CURIOUS INDEX, 1/27/2010

The prospect of not being able to watch Tebow play foobaw ever again is really getting to all the Gator fans, no?

Not to take away from Grahams talent, but wingspan IS a vailid concern. Especially when moving up to the NFL where O-lineman are 6’6" bear beasts of unbeilievable upper body strength. It makes a big difference for a D-lineman to create seperation against the run. It also helps to have long arms in pass rush so you can win the pseudo martial arts slap war to the QB.

I am not saying it is the determining factor, but it is a physical limitation. Since NFL scouts are looking for a “the prototype” NFL body I am not suprised by the critique. However, I agree that NFL personel tend to put seamingly too much weight on the physical and not enough on talent.

Best line this month:

“showed too much exuberance when his trainer paraded him around the ring, and defecated on the ramp prior to competition due to nerves and excitement.”

Thank you, Senor Swindle

I would take credit for predicting that Tebow’s release would hurt him if it wasn’t so obvious to everyone but Peter King and like-minded Tebow sycophants.

Also, can anyone prove that Tebow is not, in fact, a rapist pedophile? Didn’t think so.

ohiodawg: I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m not looking forward to Tebow in the NFL at all. Whether a success or total bust, the pro sports media is going to be absolutely mind numbing about him. If you think it was bad before, then soon you will know fear.

Am I the only one slightly creeped out by the “slave-auction-ness” of these NFL events every year?

Well I can’t say I watch much of the coverage, but I always thought Uncle Verne talking about a player’s strong hips was much worse than pro camp stuff.

zzgator – why suh, whatever would make you think a thing like that? /sips mint julep, fans self with straw skimmer/

if the chains shackling the players down weren’t made of hundred dollar bills then I might agree

Oh, I realize they’re at least hopin’ to get PAID, just odd to see people treated as purely physical specimens…now they know how beauty contestants (at least in Trump produced pageants) and Rockettes feel!

A slight correction… the VT / Boise game will be at FedEx field in (okay near) DC on Labor Day. Hopefully the all-permeating aura of Redskins awfulness will not infect the play on the field.

Tim Tebow could be a serial killer on par with Jon Wayne Gacy, but note his slow deliberate stabbing motion. THAT’S what’s going to keep him from being a hit at that level.

Poor build. Very skinny and narrow. Ended the ‘99 season weighing 195 pounds and still looks like a rail at 211. Looks a little frail and lacks great physical stature and strength. Can get pushed down more easily than you’d like. Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush. Lacks a really strong arm. Can’t drive the ball down the field and does not throw a really tight spiral. System-type player who can get exposed if he must ad-lib and do things on his own.

Summary: Is not what you’re looking for in terms of physical stature, strength, arm strength and mobility, but he has the intangibles and production and showed great Griese-like improvement as a senior. Could make it in the right system but will not be for everyone.

ANSWER: TOM BRADY

Answer: Weak in the fetlocks

Question: How is Brandon Graham like the first girl I ever had sex with?

That Virginia Tech vs. Boise State game is going to be at FedEx Field in beautiful Raljon, err Landover, Md. Dan Snyder is buying up college football games because he is broke (unofficially). Indiana sold a home game vs. Penn State to the Redskins. Those of us Nittany Lions in greater D.C. are um, not heartbroken.

So I take it Joy Behar thinks that the rapist-pedophile may be only one of the many possible scenarios in life, perhaps another one would find Ashton Kutcher, err, Tim Tebow, in prison sucking off Schillinger from OZ?

Dear College Football World of the Internets and Especially Fellow ND Fans,

Never, ever, ever forget that the luminaries on NDNation desperately wanted to hire Jon “Derp” Gruden as the next head American tackle football coach of the Irish. Every time you hear him comment on a FOOTBALL GUY’S plethora of FOOTBALL SKILLS and his PASSION for the GAME of FOOTBALL, remember that. They really, seriously wanted to hire this man. Never forget that.

Now I will go make sacrificial offerings to my framed picture of Brian Kelly in his electric green tie.

Love,
ACS

Gruden can’t help it. He’s pumped about football. Even more than Pete Carroll.

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As a Northwestern fan and speaking for the other 9 teams of the Big Teneleven, we all sincerely hope that Zook never, ever, ever leaves

Um Orson, pot shots at your favorite quarterback aside,

Pedophilia = Statutory Rape by definition, and often is rape, period.

Some people’s lives are going to be filled with bitter disappointment every day that Tebow DOESN’T flip a car doing 110, killing the 4 prostitutes in the backseat, while blowing a 0.23 and testing positive for crystal meth and regular meth at the same time.

I guess they’ll just have to settle for making parking violations sound like 2-degree felonies. “Did you hear the news? St. TebowJesus Double-parked!!! I always knew it about that guy!!”

(Getting to the point where I’m almost as sick of the hate as I was of the lovefest)

Did anyone watch the Sports Science show on reaction times?

They had Rothesburger and some NFL D-lineman. Rothlesberger took like 1.5 seconds to execute a 3 point drop and pass, and the NFL D-lineman took 1.2 seconds to get there on the initial setup.

That is why Tebow’s release is a problem. That extra 1/2 of a second he takes is the difference between a sack/fumble anda completed pass.

zzgator, I had also thought of this similarity, but wasn’t sure it wasn’t out of bounds. glad to see it isnt.

Indeed.

If we must be anal, let’s go all the way – Blacksburg is much further than 90 mi. from DC – Gmaps puts it at 4.5 hours.

If Tebow had been a rapist pedophile, he’d still have commercial opportunities. QED…….
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1. - hundreds of cocktails to you sir!

1. - forest…trees….etc., etc.

@4 Biggus Rickus—He’s still a virgin, so he can’t possibly be a rapist pedophile. Yet.

Salsa IS crazy.

From the Strawman department -

Where are all Tebow sychophants that apparently think his release is a non-issue and that he is immediately ready to play in the next league? If you are piling on to discredit the lunatic fringe, fine, feel good about your football IQ.

The rational Tebow supporters (yes there are some) think he has the raw talent to one day, and not next year, become a QB at the next level. Will it happen – maybe, maybe not, but the chances that anyone’s current analysis will ultimately prove to have accurately identified the reasons behind the ultimate outcome are about the same as the experts who said he’d never make it in the SEC, then that he was only a glorified fullback who couldn’t throw, and blah blah blah.

After processing all of that, look in the mirror and ask yourself why you give a rat’s ass about the NFL in any event.

i love this time of year, when i get to hear arguments about small hands and short arms.

the bottom line is this: brandon graham doesn’t need long arms to reach into your chest and rip out your heart.

FedEx Field is a bit closer than 90 miles from DC, but I defy you to get there in fewer than 90 minutes on game days — even if you live in Landover.

As for the draft, to quote Chris Spielman, “Everyone wanted me to run the forty, but nobody ever asked me how hard I hit.”

Silly draft scouts. Brandon Graham’s arms OFF the field are 30.5 inches. On the field, they’re more like 63 inches, the extra length coming from the ripped off arms of the LT.

Where are all Tebow sychophants that apparently think his release is a non-issue and that he is immediately ready to play in the next league?

Crickets…..

You are correct. Everyone is in such a rush to pat themselves on the back and say I told you so about Pro Tebow before he’s even played a down. Many of those same people were probably fawning over the physical specimen and rocket arm that is Jamarcus Russell.

Will he have to change his throwing motion? Yes. Will he have to learn to be under center? Without question. I think he has the propensity to learn. While he’s doing that, he can certainly hit a few DB’s and LB’s as a single wing red zone QB. When you look at the crap at QB that has started for a lot of teams around the NFL the past ten years, he at least deserves a chance.

Ltrain,

Are you seriously saying you never heard or read anyone but, like, message board doofi say that Tebow would totally make it at the next level? The fact that it was an obvious flaw that nearly everyone recognized was referenced in my comment. So, yes, I’m in the 30th percentile of football IQ. Yay, me.

And speaking of straw men, I never called him a glorified fullback. Does that put me into the 50th percentile?

I looked in the mirror, and I was going to ask myself why I care about the NFL, but I was distracted by my own beauty. After tearing my eyes away I asked myself, “Self, why do you give a rat’s ass about the NFL?” I replied aloud, “Because it is football and football is fucking awesome.”

Betting against Tebow?

Risk factor: like making short person jokes at Kim Jung Il’s birthday party. I wouldn’t do it.

Seems I read that in the military a “short arm inspection” was performed prior to sailors returning to the US mainland after a cruise to ensure their “short arms” did not contract any contagious ill effects from receiving the comfort of the female denizens of foreign ports.

With that in mind, O., your selection of “alternative realities” has multiplied dramatically…

@19 Technically, pedophilia means you LIKE teh kiddle diddles, not that you actually do anything about it. You’re a rapist (statutory or otherwise) if you act on that impulse. You can be a chaste pedophile and never break the law, as any Catholic priest could tell you, amirite?

Biggus -

As to your first comment, I can honestly say the only legitimate “he’s ready to go at the NFL level” commentary I’ve seen is some version of comment #35, that is, “he doesn’t really seem ready, but I wouldn’t bet against him.” My interpretation is that this commentary seems to imply either (a) he has the work ethic and will power to correct the flaws in a short amount of time, or (b) he will be quarterbacking in some sort of as yet to be determined hybrid role where the flaws won’t matter. Either scenario seems a bit too optimistic to me, but there’s a whole lot of road between too optimistic and undeniable FAIL.

As for the rest of your comment, no qualms.

Long arms mean a lot in the NFL. Ask Vernon Gholston how they have helped him scratch his ass on the Jets sideline … man this hurts to say as an Ohio State fan.

Ltrain,

Maybe living in Jacksonville I just heard it more. Granted, some of it was on talk radio, which is only a stone’s throw from message board lunacy. That said, I don’t think he will definitely fail, just that his obvious flaws that some people denied will be a problem. I consider it unlikely he will ever be anything more than a QB of middling ability at the pro level, but seeing as I thought Rivers would be a flop my opinion should be taken as non-gospel.

Since Tebow’s eligibility at UF is kaput, I couldn’t care less about him.

He’s gone. Yay!