UTAH WINS QUARTER OF NATIONAL TITLE
See, John Parker Wilson stands at a bar at Bourbon Street, and he’s wondering what to drink. There’s a lot of beers, see. Tons of them. There’s Abita Amber, Abita Turbo Dog, Bud, Bud Lite, Corona, Coors Light, Harp, Guinness, PBR. So many options! He’s just about to decide, he’s looking, he promises he is and he’s looking….he reaches his bruised arm into his pocket to get money.
The bartender asks: “What do you want?”
And in the moment, just when John Parker Wilson is about to decide, he is tackled by three defenders wearing Utah jerseys. They take his money and mock his bangs before heading to Pat O’Brien’s to drink Hurricanes until their eyes cross.
Oh, go ahead and laugh and lean back in your chair and lean back on that most Alabamian of nostrums, “There ain’t no answer for power football.” There is: tt collapses in the face of more powerful football played to nasty precision fueled by a level of infectious anger that, to the disloyal objective viewer, had to convert you to rooting for the Utes by the second quarter.
Award Utah a fourth of the national title. This is not 2004 Utah, a team that turned a fluffy schedule and a victory over a palsied Pitt team into an undefeated season. Utah beat 5 ranked teams and embarrassed the SEC West champion. They did not lose a game this season. They had a defense that dealt out harm to all they faced and boasted one of the more accurate quarterbacks in the nation. They beat people with spread-option tactics executed with wishbone brutality.
If you want more from a team, you’re either unreasonable, a total flaming asshole, or both. In lieu of a playoff, we have to resort to fractions, and to be fair: one fraction is just as good as another.
Therefore, the gold coin of the national title this year will be delved out in pieces of eight. Utes, you get at least a quarter for perfection achieved against quality. This may seem unfair, and it is, but in this most imperfect of college football worlds, unfair desserts are the only dish on the menu.










101
PSUfanNYC says:
@ Gen. Stoopnagle –
“Remember the Rose Bowl we win”
Isn’t that from Alabama’s fight song? I’m sure SEC schools would love for the Big10-PAC10 Rose Bowl tie to continue so they can avoid a yearly beatdown at the hands of USC.
January 4th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
102
jeremy says:
why not the college football post season means nothing.
January 4th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
103
Irwin Fletcher says:
@ Spartan Dan-
OK, you’ve said it twice now and you are wrong just to look only at who’s left in the top 25.
Utah’s schedule was SIGNIFICANTLY worse than UF’s this year. UF’s SOS now is 12-15 based on who you ask. If they beat OU, it’ll be top 10, maybe top 5.
Utah’s is in the mid 80’s without the win against Alabama. OK, they leap to what, generously, in the 50’s? There is no comparison.
Not to take away Utah’s victory, which was significant, but without a playoff, you have to look at a bunch of factors and the fact that Utah played a shitty schedule should exclude them from serious consideration, which is exactly what happened when the bowl selections were pooped out and what will happen in the final polls.
Utah beats Alabama and (for sake of argument) UF beats OU who also beat Alabama in a defacto playoff game. UF is currently AP #1. It does not follow that the AP voters would have Utah jump UF. Even if Oklahoma wins, no way Utah jumps after Oklahoma beats the #1 AP team. Ain’t gonna happen and in this current system, it shouldn’t.
January 4th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
104
SpartanDan says:
#102: If you want to be #1, you shouldn’t have much trouble with anyone below #25 whether they’re #26 or #120. At the very top, games against good teams have to matter more than which average-to-bad teams you beat.
If Florida was unbeaten and so was Utah, Florida would be ahead by a mile. I’m not disputing that. But Utah had just as many chances to slip up against good teams as Florida had. One slipped up. One didn’t.
January 4th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
105
Captain Obvious says:
@99
If you really think that the Bama players gave it “their best” then you are more retarded than people who are arguing for utah to get even a sniff of a national title. I take that back. They are the undisputed champions in the 2008 “Who Gives a Fuck” poll.
January 4th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
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TAFKastOSUB says:
#104
And you’re a fricking idiot if you think Alabama wasn’t giving its all. Arenas (sp?) looked like he was giving it his all on very down, as was everyone else. Looking confused, out of position, and just getting your ass handed to you can often look like lack of effort. Quit being a pussy and man up, Bama got rolled…it happens to the best of us, just ask around.
As for Utah, I think they are a badass team that can play with anyone in the country and win. Unfortunately, our system for crowning a national champion is a joke. In the old system, it would come down to a vote between Utah and the winner of OU and Florida…well, hold on, in the old system the bowl match ups would have been different and perhaps the outcome would have been different. Regardless, Utah has got my respect, and probably the same from a lot of people in Alabama, Michigan, and everywhere else in the country. Well done Utes!
January 4th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
107
Papa Lou BSU says:
“This is all such nonsense. I’m calling Tom Osborne and begging him to leave the Big XII and join the mountain west. You only have to show up three games a year and even remotely serious people like Orson will award you a National Championship. ”
I’m sure you don’t find the irony in this line of argument, considering that this year’s MWC is significantly better across the board than the old Big 8 where Osborne racked up most of his career victories — a conference where you literally only did have to show up three weeks per season to go undefeated, and where NU’s non-conference schedules typically consisted of schools that don’t even field football programs anymore — Pacific, Long Beach State, Wichita State, etc.
For all the bitching on here by the status-quo defenders, I’ll point out that non-BCS schools are now 3-1 in BCS bowl games. If we’re all so freakin’ undeserving of respect or high rankings, one would think y’all would be able to actually beat our lowly little programs *on the field* more than 25 percent of the time on the big stage, yes?
January 4th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
108
D-Nice says:
I’m late in commenting about this game, but WOW! Utah totally deserved it and they deserve a piece of the national champioship. As the article points out, this isn’t like 2005 undefeated team. Their schedule, though not the toughest, was plenty tough for them to earn consideration as national champion or at least a chance to play for it – BYU, TCU, Oregon St. (9-4 Bowl Champ), Alabama, and Michigan (I know Mich sucked, but it’s another win over a BCS conference).
Nobody was expecting this, so no one knows what to do about it. You can’t dismiss Utah out of hand as maybe you could other non-BCS team in the past.
This win also makes it difficult for other teams such as USC and Texas (if they beat Ohio St. and if Fla beats OK) to argue that they deserve a piece of the national title or that they served to play for it.
January 4th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
109
Vicki says:
Anyone think that Urban Meyer might have given a few pointers to Whittingham? Possibly giving Utah a headstart in preparation. (They did coach together for 2 years, and I assume they are still in contact.)
January 4th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
110
pick6bamr says:
Utah caught Alabama at just the right time…when we didn’t give a fuck…and honestly I still don’t. The difference between the two team was that Utah felt they were playing for a national championship and Alabama had just lost the national title. I’m just happy that JPW could go out with a pick (I was hoping for a pick 6) and a critical fumble late in the game. That was ohh so fitting for him to end his pretty oy Hoover career on. Also, thank you Utah for stoking Saban’s internal hate fueled core to inspire him this off-season…I’m calling it right now 2009…the year Saban destroys the spread…he’s got tim for this shit
January 4th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
111
Steve-O says:
Beckett929, I’m neither an Alabama fan nor an SEC fan, so go fuck yourself you presumptuous cunt rag.
And my argument has nothing to do with conference supremacy, it has to do with strength of schedule (which is often related). My point is that it’s easy to get up for a few meaningful games against decent competition. It’s hard to do it week after week (see Texas) or against a team that has 80,000 drunken fans cheering it on, a decent squad, and the desire to beat the number one team in the country (see USC, Florida, Oklahoma, etc. road games against the likes of Arizona, Nebraska, and LSU).
January 4th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
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AParker says:
Orson, I have agreed with this for years. Thank you Thank you Thank you for finally saying what all of us are thinking. Not a Ute fan, just a fan of football and the national trophy for best team since not decided by a playoff, should be shared amoung all respective teams that clearly deserve it. Good luck on thursday
January 4th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
113
Mr.Pelican Pants says:
To many Bama fans, we kinda thought that Florida would do what Utah did to us. The difference between the Florida game and the Utah game was Bama was emotionally into the Florida game, with starters intact, and was all in the game until the early part of the 4th quarter. I was at the game for Utah, and I knew once they took the field, it was kinda like “Meh”….it just didnt feel like I was watching a jacked up team. The fans were into it, the players never got into it until Saban chewed their asses at half time….I think because they were Utah, and not Texas or USC, it seems they prepped like they were gonna play Tulane….As a fan, I found it hard to get jacked up and wasnt even gonna go to the game had it been somewhere else, so I guess I was shellshocked when Utah jumped on em quick… I thought, hey guys, ya might wanna wake up, these Mormons are more Samoan than white and more pissed off than happy to be here..Maybe after this game, Saban will go and get some Polynesians and Samoans like Utah and USC seems to find….On the other sideline, the Utes was treating this game like their Superbowl, and they played lights out. I would switch Utah with South Carolina in a heartbeat into the SEC.
Hell they should go into the Pac 10…. They played with the intensity, wanted it more, and got it.
We had our shot, make some field goals, make a few tackles, block better, hell we were at 21-17 and momentum in the 3rd quarter and let it slip away, and they ran away with it. They are at a minimum #3, and I would love to see USC defense go against their offense. If we could have USC vs Utah, and the winner play the winner of FLA-OKL, who is the last team standing?
If last years Bowl results are any indication, the “favored” team doesnt always win…..Look where Oklahoma and Florida are this year vs last year.
Oklahoma got rolled by WVU, Florida got rolled by Michigan, and both are in the BCS Championship….and look where Michigan and WVU ended up this year….Hopefully we can do the same, although I think our “Real” year will be 2010 since we need at least a QB with 2 yrs starting and plugging holes on the O-Line and Defense….we are young enough where 2 more years of Sabans recruiting and our young players get faster and stronger, we should be “for real and not overrated” like this year, where I knew the “JPW Fairytale”, where the magic wears off and he turns back into a pumpkin role player QB throwing picks and fumbling, would come to a screeching halt. Many thought it would be Florida, it just happened against Utah. Now maybe we can play for real and get a QB that can win a game on his own if he has too. And find players who can defend a spread offense….we got the power running game solved, but covering and tackling in space…not so much…..
January 4th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
114
Steve-O says:
meatybob, before you make another tendentious post, get your facts straight.
OU and Florida played extremely weak OOC schedules? They both played tougher OOC schedules than Utah, given that each played two teams with a pulse, instead of the one (Oregon St.) that Utah played.
I may be underestimating how good Utah is, since the two games I saw them play before the Sugar Bowl were against Michigan and TCU. I just think that a strength of schedule shouldn’t be measured (for top 5 teams) by the difference between playing number 81 and number 105. It should be how many games you played against teams of a similar caliber and teams that, on a good day, can beat you. The location of the game should be given special attention, too.
I just don’t think Utah’s schedule stacks up to the big boys using these criteria. However, they went undefeated, so the difference in SOS needs to be significant to knock them down a peg.
January 4th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
115
Mr.Pelican Pants says:
Pick6,
Who is this Tim Saban speaks of? Is Tim the new defensive coordinator? I think Auburn fans were smiling since Bama had trouble with the Spread, and they got Gus Malzahn…..just not the groceries to cook with right now….Auburn better get their offense together before 2012 since the worlds gonna end and all this playoff talk and BCS talk will be a mute point once the magnetic poles reverse……according to the Discovery channel and Nostradamus….
January 4th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
116
tcugolf says:
Why do so many people presume Utah/BYU could just get into the Pac-10 and TCU could just get into the Big 12 as if we had somehow turned down the opportunity? It is such a B.S. and worthless argument to make. When someone wants to invite us into a “big-boy” league, we’ll be more than happy to take it. If Alabama or Miss State want to move over after they lose and let Utah take their qualifying spot in the BCS, maybe it is time we sorted it out by winners and losers.
It was even more of a middle finger to us “no child left behind” schools when the Big East defections happened and suddenly Louisville, Cincy, and the directional Florida schools got BCS status as if they were big-time football and had centuries of tradition. What a crock the whole BCS status is.
TCU wandered through 30 years in the desert, 15 before the SWC slush fund era and 15 after we got the living death penalty (after Coach Jim Wacker took over and turned our own program in for mercy). SMU & TCU got slapped around by the NCAA while we watched A$M, Texas, and OU cheat like hell and get nothing for it (Eric Dickerson drove his maroon A&M Camaro to school at SMU, so at least they were out a car). Then, politics shoved us aside for Baylor and Tech when the Big 12 formed.
After all that and the BCS money grab, TCU got the wake up call and we’ve now finished in the Top 25 six of the last nine years with two of those years in the Top 10.
We changed conferences three times since the SWC broke up (WAC, CUSA, MWC) trying to find a place that gets us closer to the equal BCS status. We won titles in all three conferences. I guess we’ll just live with 3/5ths of the status of Kentucky, Baylor, Miss State, Rutgers, Indiana, Washington, Washington State, Duke, A&M, Notre Dame and the like.
January 4th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
117
Mr.Pelican Pants says:
Only thing I can say is, TCUgolf, is that maybe its your uniforms and the Curse of Coach Fran…..
On a lighter note, Oklahoma talkin smack, bulletin board material here, as if Tebow needs anymore motivation:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/bowls08/news/story?id=3809361
January 4th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
118
Why UAT Lost says:
Why Did UAT Lose?
This brainiac was running his mouth at the coin toss.
http://www.rolltide.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/caldwell_antoine00.html
Oops!
January 5th, 2009 at 9:23 am
119
Geaux Irish says:
Just remember this:
Bama now has a two-game losing streak on its hands.
January 5th, 2009 at 10:15 am
120
Blazer&jorts says:
Hats off to Utah from a Bama fan. I still don’t know what happened for the first quarter and a half of the game–I think I’ve blocked it–but after that I know that Smith being out and eventually being whittled to freshmeat on the left didn’t help matters. Once they went up 21, I figured the thermometer’d popped on’em. Can’t depend on JPW to win a game for’em.
I know how this will read, but I legitmately don’t understand how Bama all of a sudden couldn’t tackle for this game. They’ve been fairly true when getting their hands on guys for most of the season. I guess it was a combination of youth–”What the hell’s a Ute!?” and “Our helmets alone will stop these guys!”–and Utah’s sneaking a blackjack into the ring.
January 5th, 2009 at 10:44 am
121
hodad says:
#97:
“Oh, I love how Florida, OU, and Texas have some of the most pathetic OOC schedules, but yet its Utah’s fault. ”
Well, in Texas’s case it actually is (partially) Utah’s fault. Utah was scheduled to play in Austin the first game of the year but pulled out – specifically because they thought it made their schedule too hard. As a result Texas played FAU instead.
If Texas beats Utah in that game, they’re in the MNC game due to improved SOS. If Utah beats Texas, they’re probably also in the national title game.
January 5th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
122
Everybody says:
@119
Just remember this: Charlie is still in South Bend.
January 6th, 2009 at 1:31 am