RICK REILLY THINKS UTAH IS THE ONLY NATIONAL CHAMP
Rick Reilly hates us, and that’s fine. If no one hates you you’re either doing something wrong, or you’re Willie Nelson, who everyone loves because he’s fuzzy, contantly high, and still wearing the same headband he put on in 1974. (Because there’s weed in it..)
Since the job of Willie Nelson is still taken, we assume being hated by someone means you’re doing something right. Also, we never read Reilly growing up and don’t read him now, since he largely comes from the school of hackneyed one-liners (occasionally scoring) and the aesthetic of Mitch Albom’s School for Guys Who Ponder the Beauty of Life, Put One Hand on Cheek, and Lean On Said Hand Wistfully. Pat “Fucking” Jordan drinks his milkshake anyday; P.J. O’Rourke leaves him in pieces in a carefully submerged bag in Haulover Sound.
Anyway, he’s being paid an astonishing amount of money to write one 800 word column a week. Too Short approves of this being paid 10Gs just to breathe on the mike, but Oliver Wendell Holmes wants a motherfucking word with you about your con law:
Call Myles Brand, president of the asleep-at-the-wheel NCAA, and ask him if he and his greedy presidents are going to stand in defiance of president-elect Barack Obama, who wants a playoff and wants it yesterday.
Rick Reilly is obviously a fan of the Unitary Executive theory of the President’s role in the Constitution, since he thinks–typing atop a pile of gold bullion while phoning John Yoo on the matter–that the President can force a playoff.
Us as David Frost: “Are you saying what you did wasn’t illegal?”
Reilly, clad in jowled foam rubber makeup: “I’M SAYING THE PRESIDENT CAN MAKE ROCK CANDY APPEAR FROM THE RECTUM OF A UNICORN IF HE WANTS!”
It’s flabbergasting to think this made it past the plausibility meter of anyone with a passing familiarity with what the President does, but two things are more galling. First, Myles Brand isn’t greedy yet, because wresting control of the BCS from the hands of the “greedy” would put it into the hands of…um…the “benevolent” Brand? Because he’s king of college sport land, and would rule with a fair and even hand?
We don’t want to defend the BCS, but this is a cartel. Cartels are brutal, unfair, and in principle foul creatures. So are dictators. If, through eight improbable steps, the NCAA ever became involved in the BCS on a serious level, that is precisely what you would have. Call it the Voltron Theory: what Reilly wants is a giant robot to come screaming from the sky and set everything right by cutting a Robeast or two in half. Thinking that either Barack Obama or Myles Brand could or should set anything right about this system is–and this is the kindest word we can use to describe it and read it in your best Christopher Hitchens voice–fatuous.
(BTW, you owe Reilly 900 bucks for that excerpt. And we’re not even going to talk about John Feinstein’s piece on the BCS. The word “fucktarded” can only be typed so many times before your fingers cramp.)










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3L over the line, sweet jesus says:
Do you have a law degree or something?
January 7th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
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Orson Swindle says:
No, but we’ve gotten drunk with a lot of lawyers. Also, we love John Yoo, because when we get elected President, he says it’s okay if we waterboard John Yoo because we’re the President!
January 7th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
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Sundawg says:
Orson, why aren’t you at a open-air tailgate party somewhere enjoying our beautiful South Florida weather instead of responding to morons on the interweb?
January 7th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
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Orson Swindle says:
That’s penciled in for later. Currently doing column.
January 7th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
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Dave(not that one, the other one) says:
You could probably create a Macro for typing Fucktard to solve the hand crampage deal.
January 7th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
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Kecalf Bailey says:
You know a team does not deserve a national championship when no one who is arguing for them to be champs will come out and say they are the best team in the country.
You don’t beat the #4 team in the country and get to leapfrog 5 spots to #1 (Unless you are Notre Dame, at least).
Any intelligent person can see that the National Champion should be whoever was ranked #1 the most.
13, BITCHES!! ROLL SABAN TAHD BUDWEISER NAT’L CHAMPS 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 7th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
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OhioDawg says:
Feinstein may be public radio’s answer to Bayless; even the way he says good bye to the host when he does his piece sounds condescending. The mid-majors create a problem. It seems like a World Series that included really good AAA teams.
Orson, is 3L over a friend of yours?
January 7th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
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CincySooner says:
Kang: “By the rules of your own election system, you must elect either Oklahoma or Florida as national champion”
Rick Rielly: “We don’t have to. I, for one, am going to vote independant.”
Kodos: “Go ahead, throw away your vote.”
Kang and Kodos: “Hahahahahahah!!!”
January 7th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
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PeterPumpkinhead says:
Umm… maybe I failed to read between the lines there, but I didn’t see him say anything about Obama declaring a playoff as LAW… his fallacy seems to be in thinking Brand has anything to do with controlling the BCS.
And while he may be a lazy, retarded no-talent ass-clown… he is right about Utah. Texas’s win over Ohio State was unimpressive (it was fun, cause it happened late, but OSU sucks in bowl games and they barely beat them). USC lost to the other OSU, and Utah beat them. Utah also beat TCU, didn’t they? And finally they beat the dog mess out of an Alabama team that led Florida in the fourth quarter of the SEC Championship game… and Utah finished undefeated in a league that owned both the bowls and the PAC-10 in the regular season… you know, the PAC-10 that gets an automatic BCS birth
Fucktards like Cowherd can say USC would rip them a new one all they want, but that’s what everyone said about Alabama two weeks ago.
They’re undefeated. They played as tough a schedule as at least half of the BCS teams who would be in the MNCG if they had gone undefeated. They should get the big shiny trophy.
January 7th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
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Ripdad says:
Utah backed out against Texas this year. If not, they would be playing Florida tomorrow. They have no one to blame but themselves.
http://blogs.sltrib.com/utes/2008/12/matchup-that-could-have-been.htm
January 7th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
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Harris says:
I’m going to steal a line from Capote talking about Kerouac to describe Reilly’s work: That’s not writing, that’s typing.
January 7th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
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kendynamo says:
why does no one (or no hack sportswriter anyway) want to acknowledge that D 1 football is the only sports league in the world with over 100 participants but also a 12-13 game regular season schedule?
saying a move to a playoff is a no brainer because it works for other sports is pretty fuckin stupid. CFB exisited as the 2nd most popular team sport in the country for many decades with 10 game schedules and half a dozen bowl games. also the D1AA playoff system works without controversy because no one gives a shit about those teams so no one talks about it when teams get screwed out of the playoffs or when the best team gets upset by questionable calls to an inferior team who goes on to be crowned ‘champion’.
bitch about the BCS if you want but theres no easy solution. just a lot of fucktard ideas.
January 7th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
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Orson Swindle says:
He’s quasi-right on Utah. Utah deserves a share, but in the absurdist system we have saying there is a singular national title holder is…well, absurd.
January 7th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
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Coop says:
To steal from Reilly’s former employer…
This week’s sign that the Apocalypse is upon us:
John Swofford, O, and myself all agree. Also, we, probably, all really hate Rick Reilly.
January 7th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
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FozzieB says:
It is truly a horrifying day when I agree wholeheartedly with Reilly.
This is one of those rare years when one and only one team played a respectable schedule (their final Strength of schedule rating will be better than many Big Ten, Big East, ACC and SEC teams, if not the majority of them) and went undefeated. And that’s even with Michigan, which looked like Utah’s marquee scheduling coup, shitting the bed on them SOS-wise.
The only counterpoint is that they implicitly agreed to be part of this BCS farce at some point. Throw that out, and there’s no doubt they deserve the title to themselves.
January 7th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
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beckett929 says:
I’m sick of “writers” and talking heads bitching EVERY FUCKING YEAR about the BCS…… their interest is only to get their names out there in some kind of generally agreed upon ‘this is dumb, heres MY solution’ semblence. Kinda like Tom Cruise resorting to the lowest common denominator for a comeback movie, Hitler.
January 7th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
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OhioDawg says:
#12 – Well said.
January 7th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
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Danny Wuerffel's Helmet says:
OK, I’m going to put it this way.
Reilly says the Utes bet 4 ranked teams. They actually bet 3 ranked teams (if we include Alabama) plus Oregon State, that is now #24 in the AP, but wasn’t when they played Utah (though this was the week after they bet USC).
The rest:
TCU: got ranked after defeating New Mexico, Stephen F. Austin, SMU, San Diego State, Colorado State, BYU, Wyoming, UNLV and Air Force; and lost to Oklahoma and Utah. The only high caliber teams that TCU played against were those that defeated them.
BYU: got ranked after defeating Northern Iowa, Washington, UCLA, Wyoming, Utah State, New Mexico, UNLV, Colorado State, San Diego State and Air Force, Lost against TCU and Utah.
So, he’s saying that because Utah bet two ranked teams that got ranked after beating mid-majors, a team that got all the momentum by having a very good second half against USC, and a team playing without the best in its most important unit (the OL, for a team that rushes heavy), they should be National Champions.
This is the worst thing to say. If you follow the logic, the right thing to do to be national Champions is play tons of cup-cakes from the MWC, MAC and C-USA. Then stay in the line against your conference rivals, something that is easier if you play in the Big East or ACC. That’s how you choose a national champion? The team that harasses other obviously inferior teams? Or the incapable one that bet the other incapable ones and then had a SHOCKING victory against a depleted good one?
If Utah had got here by beating one or two competitive teams, teams ranked #10 or best, then welcome. But this is just stupid. Utah plays teams that are obviously not worthy of talking about, or little talk (TCU’s defense, BYU’s Collier, etc).
That’s why they are mid-majors and they receive little attention. Because the gross of their victories comes from what the rest consider cup cakes.
And to defend Title IX, one of the worst programs ever ran (not for what it tries to acomplish, but how it was ran), is just the cherry of this bullshit ice-cake.
January 7th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
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MaconDawg says:
“I’M SAYING THE PRESIDENT CAN MAKE ROCK CANDY APPEAR FROM THE RECTUM OF A UNICORN IF HE WANTS!”
Dear Mr. Reilly:
We regret to inform you that the position of Rock Candy From Mythical Rectums Coordinator has already been filled. By Steve Kragthorpe. And Les Miles is Director of Taffy from Mythical Rectums in perpetua. So will you finally leave us the hell alone?!?
Best,
Human Resources
January 7th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
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meatybob says:
Utah does deserve a share. Oh, and to #10, if you are seriously arguing that point, then maybe we should consider the monster truck sized amount of evidence that other major programs either refuse the schedule difficult OOC competition, or weasel out of contracts themselves. Not to mention that it was URBAN MEYER who made the decision to not play UT.
Anyone outside of USC has no right to bitch about Utah’s schedule.
January 7th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
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Rob says:
@Ripdad
Yeah, and the fact that the BCS power they didn’t duck shat themselves and turned in a 3-9 record this year didn’t help their strength of schedule either.
January 7th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
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Yukon Cornelius says:
“The Utes should probably have two now, actually. They went undefeated in 2004, too, and their coach still thinks they were the best team in the land. Smart fella named Urban Meyer. Coaches Florida now.”
Dear Rick,
Go ask Urban Meyer if he thinks Utah should be National Champs after Florida beats OU tomorrow night.
Sincerely,
The foot in your mouth
January 7th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
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FozzieB says:
Danny Wuerffel’s Helmet-
Good points, all, but they can be made with any non-Big 12 team. For example, “national championship game” participant Florida beat five teams that were ranked in the top 25 when they played. But let’s look closer at those teams:
#1- Alabama. Impressive? Sure. But I think anyone would have to agree that Utah’s beatdown win over Bama in SEC country is more impressive than Florida’s win in Georgia in which Alabama was leading in the 4th quarter. Advantage Utah.
#4- LSU. They are no longer in the top 25. Maybe they’ll sneak back into the postseason polls … on the strength of a performance by a freshman QB who didn’t even play in the Florida game. Hardly an impressive win in retrospect.
#6- Georgia. Impressive, but not much more so than Utah’s best wins.
#20- Florida State. Decent win, but Florida State is not in the BCS Top 25.
#25- South Carolina. See above. And they just got their ass handed to them by a mediocre Big Ten team.
On the whole, I’d say beating those three teams is only a tiny little bit more impressive than beating BYU, TCU and Oregon St., if at all.
So, yeah, they have wins that are really only marginally more impressive than Utah’s. I’ll even agree for the sake of argument that at this stage of the analysis, they are slightly above Utah, although I’m not sure it’s true.
Now, show me the Utah loss that balances out Florida’s home loss to Ole Miss in this equation.
January 7th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
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FightOn says:
Rick Reilly is right.
The BCS is a complete joke and neither the Sooners nor the Gators deserve to be in the game over Utah.
I have no doubt Florida will roll tomorrow night but please don’t pretend you are the best in the nation.
Hell, Florida doesn’t even have enough talent on its team to fill Pete Carroll’s codpiece.
January 7th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
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Joe says:
Reilly doesn’t get enough page views to justify his pay check. He probably gets less than this site. I’m a SI subscriber, and only read his piece because I had too. I don’t get it. He’s not a great writer ( at least he doesn’t capitalize the wrong words in a sentence, the hall mark of a bad writer), but it seems he got his position out of inertia. What has he done to deserve the check he gets? At least Albom wrote a best seller. Reilly acts self satisfied like he’s somehow the reincarnation of Hemingway. Thousands of kids in college write similar creative writing pieces of a similar quality to Reilly each year. Maybe ESPN could hire them, they’d probably be cheaper.
January 7th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
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Last Dragon says:
You are delusional if you think Utah would make it out of the SEC or Big 12 with less than 2 losses. Quit the fucking ridiculous claims they should be #1.
January 7th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
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soledad says:
Isn’t part of the allure of college football the verifiable fact that any team can win on any given day of the week?
Preseason rankings are utterly bogus and just about every other accepted measure of a football team’s rank is decidedly subjective.
I propose some sort of Royal Rumble to determine the National Champion.
Barring that, wouldn’t mind seeing the Gators play for the Waterford Crystal at least every other year. *sustains papercut – bleeds Orange and Blue*
January 7th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
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sb says:
If it isn’t apparent to any of you transitive logic game evaluators that the Bama team in the SECCG was not the same team as the Bama team from the bowlgame, well, then I have nothing else to say to you…really, nothing.
…and your Rick Reilly sounds like one of the better rants of Charles Nelson Reilly…I lfind them similar in more ways than name…
January 7th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
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Raider Red says:
“You are delusional if you think Utah would make it out of the SEC or Big 12 with less than 2 losses.”
One of my favorite straw man arguments. But based on the evidence we have (Utah defeated Michigan, OSU, and Alabama), they WOULD go undefeated in either of those conferences.
January 7th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
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italiangator says:
Fozzie, Top 25 wins aren’t the only metric- the reason that UF, OU, etc are considered better is because each week they have a chance to lose to a good team- let’s compare Utah’s schedule for bowl-bound teams and UF’s (since I don’t feel like comparing any other schools, someone else can feel free):
Utah- Michigan (no bowl), UNLV (no bowl), Utah State (no bowl), Air Force (bowl), Weber State (seriously? no bowl), Oregon State (bowl), Wyoming (no bowl), Colorado State (bowl), New Mexico (no bowl), TCU (bowl), San Diego State (no bowl), BYU (bowl); 7 non-eligible teams, and not once did they face two straight weeks of bowl-eligible teams (until of course they played Bama, a game in which they played exceedingly well)
Florida- Hawaii (bowl), Miami (bowl), Tennessee (no bowl), Ole Miss (bowl), Arkansas (no bowl), LSU (bowl), Kentucky (bowl), Georgia (bowl), Vanderbilt (bowl), South Carolina (bowl), Citadel (cancels out Weber St I suppose, no bowl), FSU (bowl), Alabama (bowl)- 3 non-eligible teams, including a stretch of 5 straight bowl-eligible teams
Also, let’s not pretend like Alabama gave a shit in the game against Utah- Utah played great, and they’re a damn fine football team, but this was their national championship game. For Alabama, it was a sorry shell of a game that they didn’t want to be in, to the point that one of their best players made a decision that kept him out of the game- if you think Andre Smith wouldn’t have been in the game had Alabama won the SEC and headed to Miami, you’re just plain wrong.
January 7th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
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Biz Markie says:
Orson called it after Utah won – give the Utes a 1/4 of the title. Of course we know that won’t happen, so Utah can join the ranks of ‘04 Auburn (BCS teams get the shaft too) and any other teams who were arguably slighted over the past decade.
Trying to play the transitive game here is futile. The Mountain West is not the SEC. Florida’s wins over teams that were ranked at the time were impressive and Utah’s win over Alabama was impressive. TCU, BYU, Michigan, Oregon St., were all solid victories, and yes, Utah was undefeated. However, look at what Ole Miss did to Leach’s pirates, look at what LSU did to the Wreck, look at what Kentucky did to the C-USA champ. Even Vandy won its bowl. Sure, SC and Bama lost, but Utah’s record does not contain the degree of OH MY GOODNESS WE HAVE TO PLAY ____, THE WEEK AFTER WE PLAY _____, THERE that Florida’s does. (OU’s schedule was no joke either.) Therefore, Reilly and other johhny-come-lately media hacks look foolish in the eyes of most major college football fans.
It is not a question of fundamental fairness, it is a question of which teams should play for the big game. Given their conference dynamics and top-to-bottom strength (Baylor and Vandy are no longer door mats), OU/Texas v. Florida was the right call. USC and Utah need to quiet down and watch the game tomorrow like everyone else.
January 7th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
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tzubear says:
Anonymous bean counters within the IRS may ‘hate’ Willie Nelson. Oh, who am I kidding, you need a soul to hate. Willie hates them back, though. That much I am sure.
#26- How do you KNOW? Without a playoff it will always be a myhtical national champ. You probably dont cry watching hoosiers do you? DO YOU?!
#24- you need to refer yourself to Orsons earlier post about “big balls” needed to make such outlandish comments. Florids has plenty of talent.
January 7th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
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Rockytop85 says:
Ok, if you compare apples to apples with the MWC, their record against BCS schools is not that good.
For years the top tier member schools of the SEC have been blasted for ducking the powerhouses from other BCS conferences and instead have played games against mid level ACC, Big East, CUSA, and Sun Belt schools.
Now people are trying to sell me the MWC because they beat Stanford, Washington, UCLA and Iowa State?
TCU and BYU failed in 2 tries to beat a BCS conference team with a winning record.
Air Force didn’t even play a BCS team for comparison.
Colorado State lost to its only two BCS opponents (Cal and Colorado)
UNLV beat a pair of BCS schools that combined for 7 wins. I GUESS that’s impressive.
New Mexico did manage to beat Arizona, which might be the most impressive win for 7 of the 9 teams in the conference. However, they did it the week after losing to Texas A&M.
Wyoming did beat Tennessee, the week after we fired our coach, in the worst season in Volunteers history. I’m not making excuses here, but I haven’t seen “beating Tennessee” listed on the resume of anybody else as a quality win.
San Diego State might want to beat FCS schools before being bumped into a BCS conference.
So now, tell me again that Florida Oklahoma, or USC couldn’t have rolled to 12-0 against the very same conference and then had more than enough left in the tank to knock off Alabama, and I’ll show you how many times somebody can type fucktard before their hand cramps.
January 7th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
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FozzieB says:
Last Dragon-
I don’t think the SEC is nearly as good as you think it is. Utah just finished depantsing the clear-cut second best team in the SEC. What teams other than Florida do you think would give them trouble? That #15 Georgia team that lost a rivalry game at home to a second-tier ACC team? A #25 Ole Miss team that loss to Wake, another second-tier ACC team and also fell to Vanderbilt (who also had their problems with the ACC)? An unranked LSU team that barely handled Troy at home, only left Baton Rouge when forced to, and didn’t figure out it had a quarterback until the SEC season was over?
January 7th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
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italiangator says:
Raider Red, that means that since Florida beat Tennessee, Georgia and Alabama they must have gone undefeated in the SEC as well. Oh wait…3 doesn’t equal 8, my bad.
January 7th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
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tzubear says:
Biz Markie #31-
That argument is coheren, but riddled with east coast bias. If USC and Utah do not deserve to snipe (yet, presumably Florida or Oklahoma would if left out of the title game) then how do you explain the Pac-10 going 5-0 in bowls and the MWC owning the Pac-10? Your SOS argument is not quite whole.
January 7th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
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FightOn says:
32
I agree that Florida has immense talent. However, Pete Carroll’s codpiece is huge son!
January 7th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
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Mungo says:
Sorry, gotta agree with the voting of the “What is a Ute?” Utes, just to change up this ridiculous system. It is as valid as voting a team #1 based on, what, opinions and computer-generated crap?
January 7th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
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Last Dragon says:
@34 – I thought the SEC was down this year too. Until……..the SEC is 5-2. Their 7th best team beat a team from the ACC title game. Their 8th best team (that finished last in the East) beat the CUSA champ. LSU (SEC #5) kicked the shit out of a Ga Tech team that many considered the best team in the ACC. Utah only had to show up every so often. They beat an unmotivated Bama team. Now that I think about it, you’re right. They wouldn’t lose 2. They’d lose more.
January 7th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
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Biz Markie says:
Bluntly stated, the Big XII and the SEC are the top conferences. Bowl winning percentages mean little when the match-ups are terrible, but I’ll concede USC went 5-0. Given that, the bowl games are not the sole barometer of conference strength. Honestly, Oregon St was the only team to challenge USC for PAC-10 superiority this year. The Beavers won head to head, but couldn’t sustain it for the season.
I often pull for the little guy, but USC is not the little guy. USC lost to Oregon St. OU’s loss to Texas is just a more tolerable loss, as is Florida’s loss to Ole Miss. The fact Florida lost at home hurts UF a bit, Ole Miss is still a better team than Oregon St., especially once Nutt got them going during the last stretch. And don’t forget, USC didn’t play a conference championship game.
Utah is the little guy in this argument and I think they deserve recognition. However, I do not believe non-BCS conference champs that make a BCS game AND go undefeated should get the title unless they played a schedule comparable to the top BCS conference winners. So, back to what Orson said, give them a quarter and listen to their argument for a piece of the crown. Once you’ve extended that courtesy, give the crystal to the Sooners or the Gators.
January 7th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
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FozzieB says:
Good points, all. I guess all I have is my opinion.
Oh, and also the BCS computer polls that ranked Utah higher than the voters’ polls even before the Alabama trouncing. And the Sagarin conference rankings that put the SEC a distant third, about as close to the Mountain West in terms of mean as it is to the top of the list:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc08.htm
I don’t have a rooting interest in Div 1 football. What I have is an axe to grind. The SEC just simply wasn’t that good this year. And Utah is not Boise State 05-06 or even Utah of 03-04. This is a very good team that went undefeated against quality competition. The stats and the computers back me up on that.
January 7th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
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The Song of Hiawatha Francisco says:
what Reilly wants is a giant robot to come screaming from the sky and set everything right by cutting a Robeast or two in half.
Let’s be honest: Who among us doesn’t want this?
January 7th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
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Brian O'Blivion says:
Can anyone tell me why NONE of these hack sportswriters, or fans outside of Utah for that matter, were bitching about Utah being left out of the BCS title game before the bowl games were played?
January 7th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
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tzubear says:
Biz Markie-
I still dont buy it. Your still basing your assumptions on the SEC and Big XII to be superior. While the SEC looks to be strong from top to bottom I dont think you can say the best team fromthe PAc-10 or MWC (USC and Utah) is inferior to Florida. I am also not convinced Oregon state is not comparable to Ole miss.
As for the Big XII, they have got exposed a bit:
1. Missou sqeeks out a win vs. NW
2. Oklahoma state looked great in conference but Oregon won more convincingly than the Sooners or Longhorns beat them.
3. Texas Tech was dominated by Ole Miss.
4. texas gets by the 2nd team in a much meligned conf. in the last seconds.
It doesnt add up to dominant conference.
January 7th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
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willet says:
You cannot equate all wins (and losses) as equal. Look at the body of work. Utah’s five “big” wins by a combined 46 point. Uf’s 4 big wins by 109. Definitely more than two losses against a real conference.
January 7th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
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hobeg8r says:
I only know one thing for sure. That crystal football is sitting in Miami.
And God willing, it will be sitting in a case at Ben Hill Griffin after Thursday. (See – I am irrational by invoking God). And the Texas Rangers, LA Swat Team, and the Utah Ski Patrol combined are no match for the [redneck] Alachua County Sheriff’s Dept. in any attempt to get it away from us.
I dont’ know the right answer to the BCS mess. All I want is for the f*ing game to be played. I am sick of waiting. And I want that damn crystal football.
January 7th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
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John says:
All this talk of Utah’s qualifications and I can guarantee most people haven’t seen these guys play a full game. Two games on national TV. The Michigan game was awful and only funny for the ha ha Michigan is losing to inferior team (at that time) again aspect. The Alabama game was an unwatchable clusterfuck a half hour into it. Largely do to Utah’s performance but who was really paying attention after 21-0 outside of Utah and Auburn. And who the hell has the Mountain West network or whatever it is on their cable package.
They have quality wins but they have equally shitty performances against New Mexico and Weber State. Utah is good but UF, OU, USC, and UT are probably better.
January 7th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
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PW says:
I’d like to hear people’s thoughts on this:
If Hawaii had beaten Georgia in last year’s Sugar Bowl, would they have deserved a share of the MNC?
January 7th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
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Brigham Young says:
Alabama didn’t give a shit about beating Utah.
Games more important than Utah:
1. Auburn
2. Georgia
3. Tennessee
4. Florida
The Utah game was the 5th biggest game of the year to Alabama but it was the most important game in the HISTORY of Utah Football.
January 7th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
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Raider Red says:
All this talk of Utah’s qualifications and I can guarantee most people haven’t seen these guys play a full game. Two games on national TV.
And whose fault is that? Utah’s?
The problem is the system is set up so the big six conferences get 99% of the $$$ and publicity. Yes, the big boys are better, but that’s because they have the advantages of resources, attendance, and exposure. The rich get richer.
January 7th, 2009 at 6:33 pm