Hey! Remember that time Texas lost to Texas Tech, and then a couple weeks later Oklahoma creamed Tech by about 100 points?

I guess they don’t remember that in Austin.

I think the DUI laws from 2007 have an asterisk next to them also.

It’s worth noting that Texas* isn’t just claiming the Big 12 South here, but the entire Big 12. If this were just a list of division titles, then it would include 2001. Apologists may say that if UT* claims the South, they might as well claim the whole thing because they beat the North participant, Missouri, earlier in 2008, right? Well, they beat Colorado earlier in 2001 before losing to them in the championship game rematch. (That’s why you play the game.) Mack Brown* or whoever else is responsible for this* might as well claim the national championship because they surely would have beaten Florida if given the chance*.

• denotes bullshit.

I gotta agree with westbrooke. I have nothing against Texas, other than I think their ginormous scoreboard is kinda tacky, but this claiming assumed wins is ridiculous and bush league. You either won the thing officially or you didn’t.

And we Gator fans know from not officially winning things, as Orson noted.

It’s Texas; reality isn’t their strong suit.

I wonder if, technically, all three, OU, UT, and TT, can claim a Big-12 South championship for 2008? The verbiage is vague, but it appears the tie-breaker just determines which team represents the division in the championship game, not which one was the one and only winner of the division.
In fact, the cfbdatawarehouse lists all three as Big-12 South champs, so that’s as official as it gets.

But…but…we WERE “First in the SEC”. We would only be as lame if we had painted “SEC CHAMPS*” up there…which we should have for 1984…cause I still have the Coke bottles that show we were CHAMPS!!!

They must have gotten this idea from T.K. Wetherell and his masterful use of the “alternate universe” brand of football record keeping.

The Longhorns join A&M in claiming bullshit history and mythical championships. A&M claims a split-decision NC in ‘39, and UT claims a win in a completely fabricated CC in 2008. Tech should get point for accepting the fact that they weren’t the best team at the end of the year and not making up crap like this.

Well, this is similar to Ole Miss claiming an SEC West Co-Division Championship in 2003 even though there is that pesky matter of losing the ultimate tiebreaker, playing your opponent on the field & getting outscored by them.

But hey! Same record equals a championship too. I just don’t see why more teams don’t claim a co-championship when finishing 2nd in anything.

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After UF had to forfeit its win over us from 1980, that made Starksville the Ess-Eee-Cee FB Champs, but we never asked for or tried to claim it.

In the last 40 years all Ole Pi$$ can show in major sports is one baseball tourney title, one shared SEC West basketball (with us) and one SEC basketball tourney trophy. Zero in FB.

They did have a great swimming team back in 1970, however, when they were caught assigning swimmin’ schollys to baseball players. Their 1971 annual has a great pic of a fully geared baseball team in a drained pool. At least they had a sense of humor back then.

Up next, Auburn fans show up to mewl about that thing in 2004 and to brag about the installation of the biggest f’in asterisk in the universe atop Jordan-Hare. You can see it from space and everything.

A lot of people are misunderstanding what this is. From an insider:

‘The point of the 2008 w/ an asterisk in the private confines of the Texas meeting room has nothing to do w/ “claiming” the Big XII Championship and everything to do w/ reminding the kids that if you don’t finish every game strong, that’s all you end up with…..an asterisk…..an eternal reminder of what might have been. That footnote on the wall doesn’t signify simply a lost Big XII title, but a lost MNC. That’s beaten into these kids regularly. “You put your destiny in the hands of someone else when you failed to finish every play at Tech. And, what’d that get you? The opportunity to sit at home and watch 2 inferior teams duke it out for OUR conference title, then watch one of them go and lay a goose egg in OUR national championship game.”’

I honestly don’t remember UF having to forfeit any wins for our transgressions in the mid-80s…I do remember having to lose our 1984 SEC Championship and being ineligible to win another title….or go to a bowl game…or appear on television…for the remainder of our probation. Grrrrrrrrr…..

this is sooooooooo much better than the “texas state champions” rings that mack gave his team a few years ago

Yoyofootbaw,

Wow, another Mississippi State fan who defines his existence on being the anti-Ole Miss. Hell, even your username is a jab at Ole Miss. Oh, and Ole Pi$$? I thought that went out of style in Starkville years ago. It’s all the rage in Fayetteville right now though.

I will say though, the co-champs banner is pretty embarrassing.

Big 12 Football = Land of whiny bitches.

Texas = Queen of the whiny bitches.

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A bama fan criticising anyone esle of claiming MNCs is like Bill Clinton giving a lecture about infidelity.

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read carefully Marcus… Texas* is claiming the BigXII championship for the entire conference as if they played in, and won, the Big XII championship game.

I have no problem with Texas* claiming a BigXII South co-championship (which they are also doing), but to insinuate that they won a game in which they did not participate is moronic.

1. I have so much to say about what your insider said:

The point of the 2008 w/ an asterisk in the private confines of the Texas meeting room has nothing to do w/ "claiming" the Big XII Championship
Really? then why not put 2007 on the wall? and 2006 when they had previously beaten both participants? and 2004 when one loss kept them out of the title game?

and everything to do w/ reminding the kids that if you don’t finish every game strong, that’s all you end up with…..an asterisk actually you end up with an ‘L’

That footnote on the wall doesn’t signify simply a lost Big XII title, but a lost MNC.
If they truly belive that, then why didnt they put " 2008* " under their National Titles column?

The opportunity to sit at home and watch 2 inferior teams duke it out for OUR conference title,
it stopped being YOUR conference title the second Crabtree stepped into the endzone.

then watch one of them go and lay a goose egg in OUR national championship game.
whatever… OU played just fine.

@CincySooner

Agreed. As motivational strategies go, this seems particularly poorly thought out and crying out for ridicule. Worse, it feels more like stroking an inflated sense of entitlement than providing a reminder to give 100% effort. Texas* could have accomplished the former by posting “45-35” in the locker room or the latter by posting “39-33” and avoided convincing everyone else that they’ve completely lost their grip.

When has Texas* ever not been about “stroking an inflated sense of entitlement” ?

And….isn’t laying a goose egg being shut out? Those little bitches at The University of Texas* in Asterisk can’t even talk smack right anymore.

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In addition to Ole Missy, I just love poking holes in the Gamechicks too. Both are such great pompous targets with near to zero accomplishments. UM does have one bone fiide NC in FB but the other two they claim are of dubiuous merit. Also, Vaught/UM would not play Bear in those days.

Deep down, we Starksville rednecks know what we are – good ol boys who are happy with the occasional 10-2 and a bowl game otherwise. Demographics dictate that’s our lot in SEC life. Except in basketball and especially baseball, where we always expect more and usually get there.

That’s a mighty big wall for very few numbers, asterisk or not. Mack either has ambitious plans for the future or they’ve built themselves a nice spot for ShaggyBevo to do more MS Paint drawings.

“Also, Vaught/UM would not play Bear in those days.”

It’s disputed as to who actually wouldn’t play who because John Vaught’s Ole Miss teams seriously challenged Alabama just about every time they played them. Vaught’s record against Bryant was 5-6-1 so it’s not as if we never played them and/or had our asses handed to us when we did.