CURIOUS INDEX, 12/4/08
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The Ladies of Auburn Make a Surprisingly Tasteful Radio Spot. Two wives of fired Auburn assistants called into local radio stations and made surprisingly tasteful commentary on the firing. Emotional, yes, but none of them broke down and began calling Bobby Lowder a pigfucker, which is precisely what we would have done in the same situation. You will be shocked to know that the announcement of the hiring filtered out through boosters, seemed extremely disorganized, and caught Auburn offensive coordinator Steve Emsminger in Miami on a recruiting trip. Other Auburn assistants were caught mid-visit, as well. “Kid, I’ve just been fired. I suggest you go wherever the hell you like, actually. Disregard the previous 30 minutes of schpiel. What’s you mom doing tonight? She’s in great shape for a woman her age. Hey, is that scotch in the cabinet over there? You ever been to a dog track? Really?” Further confirmation that Auburn is a Banana Republic. The dysfunctional, oligarchical kind where coups happen in sloppy, uncontrolled fashion, not the mall-based purveyor of fine Garanimals for fashion-hapless adults. (Raises hand.) Joe Schad says a trustee reached out to Mike Leach last night: A pirate has no problem taking the wheel of a ship still bearing the clenched and severed hand of its previous captain, but still….yeeeesh. More flash reaction here. As for Leach, his agent says he’s heard nothing from his current employer, so it’s game on for negotiating time. The Animated Blogpoll thinks it’s UNFAIR. Wait: you beat Cincinnati? Get another table in here so Bob Stoops can watch Bobby Vinton at the Copa with his lady. The Animated Blogpoll contains no Goodfellas references, but is certainly entertaining enough to please your inner mobster. (This is a personality test: are you more of a Goodfellas mafia guy, or a Godfather type? Those who gravitate toward the Godfather seem fascinated by the bullshit omerta and honor code of the whole thing, the high drama and lush interiors; we’re more of a Goodfellas partisan because it shows why you’d behave so badly in the first place. You get to shove postmen’s heads into pizza ovens, pistol-whip country club assholes to a pulp in broad daylight, and give your wife shopping money measured out by inches, not amount. Blah blah politics family honor America whatevs. Give us Henry Hill doing blow and scanning the skies for helicopters any day.) Sad. Ball State will not meet Boise in the Humanitarian Bowl for the Sensible Mid-Sized Hybrid Undefeated Program Bowl. Painful, but true, sir. SI’s Don Banks on Lane Kiffin’s strengths: “His strength right now is apparently, frankly, interviewing and getting jobs,” said Don Banks, who covers the NFL for Sports Illustrated. “He does that very well.” NFL writer’s sneering at the college game aside, Lane Kiffin is looking more and more like a very, very conservative person’s notion of an innovative hire. “Does he come from good stock? Who’s his father? Does he run in a good crowd? Does he use the salad fork correctly?” It’s like hiring a kid straight out of Wharton because his pedigree is “impeccable.” That’s what Tennessee just did, and it is going to take a posse of old boys pitching in to make it work. |
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1
Paul says:
I’ve never really felt sorry for a coach being fired until now. Tubs did it the right way and won a ton of games. One bad season and bam. AU used to be my second fav team but now I hope they don’t win another game for the next decade.
December 4th, 2008 at 9:29 am
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Geori says:
Where the hell is all of this money coming from in a down economy? This firing is as risky as buying GM options today.
December 4th, 2008 at 9:35 am
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OhioDawg says:
Bad move by Auburn. Just ridiculous. Undoubtedly well received by other SEC fan bases.
People who are fans of Goodfellas live in a black and white world. Either the mobsters are coked-out, maniacal killing machines or the something’s not right in the world. Oh, and the acting’s not as good.
December 4th, 2008 at 9:43 am
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kleph says:
i got no love for the barn and a lot of dislike for tubby, but this is really a craptacular move on the part of the school. i guess i’m happy cause it’s a move almost custom designed to kill a program but i’d much prefer the ingrates from the plains as a quality game at the end of each season rather than a tomato can to kick around. it’s massively unsatisfying and the kiss of death for strength of schedule.
December 4th, 2008 at 9:43 am
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gerry dorsey says:
there is a reason there was not a goodfellas 2 and 3 (shitty as godfather 3 may be)…b/c the henry hill’s of the world don’t last very long. but michael corleone endured.
December 4th, 2008 at 9:44 am
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drb says:
Good job Bobby Lowder! Run that program into the ground why dont ya?
You cant fire a coach like Tubbs and then not get the best assistant or head coach available.
December 4th, 2008 at 9:47 am
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baconboy says:
Love to see Tuberville go to Mississippi State for a few years. I bet he’d turn them around.
December 4th, 2008 at 9:58 am
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DanF says:
Auburn Fans – what would be the best-case, yet realistic, scenario in your minds?
December 4th, 2008 at 10:03 am
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Vol says:
On Kiffin-
Our 5-star qb recruit Tahj Boyd just de-committed because Kiffin told him he probably wouldn’t fit in very well in the new system. Well what the hell, we have qb’s to burn!!
December 4th, 2008 at 10:08 am
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D-Nice says:
I really think Tubberville is a good coach.
Will be very interesting to see where he ends up. Some non-SEC schools could use him.
December 4th, 2008 at 10:09 am
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TIGERinATL says:
Word is the AU admin and CTT had reached an agreement for him to stay as HC. But Tubs decided to retire instead.
http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/sports/122838211921690.xml&coll=2&thispage=2
“But at lunch, Tommy said he’d talked with (his wife) Suzanne and she wanted him to get out of the business. And Tommy said, `If Auburn will take care of me, that’s what I’d like to do.’”
Spina said it was at that point that Jacobs and Auburn President Jay Gogue agreed to work out a satisfactory resignation package for Tuberville
December 4th, 2008 at 10:11 am
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James says:
In fairness, bobby lowder is, in fact, a pigfucker.
Charlie Strong is at the top of my list, provided he makes SJPW cry like the small girl he really is.
December 4th, 2008 at 10:15 am
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woolf says:
please, please, please, Auburn: hire the As(perger’s) Pirate. I say this as an unabashed crimson tahd homer: the concept of an enraged, gamma-irradiated Nick Saban hulking out on the sideline opposite a totally oblivious polymath who’s probably thinking as much about the Curonians’ reign of terror in the Baltic Sea as the next offensive series is, well, sort of like a Looney Tunes premise.
Also: Mike Leach brings no defense, and I’d love to see an Alabama tailback set the world record for 2000 meters in a single game.
December 4th, 2008 at 10:16 am
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ALGator says:
Hmm.. all of this is hurting the SEC as a whole.
If we can get Mike Leach to Auburn that would help bring back some respectiability.
Kiffin was an error by UT.
December 4th, 2008 at 10:16 am
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meatybob says:
Wow, whipping out the B school names with “Wharton”. Impressive.
December 4th, 2008 at 10:17 am
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Harvey Wireman says:
I prefer Scarface!
Salieri and chainsaws in one movie!
December 4th, 2008 at 10:18 am
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Kerwin4two says:
Where did Auburn get the money for this buyout?
Probably from Bobby Lowder
Where did Bobby Lowder get the money?
Well he is the CEO of Colonial BancGroup
Where did Colonial BancGroup get the money in these tough times?
Well they just got their TARP funing apporval on Tuesday – the day before Tuberville got the buyout.
http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSBNG42208920081202
Where did the Government get the money to fund TARP?
Well they don’t necessarily have that kind of money sitting around, but it comes from super nice taxpayers like us and future generations of us.
Congratulations on the buyout, Tubs! from one of the guys who’s supplying the money for it.
December 4th, 2008 at 10:22 am
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BurritoBrosShits says:
The whole Auburn situation smells like shit. If Tubs were to retire, wouldn’t he have secured the security of his assistants?
And I’d be a Goodfellas guy. In the end you’re either going to get caught or die, might as well have a good time doing it. Just don’t want to end up like Pesci in Casino. Getting beaten with baseball bats and then buried alive is not the most pleasant death I could imagine.
December 4th, 2008 at 10:22 am
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TIGERinATL says:
#8 – not an exact answer to your question, but sums it up the best I can: Orson is right in his SN piece that anyone short of Leach (or that level of noteriety) is a FAIL.
That said, i have doubts about Leach in the SEC. Some TV analyst made the point this season that although there are really great QBs in the B12, the DBs in the SEC are a half step faster, which would take away a tremendous amount of potency from a pass-first spread O. I think the constant run threat is essential to UF’s success with the spread and Leach’s system doesn’t have that.
I like Bobby Johnson and that offense is really fun to watch when it works, but I don’t think it would have long-term staying power in the SEC. I also don’t think he’ll pull up stakes after just one year, and if he did, I would then be skeptical of his commitment to AU.
I think the biggest problem we have is that this is being spun as an uncalled for firing, when it looks like Tubs may have just decided to call it a career instead of starting over again. Thanks to Jetgate, the media says that’s AU’s MO so muct have happened this time and will likely not look any deeper. Columns like Maisel and Dodd wrote today will be the knee-jerk norm. That hurts us in recruiting both players and coaches.
December 4th, 2008 at 10:25 am
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Mr.Pelican Pants says:
I tend to hail from the Goodfellas side of things, since most coaches usually end up thinking they are gonna get another year, then when they walk into the meeting, they are walking on plastic and getting shot in the head……
Speaking of getting whacked, for some reason, I had a dream so vivid and so real I swore I was there watching it live….I was at the SECCG, and Terrance Cody tweaks his knee after the first quarter, and Florida simply runs away with it….it was 25-6 at halftime then 50-18 at games end….at one point Florida ran 3 plays for 3 TD’s, in a row, simple screens and outs that Rainey and Demps seemed to be able to manuever to the end zone unharrassed…..plus combined with Coffee and Arenas fumbling, JPW throwing INTs….Horrible, nightmarish….I was convinced when I woke up it was Monday…..kinda like after Scrooge woke up and realized that there still was a chance to avoid the nightmare…(fingers crossed that I am not psychic)
December 4th, 2008 at 10:26 am
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LushBaptist says:
OK, so with Alabama at #1 and Tubberville kicked to the curb, am I the only one who wants to see a CYBERTYDE sketch? I can’t be. Orson: your move.
December 4th, 2008 at 10:30 am
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BurritoBrosShits says:
Even if Auburn gets Leach, the fallout from this mess would be so great that it would cast a cloud over the whole program. I just can’t imagine that the boosters would be so incensed that they would resort to this. I’m flummoxed.
December 4th, 2008 at 10:34 am
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LushBaptist says:
Oh, and “My Blue Heaven” FTW.
December 4th, 2008 at 10:40 am
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OhioDawg says:
The way they handled discussions with Petrino, and now firing Tubberville for one bad season after the record he has had changes the field of potential coaches.
I think Auburn’s best bet is to find a really good coach from a mid-major or D2 school (they may have one over at Buffalo). Tressel is a great example of this approach working. Hopefully Brian Kelly will be another example (too soon to tell).
If he really just retired, it’s hard to believe that the rest of the staff would have been taken by surprise.
December 4th, 2008 at 10:42 am
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Croc says:
Enough about those pigfuckers at Auburn, I want hear more from that great psychic Pelican Pants! If I get a dream that vivid it inevitably veers into sex with hotties like EA and that really messes up the game.
December 4th, 2008 at 10:47 am
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Long Snapper with a short fuse says:
“You will be shocked to know that the announcement of the hiring filtered out through boosters, seemed extremely disorganized, and caught Auburn offensive coordinator Steve Emsminger in Miami on a recruiting trip. ”
I am shocked, as the hiring news hasn’t filtered nearly as quickly as did the firing news.
I’m more Casino than either Godfather or Goodfellas, but if we’re limited to a binary switch, then I’ll take the gun and leave the cannoli.
December 4th, 2008 at 11:04 am
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Harris says:
Certainly Debi Mazar is far hotter than any woman in “The Godfather” and Laura Bracco’s incessant screaming and crying was no more brain-meltingly irritating than Talia Shire’s, but the Corleones traveled the world and lived in colossal palaces and waterfront chalets while Henry Hill schlumped in a boring-ass suburban split-level. I think any red-blooded American would enjoy threatening to throw people into a lion cage, but I I’d rather enjoy having senators in my pocket.
December 4th, 2008 at 11:04 am
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Jim Leavitt says:
I have no interest in the Auburn job.
(I know no one has contacted me yet, but this is how I roll)
December 4th, 2008 at 11:12 am
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Brian O'Blivion says:
While I’m a big fan of both Goodfellas and Godfathers, I’m more of a Sopranos mafia guy, which is a little bit of both movies. Damn, I miss that show.
December 4th, 2008 at 11:14 am
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sevenDs says:
DanF @ 8
The best case scenario is that Bobby Lowder finds God and makes a drastic change in his behavior. Then Gouge would replace Jay Jacobs with a qualified AD. At that point, I’ll worry about the coach.
Other scenarios include, Lowder on train tracks; Lowder suffers a massive coronary, Lowder in the path of a bus…..
Really too many for me to cover right now.
December 4th, 2008 at 11:23 am
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dudis41 says:
Few on here will care (I can think of 2 or 3 maybe), but I applaud Ball State for not taking the Boise Bowl bid.
Hold out for that GMAC Bowl baby! Seriously, I don’t know what the pay-out would be for either, but it would certainly be a shame if Ball State’s fans had to travel 1000 miles to see their team cap off its (however insignificant to all you BCS elitists) undefeated season.
December 4th, 2008 at 11:25 am
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Walt Harris says:
I, too, told Auburn “no” before they had a chance to ask me.
December 4th, 2008 at 11:36 am
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Crabapple Buck says:
dudis –
I agree. Why should Ball State give Boise a home game to prove their prowess? I doubt Boise would want to travel to Muncie, nor should they. Neutral or nothing. Since my wife is a Ball State grad, I have fulfilled my obligations and will go back to hoping the Buckeyes don’t get embarrassed in their bowl game this year.
December 4th, 2008 at 11:53 am
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DrBundy says:
@ #27 – That’s Lorraine Bracco, not Laura. Technicality, I know, but I’m OCD and a stickler for details.
December 4th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
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hobeg8r says:
If, in fact, Tubs quit – who is the bigger ass? AU for how it was handled? Or Tubs for not calling his assistants to let them know? He could have said – “Look, I’ve talked to my wife and she wants me to get out of coaching. Let me call my assistant coaches and let them know before all of this gets out. ” That did not happen. At the end of the day, the assistant coaches were hung out to dry. He walks away with $6M while they are left twisting in the wind.
December 4th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
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Vandy J says:
I don’t think it’s the “one bad season” thing – I think the most charitable explanation is that the Auburn Powers That Be saw the beginnings of the wheels coming off (the spread meltdown, the Vandy loss, the Franklin firing, and the sudden rise from the dead of the Tide) and decided to move now before the bleeding gets any worse.
The less charitable and more accurate explanation is that Auburn’s Board of Trustees makes Wisteria Lane look like Sesame Street.
(fines self for recycling own snark before noon PST)
December 4th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
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TIGERinATL says:
hobeg8r,
How do you know that isn’t what happened. I haven’t seen anything that led me to believe the media was told before the assistants. The way I understand it, they were out recruiting b/c the plan was for Tubs to stay as HC. He changed his mind, told the AD, then they called the assistants on the road, then notified the media.
December 4th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
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TIGERinATL says:
36- I think we all saw that the 2006 and 2007 records were not in-line with the stat sheet. Those of us who declined the koolaid (not me) saw 2008 coming (AU not bama, which is truly an amazing turn around) and the rest of us were too afraid it was actually true to admit it.
December 4th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
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NRBQ says:
Harris:
I present to you Michael’s young Sicilian country bride who was blown up in his car.
December 4th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
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PeterPumpkinhead says:
BBS, what has Tubby done to make you think he’d do anything for his assistants? Have you seen the trail of coordinators he’s left in his wake.
I’m sad to see him go. I really wanted the opportunity of beat up on him for a few more years. And I’d never ever defend the Barn, but it seems TIGERinATL may be right. There are several news agencies reporting this morning that Auburn tried to talk Tubby into staying and he decided to leave.
Anyone know if any of these crazy rumors about his wife sleeping with players is true?
December 4th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
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DC Trojan says:
NRBQ @ 39 – who wouldn’t move to rural Sicily to tap that ass?
The Godfather is for people who harbor dreams of the boardroom, and having other people do the dirty work. GoodFellas is for making real one’s dreams of overturning suburban, middle management anomie with an unleashed id and the destruction of management.
I like both – GoodFellas for now, and with any luck the Godfather for later.
December 4th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
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T-bird says:
@40 on the wife rumors. That is a bunch of crap, and a really low blow for whomever made that up.
I work at the University and we are at the moment talking to construction companies about making Jordan Hare look like a pirate ship in an effort to attract Leach.
Didn’t want Tubs (one b fellas) to leave, but since he’s gone I am firmly entrenched on the ARRRRRR-wagon.
And bammers, Harris and Leavitt both turned you down when asked about the job, it happened, move on from that old crapfest.
December 4th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
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PeterPumpkinhead says:
@T-bird
That’s what I figured, esp since I’ve heard 6 different versions of the rumor.
Leach at Auburn would rock. Just the media interaction possibilities are great. Then there’s him and Saban playing golf together in charity tournaments. The mind boggles.
Oh, and then there’s the fact that even Shula could beat that offense
December 4th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
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MSR says:
Seriously, T-Bird–you think Walt Harris was even asked about the Bama job? Have mercy.
December 4th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
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rtr says:
Sleeping with players? Wow, I’d heard his wife left him 2 months ago, but I thought it was for some local guy; players would me a complete mindf–k.
December 4th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
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bobafet7 says:
A$$H*LE of the year award goes to the kid that interrupted the coach’s sons speech.
“I know your speech is on French Neo-Fascism, but ah, your dad just got fired”
December 4th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
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Harrison says:
Ensminger wasn’t even in warm, sunny Miami. He was in shitty-ass Maryland recruiting Kodi Burns part 2. I think he just stayed up there
December 4th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
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Papa Lou BSU says:
On behalf of Ball State fans everywhere, thanks for the support, dudis41 and Crabapple Buck… our sentiments exactly.
I would have loved to see the battle of the unbeaten BSUs, but not on Boise’s terms (travel 1,900 miles to play a road game on another non-BCS team’s home field, make $200K less in payout, receive only 1,000 tickets, get hammered with ridiculous travel costs, and screw over your fans who’d like to see your team play in a bowl after an undefeated season, and to top it off, play on a weekday afternoon so working fans can’t even watch on TV… all while Boise doesn’t give an inch. Screw that.)
We offered to play them in Detroit, Mobile, Shreveport, basically anywhere except their home field. Boise, in turn, refused to even discuss a neutral site, even though the Independence Bowl was very interested.
Of course, that didn’t stop some clown from Yahoo Sports from barfing out a column today that read like it was ripped right off of a Boise State message board, essentially calling *Ball State* chicken for not accepting Boise’s insulting offer. Right.
So, thanks, guys. Your taking up for my Cards in this matter is most appreciated.
December 4th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
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Brian says:
Orson mentions that “Is Muschamp and other coaches in waiting regretting those decisions, now that there are vacanies of choice?”
I would say emphatically, no. Heres why, the guy is living in a sweet town, and is at a solid school with the decided recruiting advantage for the region. I would call it Florida and USC-esque…Making what, 900k…right now…it will go up every few years. And he’s the prince…no one ever targets the prince. The prince has it easier than the king, and Muschamp knows this.
BOOM Mutherfucker!
December 4th, 2008 at 11:07 pm