BLOGPOLL DRAFT, WEEK NINE: FRENZIED GUESSING IN EVERY DIRECTION

Where’s the “Moral Victory” Poll?

While I appreciate the vote of confidence for the Mountaineer program, isn’t a seven point jump a bit much for beating UCONN by only 4 at home?

And what about the BEEEEES? They shred an 8 game winless streak at UVA and drop a spot?

Good to see someone hasn’t lost their mind about Cincinnati. Hard to see how Miami stays in at all other than we all really want da U to be BACK.

Note to all the haters who said the Big (l)East should be booted from the BCS. That may still be true, but you’ve got to kick the ACC out first.

I’m getting tired of posting this, but here goes:

The Big East is the worst of the Big Six Conferences. They’re a combined 2-2 against ACC teams. Not bad until you consider that those ACC teams are a combined 2-12 in conference play. One of those wins was against another bottom feeder, FSU (1-3) over UNC (0-3). Pit the Big East’s top 4 (Pitt, Cincy, WVU, USF) against the ACC top four (GT, VT, Miami, Clemson) and the bottom four of the two conferences (UCONN, Rutgers, Syracuse, and Louisville; Maryland, FSU, UNC, NCState) and the Big Least would be lucky to go 2-6.

Please remove my Clemson Tigers from this Poll. We have done nothing to deserve a place yet, and need to improve upon a good win over a great football team, and not shit the bed before getting into even a make shift blog poll for possible contenders of the near future poll by ESPN the Ocho.

Also drop South Carolina and Notre Dame. Sorry, South Carolina barely held on to beat a very mediocure Vanderbilt team, that should speak volumes of where they are at right now (and I swear if someone says its the SEC they are all good, please jump off a bridge). As well, Notre Dame is a sweltering joke team that under Weiss still does not have a quality win. Until they beat somone legitament, keep them out.

@3 – Say what you want, but the ACC is a decent conference. The Big East currently has a very good Pittsburgh and Cincinnati teams, with WV not far behind, but the rest of the conference isn’t up to the level of the other 5 conferences since Miami, VT, and BC left. But don’t worry, no one is kicking anyone out of the BCS, they are actually talking of allowing a 7th member join, more in likely the MWC. Will be interesting to see

Should’ve put Texas at #1 to continue the rotation among the top 3 of who sucks the least.

And yeah, Pitt over GT is kind of a joke. Are you aware who coaches each of those teams?

A 2-loss BYU team that lost BADLY in both losses, at home, one to FSU is better than a 2-loss Ole Miss team that lost to #19 USCe and #1 Alabama, one of them on the road?

How does pennstate destroy Michigan in the big house and drop a spot? Really Pitt jumps 5 spots PITT?

The most interesting man in the world was quoted regarding this blog poll – “No”

Pitt lost to NC State. NC State has not defeated another FBS team this year. NC State got hammered by Duke.

Ranking Pitt above beeeeeeeeesssssss (or any of 5-6 other good teams) can only be attributed to orange drank or angry old testament god taking over the ballot.

I like what you did there, putting ND down at #15 so it can be a nice, round 10 spots when they’re boosted to #5 after winning by more than 8 points over WSU on Saturyda. Droll. Very droll.

@8 /wanstached

So if I’m reading 1 – 9 correctly, it’s remain undefeated in a big-boy conference / Big 10 / lesser conference, then Pac 10 1-lossers separated on who beat Washington, and then everyone else?

Seems reasonable enough.

Tim James… Shhhhhhhh. Please. We need the Wannstache to maintain his winning ways with a huge prize in sight when the Irish roll into Heinz field on the 14th.

Just out of curiosity, you had the Ducks at #11 last week (from the link below your poll).
This week you have them at #8.

I’m a bit flu-ridden and my mind is a bit cottony at this point, but my mad math skillz helped me
count we’re 3 spots up. Isn’t that what your delta column should be showing? If it’s not, ignore
this sick duck fan trolling the internet waiting for Saturday.

Notre Dame? BYU? In the poll? Whatfor?

Oregon falls for eviscerating Washington? Wha?

Print it out, light it on fire, and try it again.

Pitt should be lower than both GT & Penn State due to top-heavy nature of Big East.

Offscreen at about #75 is the Higgs boson created by the K-State/Tech/A&M collisions. End of world to follow—but it will be just a flash, so no pain. That is all.

Oy vey. Big XII North – not so good at the football.

Counter Trap, you failed to factor in this: hanging in at #74 is the black hole of suckitude created by Washington State
collapsing on itself. The event horizon just might be a little too close for comfort.

Wait… so when Florida only beats Arkansas by a field goal, with questionable refs, they go below Alabama, who handled them easily.

When Alabama only beats Tennessee by 2, letting Crompton seem good in the process, because Mount Cody blocked TWO field goals due to Kiffin’s refusal to move in closer, and questionable calls by the refs, while Florida handled them easily… Florida goes down again?

Huh?

I still say Florida’s D is the best in the country, and D wins championships. And they’ve GOTTA overcome their red zone allergy at SOME point, right?

Your Delta column is all screwed up….Ohio State couldn’t have dropped just one spot, unless the team in that spot also moved. But, you have South Carolina there, with no movement.

Speaking of which, 6-2 South Carolina and 6-2 Ohio State- South Carolina jumps from unranked to 19 with a 14-10 win over 2-6 Vanderbilt, while OSU drops from 19 to 20 after a 38-7 win over 4-4 Minnesota….I’m confused.

Never mind the deltas too much—they are screwed up here.

Clemson is its usual maddeningly inconsistent team: in the same year they gave GT a run for their money and beat Miami (thanks, Dabo, for clearing the road) and then turn around and lose to Maryland.

Pitt is scaring me because it seems Wannstedt has discovered “consistency”. They should stay pretty far from the top ten, but at least they have somewhat deserved their top 25 standing.

I think demoting Alabama and putting Texas at 1 would make sense, given that Texas went crazy on an away game and Alabama BARELY escaped Kiffykins.

This love affair with Boise State needs to stop. TCU has had the courtesy and dignity to beat ranked opponents several times this year, which Boise cannot claim.

As much as I hate to admit it, Cincinnati looks to be for real this year. They’re beating cupcakes mostly, but they are doing so by enormous margins. If they run the table, beating ranked Pitt, WVU, and South Florida (at the time) in the process, I would find it hard to ignore them in the scenario of undefeated Big XII/SEC/Big East champions.

The top 6 looks solid, I would put Oregon above Boise State, move Penn State up a bit, drop LSU down a bit, and I think West Virginia is grossly overrated to be ranked above a VT team whose only loss was @ Georgia Tech.

Correction: VT has lost to Alabama too. But WVU lost to Auburn, who is quickly reverting to the expected Orchizm year that everyone was waiting for.

This is one of the few polls that even begins to get where Southern Cal belongs correct. I like the top ten.

#24, I would appreciate some sort of explanation as to why Oregon should be ranked above Boise State.

Land of the Brave Dept:

Some pollster out “there”, whoever it is, must be brave enough to knock down both Florida and Alabama a few spots each. They have both sucked recently, in the “legendary in their onw mind” SEC conference that has been second rate this year.

@ 4. STFU, man. John Swofford (awesome wiki insult right this sec) is probably reading this, and scheming to set up an ACC-Big East Challenge that will realize that bottom-four matchup. And then we’ll all be forced to stab knitting needles into our eyes rather than watch the UNC-Syracuse cripple fight.

Memo to Journalist Swindle:

USC does not like to be called “Southern Cal”.

@18 – extra credit for working in the higgs bosun in an internet blog post about an internet blogger poll. that’s juxtaposition, brotha!

it’s akin to me going home tonight and open up my copy of tiger beat to find an article on bose-einstein condensate.

I can’t say that I’m surprised.

TechDan @ 4 – It would be difficult to continually post something so wrong.

The Big East has a .750 winning percentage (21-7) in nonconference play this season, which puts it behind only the SEC (.920) and Big 12 (.762) among Football Bowl Subdivision conferences. Other than VaTech, the ACC stinks. GaTech and UVa are interesting because they’re FAIL with such charisma. Miami is a favorite only because we all get a kick out of da U. BC just lost to ND and the rest of the conference just plain stinks. Did I overlook Maryland? mea culpa.

Conference ranking: SEC, Big 12/Pac 10, Big East, Big 10, Mountain West, ACC, WAC.

I’m not sure of this, but didn’t the Big East also put 3 teams into the final four in BB? Maybe I should watch out here…didn’t an ACC team win the whole thing?

Given how this poll fluctuates I don’t mind the top 8 too too much, but after that I’m scratching my head a lot. I feel LSU is in a reasonable place because the thread by which they climb to marginal victory will snap sooner or later.

Pittsburgh should kindly move to the back of the poll as their betters are sitting at 12 and 13.

On top of that WVU shouldn’t be ranked any better than the number of times they’ve put the ball on the ground (pretty sure that puts them outside the top 25).

Golden Hand -

UNC and Syracuse make for great lacrosse, and decent basketball most years. If only they would limit it to those sports, both schools would be better off.

SHould USC lose to Oregon, and UF and Bama continue their undefeated ways, I think USC and LSU should bowl it out.

@ 30. And that’s why Southern Cal can suck my balls. Who cares what they like? This USCw, USCe jazz is just too complicated. Keep it Southern Cal and Sakerlina, and there’s no confusion.

I also think you owe Orson an apology for referring to him as a journalist.

P.S. Frisco, Frisco, Frisco.

It feels like piling on at this point… but you put Pitt over GT so here it goes:

Pitt?? Really? They lost to NC State! NC State is at the bottom of the ACC. GT’s only loss is to Miami, who is not at the bottom of the ACC. GTs best win is also better than Pitt’s best.

In summary: GT > Pitt

@ 30

Yeah, they much rather be called “So Cal” because they are SOOOOO So Cal.

@ 37

Hardest part about being Pitt?

…..mustache

Why is Cinci ranked over BSU? BSU has a better performance against a common opponent (Fresno State), BSU has a better quality win over Oregon, and their strength of schedule is either about the same as Cinci’s or is better, depending on which measure of SOS you use. They do have a blue field, but is that enough to make them be ranked lower?

@18: The Higgs boson and Bill Snyder’s coaching strategy have much in common, in that a) they were both created a nanosecond after the Big Boom, and b) exist only in theory.

(Continues to Pile on. 15 yard penalty)
Pitt
09/05/09 vs. Youngstown State Heinz Field W, 38-3
09/12/09 at Buffalo TV Buffalo, NY W, 54-27
09/19/09 vs. Navy TV Heinz Field W, 27-14
09/26/09 at North Carolina State TV Raleigh, NC L, 38-31
10/02/09 at Louisville TV Louisville, KY W, 35-10
10/10/09 vs. Connecticut TV Heinz Field W, 24-21
10/16/09 at Rutgers TV Piscataway, NJ W, 24-17
10/24/09 vs. USF TV Heinz Field W, 41-14

GT
09/05/09 vs. Jacksonville State TV Bobby Dodd Stadium W, 37-17
09/10/09 vs. Clemson TV Bobby Dodd Stadium W, 30-27
09/17/09 at Miami TV Miami Gardens, Fla. L, 33-17
09/26/09 vs. North Carolina TV Bobby Dodd Stadium W, 24-7
10/03/09 at Mississippi State TV Starkville, Miss. W, 42-31
10/10/09 at Florida State TV Tallahassee, Fla. W, 49-44
10/17/09 vs. Virginia Tech TV Bobby Dodd Stadium W, 28-23
10/24/09 at Virginia TV Charlottesville, Va. W, 34-9

GT clearly has had the better record. Don’t let you love the stache blind you Orson! And besides, Pitt plays at Heinz field. Much like Miami, thats instant anti-karma.

Not that it matters, Cincy will go Cumberland on Pitt anyway

/Blatent Homer all around

1. The BE couldn’t have gotten 3 teams in the Final Four because the NC game was UNC vs. Michigan State.

NittanyJackets @ 33
You are correct about WVU in the "ranked any better than the number of times they’ve put it on the ground hypothesis. However, you are wrong that they be outside the top 25.

To date Wf’nV has lost 12 fumbles and 7 INTs, but recovered 4 fumbles and made 7 INTs for a margin of -3. I can live with a ranking of 19.

@33 OhioDawg

Yeah, UNC won it all. Big East got 3 teams there beacuse there are a billion of them.

And I would wait until at least Thanksgiving before you try calling out GT.

D’oh should read “made 12 INTs for a margin of -3”

@ SC’Eer

that fumbling deal was more for comedic effect, and honestly just wait a few weeks and they’ll have fumbled there way into more problems… unless they just put 11 noel devine’s on the field

Kevin@LSU #39,

Hilarious. Maybe we should refer to them by thier area code to really be cool.

When told of Orson Swindle’s week nine blogpoll ballot, with Georgia Tech one spot behind surging Pittsburgh, Paul Johnson seemed less than pleased.

“That’s a joke,” Johnson said Tuesday. “Put the tape on and watch.”

Yeah, and that loss to NC State was the Dave Wannstedt moment of year he always has. They were winning 31-17, tried to sit on it and blew it. Not to mention Russell Wilson had basically the game of his life. Also, Pitt’s starting middle linebacker Adam Gunn was out for that game, and the True Frosh backing him up had no idea how to spy Wilson or how to cover his zone.

The little red arrow next to Penn State is delicious. Keep ’em moving.

Just Trying to be Helpful Dept:

#‘37 & # 39: The true college football cognoscenti* know that USC-w should not be referred to as “Southern Cal”, unless there is an attempt to slight them…just sayin’…

…Knowing this difference is just one small thang that separates people with good knowledge of college footbaw…as opposed to pretenders (usually from the biased East Coast that do not watch USC games because they are too late in the day and just see the box score the next day).

• I cut ’n pasted the definition, for those of you from areas of the country with not the greatest of education (——> looking right at you LSU types):

Co·gno·scen·te (k n y-sh n t, k g n-) n. pl. co·gno·scen·ti (-t) A person with superior, usually specialized knowledge or highly refined taste

Polls are the new Opinion….

…and like assholes, EVERYONE has one and they all stink.

….there’s only one that matters, and it comes out Jan 8th.

“USC does not like to be called "Southern Cal".

sklm, that’s kind like cheeseburger charlie expecting SKLM to call him Weis.

And speaking of the cheezy one BGS captured that streak of last second wins and losses quite nicely:

http://bluegraysky.com/images/team-on-wire.gif

Sure SKLM and we’ll all be sure to say THE OHIO STATE next.

Blue Gray Dept:

Ha!!!

The writers at BGS are some of the best ….and the Cheeseburglar is making their life whacky with so many come from behind wins and difficult losses.

The one loss teams starting at #8 looks about right. Amazing how many folks screw that one up. Boise > Oregon > USC looks good as well.

@4. The only place the ACC is ahead of the Big East is in the alphabet.

SKLM…

Well, no matter have refined your tastes are or no matter how vast your superior intellect may be, I’ll take my quality education from LSU and apply said education to my good paying engineering job.

Other Yahoos Dept:

1. - I’m just having fun!….And I know there are bigger yahoos elsewhere…

  :-)

I’m a Clemson fan, and I think the tigers deserved to be ranked, kudos for putting them in there at 21. But as 3 loss teams go, i think you have to have Oklahoma ahead of the Tigers, or at the very least ranked if you’re going to stick Clemson in there.

In fact if i was ranking teams, it would probably look a lot like Sagarin’s predictor ranking, modified slightly, which has Oklahoma at #6 and Clemson at #14 despite 3 losses a piece because of the focus on margin of victory.

I know it’s not a power poll, and you have to respect wins and losses even if they are by a few points, but there’s definitely no more than 5 teams that i’d take over Oklahoma on a neutral field if I’m forced to bet a year’s salary.

OhioDawg, I fail to see exactly how facts (2-2 vs teams 2-12 in conference) could possibly be wrong, when, by definition, wrong means “not factual.” Besides, you’re hardly impartial on the subject when it comes to GT, especially since we beat the pups last year, and intend on doing so again in just over a month.

@35-

You’re forgetting UNC is awesome at women’s soccer too. They’re usually in the top 5 every year.

How the hell is Pitt at #11? Crazy shit right thar

Pitt ahead of GT is a JOKE!!!! When you lose to NCST and have beaten no one you deserve to sit in a corner (I’m talking all the Big East here). GT would beat the piss outta Wanstache. Then we would take his stash. Johnson would field a bunch of calls about chop blocks and respond by sending people an autographed version of Smiling: The Paul Johnson Way.

Big is is a POS conf. Yep that is coming from an ACC fan. Numbers do not lie they are ahem… crappy.

Blasphemous! Where’s the good USC? The Orr is not pleased.

scratch that… no.19….

Well you can tell many people have a bad CRACK habit by reviewing the poll that is for sure…

On the up side we no longer see the trembling bladder control challanged bed wetting chihuahuas…A.K.A UGAg

TechDan – Just guessing that you’re not a Tech grad. I didn’t think Tech would cave to grade inflation. Just kidding.

The facts aren’t right or wrong, it’s the analysis you apply to them. How ‘bout this: A team without losses is better than a team with them. Ergo, Cincinnati is better than Tech. Fact? It’s probably too late to hope you’ll see this, but I’d love to see the contorted analysis to keep your earlier premise alive.

Again, when you’re not playing UGa, I’m all for Tech.