ARKANSAS/FLORIDA: GETTING AWAY WITH IT

Urban Meyer just took a shower and said “That’s some tough SEC dirt there. I’m going to tell my guys to savor this one.”

I disagree re: Texas. They played even worse than Florida, and won entirely due to Oklahoma’s mistakes.

So we’re pretty much at the point where the only way the baby rhino won’t be an enormous NFL bust is if Mike Pereira hires away the SEC’s entire roster of officials.

No complaint about the officiating in UF – Arkansas because the same applies to LSU – Georgia from two weeks and countless other SEC games. The unsportsmanlike celebration penalties in the SEC this season have been confounding. Flags for next-to-nothing. It’s a little silly.

Agreed with CBGator. Florida’s close game was the result of Arkansas playing out of its collective skull. Texas’ close game was the result of poor play on its end. Iowa is more deserving of the title game shot in this very moment.

Not a Hog fan here. There’s no way you can tell those that are that they shouldn’t complain about the officiating. The officials handed Tebow that touchdown on a plate, and then the announcers lifted up paeans to his glory when he cashed it in. The absence of those two home-cookin’ calls costs the Gators the game.

And this, folks, is why other officials tell jokes about SEC officials.

concerning refs, as I see it the SEC refs let players tend to let WR contact and more questionable hits downfield calls go, tthe Big 12 couldnt make a holding call to save their lives and cant wait to throw a roughing the passer flag the Big Ten and ACC are just incompetent, and the Big East are the most literal interpretation of written words you will ever see on a field.

I am just floored that a taunting call can be called at a UF game and NOT involve Tim Tebow who has demonstrated the proper technique better than anyone.

Did anyone else notice that when James fumbled the ball, Uncle Verne automatically said it was Moody? Also, there was someone in the stands with an Ernie from Sesame Street mask on. And the Gators won. The End.

THE IOWA OF THE SEC? that’s too harsh.

I’ll see you a “taunting” call (for too much flexing after a sack), and raise you a “late hit” on a running back
who goes for the sideline but then cuts back onto the field, as well as a 97% BS “roughing the passer” call.
Of the five or six personal fouls that the Trojans got nailed for, at best two of them were legit—the spearing
call and the (offsetting) fighting call, though the latter one wasn’t actually televised, so I can’t say for sure.
This particular crop of PAC-10(!) officials were pulling hard for the Irish to win, but Clausen still managed to
throw the ball (and his Heisman chances) away when it counted.

“The playcalling is relentlessly uninventive, and the line buckled under pressure from the [insert Ohio State opponent from the last 3 years] d-line, the other set of Ro-beasts hounding [Pryor/Boeckman] and sacking him six times. This offense is, in the words of Sophocles, "kinda shitty."

That’s kinda shitty- you just had a bad day. When it happens for three years running, and you lose to Mississippi State(oops, I mean Purdue), let us know.

Now, back to the bottles sitting around me.

that no-call on the blatant offensive pass interference on the endzone on the final drive was the real killer

Coincidence?

http://www.hogdb.com/2009/10/17/digging-deeper-same-refs-as-lsu-vs-georgia/

Speaking of not living up to expectations, Gary and Uncle Verne were pretty bad the last two weeks. Other than the ridiculous “championship hierarchy” chart, there was too much calling guys the wrong name, failing to tell us who exactly was calling which timeouts, and choosing not to notice or explain penalties.

As for the bad calls, I’ll accept the PI, but that taunting was a little on the embarrassing side. And since we still stand a good chance to score without it, it kinda sucked to see called.

After Charlie Strong makes Janoris run until he pukes, I hope Urban holds down Addazio and gives Charlie one free swing.

We interrupt this message to bring you the following one:

BEEEEES MOTHER@$%%@!^& BEEEEEESSSSSSSS!!!

That is all.

Bitching about “offense”…. heh…. bitching about playcalling…. heh! [/Yoda] As Ohio State fans, MikeLew and I reserve the right to beat you with a baseball bat covered in barbed wire, Swindle. I imagine Hokie fans will join in, too.

As an Ole Miss fan, I can unequivocably predict that we are soooooooo getting ass-raped by the Hogs next week.

And without even the courtesy of lube.

As an Arkansas fan, I’m not too pissed. It was bullshit but, hey, fuck it. Shouldn’t have had a Division II kicker on the field with the game on the line. I just hope the hangover doesn’t linger until next weekend, because I really, really want to Ole Miss and their functional retard of a head coach get pounded like a Saigon whore.

::Pats dejected Razorback mascot on the head::

That’ll do, pig. That’ll do.

Oh, c’mon. If this had been an SEC game, everyone would be drooling over an amazing display of defense.

Arkansas isn’t a very good team; I think it’s interesting that now everyone (mostly UF fans) is talking about how good they are. Arkansas played a terribly sloppy game, and was only a few bogus penalties away from a win. I mean, did you see Arkansas’ offense? Mallett was off target, and the only bright spot was their Superman-esque running back Johnson.

Both OU (minus Bradford) and Texas could both beat Arkansas easily.

I love Uncle Verne and all, but had to laugh when he thought that if the Arkansas WR fumbles the ball at the one on the 60 yard reception play, it might be ruled an incomplete pass.

http://www.hogdb.com/2009/10/17/digging-deeper-same-refs-as-lsu-vs-georgia/comment-page-1

same crew as georgia/lsu

public enemy #1?

Yes, Arkansas had opportunities. There were several ways they could have won the game by succeeding at X or not screwing up Y. How people keep confusing this with a useful argument is beyond me though.

Every team in every game in every sport ever could be said to have “had their chance” to win, if only they’d been perfect. Which no team in no game in no sport ever has ever been. Therefore, according to this line of argument, no team has ever been screwed ever…not in any meaningful sense that they have any right to complain about, anyhow.

I don’t agree.

Handing Florida that touchdown on a silver platter stunk to high heaven. It simply wasn’t right. Saying that it isn’t important because Arkansas’ kicker should have made his field goals isn’t a counter-argument…it’s an attempt to change the subject.

At any rate, the conclusion I’ve come to after the last couple weeks of games is that nobody is as good as advertised this year. Nobody.

P.S. Did anybody find it hilarious that both Urban and CBS seemed to be playing up the “Careful! Don’t get flagged for celebrating!” angle after the game-winning field goal. Like they were at any risk for that. The Gators had already gotten away with at least a dozen emotional moments that would have been hit for 15 yards under the A.J. Green standard…and I’m absolutely including St. Tim in that.

How long before the refs fuck over the Gamecocks?

::Resisted urge to make “Cock” joke. I’m so funny and clever.::

SEC quarterbacking in 2009 = a combination of pin the tail on the donkey and drunken dizzy bat

#11,

How do you feel getting stuck with that boring-ass triple option that will never work in the ACC?

signed,
NCSU AD

Why does every institution named the SEC suck at regulating things?

If Tejada makes those field goals, Arkansas wins IN SPITE of the refs. The converse is that the hogs lost BECAUSE of the officiating. (CAPITALIZED to show you which words are IMPORTANT)

I have come to the conclusion that today is just the day for good teams to play horrid. Texas and Florida are the obvious examples, of course, but VT’s Def looked nothing at all like the one that shut Miami down (and, thus, they lost), USC set ND up for another last second comeback to at least tie the game (that they failed to convert), and right now Bama is looking like ugly on an ape. SC’s lack of offense will still keep them from pulling the upset but you can’t tell me there are many bama fans happy about doing things like running Ingram up for monster high carer yardage while nursing a 13-6 lead half way through the 3rd.

I agree with you, Meg. I kinda feel like Tebow is getting a bit wrapped up in his own mystique and possibly becoming a lot more of a jerk than. He seemed much nicer a year or two ago. Maybe it’s a case of the Emperor’s invisible clothes? All of the sports writers are talking about his “amazing drive” and not even mentioning the ridiculous bogus penalties that gave them, what, 35 or 40 yards? Not to mention saving them from stalling the drive.

Arkansas is still just as mediocre as they were last week, and the week before. I mean, they played a pretty sloppy game and still almost beat Florida. Luckily, the refs were UF alums. Seriously.

Oh did florida win that game with Riley Cooper getting a piggy back ride???

ayyyy….damned proud of ‘em gators I am…. able to steal away a mighty fine victory without the use of the sword or cannon or even a small pistol…. that there’s pirating on a grand scale

PiratePetey, somewhere in the Gulf

If Tejada made both the kicks that he missed, Florida would have scored a TD instead of a field goal at the end to win.
  
Dropping TD passes, air mailing a wide open receiver in the end zone and forgetting that you are supposed to cover Florida receivers going deep every time they go deep helped do the Hogs in too. Arkansas was good enough to win today, but they just don’t do the little things that you have to do in big games. Florida does.

But, Jesus those two calls on the Florida TD drive were freaking hideous.

SC Gator: Bama hasn’t looked super dominant at times, but they also haven’t had their near-miss of the season (if any). Florida’s nursed plenty of leads so far as well.

http://www.hogdb.com/2009/10/17/digging-deeper-same-refs-as-lsu-vs-georgia/

Interesting little anecdote about the game tonight.

Holy shit, 5 turnovers in that game though. I’ll give you that there’s something wrong with ball control today.

Going to the Sports Illustrated cover this week “Nobody Does It Better”… frustratingly wrong… lots of teams can do it better than the Gators right now. Lots of work to do.

Florida fumbled the ball I think three times in the red zone before i flipped over to the GT VT wonderfest, and still won by three. Arkansas’ offense looked good, their defense looked good, but they just couldn’t really score.

As for GT VT, GaTech fumbled three times, none of them forced by VaTech, and won. It is my opinion that GaTech’s defense performed pretty well in “bend but don’t break” mode and there is nothing more thrilling than watching a long string of three to six yard toss plays and drinking and beer and realizing that this particular set of gimmicky option plays had been going on for seven game minutes against Virginia Tech and they couldn’t stop it.

There is still beer in one of the bottles in my living room. I am going to drink it and gloat to myself further.

Fourth turnover. It’s right there, Alabama. Number one in the country! Take it!

I’ll give you that I think play calling at the Florida game was shitty, but ALL the play calling lately has been spotty at best. The officials have taken a habit of calling minor infractions (see: Excessive Celebration that nobody thought excessive) and letting crazy amounts of horse collars, clipping, PI and intentional effing grounding go. Seriously, does nobody police them?

And I’m not just saying this because I am a loyal devotee of one of the highest (if not THE highest) penalized teams in NCAA history, I’ve honestly noticed crap calling. Am I alone on this?

“Arkansas deserves not your pity, nor any opining about the officiating. If they hit two field goals, they win this game, horrific calls and all.”

A half-hearted dismissal is all you can muster?That’s it?…..I expected more of you…much more. Where did it all go wrong?

It is awfully hard to take off those orange and blue glasses, isn’t it?

Bring back the wheel of florida’s offense, only take out the percy harvin options…it won’t look pretty.

@SabanNation

Yeah, some of it has been dodgy (LSU Georgia anybody?), but the best as far as just blatant stupidity was in the GT VT game when the ball was initially measured short, then an official ROTATED THE BALL AND NUDGED IT FORWARD AND CALLED IT A FIRST DOWN WHILE THE CAMERA WAS IN CLOSEUP OF THE MEASUREMENT.

That was amazing.

Sketchy. I’m aware that a certain amount of play calling is subjective, but is there no policing body? Nobody to keep them honest?

Yeah, the only thing keeping me from giving in to the various conspiracy theories is the fact that so many different crews working so many different games have been showing the perspicacity of a bunch of macaques drunk on banana beer.

But then, this is an education-related enterprise, and it is education administrators who provide us all the wonderfully brain-dead examples of “zero tolerance” week in and week out. How much better can we expect of the gurus at SEC headquarters?

What I find an even more perplexing problem is the unending plague of malfunctioning play clocks across the country. Division I-A football programs spend millions of dollars and are attached to universities engaged in all sorts of high-tech research. How can having a functioning, mission-critical clock be beyond them? Oh, and you’ll recall it is the 21st century…and we’re talking about frakking clocks here.

As a longtime Gator fan, I’ll take it. If you’ve followed the Gators for any length of time, you know they lose a knucklehead game like this every year, except for ‘95 and ’96. Ask Shane Matthews about his Thursday night trip to Starkville in ’92. Indeed, ask any Gator QB since, what, Kirwin Bell, about playing in the hostile confines of Scott Field (good thing we don’t have to go there anytime soon).

The Gators got through this one. They have to improve, but that’s nothing new, and it’s not like Urban and Charlie are unaware of that fact, or incompetent. Remember how crappy Florida looked when it won on a blocked FG against South Carolina? How unstoppable Ohio State was that season? That worked out okay.

We’re 6-0, defending champs, and on a six-game win streak. Life is good.

—EZE

Correction: sixTEEN-game win streak.

… and the Mangino’s implode at high altitude… thanks for playing KU, noone noticed you were undefeated, and now it’ll no longer matter

…this MIGHT just be the year that Boise State plays Cincinatti for the National Championship.

Florida turns it over, and over, and over and leaves 24 possible points off the board the first half. ….and FUCK we need an Offensive Coordinator!!

Alabama hasn’t impressed me much this year (not sure what games ya’ll are actually watching).

Given all the bullshit that has went down this year (Kentucky beats Auburn!!), I’ll take 6-0 and 16 straight….no matter how un-purty it is.

Hail Blog Goliard, my new favorite poster!

Yup. Just about to go final out in Colorado.

An undefeated record seems to be this year’s equivalent of a law degree. Way more people have one than is strictly necessary…and for the great majority, it’s never going to do them a damn bit of good.

Saban is going to exceed the mileage warranty on Mark Ingram…which I guess is good since the McElroy Air Express works about as well as the Hindenburg

Aww, shucks Charm.

It’s official: Auburn has bestowed on Kentucky their first conference win. Chizik nickels for everyone!

“They played even worse than Florida, and won entirely due to Oklahoma’s mistakes.”

“Entirely”?

Spurrier calls a fade-route… for the 5323th time tonight…

http://boards.dawgrun.com/message_board/georgia/2009/October/17/579908.php

GTFO, SEC refs

@ SteveinHouston

Hell of a prediction you made in that last thread re:the narratives. I just didn’t think it would take this long to come true.

The one irritating us most: another inane taunting penalty in the first half, moving SEC officiating further away from the application of rules from a handbook, and more towards the spontaneous review of interpretive dance.

But you shouldn’t complain about the refs. No sir no how no way.

With Adazzio in charge, the “Wheel of Florida Offense” has been replaced with a single large button labeled “DIVE!”.

@ #36:

You must have gone to a really shitty law school. And Kansas didn’t lose that game. They had it stolen by bullshit officiating calling a bullshit offensive pass interference taking away the winning touchdown. Bullshit.

And Hawkins continually throwing his son out there over Hardy for a year and a half might be the most hilariously stupid decision in recent college football history.

Bad calls and coaching brainfarts happen, but at least your teams have players that are All conference.

Canes Fan :-(

Orson, I wan’t 1,000,000 in small bills or I release this photo of Urban and one of the SEC crew:

http://bit.ly/2PzuBn

We had our chances and aren’t yet mature enough to overcome things like that. Know what’s really scarry? We Razorbacks only have ONE senior on defense. We’re playing mostly freshmen/Sophomores and a few two stars Giggity Giggitah left us.

Just wait until next year. This was only Mallett’s second SEC road start.

We have not begun to hit our rythym.

That was beyond fugly. Just terrible play. Basics- ball control, qb to back hand-off (um, guessing that get covered a bit in practice), TACKLING!, ugh.
and, please, please, Urban- tell Adazzio: “know what, you focus on O Line, and I’ll call the game.” Or hire an offensive coordinator.

Idaho is 6-1 and rushed for nearly 200 yards. Good Ship Cornhusker, meanwhile, had its offensive manifest plundered by Captain Leach’s band of blackfaced buccaneers.

The logical next step: fire Shawn Watson; hire Steve Axman.

Look, I’m a hog fan. I’m biased. I’m still mad that Tebow has McFadden’s heisman. HOWEVER,
You cannot, will not, convince me that Florida played the entire game without holding. NOT ONE DAMN HOLDING CALL. Those two calls giving Florida the TD were reminiscent of a cheap blowjob by hooker with no self-esteem.

I swear to the almighty… How they didn’t call offensive pass interference on Cooper in the endzone is unbelieveable.

Arkansas got hosed. BTW, this is the same officiating crew that castrated Georgia a few weeks ago. Phuck.

The officiating in the Bama-USC game seemed sorta bizarre to me. It’s like they didn’t want to throw a flag unless it was going to cost whoever they were throwing it against at least 25 yards. It made the game very frustrating to watch, and neither team played as poorly as their respective stat lines look.
two defensive minded teams with lots of penalties = ugly ugly football.

Ingram simply decided to take it upon himself to beat off the hard charging cocks.

On celebration penalties, I have come to the conclusion that refs are absolutely incapable of administering them in a fair, standardized way.
I propose that they allow 10 secs after every big play to go buck wild, and if the celebration delays the starting of the next play after that, its a 15 yd “disrupting play” flag or something like that.

Laugh if you want. Cry if you want.

Orson said “but if you look as odious as Florida’s offense looked for a half and still win, you did something right.”

West Fuckin’ Virginia understands that sentiment because we have been that odious, but we too remain undefeated in conference paly.

Last week: Texas Tech 66, Kansas State 14
This week: Kansas State 62, Texas A&M 14
Next week: Texas A&M at Texas Tech

This could get ugly.

Officials did not lose the game for Arkansas, but no sane person could admit it was a level playing field. Check out 3 penalties total called on UF. Also…there’s a small matter of the play clock reading :00 BEFORE Sturgis kicked the 51 yard FG. Go watch the replay on secdigitalnetwork.com (or one of you high fangled interweb boys can find the screen shot floating around) and it’s plain as day. Sturgis might have made a 56 yarder, but that’s a big WHAT IF in a 3 point game.

The personal foul on 96 Malcolm Sheppard on the Gator’s last TD drive was the best. Florida’s 76 Marcus Gilbert thought he would be cute and give Arkansas’ DL Sheppard a shot 20 yards away from the play. Sheppard saw what he was about to do and LAID HIM THE FUCK OUT. Of course, Sheppard had pretty much laid EVERY UF O-lineman out at some point in the day. However, the SEC officials decided that had to be a personal foul even though the play was ongoing and Sheppard was avoiding being blocked.

Arkansas had it’s chances. PK Alex Tejada lost yet another game for us due to missed FG’s (last year it kept us from being bowl eligible). Childs dropped a TD diving TD catch he’s made several times this year. Mallett overthrew a wide open FB Stumon in the end zone (although I think Stumon ran the wrong route). That’s 20 points (or actually a net 16 since we got a FG on one of those drives).

For the record…the crew that called today’s UF/AR game is THE SAME EXACT CREW who called the LSU/UGA game a couple of weeks ago. You know, the one the SEC head of officials Rogers Redding had to apologize for the Monday after the game? EVERY SEC fan should be pissed, including UF fans because these guys will eventually fuck your team. Hell, you MIGHT even get an apology, but will it matter?

You’re right Tire man. All schools need to come together and move to put a stop to Officiating that’s really bringing the entire conference down.

Think about it, the best conference in the USA has the worst officals. It doesn’t have to be this way.

There needs to be clear acountability. It should start with this crew getting the boot. Two weekends of bad calls is enough to tell most reasonable people that this group of zebras might be better suited at running three card monte games at the Villages in Florida.

Lets clean up officiating in the SEC, make it a year round position with constant training, and set clear guidelines and penalties for horridly called games that show a pattern of ineptitude or favoritisim.

@ 44 – we’ll see you next year 9/25 in Fayetville

I LOVE that tired excuse…..wait till next year wait till next year we only started 2 seniors blah blah blah

AU had a wonderful 6 penalties turning a 2nd and 1 into a 3rd and 26.

Please do not speak of Offensive woes….What UF has is not remotely offensive woes…last time I checked the gators do move the ball and get first downs…they do score points albeit maybe not what your use too but points are being put up..

Now if you want to see what horrendous offense looks like and you are depressed, suicidal and no longer want to go on living, then I suggest checking out one of tOSU games…Take your pick..hell you can even go back to 06 title game if you like!! Trust me Orson it could be worse!!

I have to tune in every week and watch a 6’6 230 lb athletic QB make the absolute worst decisions he can make in whatever situation he is in…Hey though at least he his being consistant…not sure how much more my liver can take…Pryor is like that sports car you always wanted then you finally buy one only to realize it is way to expensive and alot of up keep…then about a year later when you havent gotten anymore women because of it you just are ready to unload it..

@ Jim Grizzle:

I’d like to see a picture someone took at the game to see what the real play clock said. Sometimes the networks that show the games can be off by a bit when it comes to syncing their clock with the game clock. There was a game earlier this year—FSU-USF?—where the network was so far off they eventually just gave up.

The celebration in the stands at the end of the game was more of the “the statute of limitations has expired” type than it was for any sense of accomplishment. I witnessed so many crimes against the game (play-calling, blown calls, blown assignments, etc) I anticipate a subpoena any day now to appear in court.

That said, if we’re Iowa now then Arkansas is a better-coached Florida State. Replace Mallet with Ponder (i.e. someone who can actually hit open receivers on a consistent basis) we lose that game by 10 at least.

We will gladly trade officials with the SEC.

Signed,
Every Big 12 Fan EVER

1. 51 – no, it will not fuck over every SEC team. Florida and Alabama have no incentive to change the system, and will fight like hell against it. You really think that’s ever going to happen to Urban and Tim? Well, at least not Tim.

Also, shameful Orson. You can make your ignore the man behind the curtain argument if you wish, but you damn well know that game is won by Arkansas if properly officiated. And I hate Arkansas.

58 – Yes, it was horribly officiated, and the refs made it easier for UF to win. But, on that key drive, UF was moving the ball before the two penalties. Would they have scored? Maybe, maybe not. But that is a world apart from “you damn well know that the game is won by Arkansas.”

Y’all quit your fussin’ – ya bunch o’ Nancy Boys! You won! My team was hand-jobbed at UTEP and all we got to show for it was a “loss.”

tebus christ is infallible. all must conform to this ordinance, or perish.

Thom Brennaman thinks those players who sacked Tebag are better people for having been around him.

The four plays between Florida’s last touchdown read as such:

13-yard gain by Tebow
10-yard penalty
10-yard penalty
10-yard TD by Demps

Yes, the officials helped, but to say we were “handed on a silver platter” a touchdown by penalties approximating our YPP on the drive is a bit much.

Also, Florida had two high-powered drives killed by a snap a hair off at the worst time and a falling DB’s upturned foot, and had a touchback turn into an Arkansas touchdown when the ball hit a thick patch of grass. We may have gotten the officiating, but Arkansas had all the luck. Should we have won by thirty? Yep. Is it better than losing? You bet your ass.

The refs were in the UF locker room at halftime yelling, “Thirty minutes! Thirty minutes for the rest of our lives!”

Yay Alabama is #1 in the AP poll. This will really help Florida motivationally in all aspects of the team.

Its not even worth debating whether or not the officiating helped UF, it clearly did and all the spinning about luck and missed field goals doesnt change that.

What I want to know is this: How do AJ Green and CHarles Scott get taunting penalties for standing around in the end zone for too long, yet Tebow is allowed to stop the game to perform his Samoan Tonga dance after every two yard gain?

That being said, Petrino’s playcalling was straight out of the Tommy Bowden book of bitch mentality and Ryan Mallett had a horrible game so there are plenty of fingers to be pointed. And as much as I love Verne Lundquist, it might be time to hang it up when you think that a 70 yard catch run and fumble should be ruled an incompletion (though to be fair to Verne, with the way the game was officiated he might have been more on point with his analysis than I think.)

Florida has a really good team but got manhandled by the Hogs.
Tim Tebow is a fantastic athlete. Nothing but respect for him and the Gator Nation but… the refs absolutely
handed them the game. Absolutely the most egregious display of home cooked officiating that I have ever
witnessed in my 48 years. Borderline criminal in the transparency of the officiating.
Get out there and read the blogs/comments from all over the country.

Saying that if a team does this or that, they win in spite of the officiating ignores the fact that officials are having a direct bearing on the outcome of games either through incompetence or outright cheating. And if I were a coach of one of the unprotected teams I would make a bigger stink about.

I do not understand how the refs in the SEC can look at themselves in the mirror. Considering these were the same unbelievable asshats that called a penalty on AJ Green three weeks ago, how they never even thought about penalizing Tebow for his theatrics after EVERY single play were he did anything, I’m lost. This is getting out of hand. I understand it’s better if Florida and Alabama meet undefeated in the championship game, but taking games away from other teams just is unconscionable. Stole the game (fuck you, they did) from UGA, and now Arkansas gets one taken away too. I don’t care about the “oh how lucky were they” bullshit Florida fans will spout, but that team should have won that game. This is almost as heartbreaking as the loss to Vandy afew years ago should have been. Vandy (you know exactly when I’m talking about) got jobbed by the refs at Florida a few years ago, too. Sorry Arkansas. Welcome to the also-ran category in the SEC, where the refs don’t care about the rules.

“1 in 3 women experiences light bladder leakage.” You guys are bitching so much that you’ve caused
Poise ads to run on EDSBS. Hate hate hate.

Bowl eligibles at this moment include only Alabama, Texas, Florida, BYU, Central Michigan, Iowa, Penn State, Georgia Tech, Pitt, and Cincinnati…. and IDAHO.

I hope Mark Schlereth laughs at Lou Holtz as he passes him in the halls of ESPN this week over that fact…

Hell, LSU had been the Iowa of the SEC until UF showed up.

Addendum: Does anybody here think refs leave Tebow alone on celebration calls not just b/c he’s Tebow, but because he’s white?

JD – The problem with that logic is, if it worked, the BEEEEES would have gotten their brains bashed in yesterday. I’m not saying TAMU can win. But you can’t just do the transitive thing and say “Ta daaaa”

Reaganite – What we need is a national referee pool where crews are made up of officials from all conferences and no crew does the same team twice in year. And yes, more training would be nice.

That Guy – Are you kidding me? Bama’s D-line had to order new jerseys from Nike this morning because USC’s O-line stretched them out so much. The reason Garcia started racking up yardage in the 2nd qtr is because their line figured out they could hold without peril. And I’d be ok with that if it had gone both ways… but it didn’t.

Cal won! It was pretty rad! Kevin Riley was efficient in a pray-for-a-big-play-oh-there-it-is kind of way and Jahvid Best had a 93 yard touchdown run! Tedford got his first win in Los Angeles! And Stanfurd lost too!

I just… you know, thought this thread could use some positivity.

Why couldn’t it have been Oklahoma instead of Arkansas? David Boren’s head would have exploded and hicks with strange and unpleasant accents would be traveling to gainesville with bombs strapped to their chests. In other words, things of beauty and wonder.

Finally we find out what it takes to make Orson to ditch his analytical mind at a Piedmont strip club and start blogging like a ‘Bama fan. “Complain about the officiating as much as you like,” you insipid Ozarks Homers; we did “something right” and you didn’t. Nevermind that if Sturgis makes his first FG, no officiating help is necessary. Nevermind that Orson is saying that blatantly one-sided officiating is only an issue if Arkansas executes perfectly. With teenagers, of course, and don’t forget that most of those teenagers Petrino inherited from Nutt. Nevermind that, without officiating help on Sturgis’ first field goal, the Gators only have a chance to tie on their last drive.

Orson, you’re smart enough to educate us: what exactly did Florida “do right?” Besides showing up in blue and orange, that is? You got nothin’, bra, and you’re more credible admitting it than acting as if your QB didn’t just get some serious Heisman-enhancement from the zebras.

In the end, it looks like this: with the game on the line, the officials gift-wrapped 30% of the Gators’ winning drive. No one can fumble when an official is pacing off penalty yards. The Gators are indeed getting away with it, and more power to you. But you ain’t Iowa; you’re missing far too much fight for that (and for Notre Dame — did you hear they’re “fighers?”).

Please, Orson — have the balls to stand up and say that, despite snorting too much coke off exquisite Vegas hookers, you still know bullshit when you see it. You get the win. You’re on track for an SEC title and a BCS berth. Whence the need to convince us you actually earned it?

@ 82

So Arkansas had all the luck, huh? Is it luck when a DL whips a UF OL and knocks the ball out of Tebow’s hand as his ass is getting dragged to the ground? Is is luck when a UF ball carrier does not properly secure the ball and fumbles?

Arkansas had dropped TD passes, missed receivers in the end zone wide open, etc…yet you say Florida had “no luck” in that game?

Luck bounces both ways. The problem was the the officials clearly favored UF and EVERY CFB forum on the planet acknowledged it. Think of it this way…Arkansas has Texas Longhorn and Ole Miss Rebel fans ALL OVER the internet defending Arkansas and saying Arkansas got robbed. Think about what kind of atrocity it takes for Horns and Rebels to defend the Razorbacks. It was previously unfathomable.

We’re not perfect by any means, but wow, Florida has a lot of work to do. Oh, and we beat Arkansas by four touchdowns and we took a knee in the fourth quarter when we had the ball on their 10 yard line. I know THAT is what is killing the Florida fans today. By the way, we’re #1 in the AP Poll and closing in on you in every other poll. You’d better get to work or Coach Spurrier is going to beat Florida this year.

Enjoy the Outback Bowl. I’m kinda jealous in a way. I’d rather take my kid and wife to Disneyworld instead of Disneyland. Oh well, I’ll find something to do for five days in Southern California when we’re not kicking Texas ass during the National Championship game.

Roll Tide!!!!

Can we please have another comparison of TCU vs. BYU fans for this weeks matchup?

I was at the game and didn’t get to look at those penalties until the replay this morning. The pass interference call was a good call. I hate it when people say “just let them play.” If that is the case lets just say no pass interefence calls in the last two minutes and we will never see an exciting ending to another game ever again (unless of course you have Mark Ingram on your team that guy is a beast). My point is penalties should be called the same throughout the game. The Arkansas defender did not turn around until after he had run into Thompson while the ball was in the air. That is the definition of pass interference in college “contact while the ball is in the air.”

The second penalty? Yeah I don’t know about that one. I didn’t see anything and the ref should have explained it a bit better. Does anyone know what was supposed to have happened? In the end this was a call on first down not a call that kept the drive alive on third down so there really is no telling what might have happened.

@97: Outback Bowl? Maybe if Zook was still in charge (and after watching our offense, he may well be.) At worst, as the #2 SEC we’ll end up playing an undefeated non-BCS team (Boise? TCU?) in the Sugar Bowl, and because my short-term memory is awful, I can’t recall a single instance of the SEC’s second-best team losing under such circumstances.

My opinion can be summed up by my Mom’s comments during the game:

1st Half “We’re putting it to Florida”

End Of Game “The refs gave the game to Florida”

Sha also said “We should send a thank you note to Alabama for showing us how to play football”

Bitchez,

Bad calls are no different than freaky plays (Rainey “kick” fumble, ball not rolling out of endzone). If your team is much better, then they can overcome, if not, than it is a coin flip situation and whining about calls is a moot point because neither team is much better than the other to begin with, hence the coin flip situation.

Like all teams, Florida has been on the bad end of calls (FSU 2003, Tennessee Dallas Baker PF 2004 anyone?) and we bitched too. But, if we had been able to defend a damn Hail Mary against FSU or had a D against UT, we win those games. Blaming the refs may help the weak-minded feel better (It’s not our fault, it’s not our fault), but the honest person knows better. Shit, Miami should have never been in OT against tOSU, but there they were. Anytime a game is close, Refs can totally change the outcome by their calls, but they make the same shitty calls in blowouts too me thinks.

Undoubtedly refs are influenced by home crowd and big name school, but you know what, me no care. I’m sure Arkansas has been turning down that BCS cheese UF, LSU, Georgia, UT, and Bama have been bringing home year after year. Florida used to be the perpetual underachiever but has more than earned her keep since the ’ol Ball Coach arrived.

If you want to be THE MAN, you have to BEAT the Man, don’t let the officials f things up for you.

Wooooooooooo!

knows UF will now lose to Bama on bad call in SEC CG, but also knows that game is AT BEST a coin flip, so see above

Orson:

Hey, know what? It’d be great if we could get a few more posts from you about how undeserving Florida is of a gritty win despite playing their worst game since 2005, in which you put out the welcome mat for all the “OMG refs gave the game to gaytors” folks which make up 90% of your readership. It’s good to see you doing your small part to destroy Florida’s credibility within your sphere of influence.

You, sir, are the most craven, self-loathing, guilt-ridden excuse for a fan on these here internetz. If you don’t actually want your team to win, please go root for Vandy or Wake Forest or some other school where “honor” comes before WINNING.

ATTN ARKANSAS FANS AND AFFILIATED SEC HATERS: your “outrage” has been duly noted, whether of the earnestly-enunciated-conspiracy-theorist or world-wearily-knowing variety. Now grow the fuck up and live with it.

Anyone who says Arkansas had that game taken from them by the refs is a knob-slobbing knuckle-dragger.

EDSBS Text from Last Night:

Me: O-H!
Ex-G/F from Ohio: fuck-you!

Putting “honor” in scare quotes? You have just told us everything we need to know about you, sir.

@106:

’Sooth, I do beg your pardon, milord!

May’st I replace your embroidered handkerchief, which hast surely been sullied by much righteous harrumphing over such coarse assertions as “honor is a sop for trembly old folks and their spiritual like-minded to give them warmth against the reality that the noveau riche are eating their lunch?”

Fucking simple-minded nostalgia-mongers.

#79…

That’s a crock of bullshit, especially considering that the collection of dumbasses masquerading as officials from your mickey mouse conference completely robbed Mississippi State and giftwrapped a win for your boys.

All this bitching about SEC refs would go away if everyone would just stop and watch a replay of Houston at Mississippi State. I actually found myself missing SEC officials that day.

ESMjr – Sir, I know not what affliction wracks your poor soul, but might I suggest a minor dose of perspective?

UF is perched atop the gilded BCS, and she does not ask for your heartburn-promoting rants in her defense. Instead, exhale in happy relief and do not murderously skewer every Florida fan who dares to concede to some notable incompetence on the part of the referees.

Fucking loquacious twit.

@109:

You drooling half-wit cock-worshiper.

The entire point of my heartburn-promoting rants is that we should be enjoying our meaningless BCS ranking (since, barring more O-line play like yesterday’s, we’ll play Bama and sort all that shit out anyway), not bowing and scraping to the internet lynch mob and pre-emptively asking forgiveness for a come-from-behind win in the swamp against a game hogs squad.

For Christ’s sake, if I wanted to read over-the-top “I’m not a homer” half-baked analysis and associated Gator-hating, I’d read Gregg Fucking Doyel.

@110:

And yet, here you are, reading this. Now. To steal some of your language, why don’t you put the dick back in your mouth and get back to doing what you do best? Let the big boys discuss football, while you take care of business.

@111:

Well, I don’t hang around and curse expansively in Doyel’s comment section, because I don’t expect anything better from him.

Orson, when he’s not beating himself (and the entire Gator nation) up for perceived injustices and inviting piling-on from other internet d-bags, really can write like a big boy. On those occasions he doesn’t, I comment. Which is what comment sections are for, I think.

On the other hand, we have your shitty blog, which is an arrow in Buzz Bissinger’s quiver.

@99 Tractorr

I see you didn’t comment on the obvious offensive PI when Cooper mauled the Arkansas defender in the end zone. That no call would have backed UF up to the 50 for a 3rd and long. Instead, you just lined up for a FG. You Florida guys defending these calls are not doing yourself any favors.

No one is saying Arkansas lost the game JUST because of the officiating. Arkansas made as many msitakes as UF in the game. However, having less talent AND having to overcome too many bad calls was too much. UF’s last two scoring drives were aided by ridiculous calls, no calls and spots. UF may have won regardless. The problem is SEC officials should NOT be helping decide games. This is the exact same crew that called the bullshit celebration on AJ Green vs. LSU. I doubt Rogers Redding gives the Monday apology on this one, though, because he will then have to take action against this crew.

All everyone wants is a level playing field and for crews like the one Mark Curles heads up to be disciplined and/or replaced with better officials. That benefits EVERYONE, including Florida.

HAI GUYS!

so yeah Arkansas got fucking jobbed

but who gives a fuck about arkansas, so, now on to more important things: If ala fucking bama gets fucked
even half this bad in the seccg, you’re going to see a fucking war. 2012 type shit. blood everywhere, etc

Tell me again why people hate douchebag UF fans….nevermind.

@114:

Well, this is the real reason (courtesy the boys at Saurian Sagacity):

Florida’s record against each Southeastern Conference team from 1990 to the present:

Alabama 8-4
Arkansas 7-0
Auburn 11-5
Georgia 16-3
LSU 14-5
Kentucky 19-0
Mississippi 3-3
Mississippi State 5-3
South Carolina 16-1
Tennessee 14-6
Vanderbilt 17-0

Total 130-30

There’s your douchebag right there.

I promise to try not to complain about crappy SEC refs ever again if they would just admit publicly that, although Tebow has had more excessive celebration and taunting escapades than just about any player in the NCAA, they will never call him on it because he is Tim Tebow. If they would just admit that when a team plays UF, they are dealing with two sets of rules, I would accept the inevitable and pray for the best my team could do.

Mike Slive need to quit sippin that Admiral Nielson. Gotta get at least a 4.1 share at da WLOCP.

Well, what did we learn on Saturday?

The SECCG will feature, maybe, Bama vs Florida in a game where turnovers and bad ref calls will give way to a bunch of Tebow Smash vs Ingram in the Wildcat, for a 9-6 FG fest and with both teams having over 300 yrds rushing since both defenses and offenses seem to cancel each other out in the red zone, and whoever gets to 9 first wins. Dont even know who that will be……Hopefully by that time we will have Javy on defense and returning punts, although Julios stiff arm was pretty fun to watch.
All I know is that Bama better get it together this weekend on offense, mainly passing. Ingram and Richardson are solid RB’s, but I dont want to use em up and get them killed before that game. WE used to have a receiver named Julio Jones…….wonder what happened to that guy? Oh yeh, if you triple cover him on a GO route, usually leaves the running game WIDE OPEN……..also helps if the QB could find a receiver and be ON TARGET……
Also, I think the whole Florida thing is overblown…..I think many people have watched the UF-Michigan Bowl game and have come to realize that if you get to Tebow and harass him, you can get him outta rhythm a bit, and play physical, you can beat the Gators. That was the only game I saw where the Gators were outplayed on a physical level. And Michigan should have hung 50 on them that day……long story short…..many SEC defenses have caught up to Urban Meyer,plus no Louis Murphy and Percy Harvin…..and no Dan Mullen…….which makes it a WHOLE LOT EASIER TO SCHEME FOR FLORIDA, they were who we thought they were, and the FG kicker let em off the Hook! The Florida Offense used to be the hot guy at the beach who could pull any chick they wanted to off the beach into the condo in record time,…now being reduced simply as the old creepy guy at the VFW getting turned down by 45 yr old grandmas who still wear thong underwear..

Wow! and tonight, my insomnia serves me well! as usual, Mr. Pelican Pants sticks (admittedly!) to the point of game analysis, and is (admittedly) perfectly on point- per the GAME. I admit, I have adapted Mr. PP’s “What have we learned” construct to bring many real-world scenarios into perfect, much-needed clarity (sadly, some of these scenarios have included business meetings). Kudos.
but, really, after catching up on the comments (admittedly) in the “90-100s”, I have to give props to this (and Kevin@LSU wins!):
Kevin@LSU says:
EDSBS Text from Last Night:
Me: O-H!
Ex-G/F from Ohio: fuck-you!"
you, sir, Win! (what, I do not know) but for hip, timely humor, and perfectly melding “social media” with futbawl- tip o’ the hat! if we were in the same room, time zone, I’d buy you an over-priced tiny-homebrew-with-great-local-following beer.
as always, thanks EDSBS.

The only thing that was worse than the officiating was the forced ManLove story between McCoy and Bradford.

I never thought it would be possible to have something more gay than the JJ Reddick-Adam Morrison courtship.

But they surpassed that. Especially with the “competition” in the Cotton Bowl. The ping pong was riveting.

I don’t know which is worse, the SEC refs, or that pussy ESMjr trying to act all high and mighty.

Damn, you learn something new every day. I had no idea Florida only starting playing SEC teams in 1990. Who woulda thunk?

Selective douchery at its finest.

Florida’s record against each Southeastern Conference team from 1990 to the present:

Alabama 8-4
Arkansas 7-0
Auburn 11-5
Georgia 16-3
LSU 14-5
Kentucky 19-0
Mississippi 3-3
Mississippi State 5-3
South Carolina 16-1
Tennessee 14-6
Vanderbilt 17-0

Total 130-30

There’s your douchebag right there.

I HAVE ACHIEVED “WORSE THAN SEC REFS STATUS.”

I IMAGINE THIS IS WHAT UNICRON FEELS LIKE.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, POST SOMETHING NEW!
 i’m going to have that f!@#king song stuck in my head every time i see a glass of booze!
driving me crazy!