CATHOLICS VERSUS CONVICTS OHHHH YEAHHHH
Presenting a matchup so retro one should be forced to watch it with a pair of hot-orange Oakleys on and while wearing a well-gelled mullet: Notre Dame and Miami are considering re-upping for their rivalry game, a series that has been on hiatus since a three-game stretch in 1987-1990 and was dubbed “Catholics versus Convicts,” an unfair accusation towards Miami in so many ways. (Probation is a totally different thing, and if you’d ever done anything fun enough in your life to get arrested for it, you’d know that.)
We’d watch it even if Miami in the 2000s has been less Miami, and more “Clemson With Skin Cancer” since joining the ACC. (Similarly put, Notre Dame would just have be “Notre Dame, but with a lingering bone cancer.)
Notre Dame AD Jack Swarbrick shows off his flair for bland but simultaneously inaccurate rhetoric in describing the matchup on more than just a football level:
Playing Miami is appealing, Swarbrick said, because “they are two great academic institutions. We’re eager to play schools that share our values. There’s a lot of great history around the games.”
We weren’t aware of Notre Dame’s declared love for chunky asses and teetering donks, and was equally ignorant of Miami’s fondness for cold weather and overpaying coaches. There’s no set date on it yet, but talks will resume in April to figure out which slots in Notre Dame’s remaining contract with NBC–good through 2015!–can accommodate the game. If it features anything like converting 3rd and 43 from your own goalline, it will be worth any trouble you care to go through to make it happen.









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Harris says:
If I was an AD making a list of schools with which I’d like to share values, Miami wouldn’t be on it. Also, fuck you for that clip, Orson.
March 18th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
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zzgator says:
I like the way the receiver pushes his teammate away in order to continue his solitary glory seeking behavior.
Ahhh…Miami.
March 18th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
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Orson Swindle says:
That is Randall “The Thrill” hill, sir. He’d want you to know that.
March 18th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
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yoyofutbawl says:
Only 4 DBs in the game??? What was Dr Lou expecting Miami to run? The fullback belly series they were so famous for running on 3rd and forever way back when?
Real Men Of Genius salute you, Coach Holtz.
March 18th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
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zzgator says:
Oh I heard his name…just refused to give him the attention he so clearly seeks by using it.
March 18th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
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Brian O'Blivion says:
Randal Hill is the reason that the celebration penalty has become fucking fascist in college football. He ruined it for everyone.
March 18th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
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Big Jon says:
For a second I wondered how a team gets to 3rd and 43, but it’s as if I could hear the voice over the loudspeaker echo throughout the Orange Bowl. Personal foul oul oul…on the offense ense ense….
Some people say college football is better/more interesting when Notre Dame/Alabama are relevant. Bullshit. What the world needs now is Da U and all their delicious swagger.
March 18th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
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Michael says:
#4 beat me to it: kudos to Lou Holtz (and Barry Alvarez?) for having seven in the box against a four-wide formation on third and 43. That would have been a touchdown with a better throw.
Also, you have to love Notre Dame deciding to restart the rivalry with Miami because they are a peer institution (programs that were once good and are now irrelevant?) that shares ND’s values. Their public rationale for killing what was turning into a great rivalry in the late 80s was that they wanted to play peer institutions and Miami wasn’t one. I guess Miami wasn’t a peer when they were really good and they’re now a peer when the Emerald Bowl is the norm.
March 18th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
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zzgator says:
Hey Big Jon…not sure a man who poses like this in a photo…
http://forums.gatorsports.com/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/9391017558/inlineimg/Y/2u7663r.jpg
is the man to bring back that swagger.
Just sayin’.
March 18th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
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White Speed Receiver says:
I never understood the nickname of this series. Is it because of the large hispanic population in Miami, which one could assume is largely Catholic?
March 18th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
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Geaux Irish says:
1) After the Charlie Weis / Pepper the Dolphin post, you just had to put in that YouTube clip from ‘89. Gee, thanks for that O. There should be an equally painfun clip of either a) the failed 2-pt conversion by UM in ‘88 or b) Rocket returning a kick for 90 yards in ‘90.
2) The series between ND and Miami actually started before ‘87. It was only relevant when ND stopped rolling over for 56 pts.
3) Back to the YouTube: Lou’s sporting the nice combo of white shirt, blue pants, white socks and black shoes.
March 18th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
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sb says:
ND and scUM…interestingly enough, two schools whose head coaches are at the top of their game…their game being the garnering of extensive ridicule. It’s nice to be on top isn’t it?
March 18th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
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yoyofutbawl says:
8
Mucho gracias. Yes, Alvarez was probably in his last year w/ Loooou. On another note, wasn’t Swindle’s fav coach at UM back then, the lovable Dennis E.?
As Forrest Gump would say, these two schools go together like peas & carrots.
March 18th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
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lifelongirish says:
It depresses me that the last time Notre Dame was relevant in college football was when mulletts and fades were in fashion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcRNUFbwPiE&feature=PlayList&p=B8D6FAF7AEE22B22&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=31
March 18th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
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BuckeyeDomer says:
Thanks for that clip Orson. Needless to say, I much prefer the clip below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT9xW8fnj8I
March 18th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
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BJ says:
Since Randy Shannon makes more than minimum wage, UM over-pays for him. I’d say he is worth less than minimum wage, but he has to get paid for showing up.
March 18th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
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Mr. Pelican Pants says:
I think it will be a nice game on a JV level. They both have decent young talent.
I think Miami is ahead of ND in that learning curve, though.
March 18th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
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Rawk says:
I hope AD Kriby Hocutt at Miami is taking great pleasure at being on the verge of setting up the matchup that former AD Paul Dee failed to make happen despite trying every single year.
March 18th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
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oc phil says:
I’m glad the Notre Dame can manage to fit Miami into that tight schedule full of all those vital games against the likes of San Diego State, Washington State and Syracuse.
March 18th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
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JD says:
That play looks like when you pause NCAA 09 to go take a dump, except you didn’t actually pause it, and when you come out it’s 1st and 76 at your own 1-yard line.
March 18th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
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www.southbendblarney.com says:
It’s funny, but I remember reading a quote from an ND player from that era saying something like: “Miami was called the convicts, be we were worse than they were.” I believe linebacker Demetrious Dubose filled out the obligatory “Where do you want to be in 10 years” questionnaire with the answer-”alive”. Just shows that the school used to be willing to let some guys in that may not fit the “Notre Dame” profile (to help win), and I don’t know that they’re willing to do that anymore.
March 19th, 2009 at 8:20 am
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Skittlebrow says:
This matchup likely won’t happen anyway unless Jack Swarbrick can change the ridiculous 7-4-1 scheduling system set up by the terrible previous AD, or he can get out of some contracts with other schools. Notre Dame doesn’t have any available home-and-home slots in their schedule for many years to come.
ND actually had a 2nd and 47 this year, possibly against Syracuse. It was first and goal and then all of a sudden it was 2nd and goal from the other side of mid field. After failing to convert 3rd and half the field, we punted I think.
March 19th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
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Papa Lou BSU says:
“Their public rationale for killing what was turning into a great rivalry in the late 80s was that they wanted to play peer institutions and Miami wasn’t one. I guess Miami wasn’t a peer when they were really good and they’re now a peer when the Emerald Bowl is the norm.”
Not to take up for the Domers here, but everyone on both sides knew why that series was cancelled, and everyone knew that no one could say said reason publicly: the series had so much bad blood that it had become completely out-of-hand off the field, and had become a massive safety issue (South Bend’s city fathers were not keen on the increase in fan violence and vandalism that weekend, and neither team’s fan base was too keen with some of the mistreatment that went on in and around both stadia… I’ve met some older ND fans who still speak of some of the horror stories they encountered getting to and from the OB on the aforementioned evening in ‘89).
I attended one of the games in South Bend when I was in h.s., and I can fully attest that some of the stuff that went down in the parking lots and in the concourses would be the subject of ten-part “Outside the Lines” exposes if they occurred today…
Personally, I think ND’s willingness to re-engage with the ‘Canes has more to do with Miami moving out of the Orange Bowl and out by the interstate than the current fortunes of either program. I was told back in the early 90’s by a Domer relative that ND’s brass was absolutely not taking their travel party back to the OB under any circumstances after the ‘89 game, and damned if they didn’t apparently stick to that.
March 19th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
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JD says:
#21:
“I believe linebacker Demetrious Dubose filled out the obligatory ‘Where do you want to be in 10 years’ questionnaire with the answer-’alive’.
Fuck, he didn’t even get THAT question right.
March 20th, 2009 at 12:04 am