CURIOUS INDEX, 1/27/09
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LSUFreek has metaphors. Many of them.
Take Mark Sanchez as one egg and Ryan Perrilloux as another, and then read Mandel’s bit musing on their two very, very divergent paths, and then hyperventilate into a bag and remember this object lesson when a CAN’T MISS running back or quarterback “may be hedging!” or decommitting from your school. They’re eggs. Some of them break. Some of them get fried. And some become badass chickens with disemboweling talons. Well, why didn’t you tell us that. Terrelle Pryor was ducking out of bounds and wobbly on many of his passes against Texas in the Fiesta Bowl due to a sprained shoulder sustained in practice leading up to the game, forcing his coaches to advise against “unnecessary contact” and putting Todd Boeckman in the game more than boggled, objective bystanders would have imagined possible. (To his credit, Boeckman played well, and not just “well-for-Todd-Boeckman-well,” an entirely different term altogether.) Drinking in Utah is forbidden by firing squad. Unless you’re Jim McMahon. Did Manti Te’o, highly sought after outside linebacker recruitand obvious next member of USC’s Hair Bear Bunch Series of mightily maned Polynesian slammers at linebackers, drink while he was at Provo on a recruiting trip? And if so, does this discovery of alcohol indicate the discovery of Jim McMahon’s long lost beer stash, buried in the mountains surrounding the BYU campus for over twenty five years now? Six-oh. Dan Mullen has six of Mississippi’s top ten recruits. Houston Nutt’s total? GIGGITY, or in other words, none. Gunga Dan may lack Houston Nutt’s ability to mesmerize, but he doesn’t sleep much, and that seems to be important, too. Thank you, Tim, you shameless homer. Tim Brando interviews Sam Bradford. Homervision, on! Q: Would it be accurate to say there wasn’t as much space between defensive backs and receivers against Florida than what you were used to seeing? A: I think that would be accurate. They were a very good defense; they were very fast, but they were very sound. They rarely got out of position, and they had guys accounting for all of our receivers, especially when we got the tailback out of the backfield. It seemed like they always had a linebacker spying or waiting on him when he left the backfield. |
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Jesus says:
Think back to when you were a senior year in high school and visited friends/relatives in college. You didn’t just drink; you pounded a variety of liquors, liqueurs, beers and animal tranqs until you vomited all over yourself, faceplanted into a car bumper and woke up on a sidewalk hemorrhaging from the forehead. With your pants down. And sharpie penises all over your bloody face and exposed asscheeks. Oh that was just me?
Well either way, that night was a good reason why I chose to stay away from the University of Missouri and the reckless heathens that inhabit it.
January 27th, 2009 at 10:16 am
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yoyofutbawl says:
Thank you Gator Nation for Coach Mullen. Seeing as we got [NAME REDACTED] fired and brought 2 NCs & TEE-BAW to you, we deserve Urban’s first born as repayment.
January 27th, 2009 at 10:28 am
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allow me to retort... says:
So the ‘05 class had busts, but ’06’s top 5 had Stafford, Tebow and Mustain (who’ll start at USC right?). Not too shabby…
January 27th, 2009 at 10:36 am
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TJ says:
A: Yes, it was more difficult playing a team that actually covered our receivers. I wasn’t used to that.
January 27th, 2009 at 10:38 am
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softbatch says:
“nothing that I would feel comfortable printing as of yet.”
Oh, come on. I want to hear about BYU girls’ romancing each other.
January 27th, 2009 at 10:43 am
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ChasingMizzou says:
Gold Plate Beer?
January 27th, 2009 at 10:47 am
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meatybob says:
I know that misses happen at every position, but do other positions like OL and DE has such a high failure rate? I wouldn’t think so since “food goes in here” dominates more of their gray matter, but I thought I would ask.
January 27th, 2009 at 10:47 am
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Coop says:
Houston Nutt, winning impressively with someone else’s players, then his lack of recruiting prowess brings him back to mediocrity or worse. I have seen this move before. Good to very good coach, terrible recruiter.
Coach O stocked Ole Miss very well, relatively speaking, and Nutt will leverage the O’s efforts into 5-8 years in Oxford, maybe more if a freak like McFadden is currently at a middle school in Jackson or Natchez.
This time he will have to contend with another SEC school in state, but cherrypickers like Tennessee always mined Arkansas well, just as Alabama, Auburn, and LSU will continue to do in MS.
January 27th, 2009 at 10:51 am
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Mr. Pelican Pants says:
Wow, then is should be really easy to recruit BYU. No beer? Forget that.
My first impulse after seeing those eggs, was, “I wonder if I can get all 3 fried, and on a biscuit?”
Great, StarkVegas has Mullen, and he is trying to flip the script on Giggity. I don’t know if I am comfortable with 2 good Mississippi teams. If the state of mississippi is like alabama when one team is up the other team is down
January 27th, 2009 at 10:56 am
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oc phil says:
Allow @ 3: Mustain has a good shot at starting next year, but Corp was the #2 guy in the Rose bowl, so it is hardly a foregone conclusion. And then Matt Barkley is in the mix too, he was a 4 year starter in HS (where he directly followed Matt Lienart). Carroll definitely has a pattern of going with guys who have been in the system longer as the starting QB, but he has enrolled early and will be competing for the job in spring ball as well.
Te’o would certainly fit into the USC program well at linebacker.
January 27th, 2009 at 11:10 am
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NDEddiemac says:
Come on O, ND took the whole team on a recruiting trip to go see Manti, at least say he’s gonna go to UCLA and let me down easy. SC getting the last crack this weekend before NSD is flat out demoralizing.
January 27th, 2009 at 11:12 am
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yoyofutbawl says:
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You can always go to the old signees listings on scout or rivals for 2005, 2006, etc. and compare to the current depth charts at each school.
With only 85 grants available, if you sign 25/yr for a 5 yr period (redshirting 70-75%, say 2 transfers/yr in), you have a 25-30% built in attrition rate.
January 27th, 2009 at 11:32 am
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TheGhostofJayCutler says:
Do you know how many of Ole Miss’ this recruits are from the State of MS total? Six.
That’s it and that’s all. Look, the plain truth is that MS kids have a pretty horrible record of qualifying so HDN has looked elsewhere. Our top commits right now are from IL and FL. We should be bringing in some more from places as far away as MD.
Also, The Walrus himself said that success on the field needs a year to translate into recruiting success. He said this to defend his poor recruiting after State’s 8-win season last year and, well, it looks like he was right. OM hadn’t been to a bowl in 4 years and Croom had tricked the world into thinking State was going to be something to reckon with. Nutt came into a terrible, terrible recruiting situation as far as the State of MS is concerned. Hopefully (fingers crossed, holy water sprinkled, crops laid upon stone altar) it will improve over the next couple of seasons.
January 27th, 2009 at 11:36 am
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RaginCajunRebel says:
Coop: don’t let your hate blind you, sir. Nutt’s two big questions that he faced when going to Ole Miss: could he recruit well and would he allow his Assistants to coach? Well, Nutt is putting together a strong class at Ole Miss right now, and obviously he’s letting Austin do big things. We ran 4 and 5 sets most of the Cotton Bowl…not exactly the “run all the time Nutt” that Arky fans cried about before.
It’s retarded to think that a coach can’t change at a different school. And as for MSU “dominating” the state in recruiting: Orgeron did that at Ole Miss, but most of the Mississippi kids didn’t qualify. That’s going to continue to be a problem. Ole Miss got out recruited for maybe two kids this year, but that’s mostly because these kids can come in and play right away at State, whereas they would have to wait around at Ole Miss. I just love how Arkansas fans are soooo sure that Nutt will drive us into “mediocrity”, when they have a coach who could barely beat Directional Illinois last year.
Thanks for the coach. We’re happy.
January 27th, 2009 at 11:37 am
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Gen. Stoopnagle says:
The whole McMahon’s stash item reminded me of the oft-overlooked gem from Kevin Costner “Fandango” where he and his college buddies recover “Dom” from hiding in Mexico before they all ship off to hiding or Vietnam.
“Dom” tasted like shit, by the way. Burying champagne in Mexican deserts to season for 4 years is not good policy.
January 27th, 2009 at 11:50 am
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Coop says:
You seem to be forgetting that Croom was fired this year. The former Florida OC swooped in and kept all those commitments and added a couple, too. Granted, Croom’s firing caught many off guard, but Nutt and crew should have been all over those kids during the year, reminding them that if Croom was not let go after this year, he would be in a year or two.
The above is just not common. Obviously, Ole Miss missed an outstanding opportunity. And, it speaks more to who is running the show in the recruiting department.
And, again, I just cannot say this enough, Alabama, Auburn, and LSU will continue to go through your state when they want to.
No, you are not going to be successful in the SEC West relying on kids, even the best ones, from Illinois and 2-3 star Florida kids who did not receive offers from the Big 3. Also, remember where MSU’s new coach came from? Just like Tubs at Auburn, something tells me he will have more than his fair share of connections in Florida.
At least Nutt could argue that he was the only game in town in Arkansas, for kids wanting to stay close to home, even though the state of Arkansas is not that deep of a recruiting pool.
January 27th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
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RaginCajunRebel says:
Coop: I think you’re missing the point. Ole Miss only recruited 2 or maybe 3 of these kids hard. In all honesty, we really only went after Cox and Bumphis. Thames was recruited, but not hard, as he’s not projected to qualify. Other than that, this “top” talent that State is getting isn’t that top. We had little to no interest in Russell, especially after we got in the driver’s seat for Cotton.
Yes, Croom was fired this year, and had there been that many kids we were targeting we would have been more “all over” them. Signing day is a week away, let’s see how much of an “outstanding opportunity” we’ve missed out on at that time.
And as for the three start Florida kids without offers from the “Big 3″: you mean like Dexter McCluster? Recruiting trash talk is retarded, and I can’t believe I’m wasting my time with it.
I do love how Arkansas fans are just so certain that Nutt will do the exact same thing at Ole Miss as he did at Arkansas. If that’s the case, then Petrino will leave your team in shambles mid-season next year, Mullen will turn Russell into the next Tebow, Chizic won’t win a game at Auburn, and Kiffin will be fired and cry about it on TV. I don’t think any of that will happen.
The past is only a partial indicator of the future. Get over your obsession with Nutt and focus on how awesome Arkansas is going to be this year. After all, the only thing between ya’ll and multiple National Championships was Houston Nutt. So now with him gone, y’all should be in a BCS bowl game in no time, right?
January 27th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
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Coop says:
My response was more to the Vandy/Ole Miss fan, but since you decided to respond:
There is no perfect positive correlation between recruiting rankings/projections and success on the field. We all agree on that. However, I think you would agree that the more highly touted kids you sign out of high school, the more likely the probabiltiy that you will have success on the field. This could be a self-fulfilling prophecy because the best coaches, Urban Meyer or Pete Carroll, sign highly touted guys and develop them but, especially at skill positions like RB or WR, talent will bring itself to light no matter where you are.
Regarding the last sentence, I doubt Jerry Rice had the best WR coaching at MVS, but he certainly overcame.
Anyway, back to my point. I am looking at Ole Miss’ signees from ‘08 and your verbals for ‘09. You have something like 4-5 4 stars, according to Rivals, and one 5 star (Davis).
Granted, Nutt’s class last year was a C/O, but given that the man is going to sign approximatley 27 or so this year, where is Brian Cook, and this class is littered with 2 and 3 stars…
draw you own conclusions.
Maybe it was a down year in the state of Mississippi, and I agree that even in a good year there is not enough quality talent in the state to win the SEC West for one school, but I don’t see how any Ole Miss fan can be satisfied with this recruiting class.
And, dissatisfaction seems to be a common theme when it comes to Nutt’s recruiting results in the past.
But, y’all are right, maybe things will change.
January 27th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
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TheGhostofJayCutler says:
I was going to say something like “the guys that State had committed were at positions which we already had strong leads/leans or commits from so we didn’t really need to waste time going after them,” but RaginCajunReb took care of that for me.
Not only that, but he pointed out the folly of recruiting smack. As an Ole Miss fan who closely observed the Ed Orgeron “era,” I am well aware of recruiting smack’s true purpose: to give the fans of losing schools something about which to brag.
We could sign a bunch of 2.5 stars for all I care, so long as we get it done on the field. I think the Utes would agree to that one.
January 27th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
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Mr. Pelican Pants says:
#19
Lets see where the Utes end up this year and next year, and where Alabama ends up the next 2 years….I am sure the Alabama team that got beat by Utah will be going in a totally different direction than where Utah is headed…
January 27th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
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Marty says:
Credit to Mullen for keeping them, but Crooms deserves the credit for winning the mississippi recruiting battle
January 27th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
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www.southbendblarney.com says:
We all know McMahon didn’t leave a stash of beer, he drank most of it, and used the rest to make the nice Morman women take their clothes off…
January 27th, 2009 at 10:01 pm