MIKE LEACH GOES FULL ROCHESTER

I guess Alberto Gonzalez has taken some time from his PoliSci courses to do some consulting for Leach.

So does this make Texas Tech vs “Storm The Dorm” Sparty the Fulmer Cup Bowl?

They are doing Leach a favor by firing him since it will get him out of
Buttock, Texas

yarr… the closet’s too good for the little sissy… unless it has sharks in it

Craig James’ kid was involved? the plot thickens.

Craig, Pony Boy, James, broadcaster and father of Kid James,
dropped a dime on the ’Ol Pirate.

Had it been me, I would have handled this like a MAN and simply gone over to see Leach and
made Leach walk the plank-Mangino style.

In seriousness, I really hope Craig James acted like a man and went to see Coach Leach about his son’s accusations. More has been made out of less by a 19 year old prima donna who thinks he isn’t getting enough playing time – how many times do you think, “do you know who my dad is” probably came out of this kid’s mouth during a practice?

I’m still trying to figure out – even from the “accounts” of the situations, where the harm is in any of what happened. It’s not like he took the kid with the concussion, moved him to fullback and made him run scout team without a helmet… he put him in a cool, dark room.

Isn’t Craig James one half of the reason (with Eric Dickerson being the other half) that SMU got the death penalty?

Was there an incredibly slow dipping process into Sea Bass (with lazer beams) infested waters?

First Mangino, now Leach. No wonder Boom Boom Muschamp left Auburn for Texas. The Big 12 was the only place that made him look tame by comparison.

Bizarre.

Sullivan013

Congrats to Dollar Bill Doug on his team wining over the Texas Agricultural and Mechanical College. Hard fought battle all around. Way to defeat those Farmers.

To Bama fans: January 7 can’t come fast enough. Bring it Pachyderms.

Come, come, Mr. Leach! You must understand that Adam James is of aristocratic background! It’s not like you and Young Master Adam haven’t been pissing in each other’s direction all year! If the boy demands more “time” and show up at practice but refuses to participate, then so be it. Now you go and put the concussioned fellow in a dark closet because the light gave him headaches! My God sir! You are terrible!
Lord Craig of Ponyland will have your head sir!

Hey Orson, the CBS affiliate in Orlando says that Urban had a heart attack midseason. For what it’s worth, it’s the same reporter who had a source at UF that said Tebow would play at LSU.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/12/urban-meyer-wkmg-stands-by-report-that-urban-meyer-suffered-midseason-heart-attack.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%28TV+Guy%29

What we’ve got here is…failure to communicate…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvwqK2gn3S0

“Isn’t Craig James one half of the reason (with Eric Dickerson being the other half) that SMU got the death penalty?”

No, not even close. It was the boosters, including a former governor, who set up slush funds for the athletic program while still on probation who sunk the program.

@12

Maybe the kid just had too much rabbit in his blood.

1. 9

“Bring it Pachyderms” ???

A team Texas beat by 10 gets beat by UGA by 24;
UGA loses by 24 to UF
UF loses to Bama by 19.

Transitive relations are worthless but your taunt is more puzzling…

Bevo… its what for dinner… January 7, 2010.

Craig James has always been a whiny bitch. No surprise that his spawn has the same tendencies.

Mister Leach may indeed be detestable but if you willingly get on the Pirate ship, don’t be surprised if the Captain waves his hook in your face.

SO I PULL OUT MA’ GUN!

Insofar as Craig James helped SMU win a lot of games and attract negative attention to the school, then he was part of the problem. Maybe he took money, maybe not, that was never released. This is a weird story all around and something smells funny. Leach is a crazy person, but it sounds like one of those stories that can be whatever you want it to be. Either they were trying to do a nice thing and help him lay down in a nice dark room, or they were…after the Dr. cleared him, or he is taking shots at a poor kid with a brain bruise, to iffy to say.

It surprises me that the same guys who give Cap’n Leach and Schnelly and Stevie so much love would jump ship and write a vagina themed soap opera about Leach’s treatment of a son of a wide vag.

  Yes, you’re right, there’s nothing more horrible than treating a football player like trash. This is all new and never happened to anyone who played tackle football in their entire life. The son of a SMU legend was locked in a room!!!. For God’s sake, fire the bastard that allowed this tragedy to occur!.

Now, mind you, Mike Leach may have helped hundreds of young men get a college education. But what do we care? We are smart and ironic. We live in Atlanta, so we are “southern”.

Best of luck with all that. In the South we teardown our own, b/c they always disappoint. It is but a matter of time b/f we come looking for EDSBS. Then you will feel the full brunt of our pork samiches w/ spicy mustard & pickle. In the meantime, can you please stop moralizing, and write about college football? I know the lesson. I am southern and white and therefore racist and ignorant. AND I DRIVE A DODGE STRATUS.
 Perhaps once, you could stop pretending to be some arbiter of the South, and actually speak for the South it appears you realize you are from. (I am not from the curve of the FLA handle, but Tally, which is close enough.

Yeah,Leach locked a popular guy in a small room. I had gym with Gene Cox. (Leon High HC for eons). He terrified me. My dad played for Leon b/f the Cox era. He is old now, but I can only smile to think about what he would say if came home from football practice and complained of being locked in a room. “Hell son, I was third string. You’re lucky they didn’t beat you to death!”.

If Mike Leach locked a football player in a small dark room for hours what he did is not only unethical but it’s downright criminal.

On the other hand, this story makes about as much sense as that chick with the mirror image B carved on her face last year.

I don’t know when this was supposed to happen, but how the hell does Mike Leach order a football player into a closet and then seal him in there without a large number of the relatively sane people around him raise a massive stink with everyone around?

I’ll be curious to see the result, but I get the feeling that Leach’s eccentric past coupled with ESPN’s habit of circling the wagon is going to lead to the Pirate Captain being fired regardless of whether these allegations are true or not.

I’m getting pretty tired of the helicopter parents trying to dictate what happens with their kid’s major college football team. To wit:

1. The parents need to understand that their kid is probably not going pro. Getting a free college education is the real bigthing here, in a world where that is becoming the entry fee to really get somewhere. If they’re good enough to play in the NFL, then that’s gravy.

2. This is not some overwhelmed volunteer dad coaching a bunch of 10-year-olds. These coaches get paid a hell of a lot of money and work 365 days a year to figure out how to win these games. That includes figuring out who should be on the field and who should not.

3. What are you really going to accomplish with a palace coup? The next coach will probably figure out the same thing that the coach you just had removed had figured out. Namely that your kid isn’t good enough to be on the field. Ask Mitch Mustain how things worked out for him at Arkansas. The only one who came out ahead in that affair was Houston Nutt.

Bill @19:

Shouldn’t you be off gearing up for the Gator Bowl?

Craig James has an offspring smart enough to go to college?

Bill, we’re all sorry you had a bad childhood. Locking a concussed kid in a closet is bullshit, and whether or not worse things happened to you once upon a time in the south is irrelevant and missing the point entirely.

If you look at the mangino situation, and now this, what you should take away from it is the expectation of there being an implicit line of trust that coaches just aren’t supposed to cross with their players. Period.

College football fans, along with school administrations and generally reasonable people everywhere tend to expect a measured and fair response from coaches when it comes to disciplinary actions. Coaches are supposed to set guidelines and expectations for the players, no question. They are not supposed enforce the rules in a vindictive or arbitrary manner.

When you physically threaten your players or hold them in a closet for three hours it constitutes an abuse of authority and the responsibility that comes with being in that position of power. Sure, it was only a closet, and even the authors of the Geneva convention would tell James to stop being such a pussy, but when you make 2 million a year and work in high profile job like Mike Leach you should already know better. If I were a tech alum I would demand better too.

I just can’t figure out Leach. If you want to punish the kid, wait until he can’t play the concussion card anymore and make him run wind sprints like a normal person. Using the ’i’m eccentric’ defense will take him about as far as a pirate ship full of cannonball holes.

@23 It’s Texas Tech, so technically, no.

Woody Hayes is not impressed.

I’m firmly on the side of he should have known better about putting the kid in the room, even if it was for his own protection. Additionally, if he knew this kid was a prima-donna, it would have made sense to have a trainer go with Leach and then explain it to the guy that this was for his benefit. It would probably have been easier to just have the training staff put him in there and not be present.

I can understand being upset about playing time. Yet, if this is just a cover for a disgruntled player who was their 5th best wideout, it’s bullshit, pure and simple.

However, if I’m Jeremy Foley, I’d call leach, offer him the OC slot and opportunity to beat up on as many concussed kids as he wants. I mean, the legal team for UF could totally handle that shitstorm well before it ever got to the press. And even if it did, the “I’m eccentric” defense might work in Gainesville.

So the kid had a concussion and got to sit in a cool dark shed for the length of the practice. I don’t see the big deal.

@19

Friend, you need some serious clues on adult life if you think this is acceptable behavior by a coach to any player for any reason. The fact that your high school coach scared you is not a measure by which you should judge the world.

Discipline has its place, but endangerment (playing a player with a concussion) is a criminal act. So is involuntary restraint.

No, I never was involved in a major collegiate sport and only played HS football/basketball/swimming. But I was in the Army for 22 years and spent time as both a candidate and a TAC officer at Officer Candidate School (when the dropout rate was 50%), and am well aware of the application of a ‘stressful training environment’ for a given purpose.

If the reports are true, Leach crossed a line, and both he and the administration that suspended him well know it. The only reason he was suspended rather than fired is to give the lawyers on both sides to review his contract. He’s history, probably for good in Div 1A ball.

Sullivan013

Sullivan,

What danger was James in while sitting in a dark, air conditioned room during practice while suffering from the affects of a concussion. And then, God forbid, James be made to stay in a press box with a stationary bike. OH THE HUMANITY!!! Even the doctor said no harm was done to James and that it probably did him some good..

Yes it is odd the way Leach went about this but to go as far as to say he was endangering his players is a little much. The only thing that got hurt was this kid’s ego.

so the kid has an alleged concussion. he shows up to practice and leach has him walk laps around the field for the entirety of practice. this happens several times. no one has a problem with this.

one day the kid shows up wearing sunglasses. he says that he’s sensitive to light. you know, because of the concussion. leach tells him that instead of doing laps, he should go stand in the equipment shed (where it’s dark) for the entirety of practice. now he’s a horrible person.

geez.

Your concussion is a result of your weakness and if there is anything that the Detestable Mr. Leach finds loathsome it is weakness! Go and sit in a closet, sir.

Sullivan013,

Did you read the allegations? He did the opposite of playing the player. He forced the palyer to rest. Everyone would agree that this was a fireable offense if he had forced the guy into tackling drills with a concussion. In reality, he sat him in a dark place (which is exactly what a doctor would suggest). I really doubt that the “guard” was going to use force to keep him in there. He was probably there to suggest that the player do as told or be kicked off the team. I see nothing wrong with that.

Either you refused to read the allegations and passed judgement anyway or you are just a pansy and support the pansyfication of young men. Which is it?

Leach probably should have known the shitstorm was coming, so he should have done something less symbolic, but I am with Bill. If everything that coaches said and did to players was put out in the press, no coach would have a job. It is a rough sport and the coaching of it is about tearing down, breaking bad habits and then building up. And, guess what, so is life……..

waits for R. Kelly parody

Again folks – I haven’t read anywhere that Coach Leach or any other member of the coaching staff endangered this kid’s health in any manner. In fact, they held him out of any contact or any situation that may have exacerbated the injury (for all you Bama fans, that means – make it worse).

There either has to be more to this story (waterboarding, piping in that Susan Boyle singing, making him read Atlas Shrugged, etc.) or this James kid is a piece of work.

And to “halfback pass” and “sullivan013”, I quote the great Dan Hawkins – “This is division 1 football, brother!”

I don’t think the Somali Navy has a problem with helicopter parents