Comments on: UTAH WINS QUARTER OF NATIONAL TITLE

By: Everybody

Everybody — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:31:14 +0000

@119

Just remember this: Charlie is still in South Bend.

By: hodad

hodad — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:13:33 +0000

#97:

“Oh, I love how Florida, OU, and Texas have some of the most pathetic OOC schedules, but yet its Utah�s fault. ”

Well, in Texas’s case it actually is (partially) Utah’s fault. Utah was scheduled to play in Austin the first game of the year but pulled out – specifically because they thought it made their schedule too hard. As a result Texas played FAU instead.

If Texas beats Utah in that game, they’re in the MNC game due to improved SOS. If Utah beats Texas, they’re probably also in the national title game.

By: Blazer&jorts

Blazer&jorts — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:44:51 +0000

Hats off to Utah from a Bama fan. I still don’t know what happened for the first quarter and a half of the game–I think I’ve blocked it–but after that I know that Smith being out and eventually being whittled to freshmeat on the left didn’t help matters. Once they went up 21, I figured the thermometer’d popped on’em. Can’t depend on JPW to win a game for’em.

I know how this will read, but I legitmately don’t understand how Bama all of a sudden couldn’t tackle for this game. They’ve been fairly true when getting their hands on guys for most of the season. I guess it was a combination of youth–”What the hell’s a Ute!?” and “Our helmets alone will stop these guys!”–and Utah’s sneaking a blackjack into the ring.

By: Geaux Irish

Geaux Irish — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:15:20 +0000

Just remember this:

Bama now has a two-game losing streak on its hands.

By: Why UAT Lost

Why UAT Lost — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:23:37 +0000

Why Did UAT Lose?

This brainiac was running his mouth at the coin toss.

http://www.rolltide.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/caldwell_antoine00.html

Oops!

By: Mr.Pelican Pants

Mr.Pelican Pants — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 04:24:03 +0000

Only thing I can say is, TCUgolf, is that maybe its your uniforms and the Curse of Coach Fran…..
On a lighter note, Oklahoma talkin smack, bulletin board material here, as if Tebow needs anymore motivation:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls08/news/story?id=3809361

By: tcugolf

tcugolf — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:22:22 +0000

Why do so many people presume Utah/BYU could just get into the Pac-10 and TCU could just get into the Big 12 as if we had somehow turned down the opportunity? It is such a B.S. and worthless argument to make. When someone wants to invite us into a “big-boy” league, we’ll be more than happy to take it. If Alabama or Miss State want to move over after they lose and let Utah take their qualifying spot in the BCS, maybe it is time we sorted it out by winners and losers.

It was even more of a middle finger to us “no child left behind” schools when the Big East defections happened and suddenly Louisville, Cincy, and the directional Florida schools got BCS status as if they were big-time football and had centuries of tradition. What a crock the whole BCS status is.

TCU wandered through 30 years in the desert, 15 before the SWC slush fund era and 15 after we got the living death penalty (after Coach Jim Wacker took over and turned our own program in for mercy). SMU & TCU got slapped around by the NCAA while we watched A$M, Texas, and OU cheat like hell and get nothing for it (Eric Dickerson drove his maroon A&M Camaro to school at SMU, so at least they were out a car). Then, politics shoved us aside for Baylor and Tech when the Big 12 formed.

After all that and the BCS money grab, TCU got the wake up call and we’ve now finished in the Top 25 six of the last nine years with two of those years in the Top 10.

We changed conferences three times since the SWC broke up (WAC, CUSA, MWC) trying to find a place that gets us closer to the equal BCS status. We won titles in all three conferences. I guess we’ll just live with 3/5ths of the status of Kentucky, Baylor, Miss State, Rutgers, Indiana, Washington, Washington State, Duke, A&M, Notre Dame and the like.

By: Mr.Pelican Pants

Mr.Pelican Pants — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:08:58 +0000

Pick6,
Who is this Tim Saban speaks of? Is Tim the new defensive coordinator? I think Auburn fans were smiling since Bama had trouble with the Spread, and they got Gus Malzahn…..just not the groceries to cook with right now….Auburn better get their offense together before 2012 since the worlds gonna end and all this playoff talk and BCS talk will be a mute point once the magnetic poles reverse……according to the Discovery channel and Nostradamus….

By: Steve-O

Steve-O — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:01:21 +0000

meatybob, before you make another tendentious post, get your facts straight.

OU and Florida played extremely weak OOC schedules? They both played tougher OOC schedules than Utah, given that each played two teams with a pulse, instead of the one (Oregon St.) that Utah played.

I may be underestimating how good Utah is, since the two games I saw them play before the Sugar Bowl were against Michigan and TCU. I just think that a strength of schedule shouldn’t be measured (for top 5 teams) by the difference between playing number 81 and number 105. It should be how many games you played against teams of a similar caliber and teams that, on a good day, can beat you. The location of the game should be given special attention, too.

I just don’t think Utah’s schedule stacks up to the big boys using these criteria. However, they went undefeated, so the difference in SOS needs to be significant to knock them down a peg.

By: Mr.Pelican Pants

Mr.Pelican Pants — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:00:56 +0000

To many Bama fans, we kinda thought that Florida would do what Utah did to us. The difference between the Florida game and the Utah game was Bama was emotionally into the Florida game, with starters intact, and was all in the game until the early part of the 4th quarter. I was at the game for Utah, and I knew once they took the field, it was kinda like “Meh”….it just didnt feel like I was watching a jacked up team. The fans were into it, the players never got into it until Saban chewed their asses at half time….I think because they were Utah, and not Texas or USC, it seems they prepped like they were gonna play Tulane….As a fan, I found it hard to get jacked up and wasnt even gonna go to the game had it been somewhere else, so I guess I was shellshocked when Utah jumped on em quick… I thought, hey guys, ya might wanna wake up, these Mormons are more Samoan than white and more pissed off than happy to be here..Maybe after this game, Saban will go and get some Polynesians and Samoans like Utah and USC seems to find….On the other sideline, the Utes was treating this game like their Superbowl, and they played lights out. I would switch Utah with South Carolina in a heartbeat into the SEC.
Hell they should go into the Pac 10…. They played with the intensity, wanted it more, and got it.
We had our shot, make some field goals, make a few tackles, block better, hell we were at 21-17 and momentum in the 3rd quarter and let it slip away, and they ran away with it. They are at a minimum #3, and I would love to see USC defense go against their offense. If we could have USC vs Utah, and the winner play the winner of FLA-OKL, who is the last team standing?
If last years Bowl results are any indication, the “favored” team doesnt always win…..Look where Oklahoma and Florida are this year vs last year.
Oklahoma got rolled by WVU, Florida got rolled by Michigan, and both are in the BCS Championship….and look where Michigan and WVU ended up this year….Hopefully we can do the same, although I think our “Real” year will be 2010 since we need at least a QB with 2 yrs starting and plugging holes on the O-Line and Defense….we are young enough where 2 more years of Sabans recruiting and our young players get faster and stronger, we should be “for real and not overrated” like this year, where I knew the “JPW Fairytale”, where the magic wears off and he turns back into a pumpkin role player QB throwing picks and fumbling, would come to a screeching halt. Many thought it would be Florida, it just happened against Utah. Now maybe we can play for real and get a QB that can win a game on his own if he has too. And find players who can defend a spread offense….we got the power running game solved, but covering and tackling in space…not so much…..

By: AParker

AParker — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:53:53 +0000

Orson, I have agreed with this for years. Thank you Thank you Thank you for finally saying what all of us are thinking. Not a Ute fan, just a fan of football and the national trophy for best team since not decided by a playoff, should be shared amoung all respective teams that clearly deserve it. Good luck on thursday

By: Steve-O

Steve-O — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:44:59 +0000

Beckett929, I’m neither an Alabama fan nor an SEC fan, so go fuck yourself you presumptuous cunt rag.

And my argument has nothing to do with conference supremacy, it has to do with strength of schedule (which is often related). My point is that it’s easy to get up for a few meaningful games against decent competition. It’s hard to do it week after week (see Texas) or against a team that has 80,000 drunken fans cheering it on, a decent squad, and the desire to beat the number one team in the country (see USC, Florida, Oklahoma, etc. road games against the likes of Arizona, Nebraska, and LSU).

By: pick6bamr

pick6bamr — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:39:36 +0000

Utah caught Alabama at just the right time…when we didn’t give a fuck…and honestly I still don’t. The difference between the two team was that Utah felt they were playing for a national championship and Alabama had just lost the national title. I’m just happy that JPW could go out with a pick (I was hoping for a pick 6) and a critical fumble late in the game. That was ohh so fitting for him to end his pretty oy Hoover career on. Also, thank you Utah for stoking Saban’s internal hate fueled core to inspire him this off-season…I’m calling it right now 2009…the year Saban destroys the spread…he’s got tim for this shit

By: Vicki

Vicki — Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:43:15 +0000

Anyone think that Urban Meyer might have given a few pointers to Whittingham? Possibly giving Utah a headstart in preparation. (They did coach together for 2 years, and I assume they are still in contact.)

By: D-Nice

D-Nice — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:38:56 +0000

I’m late in commenting about this game, but WOW! Utah totally deserved it and they deserve a piece of the national champioship. As the article points out, this isn’t like 2005 undefeated team. Their schedule, though not the toughest, was plenty tough for them to earn consideration as national champion or at least a chance to play for it – BYU, TCU, Oregon St. (9-4 Bowl Champ), Alabama, and Michigan (I know Mich sucked, but it’s another win over a BCS conference).

Nobody was expecting this, so no one knows what to do about it. You can’t dismiss Utah out of hand as maybe you could other non-BCS team in the past.

This win also makes it difficult for other teams such as USC and Texas (if they beat Ohio St. and if Fla beats OK) to argue that they deserve a piece of the national title or that they served to play for it.