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SABAN SUGGESTS OFFICIALS "MIGHT HAVE SOULS."

Despite calling in another request for a game extension from their local Buffalo Wild Wings (sadly, no longer serving Weck) and getting exactly what they wanted, SEC fans will continue to complain about the officiating because they can, and because now with the advent of DVR and these fine internets even the most innocuous holding call can be scrutinized.

You should know the story has reached some kind of point of deflation when Nick Saban is telling the refs to go to the lake for a weekend, which we kind of would like to see a.) because it proves a point, and b.) because the resulting anarchy would make a soccer riot seem cordial in comparison.

"I just really do believe this: If I was an official, and I was making what I make officiating, because I love the game and I love doing it, and I was getting crit­icized by the media, includ­ing our announcers on TV, like these guys get crit­icized, I'd step back and say, 'I think I'll go to the lake this weekend. You can have this.' That's what I'd do," Saban added.

If they did go to the lake they'd catch boots and call them fourteen pound largemouth bass, but that's just the kind of year they're having as a group. Officials around the nation will have another inexact and fallible day this coming Saturday because officiating is an art, not a science, and is practiced by frail, fallible humans who deserve your sympathy and understanding (after you've hit them in the skull with bottle from fifty feet away. Especially then.)

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We would then hear about the one that got away. But upon furthur review, it jumped out of the boat.

by Crabapple Buck on Nov 10, 2009 10:46 AM EST reply actions  

Lane Kiffin, Urban Meyer, Bobby Petrino and Les Miles have got a 100 lb bag of quick-crete, Sal from the Bronx and wheel barrow the officials can take to the late with them if they’re so inclined.

by Yeah BoYeeEe on Nov 10, 2009 10:51 AM EST reply actions  

Saban’s got it right on this one.

But, the more we all talk about calls/instant replay/refs etc., the happier the WWCthulhu is because the actual sport (which they can’t control) will ultimately become less important than all the hoo-haw surrounding it.

by ohiodawg on Nov 10, 2009 10:53 AM EST reply actions  

That’d be lake not late.

by Yeah BoYeeEe on Nov 10, 2009 10:56 AM EST reply actions  

Think LSUFreek is upset? That’s the 3rd item on this topic he’s made in as many days.

by TideDruid on Nov 10, 2009 10:56 AM EST reply actions  

Nick Saban does not have time for this shit

by haybeav on Nov 10, 2009 11:01 AM EST reply actions  

Is Saban surreptitiously telling the officials to “go jump in a lake?”

Well played, Dark Lord.

by the ex-croominator on Nov 10, 2009 11:01 AM EST reply actions  

not as fun when it happens to you, huh?

@2 you could probably include Richt in there as well.

by nosleevesdawg on Nov 10, 2009 11:05 AM EST reply actions  

Nope, not as fun when it happens to you. But I do value the human element, would rather have humans officiating than Crazy Old testament God or an uber-Refbot and am willing to suffer the imperfections in order to keep whatever we can of the “art” — we already review everything. I don’t really suspect the officials of intentionally blowing it.

I do think some amount of getting on their case is healthy — too much of it is bad for college football. Too heavy, too lite. Seems like right now we’re letting the poodle drive the car.

by TGISaturday on Nov 10, 2009 11:15 AM EST reply actions  

@ 8

If you are refering to the LSU-UGA game penalties, you do know that it also happened to us as well, exactly 3 plays after you got penalized. However, you didn’t stop Charles Scott from scoring, but we stopped you by intercepting Cox.

As far as the Bama game, we also stopped them with an INT, but the ref never gave Jarrett Lee a chance to throw another Pick 6.

So to answer your question: No it wasn’t fun either time the refs fucked us. We were just able to overcome one of them.

by LSUFreek on Nov 10, 2009 11:29 AM EST reply actions  

LSUFreek,

9 yards in the final 18 minutes.

That is all.

by RIP Logan Young on Nov 10, 2009 11:45 AM EST reply actions  

I still call them BW3 despite the lack of weck.

by gtne91 on Nov 10, 2009 11:47 AM EST reply actions  

I find it hard to believe there would be an active conspiracy to keep Alabama and Florida undefeated, but it’s reeeeally strange that there haven’t been any flags that have completely fucked them in big games like their opponents.

I would not be surprised in the least to see another magical flag appear should Alabama be trailing Auburn late in the Iron Bowl.

by etsuVol on Nov 10, 2009 11:51 AM EST reply actions  

etsuVol:
i believe that if AU is up on UA late in the iron bowl, I think there will be something much more drastic than a magical flag. Hell- if AU pulls it out, ESPN may just drop a feul-air bomb on the stadium to erradicate any evidence of the thing, and give UA an honorary National Title (worth about as much as the rest of theirs…)

and not for nothin, but if I were Saban and I had the lakehouse he has, I would go there too. The fucker is enormous- surprised it isn’t on MTV Cribs yet.
Bought it shortly after he signed with UA. I’m talking millions and millions. It’s on Lake Burton, in north GA, a lake which is basically owned by Georgia Power, and Jolly Saint Nick bought the lots next to the president of Ga Power and built a lake mansion bigger than his just to be a dick.

by JDAU on Nov 10, 2009 12:02 PM EST reply actions  

@etsuVol…maybe UF and Bama don’t commit penalties that would “completely f them” because they’re good teams?

by zzgator on Nov 10, 2009 12:02 PM EST reply actions  

zzgator…………………………………………………………..ha

by etsuVol on Nov 10, 2009 12:05 PM EST reply actions  

We would then hear about the one that got away. But upon furthur review, it jumped out of the boat.

Correction… upon further review, the fish jumped out of the boat and onto a grill. The fish was delicious. First down Florida/Alabama.

by CincySooner on Nov 10, 2009 12:08 PM EST reply actions  

etsuVol…I’ll count that response from you as a moral victory. Thanks.

by zzgator on Nov 10, 2009 12:10 PM EST reply actions  

It’s true Alabama and Florida don’t commit penalties. If no flag is thrown, there was no penalty, right?

by etsuVol on Nov 10, 2009 12:13 PM EST reply actions  

You were specifically referencing penalties that would completely “f them”. Feel free to point out the egregious non-calls that had a flag been thrown on Bama or UF it would have completely “f-ed them” and caused them to lose a game.

To be fair, I haven’t watched all of Bama’s games, so perhaps there is an argument to be made.

by zzgator on Nov 10, 2009 12:15 PM EST reply actions  

Alabama had two penalties that could have completely fucked them. The breaking the huddle with 12 players on 3rd and goal from the 2 and the intentional grounding in the endzone.

by Tater Salad on Nov 10, 2009 12:18 PM EST reply actions  

Oh come on, Florida’s victory over Arkansas was so ref-assisted that the SEC took the unprecedented step of publicly suspending the entire crew.

And I did say flags but should have said flags and calls such as the one LSUFreek seems to have a problem with. Alabama and Florida are good teams who can overcome things that for other teams would be drive-killers, but there is huge uproar this year over SEC officiating and how much of it is over calls that have not benefited UF or Bama? The late hit on Tebow should have been called, that’s the one I can think of.

by etsuVol on Nov 10, 2009 12:28 PM EST reply actions  

How many of the high profile calls have benefitted Alabama? The one on Saturday is the only one, and it involved an absolutely terrific play on the sideline where the corner dragged his foot to stay in bounds. I think it was a pick. But because the ruling on the field was incomplete, the replay official did not think the replays provided irrefutable evidence to overturn the call. It sucks for LSU, but it happens. That’s the only high profile, questionable call that’s benefitted Alabama.

The rest of the pissing and moaning consists of LOOK AT ALABAMA THEY ARE HOLDING!!!

Same shit as every other year.

by Tater Salad on Nov 10, 2009 12:32 PM EST reply actions  

Regarding that Arkansas game…I’ll just quote LSU fans…“Cochon de Lait”.

by zzgator on Nov 10, 2009 12:58 PM EST reply actions  

Sabanator Dept:

Do not like LSU, obviously, but gotta go with them on this one. Bama got timely gift from officials.

And, Saban is laying it on real thick, with his latest officials love letter, to continue to get calls go his way, especially preparing the officials for the Florida-Bama title game.

Though Saban is a midget, he is not a mental one.

by Stacy Kiebler Luvs Me on Nov 10, 2009 1:03 PM EST reply actions  

Are interceptions worth 10 points now?
24-15
Shut the fuck up LSU fans. Even if the refs give you the call…wait for it, wait for it…You still would have lost!!!

by Richard Steel on Nov 10, 2009 1:10 PM EST reply actions  

Aren’t all the SEC officials from B’ham anyway? Does Saban really need to love them up against UF…the orange headed step child of the “Old South”eastern Conference?

by zzgator on Nov 10, 2009 1:12 PM EST reply actions  

hey, here is an idea for LSU fans, score more points so the officials don’t play a part in the game. otherwise, sit back, shut up and suck on it and take your ass kicking like a man.

by 7Tech on Nov 10, 2009 1:16 PM EST reply actions  

Bama opponents have committed 60 penalties this season. Bama has 51. We beat VT pretty handily and committed 10 penalties to their 6. The only game with a pretty wide margin in Bama’s favor was the UT game (8 – 1). I don’t really see a huge overall lean to Bama’s favor in the numbers.

by The Snake will Drive Again on Nov 10, 2009 1:33 PM EST reply actions  

Complainers Dept:

If the calls during the LSU-Bama game would have gone the other way, I am SURE that Bama fans would not say ONE word about it. (HA!!!)

It will be a lot of fun seeing Saban throw his head set multiple times and have HISSY FITS like a little girl (sorry girls) when he gets whacked by Urban & Co.

(((And to repeat, I am not an LSU fan, in fact, I am hoping somehow, USC gets a crack at them and then cracks them good.)))

by Stacy Kiebler Luvs Me on Nov 10, 2009 2:05 PM EST reply actions  

How large a bottle are we talking about here? Because guilt is relative to damage caused.

by dc trojan on Nov 10, 2009 2:18 PM EST reply actions  

In regards to penalites, Bama’s opponents, as I recall, have committed a ton of sloppy procedural plays like false starts, which are not at all subjective, as is holding.

by bama_buck on Nov 10, 2009 2:19 PM EST reply actions  

#30, we Bama fans have been complaing for years about penalties that go against us, and will continue to do so in the future.

Shall we pull out our lists of questionable calls that benfitted LSU in past years, or Tenneessee during their SEC or Nat. Championship years?

Was there a conspiracy then too?

You are right. We’d be whining if we had lost. Thankfully we held LSU to 9 yards of offense in the 4th :)

by bama_buck on Nov 10, 2009 2:27 PM EST reply actions  

Can I let go of Mt Cody’s jersey yet ?

by T Bob Hebert on Nov 10, 2009 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

The fact that I find most amusing about this whole thing is how probably every fan on this blog has a better tv and watches the game in high definition which unfortunately the replay official doesn’t get. Just in case you have forgotten, flip over to the low definition channel next time and try to make some of these calls. For all of the money in the league you would think they could get the replay official a 72 inch plasma and some friggin’ high def. You can even throw in a lazy boy if he does a good job.

by JIMatUA on Nov 10, 2009 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

So maybe haven’t watched enough TV and Youtube since Saturday and missed some replay with the angle that definitively shows LSU’s Peterson in bounds but from what I’ve seen, there’s no definitive evidence that his feet were in. Can someone point me to a replay that shows him certainly in bounds? Maybe from an angle looking down the sideline that shows his feet with some green between them and the sideline? Please show me that and I’ll say that it was a blown call.

Even if the call was blown, we know calls aren’t always perfect, and I remember a certain pass interference the should’ve been called that would’ve wrecked LSU’s NC season a few years ago when Bama was leading, dominating LSU’s defense and driving to score. Spencer Pennington threw to DJ Hall in the endzone. The LSU defender shoved Hall out of the way, intercepted the ball and the game turned on that play. Refs fuck up all the time, and the UF-Ark game had some real stinkbombs, but they’ve been asked to start clamping down on potentially unsafe behavior and excessive celebration (though Tebow seems immune from this). Now we’ve put the zebes under a microscope and have got the echo chamber shouting “conspiracy!” The notion that the refs are intentionally blowing the game is whining on the part of sore losers and the tinfoil hat crowd.

Oh yeah, there’s also line of reasoning that the UA-LSU call was valid (from http://www.bamasportsreport.com/2009-articles/november/did-the-refs-miss-the-call.html):

“But there is more to the play than where Peterson’s feet are. Take a look at Julio Jones’s feet.

Julio is clearly out of bounds. At the point where Peterson catches the ball, Julio clearly makes contact with the ball.

Becaue Julio is out of bounds and makes contact with the ball, the ball is dead – incomplete pass."

Here’s the bonus pic from the game that shows what happened:
http://cdn3.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/85026/quit.png

by ColoBama on Nov 10, 2009 3:58 PM EST reply actions  

The ONLY reason there is such an uproar over SEC officiating this year is because Lane Kiffin is such a little snot-nosed bitch.

by RIP Logan Young on Nov 10, 2009 5:15 PM EST reply actions  

srsly? The worst calls have been in games not involving Tennessee. I think Lil’ Lane is the least of Slive’s worries.

by etsuVol on Nov 10, 2009 5:44 PM EST reply actions  

I’ve never been much of a conspiracy theorist in past regarding the refs. but this season is different.

Miss State and Auburn need to assume the position for the ass-raping
they’re about to receive courtesy of the SEC officials.

by WayneBradywillchokeabitch on Nov 10, 2009 10:35 PM EST reply actions  

Hey LSU, its your coaching you should be worried about and not the REFS….plus the fact that Bama beat yall up so bad that your starting QB, CB, RB and a whole host of others were knocked out of the game…man up, take your lumps, it wont be your last….8-4 is your immediate future for the next 3 yrs…

by Mr. Pelican Pants on Nov 10, 2009 11:39 PM EST reply actions  

Good job by Freek, as per usual.

However, I’d like to see Saban superimposed over this saying “Leave the Referee’s Alone”:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc

by Ted Valentine on Nov 11, 2009 11:16 AM EST reply actions  

From a neutral observer, I didn’t think the INT call (or missed call) was that bad, but Alabama’s OL was blatantly, obviously holding on basically every pass play – they had no answer for LSU’s pass rush other than holding, and IMO it was obvious. 10% of those get called and Alabama probably loses…

by PSUfanNYC on Nov 11, 2009 2:27 PM EST reply actions  

The SEC has stopped calling holding, period. On anyone. Watch the game again. There were 4 blatant holds on LSU’s first touchdown drive (not to mention the block-in-the-back that even Uncle Verne called “close”). Then on their second TD, T-Bob redefined holding.

by PeterPumpkinhead on Nov 11, 2009 3:48 PM EST reply actions  

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