GARCIA SHRUGGED
by Spencer Hall on Nov 11, 2010 11:52 AM EST
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PrintStephen Garcia, in addition to his quarterbacking, has been branching out into fiction writing. He's influenced by Ayn Rand, as is clearly visible in the passage below.
They approached the stadium.
He was a tall man. His hair was long because he wanted to be because men wore their hair as they chose where came from, which is where he came from. The orange walls of the stadium looked familiar to him. That's where he had failed before on the green grass that lay out in a vast, plundered rectangle like a green unconquerable rectangle and was full of grass, thousand of blades of green failure arrayed against him like green toy soldiers following the commands of a fleshy, doughy leader urging them forward to their doom for his good, not theirs.
He would force that grass to his pleasure. And it would yield, and like it.
"Garcia is the name," he said. The sullen, weak woman at the gate checked her mincing bureaucratic clipboard, the flimsy shield the weak took into battle against better men.
The woman had the narrow eyes and pale, milky skin of someone who did not know sun or work. A looter. They all wore orange and blue here without an original though in their heads and wore their hair in the same way: gelled, with gel in the hair and lots of gel. Gel was the concrete that held their corrupt lazy bricks together and the sea they drowned the individual in, the medium for their failure.
Garcia's hair hung free and bold, with only a hint of a secret shampoo he mixed in his underground sex laboratory using the powers of his brain and his sex. It was where he, the man of unsoiled integrity and vision, escaped from the world to craft the things Garcia knew the world needed: sex-attracting shampoo, waterproof and bulletproof space pants to soar the skies in, motorcycles that ran on squirrels' blood, the elemental elements of the earth extracted by hands crusty from the earth pulled off its useless hide like the flakes of dandruff he turned to gold in his Dandruff-To-Gold Machine, which like his intellect and penis he hoped would survive the grasping hands of looters and those who sought to tear him and all that was precious to humanity and himself--which were in fact the same thing.
He looked around him: the cinder block walls, no doubt stolen from some lone genius's worksite where he was building a beautiful skyscraper to violate the virgin thighs of the sky--the thighs that would yield to him and his ideas alone, and perhaps in a small percentage to the illegal Mexican workers he paid to make it for him. They built if for him and were grateful for their service to his vision, since they had none and required his bold leadership to give their lives some meaning in the vast nothingness of their life of rodeo-themed clothing and collective despair.
"I'm here for the football game," he said, a look of steely determination in his eye and the grit from a rock drill in his teeth. He had grit in his teeth because he liked to drill rock because that was what men did to rock: they drilled it, and asked no questions why not concerned with what other men might think. When he was awake, he was throwing touchdowns, or drilling rock, or constructing fantastic machines, and sometimes playing video games because men of genius did what they needed to and asked no pardon, especially when Call of Duty: Black Ops had just come out a couple of days before.
(Even there, looters! Everywhere, lurking in corners with unmasculine, fey weapons like the remote controlled cars that did their bidding, or bombing away at a distance. Like cockroaches, they hid in the dark and beset the men who dared strolled unafraid through the sunny, unprotected boulevards of life.)
"You are--" He cut her off, because he was in control.
"Garcia. Stephen Garcia. You might ask: 'Who is Stephen Garcia?'"
"We know." We. They always hid behind that word, he thought.
"You said that out loud. I'm referring to my co-worker, Alice, who also handles family tickets."
Alice waved. She, too, had the friendly, simpering air of a looter eyeing him and his hair for things to steal.
"Where's the rest of the team?"
"Team? I am my own team, ma'am."
They smiled. They always did when confronted with a towering imperious figure of the undeniable freeman before him. It was fear-grinning like the apes of the jungle performed, a baring of the teeth he knew to be uncloaked aggression. He didn't let them have the satisfaction of drawing him into their web of weak courtesy.
"But where's your offensive line?"
Garcia began to speak. The air was still. The people listened. They yielded to his words.
[At this point Stephen Garcia's character in the novel embarks on an astonishingly narcissistic rant of more than 30 pages in length containing a completely fictional reading of South Carolina football and indeed the history of football itself. We will spare you its content save for its final paragraph, presented unaltered here.]
"---then, after facing this team of collectivists so craven they play with three quarterbacks, three quarterbacks assuming the role played by three--is there nothing more slovenly, so demeaning to the human spirit as this, three quarterbacks?--then I shall stride down the field under my own power, driven by my own vision unaided, into the endzone.
I will do it, and in the process save mankind. I will plunder it, yes. I will plunder it into a freedom unknown in its history."
Then he had sex with both of the women without asking, and they clambered after him gratefully as he strode on the green rectangle alone. He died on the football field that day as all those who bear the Promethean flame of wisdom do: a lone scrambling figure moving to his right, chased by odds of one to eleven, though sometimes more when Spurrier remembered to give the ball to Marcus Lattimore.
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I was going to ask where the rape was
And lo, in the last paragraph, there it was.
Though it could be argued that there still wasn’t enough rape.
"Death is but a doorway, time is but a window, I'll be back."
-Vigo the Carpathian
"Rape, murder, arson, and rape."
“You said rape twice.”
“I like rape.”
Much easier to ignore the questionable quality of things that are covered in cheese.
by allicolls on Nov 11, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The best part is that we still have one more year of material to get out of him.
by She Blinded Me With Violence on Nov 11, 2010 11:59 AM EST reply actions
Oh boy
He’s going to be an 8th-year senior?
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
2010 World Series Champions San Francisco Giants
You know, Orson, I was having a pretty good day.
And then you brought Ayn Rand into the picture.
I give you a rec, specifically because you don’t need a rec, and therefore Ayn Rand says it has no value to you. Also, I hate her.
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 11, 2010 12:01 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
MIND LOOTER
Because college football is too important to be left to the professionals.
by Spencer Hall on Nov 11, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
^ this ^
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 11, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Clearly you are part of the collectivist scourge which ails us
The true nature of man is not by the accomplishments he can grasp at from a tertiary position, but of meeting his individual dreams wherein only the prescient nature of self interest may provide the lush backdrop by which he can do his work. The work of a man not bound by the shackles of serfdom to a collectivist entity set to use him, and then claim his victories as their own.
/Rothbard’d
I wanted to hate you, Spencer.
At least for this week. But I just can’t after this.
What a shame...
This is the first time in 3 years of lurking that I feel the need to post anything. This is typically a well written website. It is often funny, and is seldom anything other than entertaining.
However, “Garcia Shrugged” stretches the limits of credulity. Stick to writing what you know, because Rand isn’t it.
by Eric Falgout on Nov 11, 2010 12:09 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Who had nine comments in?
Because college football is too important to be left to the professionals.
by Spencer Hall on Nov 11, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions 8 recs
I had the under, too.
Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.
by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Nov 11, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
I would have guessed 5.
"I’ll tell you one thing: The grass at Tiger Stadium tastes best."
by LesMilesEatsGrass on Nov 11, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
I had the over
Didn’t figure these folks and your readership had much overlap.
Et Universitatis Ohioensis delenda est!
I can't believe
anyone took the over on that. They’re the craziest crazies on the internet, and they’re omnipresent. I thought the first comment would be someone taking offense.
"They're the craziest crazies on the internet."
Dude, we’ve got Bama fans here.
Et Universitatis Ohioensis delenda est!
now they're going to show up and defend
the legitimacy of their “craziest on the internets” national championship
If you win all your fights, you're pickin em
by imhugeinjapan on Nov 11, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Defense is unnecessary
It stands on its own merit.
"Shave your head, get a wet sponge, and flip the switch, 'cause you're about to get a Truthocution!" -Stephen Colbert
by Slice of Life on Nov 11, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Perhaps we need a playoff
Proposed field could include:
Bammers (top seed)
Randians (2nd seed)
“One-peat” Barners
Truthers
Kentucky basketball fans
Daily Kos posters
marshall.rivals.com (gotta rep the mid-majors)
I’ll let y’all set the brackets.
Et Universitatis Ohioensis delenda est!
No Dukies?
IrishEyes posters should be up there, and probably RedStaters, to get some partisan balance.
Fair points
I’d leave off Dukies, if only because there aren’t enough of them.
Birthers definitely make a sixteen-team bracket — maybe even a round of eight.
Et Universitatis Ohioensis delenda est!
Dukies, especially grad school dukies= too busy and hungry to be anything but apathetic
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
I think RedStaters are covered by the Randians
"They've just discovered a new use for sheep over there at Clemson... wool." - Lewis Grizzard
by GwinnettGamecock on Nov 11, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
Very little overlap there
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
Could've sworn I saw a couple of Ayn Rand quotes as taglines,
but I could have it confused with somewhere else.
"They've just discovered a new use for sheep over there at Clemson... wool." - Lewis Grizzard
by GwinnettGamecock on Nov 11, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
not that libertarian==objectivist
nor that ron paul supporters == libertarian or objectivist (but there is a lot of overlap between all 3), red states purge of RP supporters in 2007 guaranteed little overlap.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
I don't want anything to do with Truthers 'til the championship round
"Shave your head, get a wet sponge, and flip the switch, 'cause you're about to get a Truthocution!" -Stephen Colbert
by Slice of Life on Nov 11, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Truthers are pushovers
They give up 12 YPC to the iso because they keep looking for the fake.
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
by Dogrel on Nov 11, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 30 recs
So much rec.
But some of us can do that without being truthers.
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 11, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
It's a well-known fact that...
…a running game cannot break a defense by itself.*
*Curt Gowdy, 1974, NBC NFL broadcast
by Golden Hand on Nov 11, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
rec'd so hard, you have no idea.
seriously, I’m dying here.
"'I wish to hell God would stop trying to make me a better person." - T.J. Lambert
by Signal to Noise on Nov 11, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
You left out birthers
That would fill your field out to eight.
by Golden Hand on Nov 11, 2010 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
No love for the Onion AV club? or the board that shall not be named for fear of invoking their presence? (chan'd)
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
good point: also a great dark horse is the NYT and WaPo comment boards
especially the business an financial articles. Sweet lord that is great reading.
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
You want really crazy?
Try ZeroHedge commenters.
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 11, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
at least they know a modicum of what they're talking about
NYT commenters from both sides of the aisle make me want to move back to Asia.
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Some of them do, that's true.
But I sense much Glenn Beckery lurking there.
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 11, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
Every newspaper comments section
You might think the NYT would dodge that, but it doesnt.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
Hey, an Stratfor and a few others in the community have been shorting the Euro for months- well into last year
it just took a while for people with money in the game to realize that the spreads were becoming too big.
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
You get some prime crazy on AOL boards
Are there AOL boards any more? Stupid, ignorant people angrily declaiming their stupid, ignorant opinions in the worst English possible. Tasty!
Oh, don’t forget Freepers.
by Golden Hand on Nov 11, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Well
someone has to use the 50,000 free hours.
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 11, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Well, maybe we need a 32-team tournament
I don’t want Dickie V yelling at me on television about all the bubble crazies I left out.
Et Universitatis Ohioensis delenda est!
You left out Jets fans
Wait, that would imply they can read and write. Nevermind.
My bad.
by sullivan013 on Nov 11, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Can we get some love for YouTube posters?
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 11, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
YouTube is more a fount of stupid than crazy.
Crazy implies staying power. YouTube commenters don’t last for more than a sentence before they’re off to something else.
That 17-year-old Hokie sitting in the Greensboro Coliseum rafters in 1997 didn't see any of this coming.
Fixed that for ya.
YouTube commenters don’t last for more than a sentence brief vomiting of letters and symbols before they’re off to something else.
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 11, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
ur an azzhole you dont no anytheng abou=— hey, where’s my Mountain Dew?
/ADHD’d
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
kewl
now do it like Hipster Runoff.
Hey Oliver Luck, I absolutely hate that WVU is "the winningest college football team to have never won a National Championship". You think you could do something about that?
by MtnEer_in_SC on Nov 11, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
Any seeding with AL.com posters
is worthless.
My only argument is you're stupid.
by boddagettaflyer on Nov 11, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
*without
>.<
/DAMMIT HOLLY, WE’RE STILL WAITING ON THE FRAPPIN’ EDIT BUTTON!
My only argument is you're stupid.
by boddagettaflyer on Nov 11, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
... you understand I have absolutely no control over that, right?
________________________________
I will give my shirt for Tennessee today.
by Holly Anderson on Nov 11, 2010 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
Sweet jeebus...
You mean… (gasp) you’re NOT omnipotent?!??!
Hey Oliver Luck, I absolutely hate that WVU is "the winningest college football team to have never won a National Championship". You think you could do something about that?
by MtnEer_in_SC on Nov 11, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
And personally, I'd never want one.
I’d rather deal with the occasional typo than the carnage that could ensue with trolls re-editing innocuous comments, etc.
________________________________
I will give my shirt for Tennessee today.
by Holly Anderson on Nov 11, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
sweet God
i wonder if some of those folks still think that they are using a typewriter.
/puts whiteout on screen
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by CoastalCowbell on Nov 11, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
Finebaum's Show
I’ve now listened to that a few times. So when I say “the craziest crazies on the internet,” it is with full knowledge of what we’re dealing with.
I dunno. I've read Rand, and I'd be hard-pressed to tell the difference.
"In case you're wondering what the offense should look like, that wasn't it." - Urban Meyer
by cantcatchuf on Nov 11, 2010 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
RAND FAIL
Garcia never shot anyone in the face in cold blood for being a looter. Someone couldn’t be bothered to read the other 1,000 page objectivist manifesto…
You've read both The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged?
I don’t know whether to admire or fear you.
"I’ll tell you one thing: The grass at Tiger Stadium tastes best."
by LesMilesEatsGrass on Nov 11, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
/raises hand
What’s worse, I’ve re-read them both three times.
I have to be able to defuse the loonier aspects, you see.
My new blog: Those Other Guys. Critiques welcome.
"We The Living"
is actually not a bad novel. Then again, it’s far more plausible to criticize the Soviet Union under Lenin for collectivist excesses than, say, “anyone everywhere ever.”
by Owls and Goephs and Craep on Nov 11, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
I've read Atlas Shrugged several times
…but bailed on The Fountainhead halfway through, because NetFlix sent me the movie.
Now I gotta get me a “Who Is Stephen Garcia?” bumpersticker.
It’s a cute parody, but we won’t still be reading it (and arguing about it) forty years from now.
by thronedoggie on Nov 11, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Been there, done that
What else is college for?
Some experiment with mind-altering hallucogenics… others try drugs.
Anthem is an easier read.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
Multiple Times
along with Anthem, For The New Intellectual, The Virtue of Selfishness, and Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal.
I had ywo philosophy professors who absolutley hated Rand, and made no bones about telling the class. I therefore did most of my papers on her works figuring they’d grade me well just to show they weren’t biased.
Hey Oliver Luck, I absolutely hate that WVU is "the winningest college football team to have never won a National Championship". You think you could do something about that?
by MtnEer_in_SC on Nov 11, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
For the most part, yes
and there were side benefits too.
Hey Oliver Luck, I absolutely hate that WVU is "the winningest college football team to have never won a National Championship". You think you could do something about that?
by MtnEer_in_SC on Nov 11, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
Side benefits (reprised from The Curious Index Sept 17,2010)
In my day, if you knew who John Galt was you could get laid by any of the erstwhile scholar-chicks who walked around clutching Atlas Shrugged to their slim but oh-so-ready-to-be-heaving breasts. All you had to do was tell them they had earned it as a recognition of their intrinsic worth.
Hey Oliver Luck, I absolutely hate that WVU is "the winningest college football team to have never won a National Championship". You think you could do something about that?
by MtnEer_in_SC on Nov 11, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
/slow clap
Bravo sir.
"I’ll tell you one thing: The grass at Tiger Stadium tastes best."
by LesMilesEatsGrass on Nov 11, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
I lived across from Tutwiler (women's dorm at Alabama)
I would just invite over dejected would-be sorority girls from Bid Day.
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 11, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
You're right.
If Orson really understood Rand, he would have started writing this post by putting a dog turd in his computer’s USB port.
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 11, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
LOOTER
Because college football is too important to be left to the professionals.
by Spencer Hall on Nov 11, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No.
It started as a rape, and then we started to like, it, and then something something lathes and skyscrapers and 400 page speech.
Because college football is too important to be left to the professionals.
by Spencer Hall on Nov 11, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
400 page speech that sounds like it was translated straight from Russian, then you realize it sounds worse in Russian...
The woman makes Hegel in German appealing.
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Thankfully, she smoked herself to death long before my time.
But in intrinsic reality, she needed those cigarettes. Neeeeeeeeeded.
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 11, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
The smokes made her happy....
…..and the chase for individual happiness is the basis for objectivism, right?
In South Bend, Indiana
it most certainly is.
/45 minute wait for the smoking section
//no wait for non-smoking section
///seriously
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 11, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Wait, wut? You still have smoking sections in Indiana?
I don’t think I’ve seen one of those since the 90’s…
My only argument is you're stupid.
by boddagettaflyer on Nov 11, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
West Lafayette/Lafayette
has smoking bans. Hell, on campus there’s something like a dozen or so areas where you’re allowed to smoke on campus.
I thought that was Nihilism?
i.e., “Everything is permitted”
"A kilo of cocaine would not be considered a 'modest amount'" - The Boston Police Department
Oh no, Rand hated that whole line of thinking
You had to be able to logically prove (by her standards of logic) that something was good for you before you could do it. Doing it because it felt good was insufficient reason.
Hey Oliver Luck, I absolutely hate that WVU is "the winningest college football team to have never won a National Championship". You think you could do something about that?
by MtnEer_in_SC on Nov 11, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
No, no
Doing it because it felt good was fine.
Doing it because it made you feel good was not.
Very subtle distinction, but an important one in her ethos.
My new blog: Those Other Guys. Critiques welcome.
I took ‘doing [blank] because it feels good’ to belong more to decadence, such as Sade, than the nihilism of Nietzsche or Dostoyevsky (I’ve been reading The Rebel by Camus, and he spends a good 80 pages on differing nihilist-type philosophies). I thought that, for Nietzsche, actions were based less on feeling and more on his strange ethical system that demanded that one destroy the old morality and create their own.
"A kilo of cocaine would not be considered a 'modest amount'" - The Boston Police Department
Oh, it had nothing to do with decadence or hedonism.
Actually, on further reflection, I didn’t even go far enough. There’s a passage in Shrugged, somewhere in one of the numerous diatribes against Hank Rearden’s pack of lazy useless relatives (and isn’t it funny that none of Rand’s philosophy works if you make the “villians” real people rather than completely ridiculous cartoons?) where Rand essentially says that if the act of doing nice things for other people brings you pleasure in and of itself, then that’s acceptable, because doing so actually is acting in your own interest.
It’s when you do them because it’s expected of you or because they demand it or because they guilt you into it that it becomes unacceptable, because then you are acting against your own interests and failing to take control of your own life.
My new blog: Those Other Guys. Critiques welcome.
"Garcia Shrugged" stretches the limits of credulity
So you’re saying there’s no such thing as a motorcycle that runs on squirrels’ blood?
by Spartan D on Nov 11, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
if you ferment it like reindeer blood, there has to be a chance that would work, right?
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
I thought that was the purpose of college.
I figured this was the reason squirrels heavily populate college campuses…. for the blood harvests.
If there's anything Chapel Hill, Durham, or Columbia have, it's squirrels
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
At Vanderbilt
They out-populate the undergrads. And it’s not even close.
To be fair, the Vandy football team regularly beats the Squirrels in scrimmages, though.
by GamecockTony on Nov 11, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
I've seen them do it with kitchen grease in Alaska- it didn't look that complicated
though Top Gear illustrated what happens when you do it wrong- it’s highly corrosive to the interior belts and stuff
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
You are directing humor to the utterly humorless
and those unable to detect irony if it stood and bit them in the tushie. Closed minds…
by gamedaytribe on Nov 11, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
this guy's off the christmas card list
And uninvited to my semiannual gather a bunch of behavioral economists and theologians around a bonfire of Ayn Rand books teaparty. (CONCENTRATIONS Of CAPITOL ARE IMPOSSIBLE UNDER HER [admittedly stupid) FRAMEWORK, GAWDAMMIT!).
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Ayn Rand says "Grow a pair.'
Pretty sure that’s a quote from one of her books.
*also a long time lurker spurred to action by this comment. Everyone is fair game…
by Woody's Right Cross on Nov 11, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
An Ayn Rand fan not having a sense of humor?
Now I’ve seen everything!
by Doug Gillett on Nov 11, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
+1
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 11, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Nobody? OK!
________________________________
I will give my shirt for Tennessee today.
by Holly Anderson on Nov 11, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Forgive us, COTG,
for ignoring the proper use of this gift from thy chapped, nail-bitten hand…
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
Where's the part in which the stadium collapses, and all the non-heroes die eo ipso legitimate deaths, for the failed to distinguish themselves and follow the principles that would vindicate their right to be?
Via implicatio, does this suggestive question make me a looter?
by Owls and Goephs and Craep on Nov 11, 2010 12:15 PM EST reply actions
Where's the part
about how Stephen Garcia would not accept $200,000 for his services, because money no longer has any value, untethered as it is to the value of a man’s genius?
My new blog: Those Other Guys. Critiques welcome.
by jonfmorse on Nov 11, 2010 12:20 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Holly's going to get this tattooed on her now.
And you’re the one to blame.
Because college football is too important to be left to the professionals.
by Spencer Hall on Nov 11, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
YUP
________________________________
I will give my shirt for Tennessee today.
by Holly Anderson on Nov 11, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Would you kindly
complete a pass for a TD?
"I’ll tell you one thing: The grass at Tiger Stadium tastes best."
by LesMilesEatsGrass on Nov 11, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I've screamed that at my TV a couple of times while watching Brantley
he needs at least a blitz recognition+ plasmid to do anything this year.
Weoejuwejhdjwe!
by Chekhov's Spread Gun Option on Nov 11, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
I gotta get
one of those dandruff-to-gold machines.
Powered by Rumpleskinsilt?
"Shave your head, get a wet sponge, and flip the switch, 'cause you're about to get a Truthocution!" -Stephen Colbert
by Slice of Life on Nov 11, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Bed, Bath and BeyondYourWildestImagination
I’m sure my wife has a coupon.
by GamecockTony on Nov 11, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sounds like a sex shop.
"Shave your head, get a wet sponge, and flip the switch, 'cause you're about to get a Truthocution!" -Stephen Colbert
by Slice of Life on Nov 11, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Nah - Sharper Image.
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
B,B&BYWI is worthy of a rec
Hey Oliver Luck, I absolutely hate that WVU is "the winningest college football team to have never won a National Championship". You think you could do something about that?
by MtnEer_in_SC on Nov 11, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Wow
I…just wow…where’s TMM when you need him….
um, where are we going, and why are we in this handbasket?
by Big_Mikethebulldawg on Nov 11, 2010 12:37 PM EST reply actions
As a libertarian
You deal with the Objectivists from time to time, even though any true connection with libertarians means they get kicked out of the objectivist club. The story goes that Murray Rothbard knew Ayn Rand, and was involved in the objectivist group, but was kicked out because he had a Christian wife that he wouldn’t cheat on. Ayn Rand said that was irrational, and gave him the heave ho.
The whole Greenspan thing is funny too...
Monetarism in its most effective form is a tricky beast, but it seems to me to be almost anti-Randian, and Greenspan was for a long time one of her most powerful disciples while also a strong monetarist (shit didn’t work out so well for him, as we now know)
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Monetarism still involves growing the money supply at an annual rate
That’s basically pure evil to Rand. She took a lot of what the Austrians said and made it a crazy kind of “toe the line” thing. Telling a bunch of anarchists they have to toe the line isn’t going to work particularly well.
the whole concentration of capital thing always, always bites them in the ass- they have no paradigm in which it's ethical to work together (classical "too many chiefs" problem), so they can't build meaningful capital structure
unless they compromise, which, you know, isn’t allowed. Most objectivists are excuse making socialists, really.
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
It certainly is a problem
But I don’t think it’s the problem. I think their main problem is that it’s difficult to quantify everything objectively. You can’t quantify why you like certain music. You just do. Similarly, you can’t quantify every time you take a chance on a person or a goal or a desire. This is why we have an indifference curve in economics. If everything was objective, no curve would exist. You’d always want this certain ideal basket of goods.
It just creates a culture that’s impossible to operate as setting the standards by which to reach some kind of objective value will vary from person to person. Ayn Rand once said that she could, objectively, point out why Fred Astaire was a great dancer. That says pretty much all you need to know.
by Charles UF on Nov 11, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not dissimilar to Scientology
Hey, kids, you know what’s wrong with your life? Those pesky emotions! Get rid of ‘em and you’ll be happy! Well, not happy, of course, but you know what I mean.
That will be $5,000.
That's why I fall firmly in the behavioral camp
full quantification is impossible… but the opposite argument (that individual action doesn’t matter, the models work anyway and you can assume rationality, Chi school and neoclassicism) are also wrong- the math does get more complex (a lot of bad theory to me seems like a fear of advanced or more complicated math), but you have to include behavioral cycles and tweaks in your models (using observational data to create predictive models is a pain in the ass, and is often just trial and error and frustration, but sometimes it almost always works in explaining a better fit for observed and predicted behavior than other frameworks). I don’t think everything quantified, but I think it’s worth pursuing more quantification of individual, group, and systemic action.
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
"A lot of bad theory to me seems like a fear of advanced or more complicated math."
This makes me sad. Because it’s true.
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 11, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
I lean more towards the idea that people will do what's in their best interest
If you can adequately map what people’s best interests are. We all define success by different metrics. Keeping that in mind is able to explain neoclassicalism or chicago school to a larger degree than the idea that people will do what’s best for them. People will rarely do what’s best for them, but people will do what’s in their best interest if their best interest includes smoking crack compared to the opportunity cost of purchasing an exercise machine.
Unfortunately, economics is a field that is difficult to quantify due to the complexity it inhabits. An economic environment will never be simple enough to be able to make a single strong case for any economic theory explaining it. I’ve seen neo Keynesian and Chicago school papers on the lost decade in Japan, and both are able to extrapolate entirely different conclusions using real, honest facts, but the system is too complicated to know anything for sure.
I remember Krugman was explaining something about the sticky nature of unemployment and he said “It doesn’t really work in theory, but it works great in practice.” To that I would respond, than the theory isn’t adequately designed or they’d both look good.
Utility
the shiftiest metric.
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
At first glance I read that as "shitfest".
I like that better.
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 11, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This thread is win...
"Orators are most vehement when their cause is weak" Marcus Tullius Cicero
by Stuck in the Plains on Nov 11, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
Ayn Rand
Inadvertently Discredting Von Mises Since the Korean War.™
My new blog: Those Other Guys. Critiques welcome.
Greenspan took the job that Galt turned down.
Conference homers are the lowest form of fandom. That is why the SEC has so many of them.
I read "The Passion of Ayn Rand" by Barbara Branden for a Lit class in college.
I knew about Atlas Shrugged prior to that, but reading the biography made that and The Fountainhead must reads. I figured anybody with that big an axe to grind and that amount of crazy with which to sharpen it deserved a look-see. Even though I’m still in the “looter” class, I thoroughly enjoyed both.
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
Ditto
I had read all her works several times. I can’t remember why, now, apart from a childhood addiction to reading. I am entertained by many things. It was only coming to this country and finding people actually living/believing/talking the crazy talk that had me absolutely flabbergasted.
by gamedaytribe on Nov 11, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
I read Atlas Shrugged when I was 20 (3 years ago)
and I was able to gather that Ayn Rand had some interesting ideas, but her actual writing combined with some of her logical leaps combined with some of the self-righteousness made it all too much. If you’re from a communist system, I can see how you might go the opposite direction, but I just don’t think she had the requisite background knowledge necessary to articulate her arguments in a way that seemed overboard. Hayek’s Road to Serfdom was far more effective.
Was Barbara Branden's book written before or after...
Rand had shitcanned her and her husband Nathaniel for Leonard Piekoff?
Hey Oliver Luck, I absolutely hate that WVU is "the winningest college football team to have never won a National Championship". You think you could do something about that?
by MtnEer_in_SC on Nov 11, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Well after. Rand died in 1982, Passion came out in '86
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
Yup.
Reading about how Rand quantified the affair she wanted to have with Nathaniel (or up and had – I can’t zactly remember) was mind-boggling for a Nebraska pig farmer’s kid.
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
speechless.....
shut this site down, I think the pinnacle has been reached.
Bravo, bravo, bravo.
by A Bullet from Burger on Nov 11, 2010 12:58 PM EST reply actions
Never in my wildest nightmares
did I think that I’d be left out of the conversation in a football blog because I wasn’t up on my Ayn Rand.
God, I love this place.
Repeat after me:
I am
sofa king
wee todd ed
-- Aqua Teen Hunger Force
by An 'eer with a beer on Nov 11, 2010 12:59 PM EST reply actions
I'm with ya
Stupid Orson and his English major + International Affair graduate degree.
"I don't wear no Stetson..."
by Gen. Stoopnagle on Nov 11, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
I’m reasonably literate and have a degree in international political economy, but I’ve never felt compelled to read Rand. It’s still an entertaining thread.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
Same here
I’m looting the shit out of this comment thread, though. At least I think I am.
"I've made a huge little mistake." - G.O.B.
I tried going Galt but the collectivists are still paying me
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
Great, ain't it?
Bradley-Terry ratings for college football and basketball
Because there aren't enough computer rankings already.
Does this mean
that Cam Newton, AJ Green, Marcel Dareus, et al. are going to take their football talents to a valley in Colorado camouflated permanently in cloud rather than being denied their right to self enrichment?
Now that Dan Hawkins had been fired
Their Objectivist dreams can be realized.
"I’ll tell you one thing: The grass at Tiger Stadium tastes best."
by LesMilesEatsGrass on Nov 11, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
Hank Rearden is going to CU?
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
Francisco D'Anconia
Deliberately sabotaged the CU program so that Rearden and Dagny would come.
"I’ll tell you one thing: The grass at Tiger Stadium tastes best."
by LesMilesEatsGrass on Nov 11, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
I would make a joke about
Colorado football being camouflaged under Hawkins, but they did somehow manage to beat my alma mater.
// Hangs head in shame.
How is Devner gonna get all of those draft picks?
And how is Newton going seriously take Tim Tebow’s place in Josh McDaniel’s heart Denver’s depth chart?
I was waiting to hear what the Garcia Atlantis would be
Cam Newton’s Legs = Rearden Steel
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk. Then we shall find, and beat the asses of, the nonbelievers who ruined my feast.
– Alvis
Alvis bless us, everyone!!
AP Senior English
Someone tried to select Atlas Shrugged for their research paper. Mrs. S, bless her heart, shut them down with, ’This is AP Literature. Ayn Rand is not literature."
"They've just discovered a new use for sheep over there at Clemson... wool." - Lewis Grizzard
by GwinnettGamecock on Nov 11, 2010 1:23 PM EST reply actions
Well, if "literature" means the pretentious word-wankery that most of my English classes assigned ...
… then you’re damn right LotR isn’t “literature”.
Bradley-Terry ratings for college football and basketball
Because there aren't enough computer rankings already.
This always makes me sad
English major, future 1L here, and there’s so much good stuff that college classes just murder and that then become that “pretentious word wankery.” Just…come back to some of it, without the strictures of class and grades and all the other horseshit they collar you with and give it another shot. Some of it’s shit, certainly (Fuck the Romantics, amirite?) but there’s good stuff there, stuff that will enrich your life.
For me it was high school classes that were really awful
My college writing class was on Russian film, so I never really had to deal with university-level butchery. And senior year they actually picked out some good stuff (Macbeth, Hamlet, Crime and Punishment, plus one choose-your-own-and-do-a-report, which for me was Catch-22). But junior year, I swear my teacher picked out books where the writer thought actually, you know, having a plot would get in the way of all the symbolism they wanted to throw in (or that academic types would see in it whether it was there or not; I’ll bet at least half of the symbolism we discussed in class was never intended). Scarlet Letter was the only book that year I didn’t absolutely hate, and that was because I didn’t get the feeling my teacher was talking out of her ass about the symbolism. Sophomore year was a little better, with the exception of one book (now mercifully forgotten) that quite literally put me to sleep. At 7 pm.
I have nothing against reading (you should see the library I have built up), and some of the “classics” are quite good, but others are of value only to academics who want to overanalyze every last word and suck all the joy out of reading. And I got stuck with at least one teacher who always picked the latter.
Bradley-Terry ratings for college football and basketball
Because there aren't enough computer rankings already.
so did Garcia...
kill and skin his own pig for the football?
da man’s gotta live unbeholding to anyone else yahno…
There are two novels...
that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.
HT: Kung Fu Monkey – http://kfmonkey.blogspot.com/2009/03/ephemera-2009-7.html
by bearcraig on Nov 11, 2010 1:30 PM EST reply actions 8 recs
The sad thing is
I was assuming the childish fantasy part was about Atlas Shrugged before I read the punchline.
"I’ll tell you one thing: The grass at Tiger Stadium tastes best."
by LesMilesEatsGrass on Nov 11, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Reading Lord of the Rings when you're fourteen makes you turn out normal.
Just like me.
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 11, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
one of us...one of us...one of us...
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
Gooble-gobble, gooble-gobble, we accept you, one of us...
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
You were definitely a "Terrain Tier" nerd weren't you
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
I read all of Tolkien's works at 14, but have yet to be described as normal
in my lifetime. So there must be exceptions.
by gamedaytribe on Nov 11, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Likewise. And damn proud of it.
Bradley-Terry ratings for college football and basketball
Because there aren't enough computer rankings already.
I read it at 11
Didn’t entirely understand it. Read it again at 14, and I was hooked on fantasy.
Only the original Star Wars trilogy compares.
It's funny and quite complicated at the same time
I watched men die on the flight deck of an aircraft carrier while we were just practicing for war. But I can tell you straight-faced that most of what I know to be true about honor and courage and devotion to duty, I learned first from J.R.R Tolkeins books.
Hey Oliver Luck, I absolutely hate that WVU is "the winningest college football team to have never won a National Championship". You think you could do something about that?
by MtnEer_in_SC on Nov 11, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I under stand where you’re coming from
Reading Louis L’Amore shaped my perspective of what a man should be and how they should act. It makes me feel seriously warped sometimes, like I’m out of place.
I drank what? - Socrates
by Steve from Umatilla on Nov 11, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
Louis L'Amore!
My Grandpa loved his books. He had dozens. He loaned them to me whenever he finished reading one, or he found out I hadn’t read one.
When he passed on, I inherited all of them. I’m slowly going through the collection and find out which ones he didn’t have. I feel like I owe it to him to complete the collection. It’s the least I could do for a man that had such a profound impact on my life.
A Notre Dame Grad, born and raised in Wisconsin... life put me in the express lane to alcoholism.
L'Amour*.... d'oh
A Notre Dame Grad, born and raised in Wisconsin... life put me in the express lane to alcoholism.
You're not.
I’ve read Louis L’Amour too. It shaped my perspective of what American men used to be like. :)
by gamedaytribe on Nov 11, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
I just realized I've been wearing this shirt all day as we've been talking about this:
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
"Didn't you read Lord of the Rings in high school?"
“No, I had sex in high school.”
by lhb98 on Nov 11, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd for BBT reference
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
has a similar effect, but only if you read it when you’re a bit older.
I was 19, and that was it for my “normalcy.”
Repeat after me:
I am
sofa king
wee todd ed
-- Aqua Teen Hunger Force
by An 'eer with a beer on Nov 11, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
FAIL!
You don’t know Ayn Rand at all! Where’s the part where hundreds die when a section of the stadium collapses and we learn that all those who died deserved it because they were weak collectivist looters?
We want to build a university our football team can be proud of. -- Dr. George Lynn Cross
...but the stadium was build by free, productive men...
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
The original stadium was
But rather than allow his vision to be compromised by weak bureaucrats, the builder razed it.
We want to build a university our football team can be proud of. -- Dr. George Lynn Cross
Facts
Fact: 86% of moneyed cougars in the Carolinas are waiting for Garcia to be finished with "this football thing." The other 14% have "meetings" scheduled with him next week.
Bonus Fact: The license plate of the SG Bangbus reads: "Orson"
I haven't a particle of confidence in a man who has no redeeming petty vices whatsoever
-Mark Twain
Best Lit analogy from undergrad:
Ayn Rand : Literature :: Crack : Pharmaceuticals
Reading this was almost painful...
but I kept on reading it until the end. Then I went back and read it one more time just to savor the experience.
Rand would say the the pain was a corollary of the growth I was experiencing. Now I think I need a beer. And a cigarette. Yes definitely a cigarette, even though I quit them back in May.
Hey Oliver Luck, I absolutely hate that WVU is "the winningest college football team to have never won a National Championship". You think you could do something about that?
Can I bum one?
I’d like to pass all the costs of my valueless choices on to the rest of you.
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 11, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Fine, fine work, Fearless Leader.
But if you fucking try this with Neil Gaiman, you get a visit from Mr. Croup and Mr. Vandemar. Do I make myself clear?
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
i'm in for a c-note or 2
If it’s Michigan and Allan Gins-GERG.
by blanx73 on Nov 11, 2010 2:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
"A Wolverine Howls"
Yeah, I could probably put some cash behind that.
Et Universitatis Ohioensis delenda est!
Obstacles obliterated,
nuisances eradicated, bothersome limbs removed and tutelary dentistry undertaken.
I'm too angry to sing.
by Ancient Chinese Secret on Nov 11, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
PASSIVE VOICE!! AAAARRRGH!
I like Gaiman though
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Obfuscation eschewed
Repeat after me:
I am
sofa king
wee todd ed
-- Aqua Teen Hunger Force
by An 'eer with a beer on Nov 11, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
So who gets the role of the Rain God that doesn't know he controls the weather?
/American Gods’d
Who is the former Angel turned Demon trying to prevent the displaced Son of Satan from inadvertently destroying the world with imagination
/Good Omens’d
A Notre Dame Grad, born and raised in Wisconsin... life put me in the express lane to alcoholism.
Pratchetting would be a real challenge
Ole Miss football seems the most likely target. Or Notre Dame
"Voetbal is pas totaal als je wint"- Coach Adun
"The greatest sin is to spurn the gift"- Coach Alistair
Pratchett
…was made for LSU.
“Is it a one…in a million chance?”
by kalon on Nov 11, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So DAMN right, this. That's exactly what I was thinking, when I was reading
the write-ups the day after the first crazy LSU game.
by gamedaytribe on Nov 11, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
Keanu?
? or Gary Busey
I haven't a particle of confidence in a man who has no redeeming petty vices whatsoever
-Mark Twain
by Gamecock2002 on Nov 11, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Johnny Depp is on record as wanting to play Crowley in the movie version of Good Omens
that Terry Gilliam has been shopping for a couple decades now. I always pictured a Die Hard era Alan Rickman when I read the book.
A Notre Dame Grad, born and raised in Wisconsin... life put me in the express lane to alcoholism.
speaking of Alan Rickman-
Although I prefer black over the nickel finish, I liked the P7 he used in Die Hard.
I haven't a particle of confidence in a man who has no redeeming petty vices whatsoever
-Mark Twain
by Gamecock2002 on Nov 11, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
There was a Rain God like that in one of the Hitchhiker's Guide books too.
Bradley-Terry ratings for college football and basketball
Because there aren't enough computer rankings already.
He won't read Gaiman or Pratchett
I’ve TRIED. It’s really the only thing that makes me question our suitability for each other.
The artist formerly known as TCOAN
by Lady Commenter on Nov 11, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Not even Coraline or Stardust! Think of the children!
Is it because of the Sandman Comics
It’s the comics, isn’t it?
A Notre Dame Grad, born and raised in Wisconsin... life put me in the express lane to alcoholism.
Amazingly, the Stardust movie was better than the book.
Not that the book was bad, but Robert de Niro stole the fucking show in the movie.
Bradley-Terry ratings for college football and basketball
Because there aren't enough computer rankings already.
Hell, at least you both read.
I feel like I’m cheating on Mrs. Rev when I talk books with people. She’s severely dyslexic and doesn’t have the time/patience for audiobooks. Then again, sometimes it’s nice to have things that are all your own…
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
Opposite in my house. I used to read constantly but working on a screen all day in a job that requires being constantly interrupted has shot my attention span.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
Word, brother,
and add in my advancing senility, I find myself reading serious literature less and less every year. My wife, on the other hand, is getting her childhood ADD under control and reading much more.
On the third hand, you just been Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle’d.
Hey Oliver Luck, I absolutely hate that WVU is "the winningest college football team to have never won a National Championship". You think you could do something about that?
by MtnEer_in_SC on Nov 11, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
So pissed
That I had meetings all morning and only now saw this. Excelsior!
by blanx73 on Nov 11, 2010 2:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions
This is the nerdiest, wordiest hive of football scum and villainy anywhere
You’ll make me happy.
We aim to please, good sir.
"I’ll tell you one thing: The grass at Tiger Stadium tastes best."
by LesMilesEatsGrass on Nov 11, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
If the SEC were a Literature class [subtitles in brackets]
SEC West
Alabama – The Sabanic Verses – Rushdie
Arkansas – Mallett and Super Mallett – Shaw
Auburn – All Quiet on the Western Front [LalalalaIcanthearyouLaLaLa] – Remarque
LSU – One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest – Kesey
Ole Miss – As I lay Losing – Faulkner (alternate – Ilosam, Ilosam! bythe same author)
MSU – To Have [Cam] and Have Not – Hemingway
SEC East
Florida – The Talented Mr. Brantley – Highsmith
Georgia – The Opponent Always Scores Twice – Cain
Kentucky – The Call of the Wildcat – London
SC – Garcia Shrugged – Ayn Rand
Tennessee – Son of Mourning Coach – Connell
Vandy – Stranger in a Strange Land – [subtitle – Bobby Johnson at Vanderbilt] – Heinlien
by sullivan013 on Nov 11, 2010 3:19 PM EST reply actions 9 recs
So very rec'd
Although I would have had Ole Miss be A Confederacy of Dunces by John Kennedy Toole
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
by Dogrel on Nov 11, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks to a change in administration, Ole Miss is now
A Confederacy Sloth of Dunces
"They've just discovered a new use for sheep over there at Clemson... wool." - Lewis Grizzard
by GwinnettGamecock on Nov 11, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Thank you for the rec in green
I just have to add that my first thought after choosing the book for Auburn was Pat Dye as Kat and Bobby Louder as Himmiltosse.
While I’m thinking of it – All the best to my brothers (and sisters) in arms, past and especially present on this Veteran’s Day. Godspeed you all home safe.
Sullivan013
Maj, US Army Retired
And the best to you, my brother
Hey Oliver Luck, I absolutely hate that WVU is "the winningest college football team to have never won a National Championship". You think you could do something about that?
by MtnEer_in_SC on Nov 11, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
Since it is the South,
I would’ve figured some Flannery O’Connor was in order somewhere. Perhaps Wise Blood (of Orphans and Unicorns) for Bama?
"...when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
— Martin Luther
Movies....
Alabama – Mein Kampf
Arkansas – On the Waterfront
Auburn – The Making of the Atomic Bomb
LSU – A Beautiful Mind
Ole Miss – As I Lay Dying
MSU – Alls quiet on the western front
FLA – The unbearable lightness of being
Georgia – Dances with wolves
Kentucky – The wedding singer
SC – The Great Escape
TN – Das Boot
Vandy – Groks this…see previous post
by Duck Notre Fame on Nov 12, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks to a chance in administration, Ole Miss is now
A Confederacy Sloth of Dunces
"They've just discovered a new use for sheep over there at Clemson... wool." - Lewis Grizzard
by GwinnettGamecock on Nov 11, 2010 3:26 PM EST reply actions
MOAR DICK JOKES PLZ
You sold me...queer giraffes.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Nov 11, 2010 4:21 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
It's the juxtaposition of a post like this + the entire thread preceding it
that makes this site so good.
This stuff'll make you a...sexual tyrannosaurus. Just like me.
Here's a dick for you
…and he became a joke-does that count?
"My mistress is pooped, the reds have Oklahoma, and I'm going to bed."
-Hodge Podge, Bloom County
"In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. "
"In practice, there is."-Yogi Berra
Kinda reminds me of Success Kid
Although with over a thousand comments in the Live Game thread, this will never be seen. LOST IN TEH INTERWEBZ
You sold me...queer giraffes.
by Bourbon_Meyer on Nov 11, 2010 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
Ayn Rand's collected lectures
are the only bit of Rand i read besides Atlas Shrugged. Woman appears to have spoken better than she wrote. Actually was worth it to read her answers to questions, in my mind really started to dovetail with Dostoyevsky’s “consiousness” ideal (via Underground Man). Bitterness!!!!
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