CURIOUS INDEX, 12/10/09
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I'M SORRY MA'AM I'D LOVE TO INTERRUPT YOU TO TALK ABOUT RON PRINCE. This whole "Edsall and Notre Dame are mutually interested" thing is merely a smokescreen for the inevitable takeover of America's young coaching dynamo, the Joseph Stalin of coaching, the Schooly D of the ACC's Special Teams coaches, the most feared offensive coordinator ever named Ron who ever coached for Al Groh....Ron Prince. Look at those men work together like a team of well-trained seals. Like, seals with whiskers who will do anything for herring. THAT COULD BE YOU NOTRE DAME. THINK ABOUT IT. Clay Travis goes mad for a moment. Rather than administering a cursory and insubstantial fisking to the New York Times' Tennessee piece from yesterday, Clay and other Tennessee fans should ignore the NCAA investigation (likely to turn up little, like most NCAA investigations) and focus on the recruiting strategies at work here. Lane Kiffin has a coaching circle assembled in Knoxville of immense talent and experience, an administration willing to shit gold bricks day and night to fund the team, top-flight facilities, and everything he needs to succeed in terms of an established reputation as a coast-to-coast recruiter. Do you need to recast yourself as the doofus Neuheisel in order to get things done? Or, as it were, the Doof-heisel? Do you want to be the guy texting a kid to look out the window as you drive by his house waving like some kind of sexually confused Boy Scout leader? Leave any nonexistent NCAA implications out of it: aggressive recruiting is fine, but this borders on public stuntwork. It's a matter of bullshit posturing over substance, something probably attributable to Kiffin's age and inexperience. It is precisely the same inanity Rick Neuheisel was fond of at Colorado and Washington, and it hurt his reputation and effectiveness as a head coach in the long run. DURR UR JUST SKARRED. Not of Lane Kiffin sending the Aryan Youth's Pep Wing on the road to woo recruits blinded by a little bit of peroxide and winking cleavage, no. But he's a good enough coach, recruiter, and planner with enough support behind him that all of this bullshit is just that: total and complete bullshit. It's petty and ridiculous. (Keep trash talking, though: that is an esteemed art absent for too long from the SEC. When the Pac-10 is outdoing you in that department, it is time to step up the effort.) Answer: nothing. Question: what is Joe Barton or any other politician from Texas doing with their free time besides having illicit sex with their underlings and throwing tiny amounts of power around like sledgehammers for prime parking places and tickets to sporting events? Ahh, sociobiology. You never fail us when we look for the answers to monkeys and why they have problems. (Just read the Barnhart bit about Barton's insane House proposals, ponder the seeking and use of power by your fellow apes with nukes and cars, and rewind.) You can keep the electronics and jewelry for now. Charlie Strong, don't be so polite. Feel free to take some of the staff with you to Louisville. In fact, as much as this hurts us, please take Steve Addazio, our offensive coordinator. No, no, we insist! No, here--[drops Addazio in a sack into his arms]--please, we insist. I'm not taking him back. Nope. Arms behind our back here. Nope. Not looking, not looking at you... The last thing he cried over was a dropped tall boy of Schlitz. Paul Hornung says Tim Tebow shouldn't have cried on the field at the SEC Championship. AlcoLOLic! |
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I think Tebow should have waited until he got in the locker room to start crying. You’re a big boy Tebow, you don’t need to prove that you’re emontional. Do what I do and just swallow that anger and frustration and but it deep down inside the darkest parts of your soul until you physically go numb from the trama. Works for me.
by Kevin@LSU on Dec 10, 2009 10:40 AM EST reply actions
Do what I do and just swallow that anger and frustration and but it deep down inside the darkest parts of your soul until you physically go numb from the trama. Works for me.
In other words, do what we did after the ‘Bama and Ole Miss games, and family holiday gatherings? Or was that get blindingly, fall-down, blackout drunk? I can’t remember.
by DrBundy on Dec 10, 2009 10:43 AM EST reply actions
What Hornung doesn’t realize is that Tebow is just crying to increase his lady magnetism…. which has reached superconductor magnet proportions already
when he is done he will probably focus his powers on making ladies glom onto football….increasing his audience by 100%
by WarChiziken on Dec 10, 2009 10:46 AM EST reply actions
My family and friends know when I stare blankly at the TV like a zombie with a wry smile just to leave me be unless you have a beer for me.
by Kevin@LSU on Dec 10, 2009 10:47 AM EST reply actions
For the last week or so, I’ve been hearing rumors that a few SEC coaches turned UT in for paying a recruit out of North Gwinnett High School. Then a few days after, the NCAA lands on Knoxville to investigate their “hostesses.” I wonder if we’re only getting part of the story from the NCAA? Or the paying players thing is complete horseshit.
That is all.
by DoubleDawg05 on Dec 10, 2009 10:47 AM EST reply actions
At least the Tennessee story gave Tony Kornheiser an excuse to have Joe Biddle on his radio show to fire off some pretty decent one-liners.
by DevilGrad on Dec 10, 2009 10:47 AM EST reply actions
re: dying art of trash talk in SEC
Could the SEC chants at the end of games be to blame? Now that so many fans have hitched their wagons to conference superiority to erase their own teams’ failings, are they actually starting to subconsciously support old rivals? Could the “SEC above all” line of thinking be making it hard to hate SEC teams?
Just a few questions from a Big 10 grad, who obviously doesn’t have to deal with this conference pride phenomena.
by DanF on Dec 10, 2009 10:48 AM EST reply actions
Kevin@LSU
I agree but I guess when you gotta let loose you let loose.
Charlie to Louisville huh? Does this mean the whole Gators 2-deep goes pro and we see the implosion of an empire with first Mullen then Strong crippling Meyer?
If Florida wants the defensive equivalent of Steve Addazio they can just call Greg Robinson or Corwin Brown.
That’d be fun to watch!
by InTheBleachers on Dec 10, 2009 10:55 AM EST reply actions
So, ND needs a coach and a quarterback because the Emu left…are you thinking what I’m thinking? Willy Korn+ Ron Prince= ND wins forever at everything. EVERYTHING.
by K-Gun on Dec 10, 2009 10:55 AM EST reply actions
When Tebow starts fooling around with the ladies, something like this will happen.
@ 7
I think all conferences have some sort of camaraderie when it comes to bowl game. A SEC vs. Big 10 match-up will most like result in Big 10 fans rooting for their own conference. However, I think the SEC solidarity, while it was always there, really took off when OSU was basically crowned the National Champions in 2006 before getting ass-raped by Florida. After the, the SEC chant became more a joke than anything. Just to get under the skin of a certain northern contingency of fans, who are believed to have buttons that are easily pushed. Most Ohio State fans that I have encountered get hot like a pistol if you have any sort of negativity toward their team.
It’s also started a trend. Pac-10 fans have been known to chant Pac-10 when they beat a SEC team.
by Kevin@LSU on Dec 10, 2009 11:01 AM EST reply actions
Paul Hornung is right!
Paul Hornung didn’t cry when he won the Heisman in an eight-loss season or when he was banned from the NFL after betting on games or after he said black athletes were too dumb to meet Notre Dame admissions standards.
Jeez, Tebow, learn a little something from Paul Hornung.
by J on Dec 10, 2009 11:13 AM EST reply actions
If there’s no crying in baseball, then there’s no crying in football. No exceptions.
by HighLifeRebel on Dec 10, 2009 11:14 AM EST reply actions
@10: I dunno about that Big Ten mentality. I was at the Florida-Michigan Citrus Bowl (I refuse to call it the Capitol One Bowl after they sent my account into collections) when I noticed that the Michigan State mascot was in attendance (the Spartans had played in the Tangerine Bowl (I refuse to call it the Champs Sports Bowl since they sent my account to collections) a few days prior, and the mascot stuck around just to taunt the Wolverines.
Now THAT, my friends, is the kind of dedication to hate the SEC has been lacking of late.
by Jack Fact on Dec 10, 2009 11:24 AM EST reply actions
Crying is best saved for when you call in to EDSBS Live.
by Tim James on Dec 10, 2009 11:26 AM EST reply actions
We Pac-10 fans have always had conference camraderie because of the “east coast bias” perception, but most Pac-10 fans only root for nine of the conference teams since our natural rivalries set up so nicely. Having said that, go Huskers!
On a completely separate topic, Barnhart said the following in bullet point #1 of the linked article:
I don’t think the NCAA can punish a high school player who hasn’t signed with a college. In fact, I know it can’t.
Apparently Mr. College Football never heard the phrase “It’s good to be Chris Rainey” or the shitstorm that followed it. I felt like it was less of a waste of time to post this here rather than in the AJC forum, especially since the 1st comment over there called Barnhart a “looser.” Twice.
by Big Jon on Dec 10, 2009 11:26 AM EST reply actions
Kevin@LSU – as always an excellent answer.
If the SEC chant really is just to annoy Northerners, I will be very disappointed. And Annoyed.
by DanF on Dec 10, 2009 11:32 AM EST reply actions
I really hope Brian Kelly gets that Notre Dame job. The worst complaint I have about Randy Edsall is the logo he foisted on the football program looks like a crescent wrench. That shit is an abomination.
by Grib on Dec 10, 2009 11:34 AM EST reply actions
You may be able to design schemes, sir, but you are no Cayce Pollard.
by Grib on Dec 10, 2009 11:36 AM EST reply actions
hornung then went on to state that the “black athlete” wouldn’t have cried in that situation even though florida’s academic standards are too high for the “black athlete” to be admitted in the first place.
lets keep listening to this guy.
by ed on Dec 10, 2009 11:37 AM EST reply actions
Paul Hornung:
Tebow will stop crying in public when you stop dropping trau in public.
by rjsplow on Dec 10, 2009 11:38 AM EST reply actions
Just the thought of Ron Prince crushes what is left of my soul. Would Notre Dame tolerate recruiting classes of 5-7 players with the no Juco rule?
I bet Johnelle Smith would take the job. There’s a candidate…
by The Subway Domer on Dec 10, 2009 11:49 AM EST reply actions
I always had Paul Hornug figured as a Blatz drinker. Schlitz would have been too high class for him. Hamms too.
by yoyofutbawl on Dec 10, 2009 11:53 AM EST reply actions
Hornung is a flawed messenger whose message from the 50’s/60’s to the “Aughts” is to man up, quit that damned blubbering during football games, and oh yeah, mix me another pitcher of martinis while you’re at it.
But the hell of it is that the Golden Boy had a decent point.
by Farsider on Dec 10, 2009 12:17 PM EST reply actions
Kevin@LSU
What did you say about Ohio State!!!!?
by Chi Town Tress on Dec 10, 2009 12:38 PM EST reply actions
Hornung remains the only Heisman winner from a losing team, relegating Johnny Majors to 2nd place.
I believe this was when the anti-UT ESPN conspiracy was born.
by etsuVol on Dec 10, 2009 1:02 PM EST reply actions
Actually, that vote was very close until Hornung distinguished himself in the all-Scotch drink-off.
by DevilGrad on Dec 10, 2009 2:04 PM EST reply actions

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