a case that football would have protected them from the raiding they took over the years, meaning the actual group is something lesser than even this.

That 17-year-old Hokie sitting in the Greensboro Coliseum rafters in 1997 didn't see any of this coming.

by JoshCVT on Dec 12, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Georgia Tech is the key.

If you manage to keep them around on the basis of the league sponsoring football, rather than them bolting to the ACC, then by 1991 you’re looking at three teams which at the time were pretty big deals (FSU, Georgia Tech, and Louisville under Schnelly). If you somehow con Miami into joining somewhere along the way… and Houston would actually have fit in perfectly later on when the SWC collapsed.

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by jonfmorse on Dec 12, 2010 6:19 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

And after days of local media saying Randy Shannon was coming to DC Kentucky, it's instead...

Rick Minter.

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by Old South on Dec 12, 2010 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

snake to the face is always a bad day

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by Oscar Whiskey on Dec 12, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Which is worse: a lifetime of toiling futility or a few fleeting moments in the stratosphere abruptly ended by explosive circumcision?

At least you have BBall. Texas, on the other hand…

"Evacuate in our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances." - Mack Brown, Pasadena, circa early 2010.

by cantcatchuf on Dec 12, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

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by Londonjoe on Dec 12, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought it was,

Better to have love and lost, than lived with that bitch the rest of my life.

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by Another damn Dan on Dec 12, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

love=loved damnit

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by Another damn Dan on Dec 12, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Lord Alfred Tennyson originally wanted that,

but the Victorian era would not allow for such colorful language.

by GatorGunner on Dec 12, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, he's fat

There are soooo many other things to make fun of him about (i.e. “decided schematic advantage”) that the fat jokes come off as lazy.

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by stempke on Dec 12, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh.

That was the joke. I see.

Beat the rush.

by Ancient Chinese Secret on Dec 12, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

was going for 'nostolgic,' but i see your point

by the by, i once had to operate a cotton candy machine at some fundraiser or other. thing shot out stray sugar crystals like shrapnel. my hands by the end of the night felt like they’d been gone over with sandpaper. the thing looks cute and harmless, but will leave you raw and stung.

ever since i’ve always found the idea of a ‘cotton candy schedule’ a lot more frightening than most people do.

by Philander Chase's Sweatervest on Dec 12, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

"the thing looks cute and harmless, but will leave you raw and stung."

Reminds me of some unpleasantness I experienced some time in the late 1990s. That’s why God created penicillin.

by NCT on Dec 12, 2010 5:35 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

This might sound terrible

but I’m a PSU person, and IDGI.

Are you referencing the shellacking we got at ND’s hands that year?

by psuwxman on Dec 13, 2010 7:22 AM EST up reply actions  

So who will Will bring in as offensive coordinator? Mike Martz?

by Displaced Gator on Dec 12, 2010 2:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I'm glad this is your opinion

Because it is close to mine and I was hesitant to post anything here last night for fear of being mocked.

As an Auburn fan I cringed at the thought of hiring Muschamp as HC. He’s a dangerous mixed bag and given the keys to a big program like Florida’s it is a a boom or bust scenario, either it will work out wonderfully or go down in a heap of flames. There is no in between. Will is emotional to the point of irrationality and this makes for a great DC but a recipe for a bad HC.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

by Mooncricket on Dec 12, 2010 3:29 PM EST reply actions  

"My skilled hands are busy"

Mr. Foley,

Congratulations on hiring Jordan Chase as your head coach. He will certainly teach your crew how to “Take it!” If you’re lucky, he will bring his friend Boyd Fowler (Major Applewhite) along as his offensive coordinator. I look forward to our next meeting.

Dexter Morgan

aka, the 2011 Georgia Bulldogs

by ya lawya on Dec 12, 2010 3:33 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

ESPN is a bunch of bastards.

On ESPN Classic now, Kansas State is losing to nobody at all.

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by jonfmorse on Dec 12, 2010 4:12 PM EST reply actions  

You should see the Big Ten Network.

I never thought there would be a channel on which Notre Dame loses more often than on NBC, but there you have it.

Beat the rush.

by Ancient Chinese Secret on Dec 12, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

It's okay.

I just got to see an anguished shot of Mike Stoops in a purple shirt in the press box wondering why he can’t at least make it look like he’s not throwing the game.

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by jonfmorse on Dec 12, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Suddenly, want to see if I have the Big10 network

I haven't a particle of confidence in a man who has no redeeming petty vices whatsoever
-Mark Twain

Also, Fuck Clemson.

by Gamecock2002 on Dec 12, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Universal HD seems to have a habit of rerunning games in which ND loses

Which is curious because one would think an NBC owned network based around the fact that it can show movies without commercials would not be so gleeful in showing the Irish lose.

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by stempke on Dec 12, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah the game that answered the eternal question

“what if we don’t have enough bowl eligible teams”

In that case the Alamo bowl decided to have KSU play an intrasquad scrimmage

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by stempke on Dec 12, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

They were so devastated after the A&M loss

they couldn’t even beat themselves.

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by jonfmorse on Dec 12, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

muschamp at florida , spurrier at usuck , dooley at tenn . incest is alive and well in the sec east.

by 5knklshfl on Dec 12, 2010 4:34 PM EST reply actions  

he'll coach the BCSCG

He stuck around at Tulsa to coach the GMAC bowl before coming to Auburn. He’s said in interviews several times that his goal is to win a championship, which he hasn’t done yet. Just makes me wonder if Auburn is going to continue to try and run his offense like Tulsa does or if Chizik is going to hire someone else…

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by Oscar Whiskey on Dec 12, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s said in interviews several times that his goal is to win a championship

Yeah, but he probably wants to win a championship of his own, and one that won’t be vacated in a few years.

by Truffle Shuffle on Dec 12, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Holly hates me

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by Oscar Whiskey on Dec 12, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

That's cold, bro, just plain icy

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by MtnEer_in_SC on Dec 12, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Just how awesome would it be slide down that inner tunnel and be shot out over the water?

Never minding the hypothermia, of course.

"Evacuate in our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances." - Mack Brown, Pasadena, circa early 2010.

by cantcatchuf on Dec 12, 2010 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Its nice to be finally able to laugh at such jokes without being sardonic.

"Evacuate in our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances." - Mack Brown, Pasadena, circa early 2010.

by cantcatchuf on Dec 12, 2010 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

"...water for the corn." — petromax spambot

by Go Big Rev on Dec 12, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, the divemaster is gone, I can laugh alllll I want.

"Evacuate in our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances." - Mack Brown, Pasadena, circa early 2010.

by cantcatchuf on Dec 13, 2010 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

hears the woodchipper of fate running at full throttle

by 5knklshfl on Dec 12, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Oooh, that's not gonna work

Trying to run a wide-open spread with Vandy talent. Hnnngh.

/Cutcliffed

Either love your players or get out of coaching.

by Golden Hand on Dec 12, 2010 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Attention University of Miami:

Yours is a less desirable head coaching position than that of Vanderbilt.

That 17-year-old Hokie sitting in the Greensboro Coliseum rafters in 1997 didn't see any of this coming.

by JoshCVT on Dec 12, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

If he's really making 3 mil a year, he's making 3 times the money of Muschamp.

That’s real money right there.

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by Londonjoe on Dec 12, 2010 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Whatevs

Da U really wants that Canadian guy, if they had wanted Malzahn he’d be there already.

Also, you’re gay for mentioning Da U without talking about how great they are.

/Swagger

Weoejuwejhdjwe!

by Chekhov's Spread Gun Option on Dec 12, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Fixed that for ya.

Also, you’re gay U R A HOMO

Beat the rush.

by Ancient Chinese Secret on Dec 12, 2010 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

ESPN is reporting Miami to hire Al Golden

"There's an angel on my shoulder, but the devil's at the the wheel"
~ Jonatha Brooke

by MtnEer_in_SC on Dec 12, 2010 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

...I don't know how to feel about that

I’m going with concerned for the time being.

by SuperJew on Dec 12, 2010 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Why?

He’s proven he can win while situated in a huge metro area that doesn’t give two shits about the team

by Truffle Shuffle on Dec 12, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

You're not helping SuperJew.

"Evacuate in our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances." - Mack Brown, Pasadena, circa early 2010.

by cantcatchuf on Dec 12, 2010 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Well....

UNC has bigger fish to fry at the moment.

But yeah, it looks like a great hire for Miami.

by SuperJew on Dec 12, 2010 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

/tinfoil'd

This was part of a sekrit deal between Donna Shalala and the Big East as part of the compensation for Miami helping to destroy their football league. The Big East knew that Temple was in danger of becoming good again, and if that happened they’d look dumb for kicking them out. So now Miami’s hiring Golden to send Temple back into the memory hole.

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by jonfmorse on Dec 12, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Ahem.

PAWWWWWWWLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Beat the rush.

by Ancient Chinese Secret on Dec 12, 2010 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Ouch.

Proven head coaches who have performed miracles at traditional suck schools scare me WAY more as a conference opponent WAY than popular alumnus coordinators. Miami hire > Florida hire on paper.

Why did Florida not consider Golden? HE DON’T KNOW HOW TO RECRUIT SOUFLORIDA, PAWWWWWWWWL. Oh, yeah, right.

Either love your players or get out of coaching.

by Golden Hand on Dec 12, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

/points at Dan Hawkins

These things go either way.

"Evacuate in our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances." - Mack Brown, Pasadena, circa early 2010.

by cantcatchuf on Dec 12, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

True

/TyWillingham’d

But I still say it’s a better hire on paper.

Either love your players or get out of coaching.

by Golden Hand on Dec 12, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

The man studied under Tom O'Brien and Al Groh

Good news for Miami fans who feared the Canes might get their swagger back

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by Old South on Dec 12, 2010 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

he's gay

fairy pillowbiting creampuff gayface with a 3 incher, wouldn’t want to tangle with me

/daU
/internetToughGuy’d

by Caban on Dec 13, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

forgot

to mention i can bench 500lbs, and was a green beret sniper and a golden gloves boxer…and my wife is a supermodel… etc, etc, etc

/stillAnInternetToughGuy

by Caban on Dec 13, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of which

what ever happened to the commenter known only as sorryche?

Like a meteor of hateful violence, he was.

Beat the rush.

by Ancient Chinese Secret on Dec 13, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Probably went to kick someone's ass

and “never made it home”.

My new blog: Those Other Guys. Critiques welcome.

by jonfmorse on Dec 13, 2010 5:56 AM EST up reply actions  

He's still busy

Kicking my ass and hacking my interweb life.

Sorry brb gettin ass kicked :( :(

"Did you spill the whisky? You did, didn’t you? Okay, go ahead and eat the floormats."

by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 13, 2010 7:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Aleksey Vayner?

Is that you?

I don't have time for any of this... and yet... here I am.

by Gen. Stoopnagle on Dec 13, 2010 6:19 AM EST up reply actions  

hello, fellow finance nerd

no one else here will get that reference.

"Did you spill the whisky? You did, didn’t you? Okay, go ahead and eat the floormats."

by Bourbon_Meyer on Dec 13, 2010 7:34 AM EST up reply actions  

So Muschamp, Malzahn, and now Golden have all been plucked

Leach has gotta take a coordinator position.Does Chizik hire Leach?
Does he even have a choice if he keeps Ted Roof?

by Truffle Shuffle on Dec 12, 2010 6:42 PM EST reply actions  

Leach comes to Florida

So does Kirby Smart. So does Bob Stoops. Also Bill Belichick, and Steve Spurrier.

Muschamp can recruit more than players, yo.

Weoejuwejhdjwe!

by Chekhov's Spread Gun Option on Dec 12, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

With all he's learned under Brown

This is going to end up fantastic for the Gators.

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by Another damn Dan on Dec 12, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Muscy, you got some 'splainin' to do!

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by Oscar Whiskey on Dec 12, 2010 8:10 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

ESPN: Like EDSBS, but without the dishes of fatal fish.

Its for pussies.

"Evacuate in our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances." - Mack Brown, Pasadena, circa early 2010.

by cantcatchuf on Dec 12, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I read your post header and immediately heard

Ricky Ricardo’s voice coming from this guy.

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by MtnEer_in_SC on Dec 12, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Anybody else watch the Lombardi thing on HBO last night?

Yeah, I know, NFL sucks, etc. But I found it fascinatin’, both for what I learned about Lombardi personally (big praiser as well as ass-chewer, handsy with people he liked, bipolar) and professionally (did a coaching seminar on one play, the Green Bay power sweep, for EIGHT HOURS).

Either love your players or get out of coaching.

by Golden Hand on Dec 12, 2010 8:22 PM EST reply actions  

I watched it. It was great

Being a Packer fan, it was mostly stuff I already knew, but it was entertaining nonetheless

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by stempke on Dec 12, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Unrelated post

For all you northern blizzard victims. I have sneak attacked both my kids today with snowballs. It is currently 28 degrees with a dusting of snow. Had to work to scrape up enough for a snowball. I live in Alabama, so I know us southerners don’t know shit about cold. High tomorrow is 27 (a few weeks back it was 70). How the hell you people live in that below zero crap is beyond me. I’m sitting here cussing cause it will not make it up to freezing tomorrow. I need to move further south.

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by Another damn Dan on Dec 12, 2010 8:31 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Easy.

We aren’t pussies.

Paige's sparking personality is intoxicating; her beauty breathtaking; her intellectual prowess incomprehensible to mortals. Her radiance...her luster...drive men mad. Her omnipotence dangerous, yet alluring. It is her power that ensures gravity remains constant; her genius that inspires. She is not only responsible for the Earth's rotation, but may cure what ails the heart with a glance. I am Paige's pool boy...a serf to her ladyship. I am at her beck and call. I bow to her. I am not worthy. War Eagle.

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by Uhaul on Dec 12, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

Easier.

They’re all masochists.

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by Old South on Dec 12, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Wait - south or north?

Because dammit, the ONLY way to enjoy ice fishing is in the bag.

"...water for the corn." — petromax spambot

by Go Big Rev on Dec 13, 2010 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

The other day, the New York Times did a story about how all these goddamn southerners don’t know what the fuck to do in the cold. I found it highly entertaining.

by ToStirItRound on Dec 13, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

LINK FAIL

I've got this terrible pain in all the diodes down my left-hand side.
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by SpartanDan on Dec 13, 2010 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

27?

You’re right, you don’t know shit about cold.

It never failed to amuse me to watch southern students who were experiencing their first real winter at MSU. Half of them would break out the parkas by early October, when I was still wearing shorts.

I've got this terrible pain in all the diodes down my left-hand side.
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by SpartanDan on Dec 13, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I lived in San Diego for awhile...

…and they’d break out the parkas if it got below 60. The heaviest thing I owned when I was there was a sweatshirt and a wind jacket for when I was riding my motorcycle

by Spartan D on Dec 13, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Tomorrow, I will get up for my last exam of the semester.

I must walk to the CTA. The forecast?

9 degrees with 25 mph winds.

Beat the rush.

by Ancient Chinese Secret on Dec 13, 2010 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

So a normal day?

Gale warnings forecasted for Charleston (SC) tomorrow with single digit wind chill. Upper twenties and 34 mph gusts are unpleasant. It is a good reason to relax with two of this season’s three favorite things: Bourbon and fire. Add bleach if Malzahn goes to Vandy.

by PalmettoTiger on Dec 13, 2010 1:01 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Sunny tomorrow with a high of 50.

Florida ain’t half bad once you make it past August.

"Evacuate in our moment of triumph? I think you overestimate their chances." - Mack Brown, Pasadena, circa early 2010.

by cantcatchuf on Dec 13, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

UK cancelled morning exams tomorrow

We had about 2 inches of snow across the day today, and tomorrow is 24 degrees mostly sunny.

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by Old South on Dec 13, 2010 1:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh if only it were so...

….Sunday was 10 degrees with gusts up to 50mph – wind chill around negative 15
I opened the door to let my dog out, and he just stood there and stared at me, like “are you fucking serious? I’ll just go ahead and shit in the living room, thank you very much”

by Spartan D on Dec 13, 2010 9:09 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Breaking News!

More on Auburns exploding dogs.

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by Another damn Dan on Dec 12, 2010 8:49 PM EST reply actions  

can't post the link in the subject line

only down here

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THE Oscar Whiskey

by Oscar Whiskey on Dec 12, 2010 8:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Well what am I doing wrong?

I hit the link button and put it below the “More on Auburns…” line, but it didn’t show upl. Is there another step I am missing?

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by Another damn Dan on Dec 12, 2010 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's the easiest way

1. Type something
2. Highlight what you typed and click the link icon
3. Paste the URL of whatever you’re trying to link
4. Click OK and the something you typed should be a link

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by Old South on Dec 13, 2010 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

OK, got it now.

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by Another damn Dan on Dec 12, 2010 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

haha, knew you'd figure out dem internetz

good find also by the way

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by Oscar Whiskey on Dec 12, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, I iz a dumbass Alabama redneck that ain't used to this 'puter stuff.

Couldn’t resist that story though.

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by Another damn Dan on Dec 12, 2010 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey....
If you’re dumb about it, you play the part of the overly provocative-but-brainless innovator and hire pointlessly odd coaches, and yes we’re writing about Notre Dame here.

That seemed like an unnecessary slam of Lou Holtz.

by JPGiro on Dec 13, 2010 11:47 AM EST reply actions  

I dunno

I still question the logic of hiring a DC from a league where defense is largely a myth to win the SEC at a school that has only been successful with offense-first (or only) head coaches. The combo of Urban-Mullen. Spurrier. To a lesser extent, Galen Hall. I’m not saying it won’t work, just that in spite of all the positives (and there are certainly plenty), I have plenty of doubt.

I've got the brains. You've got the looks. Let's make lots of money.

by ckmneon on Dec 13, 2010 1:59 PM EST reply actions  

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