THE OREGON OFFENSE IS ORDINARY AND NOT ORDINARY AT ALL
We did a brief piece explaining how you can't spell extraordinary without "ordinary" in breaking down the Ducks' offense, and how what they do is simply good craft put in the hands of good talent under good playcalling. The best defenses and best offenses both have that in common, though explaining defenses and their simple chemistries has never been as glamorous because defense is in essence a negative experience, one of destruction. People don't like to have bombs and wiring explained to them: they just want to see the boom.
Capers like the Oregon offense demand some explanation, but in the explaining the basics get lost: namely, that what makes the Ducks offense work so very well is the same thing that made every other record-breaking offense work, and every other decennial amazing defense happen, too: execution and skill. Oregon's offensive line blocks the living shit out of their assignments. LaMichael James not only reads the drift of the line and the defense like waves, he hits the holes in that drift with a ferocity unparalleled in college football. He's a violent runner running behind violent blocks executed with a violent precision. That, as far as anyone can tell us, is a hallmark of great football at any level in any system.
Thus the anger at the resident message board twat who says a system is easily beaten simply because it is a system of slight variance from the rest of college football, or worse yet a deviation from some abstract and nonexistent historical norm. They're the same people who said the wishbone would never work at Texas (and then at Alabama,) that Urban Meyer's offenses wouldn't work in the SEC*, that the pass-first offenses of 1980s BYU wouldn't leave the outskirts of Provo, and that Gus Malzahn was a high school coach in over his head in a college environment. Anything that does the basics well and does them well on a consistent basis works, since innovation at its best is just as boring in one sense as the stultified status quo: it protects the ball, blocks well, and executes with pinpoint precision.
That would be the hallmark of craft, the thing done well, and though awe and fairy dust may be its side effects, confusing them for the substance demeans the observer and the thing observed.
*2010 offer excluded
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I think the main reason...
the spread is derided is because it has never been successful on the highest level. You could make an argument that Indy runs a spread type of offense but it isn’t the zone read which Oregon, Michigan, Auburn, et al run.
I realize that this years Oregon’s team isn’t last years but the offense is identical. Given 6 weeks to prepare tOSU was able to effectively shut it down. The Buckeyes were also the best defense Oregon had seen that year.
www.charliebaumandeservedit.com
The scheme is identical. the personnel is nearly identical (so, more experienced) with one major exception.
The quarterback is a massive upgrade. Masoli was an excellent runner, and a good leader, but a poor passer, with no downfield threat whatsoever.
The difference between this years production and last can be attributed almost entirely to Darron Thomas.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Nov 3, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't understand why people discount experience
Of course teams get better with time. If you look at the 2003, 2004, and – well, there was no 2005, but you get the idea, for SC, the results each year get progressively better. Why wouldn’t that make a difference from year to year.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
Look at Washington
Returned 20 of 22 starters
Are even worse.
I think that is stretching the point.
Take a successful team, give them another year, and they should be better.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 3, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
They are even more accomplished at sucking
I suppose I didn’t account for regression, but I don’t think that discounts the basic point…
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
They very well suck as badly most weeks
Except when they play USC, of course.
by UWowlFAUhusky on Nov 3, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
This is most definitely so
Masoli is better than Thomas in 2 ways so far as I can see it: (1) His ball fakes on the zone read are the best bar none; and (2) His number of trucking-a-DB SportsCenter highlights dwarf Thomas’s. That’s about it.
"I've made a huge little mistake." - G.O.B.
Thomas is pretty good on the ball fake too.
But the BEST ball faker by none was Dennis Dixon.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Nov 3, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
bar* none
obv
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Nov 3, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha
My initial reaction is that I respectfully disagree but I don’t want to say anything negative about St. Dixon.
"I've made a huge little mistake." - G.O.B.
I watched each Dennis Dixon game over three years and each Masoli game over two, and Dixon's ball fake was way better than Masoli's.
Ça plane pour moi.
I watched each Dennis Dixon game over three years like thrice each, and each
Masoli game over two years at least twice each, and Dixon’s ball fake was way better than Masoli’s.
Texas and Florida's spread elements seem to have been pretty successful to me
Granted they’ve both shied away and they aren’t perfect, but the philosophy is frequently the same.
This stuff'll make you a...sexual tyrannosaurus. Just like me.
More the "Jimmys and Joes, than X's and O's...which seems the QB in both systems
is what made them hum right along….like AU this year, same offense, just a playmaker at QB that can run better than he passes, where Todd passed better than he ran……
The beatings will continue til morale improves.....
by mrpelicanpants on Nov 3, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Todd was running?!???!???!!!!
Surely you jest.
by Board Certified Scrotologist on Nov 3, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes but...
Newton has, so far, 108 completions on 162 attempts (3rd in passing efficiency nationally) for 1573 yards (15 TD) versus 168 carries for 1122 yards (6.7 yds per and 14TD). It’s more balanced than it seems until you look at the numbers. I believe what gives the impression of him being a running machine is that he most certainly is and so many of those runs have been big/crucial plays. He does air it out as well.
by PalmettoTiger on Nov 3, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Longer preparation time is a good thing?
I could have sworn after ’06 tOSU apologists repeated the “51 days off” line until we couldnt stand it anymore???
You sold me...queer giraffes.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Nov 3, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, you see, it's like this
51 days is too much. 14 days isn’t enough. 35 days is juuuuuust right.
My new blog: Those Other Guys. Critiques welcome.
It's beneficial...
unless your Heisman winning QB goes on the Buffet circuit and gains 50 pounds.
www.charliebaumandeservedit.com
Masoli had to be the most inconsistent passer at the highest level last year
Always melting down when expectation were highest. This Oregon team is way different with Thomas, a consistent downfield threat, and a veteran O-Line.
I agree...
But they averaged over 37 points a game last year. Their two lowest scoring games were the first one and the bowl game. Both games where the opposing team had plenty of time to prepare.
www.charliebaumandeservedit.com
We laugh at 37 points a game.
And you can NOT ignore the difference a true passer makes. fBSU and tOSU stacked the box and forced Masoli to beat them with his arm, knowing he really couldn’t. You can’t do that to Darron Thomas; he’ll kill you short, kill you deep, kill you everywhere in between.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 3, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Believe it
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
I thoroughly enjoyed the years of dishing it out, might as well be gracious about the downswing.
Besides, it’s tiresome listening to the annual “oh they only won the Pac 10, wait until they face a real team” cant. Oregon could do that several years in a row and pancake bowl game opposition, and it still wouldn’t change. It’s a fixed variable.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
Hey, it's just like my opinion man...
I think Kirby Smart and Saban given 6 weeks could devise a scheme to stop Oregon.
Auburn? No so much.
www.charliebaumandeservedit.com
'bama's secondary is weak.
And a coach can only prepare for what is on tape. Again, with Thomas, all options are open and the playbook as yet is NOT completely open. Amongst other things, practice reports this week are talking in terms of getting snaps off in 9 seconds.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 3, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
If Garcia and Lattimore can do it?
Best believe the Ducks can.
tOSU...
got beat by Purdue last yeat.
They were still able to shut down Oregon.
www.charliebaumandeservedit.com
I don't think anybody is saying Oregon is invincible.
They are a fantastic offense that’s fun to watch. I don’t doubt there are teams capable of beating us. But it will take a stellar defense that’s conditioned and deep. And say they hold us to half our point production. They’ll STILL have to score 30 to win.
Our main source of irritation is the oft-used cry of “gimmick” that so many old school cloud-of-dusters trot out every goddamn week.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Nov 3, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Wanna put $5000 on it? Lemme know how that goes....
The beatings will continue til morale improves.....
by mrpelicanpants on Nov 3, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
for Auburn....
The beatings will continue til morale improves.....
by mrpelicanpants on Nov 3, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Wanna put $5000 on it? Lemme know how that goes....
The beatings will continue til morale improves.....
by mrpelicanpants on Nov 3, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
sometimes, we out scheme ourselves....
The beatings will continue til morale improves.....
by mrpelicanpants on Nov 3, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably....
Has more to do with the fact that they’re really really really good teams. Give a less than superb group a month to prepare, and they’re not going to just “figure it out”.
Against Boise, Masoli was ill-prepared to deal with the loss of so many O-Lineman, and Justin WIlcon spent, literally, the entire summer preparing for that Offense.
If Blount doesn’t fumble in the endzone, and Masoli wasn’t so panicky and unable to see over the lane. The Ducks maybe win that game.
If Masoli had any other throw than flat and bazooka-like,
and they could be counted on to hit their target on a consistent basis, maybe.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 3, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Alternatively
If Boise State doesn’t have center/qb exchange and field goal kicking problems, maybe the Broncos margin of victory is even larger. (Also, Blount was tackled for a safety in the endzone, but he didn’t fumble on that play. He fumbled later, but not in the endzone.) That said, Oregon was really good last year, and is even better this year, no doubt.
We want to build a university our football team can be proud of. -- Dr. George Lynn Cross
I think he meant the Rose Bowl
for the second instance.
Last year’s what-ifs don’t mean a whole lot to me. We lost to Stanford last year, too. We beat them this year. This year’s offense is superior to last year’s. It isn’t unstoppable, but it’s really, really good. I have been watching college football for almost 30 years, and can’t recall of an offense that is clearly superior to this one.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Nov 3, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Rose Bowl, got it
I’m not a big fan of what-if’s either because as a Boise State fan, I hear that all the time. If X happend/didn’t happen, then Boise State would have lost.
I thnk the hidden story with Oregon is the defense, because it is underestimated by a lot of people.
We want to build a university our football team can be proud of. -- Dr. George Lynn Cross
Right there with you
One strange consequence of the speed with which the offense plays is that traditional statistics (TOP, YPG allowed, etc.) have a lot less meaning, because the defense has to see a lot more plays. If you look at yards per play, 3rd down conversions, red zone percentage, etc. our defense starts to look better on paper.
The real story of the Ducks defense, though, is conditioning and depth, evidenced by our second half scoring margin (180-38). Basically, the opposing defense is gassed, so our offense opens up. And the opposing offense has to pass first, since they’re playing from behind and can’t match our tempo otherwise.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Nov 3, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Florida in 08 was pretty freaking good
so was 05 Texas/USC (I mean both teams, not the game… although, that was great too).
Weoejuwejhdjwe!
by Chekhov's Spread Gun Option on Nov 4, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
It's too hard to compare one year to the next
which is why I hedges a bit in my wording.
I agree, those were great offenses. I just don’t know if they were clearly better.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Nov 4, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
In my dream of dreams
Oregon beats Auburn in a game like that ’05 MNCG. Only the scores are doubled.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Nov 4, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Either way, I think we can all agree that the game itself was awful
Whether or not you’re a fan of the outcome (re: winning, not re: Blountpunch).
"I've made a huge little mistake." - G.O.B.
Worst college football game I've ever watched.
Really, it was.
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Nov 3, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Nerve-wracking
The whole off-season up until the middle of the 4th quarter I was expecting a Broncos loss. So, given that I kept expecting the Oregon offense to roll of two TDs in five minutes, I was on the edge of my seat the whole game. Sloppy on both sides, though.
We want to build a university our football team can be proud of. -- Dr. George Lynn Cross
The best part of that
Was Colin Cowherd spent most of the week leading up to the game telling us it would be a fantastic offensive showcase. I love it when Cowherd is wrong.
I will freely admit that I am not an x’s and o’s expert, but watching the Ducks against SC, it wasn’t that there was anything crazy exotic: it was incredibly fast, and they are really good. Really really good.
If you can just shut down a scheme, why was SC’s not-exactly-original offense hard to stop in the more firework-y of the Carroll years?
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
I'll play along just for giggles.
Defensive scheme being what it is, you’re still 11-on-11 when the ball snaps. You can scheme all you want to take away particular strengths of an offense, but what part of the 03-05 Trojans wasn’t a strength?
Bush was nearly impossible to take down in the open field.
Jarrett (like M. WIlliams before him) could adjust to any ball in single or, often, double coverage.
Palmer/Leinart was accurate enough to put the ball where it needed to be in that situation and his O-line gave him plenty of time to do so.
Colbert, McFoy etc. were fast enough to get separation against most #2 corners.
White was tough to take down one-on-one, especially with Kalil, Baker, et.al. in front of him.
I sat in the front row of the Coliseum in 2004 and watched the Trojans put up 49 1st half points on an undefeated ASU team. It was the most accurate portrayal of “pick your poision” I’ve ever seen.
In 2005 USC played at Sun Devil Stadium and only posted 3 first half points. ASU did very little pass rushing, held contain on the edges, kept the MLB at home, and dropped everybody else into coverage. Once SC adjusted at halftime LenDale White did whatever he wanted, namely huge gains up the middle. When Sparky tried to adjust to that Bush got involved and SC posted 35 in the second half. Pick your poison.
I’m not sure how to stop Oregon, but I’d wager it involves a secondary that can play well 1-on-1, fast linebackers, and a disciplined front four that can contain the edge and pass rush effectively at the right time. I’d force Thomas to throw and hope for the best.
The up-tempo/conditioning aspect seems to be the difference defenses can’t counteract this year. Eventually someone will figure that out as well, just as every offensive innovation in the history of football has been thwarted at some point. I remember people taking about how the St. Louis Rams were going to change the way the game was played until they lost to the Patriots in the Super Bowl.
^ THIS
Nebraska could possibly shut down Oregon. I don’t know about this year – might not have the LBs and D line to do it, but if there’s a better secondary in college football right now, I’d like to see it. The philosophy Bo & Carl Pelini developed to deal with spread offenses is precisely what you’re suggesting, Big Jon.
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
Last year's Nebraska D vs this year's Oregon O would have been a footballgasm
And don’t think that if Shawn Watson gets a HC job (Hey Minnesota, he’s available!) that NU might not make a strong run at Scott Frost, Oregon’s WR coach.
by Albino Tornado on Nov 4, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
POP QUIZ!
Which is Andrew Luck, and which is Darron Thomas?
QB A: 160.56 Passer Rating, 1,827 Yards, 21 Tds, 311 yards rushing, 2 Tds rushing
QB B: 162.52 Passer Rating, 1,920 Yards, 20 Tds, 337 yards rushing, 3 Tds rushing
Spreading the field horizontally
(whether it was Meyer in his early years, Art Briles at Stephenville, etc.) is used to overcome deficiencies in a team’s offensive line. It is, and always will be, much easier to find a back that can run through a large hole than to find 5 offensive lineman to open up said hole. If the defense is spread horizontally through 4-5 wide receiver sets and larger splits, the holes are already there, the lineman just have to position block and not allow the defender to move them. If you have a road-grating o-line that can move the d-line, linebackers, mascots, etc. 5 yards off the line of scrimmage every time, it doesn’t matter what the scheme is, you should gain yards every time (see early 90’s Cowboys offensive line).
Scheme is only a way to get your players in the best position to win each battle. Like OS said, the reason it works so well for Oregon this year is that they have great players (especially on their o-line) to go with the scheme.
by Raiders on the Storm on Nov 3, 2010 4:29 PM EDT reply actions
Almost . . .
Spreading the field horizontally is used to create better/more winnable matchups for a team’s offensive line and to decrease players in run support behind the defensive line. Sure, it can be used to hide “deficiencies” in the o-line.
However, if an o-line, such as Oregon’s, does not have any notable “deficiencies” and still capitalizes on the better matchups and space created (and has a back like James), the 5-yard “Cowboy’s” runs turn into 75-yard sprints to the end zone.
by SanDiegoDevil on Nov 3, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Who said Urban's offense would never work in the SEC?
Billy Latsko, that’s who.
"Those are my principles, and if you don't like them, well, I have others."
Urbans offense worked when he got 2 of the most prolific players in Tebow and Harvin
running his system. Same way with Oregon. Ya gotta have the players to execute it. Rich Rod, to some degree, has that with Denaurd, and Auburn has it with Cam.
Alabama would have it if our QB could play a decent downfield passing game to open up the run with 2 good backs. Without a downfield presence,or threat of a downfield passng attack, we won’t be able to do much.
The beatings will continue til morale improves.....
That offense did NOT hum without Tebow/Harvin
05 and 06 were anything but great offenses, and ‘10 is unwatchable. However, Tebow’s years in 07-09 made that engine go.
I’m not sold that it works in the SEC without a transcendent player, like Tebow or Ent.
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 4, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
One thing that is missed in Kelly's system
is the benefits of repetition that come in practice. If you want to master something, you must repeat it so many times that everything about what happens becomes second nature to reflexes. Oregon’s practices are some of the most repetitive, fast and high intensity. Look at comments by other coaches, commentators or even NFL guys like Gruden that have come to watch Oregon practice. They are amazed at how many plays they get off in one 2 hour session. This really has three desired purposes:
1. Drill it until it’s natural – If I told you to shoot 1000 free throws in 2 hours per day, every day for 6 months, by the end of those 6 months, you’d be one of the best free throw shooters out there. That’s what Kelly’s practice try and do. Get every play you’re ever going to run and run it so many times that you’re an expert at running those plays. If you combine this with the fact that they have really good athletes and a lot of talent at their different positions, it’s no wonder they’re able to execute at the level that they can.
2. Conditioning – If you have to run the equivalent of two entire football games every day in practice, when the actual games come around, you’re actually happy that you get a break for the day. Many of the players have said time and again that game days are actually easier than practice days.
3. Tempo – If you compressed two games worth of plays into the same amount of time as about 2/3’s of an actual game, then running at a fast pace on game days becomes easy. As Kelly has said, it’s easier to slow down then it is to speed up. Well, that goes for both sides of the ball. It’s easier for Oregon’s offense to slow down then it is for the defense covering Oregon to speed up.
You combine tempo, conditioning and execution with talented players and high effectiveness and you have a lethal combination and all of this is made possible by the way Oregon practices. We heard about how USC was preparing for 2 weeks before they played Oregon by adding extra conditioning to their practices and most of us fans just laughed, because we knew that you can’t start conditioning and training for what Oregon has been doing for 3+ years in two weeks.
(sorry for the long post)
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by Matt Daddy on Nov 3, 2010 5:46 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I heard they lose their composure
If you pinch off moldy pieces of bread and throw it at the Oregon sideline.
"Your beard is weird" "Your stache is trash"
by ATLSTU on Nov 3, 2010 6:12 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
I realize this is a politics-free-zone, but enjoyed this photo of Sen.-elect Marco Rubio...
THAT’S RIGHT BABY…EVEN IN POLITICS WE THROW UP THE “U”!!!
Of course Rubio graduated from UF…law degree is from Miami though.
"law degree is from Miami though"
What? Was Cooley wait-listing him?
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 4, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
UO best in the country hands down
This is the Ducks year! Chip Kelly is a mastermind of influence and leadership and nobody can top their offense. Here is a video of Chip talking about his leadership inspiration that I just found. A very interesting concept… http://waterthebamboo.com/blog/press/oregon-ducks-ranked-1
Accept the Paypal?
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 3, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hello?
Anybody? Big East football on Wednesday night? Anyone?
Well, myself and beer it is then.
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 3, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm stuck at the office...no cable...only low tech digital converter on trusty old 20" analog RCA.
Oh wait…I can probably get the game on my phone. Then again, I will probably be more entertained by Modern Family and Cougar Town.
This, um, "open thread"
might be the best male/female ratio EDSBS has ever seen.
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by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 3, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like it.
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by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 3, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
We don't have a responsible adult supervising.
This will not end well.
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by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 3, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, my child.
Watch the bad football. It is your destiny.
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 3, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Previous comment [REDACTED].
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 3, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
New Vegas.
My kinda town.
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by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 3, 2010 7:19 PM EDT reply actions
That's just sad
Relegated to the deuce and proud to show a sign for it?
I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about rankings, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about rankings.
by HoodRiverDuck on Nov 3, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
CHOOSE MY OWN ADVENTURE!
Tonight’s music selection:
a) Supertramp, “Breakfast in America”
b) Pink Floyd, “Meddle”
c) The Band, “Rock of Ages”
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 3, 2010 7:31 PM EDT reply actions
Bubba...you have almost singlehandedly stopped me from ever making any discernible
expression at a sporting event lest I end up as interweb fodder for ridicule.
Even no expression is an expression, counselor
by PalmettoTiger on Nov 3, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
the incessant lawyering is becoming bothersome
by Oscar Whiskey on Nov 3, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Bothersome is one thing.
Extreme and outrageous is another.
/iied’d
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 3, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm still at the office...so I'm gonna go with worker's comp...
unless this trip to EDSBS constitutes “frolic and detour”. I mean clearly it’s a detour…but are we feeling frolic-y?
THIS WOULD BE THE WORLD WITHOUT YOUR ILK

by Oscar Whiskey on Nov 3, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Less in debt?
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by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 3, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
CONGRATURATION!
Now go for the LLM.
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by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 3, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Time flies when you're paying off student loans.
Fifty will be here before you know it!
Not that I’m there yet.
First, let's kill all the lawyers.
/Shakespear’d
//Taken out of context
by PalmettoTiger on Nov 3, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
And something tells me
you bastards will find a way to bill us for this time together on the message board.
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
/12(b)(6)'d
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 3, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Emotional Distress?
Punative damages claim in 5…4…3…2…Wait, ambulance just went by. Hang on a sec.
by PalmettoTiger on Nov 3, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I SAW IT FIRST!
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 3, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
AND IT WAS GLORIOUS
(as well as glorious failure by the Bulls)
Devils in my heart! Devils in my mind! Devils in my eyes! Devils until I die!
In Lou We Trust - The New Jersey Devils SBN Blog
WTF?!
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 4, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
BATTLE SPECIAL TEAMS
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by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 3, 2010 7:41 PM EDT reply actions
Looks like I stumbled into greatness
Dr. Ausgiano schools me in the classroom and on the field of battle
by MarioVanPeebles Republic of China on Nov 3, 2010 7:46 PM EDT reply actions
I liked this game before it was the second quarter.
/hipster’d
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by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 3, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Special Teams Pep Talk!
“HAY EVERYBODY STOP. JUST STOP, OK? Nobody touch the Robinson. Understood? K. Good. Now continue with the football.”
you know what it was like
it was like in the Genesis game of Moonwalker, I thought Robinson threw his hat to make all the bad guys do a dance with him, which then killed them.
I'm drinking something called Hop Czar.
Draw your own conclusions.
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 3, 2010 7:51 PM EDT reply actions
没有四迷
所以我不幸。
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 3, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Imperial IPA
Googled that. Wow! I bet it’s delicious.
by PalmettoTiger on Nov 3, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
It is.
It’s also 7.5% by volume.
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 3, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought the lable said 8%.
Either way, that’ll do the job nicely, yes.
by PalmettoTiger on Nov 3, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Sadly
our Oregon beer selection is limited here in Chicago. Rogue Dead Guy goes for about $13 for a six pack.
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 3, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Our selection has improved lately
The Charleston Beer Exchange has some nice offerings. I spend too much time just aimlessly browsing. They also ship, FYI.
by PalmettoTiger on Nov 3, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Screw our football team...
If there is one thing our state needs to share with the world, it’s the glorious amount of beer we produce here
I was lucky.
In college, one of my best friends always brought cases of awesome Portland beer when he came back to school.
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 3, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Nicely Done
Bridgeport is a special brew from my home town of Portland. Good beer, enjoy.
ATQ's #1 Double D fan
Addicted to Quack
Isn't there some way to filter these out by content?
they keep pointing to the same two sites.
It’s the social drinkers that have the problem- they need others to validate their drinking. Drinking alone is the sign that you’re okay with your spot in the universe. - ElRocco337
Someday they will erect a great statute in KG's honor, made only of fiberglass.
And it will look like Michael Jordan.
A deep pass from Dodd that actually is caught?
A lateral to Sanu for a touchdown pass on the next play?
Rutgers about to crack 20 points?
What is this Rutgers team I’ve been watching all year?
Devils in my heart! Devils in my mind! Devils in my eyes! Devils until I die!
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I can answer this as an alum
It’s the reason students and faculty give when something administrative goes awry against them. Needing classes that aren’t offered, incorrect bills, classes requiring books that aren’t offered, etc. The “RU Screw” as it were.
Devils in my heart! Devils in my mind! Devils in my eyes! Devils until I die!
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In light of that, the shirt is kind of cool
Now stop it with these silly “facts”
by PalmettoTiger on Nov 3, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
what's not cool
rutgers fans in USF student section, left unmolested
even worse: phillyfan rutgers fan
Rutgers is the STATE University of New Jersey. This includes confused southern NJ people who think Philly is all that and a bag of chips.
Devils in my heart! Devils in my mind! Devils in my eyes! Devils until I die!
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So much haute society in one small jpeg
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 4, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Take us through the genesis of the playcall.
IN THE BEGINNING THERE WAS SCREEN PASS, AND COTG SAW THAT IT WAS GOOD.
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 3, 2010 8:33 PM EDT reply actions
Soooo
Anyone else still got Halloween candy left?
I wish it would be done less, but using Deering more has proved to be a good move along with mixing up the playcalling on it so it isn’t just a run up the middle.
Devils in my heart! Devils in my mind! Devils in my eyes! Devils until I die!
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The great state of Vermont
will not apologize for its cheese!
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 3, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeez, Vermont, you haven't had a football team for 35 years
and you pick Rutgers to latch on to?
My new blog: Those Other Guys. Critiques welcome.
You are mistaken, that was fantastic.
Devils in my heart! Devils in my mind! Devils in my eyes! Devils until I die!
In Lou We Trust - The New Jersey Devils SBN Blog
HAHAHA A WHISTLE IN THE CROWD
Someone emulating a referee at a college football game? Who would ever do tha… oh, wait. :-(
Used by the Rays' Dan Johnson as walk up music this season...
and I enjoyed the hell out of it…EVERY TIME!
Music on the PA System
It sounds like they play the same song Brian McCann was using for his at bats. Something about hands up. Any of you young rascals out there know the name of it?
Thanks
Now I have something to talk to the high school girls about.
by Kang and Kodos on Nov 3, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Safety
Uggggggh. Also: Hnnnnnnnnnnnng. Also: Dodd – did you not notice the checkdown had a large man in green hugging him?
Devils in my heart! Devils in my mind! Devils in my eyes! Devils until I die!
In Lou We Trust - The New Jersey Devils SBN Blog
If that was an arm punt, it was pretty badly shanked.
Arm punts are deep throws that get picked off; the end result is the same as a punt (hence the name).
See this year's WLOCP for a perfect example of such.
I even stated it at the time in the stands…in an attempt to make myself feel better about an INT.
Oh.
Well, those get shanked too.
/hangs head
by PalmettoTiger on Nov 3, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I did the same thing on the CI thread
Where I dropped probably too much detail defending my post. I’ve been smited. Smooted. Whatever.
by PalmettoTiger on Nov 3, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
The horror...
I turned my TV on to watch the game only to be greeted by the image of Stephen A. Smith.
He's just excited that Randy Shannon's house will be for sale in 6 weeks.
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 4, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Story of the season: pass protection failure.
Devils in my heart! Devils in my mind! Devils in my eyes! Devils until I die!
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by John Fischer on Nov 3, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
USF might want to go into the victory formation early.
The last two plays have looked like disasters waiting to happen.
Does this count as excitement?
I mean, it’s interesting. But it’s the Big East. And it’s Rutgers-USF. And it’s not 2006/2007 anymore.
drunk, here, and probably leaving in 15. but the gf has seized the remote
score?
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Wait, is it pronounced Kuh-TOO-loo?
’Cause I always said Kuh-THOO-loo.
/west coast South Park feed
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/aaaaaand completely alone
/considers getting life
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