WHO WANTS TO HIRE A BLACK COACH?
You know, you can hire black coaches. It’s not against the law. Trust us, if you can do it in Mississippi, you can do it in any state in the union. (Mississippi, you’re in the union. Trust us. We’ve checked the lying government maps.)
People do it all the time. For instance, were you aware that Tony Dungy is both the Super Bowl-winning coach of the Indianapolis Colts, and is black, too? Another example: Mike Tomlin, who despite sporting a chinstrap beard has proven himself as a capable head man at Pittsburgh. Or consider if you will the success of Lovie Smith, who led the Bears to the Super Bowl and had a superb career prior to Chicago as the defensive coordinator of the Tampa Bay Bucs.
Better still, consider that the NFL has proven its complete Colbertian colorblindedness by allowing black coaches to become what was only once a career path allowed for white coaches: the hopeless mediocre retread on the verge of exploding at any second.
Dennis Green is just a porky Norv Turner with extra melanin now, a name recognizable enough to fill a coaching position when you need someone who has both done the job before and knows how to clean out an office without too much fuss. If rewarding someone prior to achievement isn’t the ultimate demonstration of cronyism triumphing over race, then you have stumped us on the question of a better definition of the concept.
College has done an abominable job developing black coaches from the bottom to the top, which is the main reason for their ranks being so thin at the top. We like blaming ADs as much as anyone, but the racism begins with the appointment of graduate assistants and stems out from there. What drives that process is beyond the scope of this post, though we think the paltry salaries at the entry level might have something to do with it.
If you’d like a quality black coach at the college level, here’s who you should hire, because most of them are years overdue for a shot at either their first gig, or something more lucrative than their current job.
Turner Gill, Buffalo HC. Is taking Buffalo to a bowl game. Read that again. Now, hire him and pay him.
Charlie Strong, Florida DC. We’re voluntarily shooting ourselves in the foot by suggesting he become a head coach somewhere else, but Strong’s been at the top of his profession as a defensive coordinator for almost a decade now and has had zero serious offers to be a head coach. Hire him. It’ll hurt us, but hire him. You can even pay him not to button the top button of his golf shirts all the time, a habit which may be the only excuse besides outright racism to explain no one offering him a job yet.
Calvin Magee, Michigan OC. Didn’t merely manage the West Virginia offense under Rich Rodriguez, but built a beautiful gameplan to upset Oklahoma last year in an effective audition for bigger and better things. Has seen the program-building process from the inside-out under Jim Leavitt at USF, where he was an original staff member. Would like it if you just came out and told him you were racist and didn’t want to hire him because of the color of his skin, since you wouldn’t be the first to do that.
Sylvester Croom, former head coach at Mississippi State. As long as he doesn’t bring Woody McCorvey with him, he’s a fine coach who occasionally worked miracles at Mississippi State in the long, bombed-out aftermath of the Jackie Sherrill era. Also: he’s a retread, so hiring him would help further elevate black coaches at the college level to the status of their white colleagues. (Ty Willingham’s just out there alone, people. He can’t be the only one.)
And hell, while you’re at it take a flyer on Trooper Taylor for future head coachdom. He’ll have worked with Fulmer and Mike Gundy, can call a spread offense, and was the sole source of fresh life on the Tennessee staff in the 2000s as a promiscuous recruiter and fiery walking motivational poster-type guy.
(P.S. If you’re hiring a coach, it’s even more likely you’ll have to do this–or at least consider doing it–now that Brian Kelly’s staying put at Cincinnati. )









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hailstate says:
Croom won’t get a sniff from another D1 school. And he shouldn’t. The man is a terrible game day coach. Most of the miracles that occurred over the past 5 years were the work of Ellis Johnson not Sly Croom.
December 2nd, 2008 at 5:51 pm
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Mr. Shuler Goes to Washington says:
Orson,
Good points, and my apologies on directly referencing you. I should not have done that. Sometimes, however, the whole “white guilt” thing can be a tad frustrating to deal with on a constant basis. Also, I would argue that the term “politically correct” has been taken out of its original context for so long, and its initial meaning/definition has subsequently been so vastly broadened, that it can legitimately refer to a wide array of topics (think the old, worn-out argument over the expansion of the meaning of the Confederate battle flag). And I cannot whole-heartily agree that black coaches are passed over for white coaches because of their race. And as I am sure law school taught you, statistics can be very, very misleading. Even in reality. My initial argument remains the same: A coach should be hired or fired based on character and ability, but never on skin color. And that applies to white coaches, too. A white coach should not be hired over a qualified black coach simply because of his being white. That, I think which we can all agree, would be unacceptable. However, I do apologize for my earlier unwarranted personal attack. It was wrong. And by the way, I am from Mississippi (and sometimes I actually can laugh at us Mississippians), and I am not a troll. That was hurtful.
December 2nd, 2008 at 5:52 pm
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Orson Swindle says:
El Kabong–
A damn good question. The root cause is the first question, which is enough to keep us busy all offseason. (And to keep accusations of being “the race police” and other tardbot gens flying in the comments.)
The short answer is: we don’t know, and neither does anyone else.
December 2nd, 2008 at 5:58 pm
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Orson Swindle says:
Troll accusation redacted, Mr. Shuler. Continue your fine legislative work.
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:00 pm
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Mr. Shuler Goes to Washington says:
Orson,
Also, my apologies for using the term “Race Police”. I don’t know if using it rises to a level of earning me the title of “tardbot”, but it was indeed unfounded. And I suppose, wrong. I fall upon my sword.
And hailstate,
Ellis Johnson, although a good defensive coach, can hardly take the credit for State’s Liberty Bowl season. Truthfully, such credit should be bestowed upon Tommy Tuberville’s annual ritual of being beaten by a clearly inferior team, pre-2008 John Parker Wilson and his uncanny ability to derail a game for Alabama, and Pete Boone for getting rip-roaring drunk and naming Ed The Orgeron a head coach at an SEC school.
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:10 pm
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Trapper John says:
No, none of you can have Turner Gill. He’s ours.
OK, realistically, I know that Turner should get a big-time gig, and I’ll be happy for him when he does so. But Syracuse is not a big-time gig. If TT comes calling, well, vaya con dios, Turner. It was fun.
As to the broader point – excellent post, Orson. Don’t let the Fabulous Faubus FanKlub stop you from writing stuff like this.
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:10 pm
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BurritoBrosShits says:
Orson, I have a problem with using NFL coaches as standards for minority hires. An NFL head coaching position isn’t half as political as a NCAA head coaching position. Coaches are hired to WIN and that’s it. In the college game they have to do more than win, they also have to ‘be the face of the program’. Fair? Not sure to be honest with you.
The NFL has the Rooney Rule also, which arguably allows minority coaches to get at least a foot in the door. Does the NCAA need to adopt a Rooney Rule? Again, not sure.
What I am sure of is that there is a large representational gap in the number of minority coaches compared to the number of minority players. Reasons for that? Too many to list.
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:14 pm
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MV3 says:
For the 1st Question – Why aren’t there many black coaches,? I agree with the answer supplied by El Kabong, @48, he backed it up mightily.
That brings us to the follow up question – Why are there not many black candidates? That needs answered and addressed.
2.5% of Div I coaches are black and there are no programs or practices in place by the NCAA or any conference that I know of to address this.
I am from eastern Arkansas, if there is one thing we understand, that is humor about being from Mississippi.
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:24 pm
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Mr. Shuler Goes to Washington says:
Trapper John,
Low blow. Just because some of us are not ardent supporters of affirmative action programs and the like for the hiring of college football coaches does not mean we want to segregate the Arkansas public school system. The only “Orval” I applaud spelled it differently. And because flying scares the daylights out of me, I not even that big of a fan of the latter.
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:25 pm
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Tim says:
@48
Why so zealously opposed to the brothers getting a shot? It’s not like there’s been a big epidemic of black coaches getting HC jobs ahead of white coaches. 3 out of 119 is just embarassing. You seem like you’re awfully eager to tear down a bunch of guys that have worked awfully hard to get where they are, and for often very questionable reasons. Cases in point:
Jay Norvell was at Nebraska for 3 years and left because he wanted to call plays. Those Nebraska offenses were pretty good after the second year or so, and he was universally loved by his players. Offensive genious Bill Callahan wouldn’t hear of it, so he went to UCLA. He was at UCLA for a year and then the Dorrell coaching staff got fired. Now he’s been at Oklahoma and their offense has been….kind of ok.
Calvin Magee inherited a bunch of players that are about as far away from what he needs to run his run/spread offense as you can get. They will get better at it once he gets his type of players in there.
Curiously, the guy that Calvin McGee was passed over for took an offense that was nearly unstoppable last year and manged to drive it off of a cliff. How does that happen when you still have Pat White and Noel Devine? It couldn’t be the guy calling the plays, could it?
I guess my question to you is this: What do you gain by “brewing your hate soup”? Does it really feel good to stand up for white guys every where on this issue?
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:28 pm
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nashvegas says:
to everyone worried about the lack of black head coaches, do you feel the same way about the lack of white nba players? or white nfl players? what should be done about that?
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:30 pm
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Der Schatten says:
*peers in*
yep, shit still stirring. Goes back to tipi, and damns the whole buncha’ interlopers and land-squatters.
I jest (but only because I don’t have the numbers for O’s #1 proposition).
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:39 pm
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Signal to Noise says:
Here’s how you fix the shameful number:
1) Make sure the players graduate. One oft-forgotten part of the equation when it comes to hiring a head coach is that a B.A. is required for many, if not all, gigs.
2) Offer better pay for graduate assistants. If you are a black football player from a less-than-well-off family and you don’t have enough to play on Sunday after you’re done, you’re not going to take a GA gig when the pay is that lousy and you have yourself and possibly others in your family to worry about.
That’s a start. The pool of coordinators is not large enough because the NCAA and its member institutions do not make it a priority.
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:51 pm
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Rawk says:
I love the U. I love Randy Shannon and what he has done for the program. I believe in Shannon. That said, I would drop Shannon in a second for Charlie Strong. I’ve been yelling for Charlie Strong to get a job since I saw what he did in the 2004 Peach, shutting down a pretty good Miami offense and calling a very balanced game on offense, if I recall correctly it was a great mix of run and pass and only turnovers and sacks were the big factor in the lack of offensive success. Plus, Charlie to me just seems to have “it”. Charlie Strong is above all this no offers mess, he should be getting good offers, like real good ones. Like the caliber of Clemson level jobs, if not better jobs.
And if I was any MAC school at all, any C-USA school, and like half of the Big East and 80% of the WAC or MWC, I would give Trooper Taylor a shot. Trooper could be solid gold in a HC position, and if Trooper Taylor got a job, any job, even the job at Utah State, I’d start paying attention to Utah State. Isn’t that more then enough to get the job at those mysterious 25 members of D-1 that it takes you just as long to name as it does the bigger 85 schools combined?. In my eyes Taylor is a recruiting master a la Coach O in waiting, and you can do far worse at a ton of schools. Also, Croom deserves to fall into some silly job in the D-1 ranks, you can’t tell me he isn’t a better option then whatever the heck anyone in the C-USA has, or that he wouldn’t take any D-1 job you offer him. I really don’t care all that much about black or white and numbers, but you can’t deny their are a lack of black coaches, a statistically significant lack, and that there are at least a few really good black coaches you could hire, and will probably not get jobs. Even if you want to make the argument that perhaps there arn’t enough qualified black coaches to make the proportion of black coaches to all coaches match black Americans to all Americans, I think it’s undeniable that there are black coaches that should clearly have jobs right now, and I think that is a problem. I’ll care a LOT less when people break down Strong’s door with offers, and people take a chance on someone like Taylor at any program and Gill at a BCS program that isn’t Iowa State or the like.
December 2nd, 2008 at 7:04 pm
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Honestly says:
Some of these hilarious posts remind the rest of us that there are a LOT of Southern college football fans. Pro tip: Stop yelling “PC” whenever you get the willies about race and people might believe you’re actually educated and literate. Maybe. Probably not. LOL. “Go Rebels!”
December 2nd, 2008 at 7:05 pm
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Harrison says:
Lovie Smith was LB coach at TB and D.Co. at Chicago, but you are correct. He is a black coach.
December 2nd, 2008 at 7:20 pm
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Der Schatten says:
@64
Gee, on a fucking University of Florida guy’s blog there might be some southern football fans? This is a far more honest, candid debate about race in America than the media narrative of “Race in America”(tm) so central in the recent election.
Do I agree with a lot of these troglodytes? Fuck no. But geography has nothing to do with it. Want some fun facts? Here ya go. Second largest slave port in the U.S.? New York City. Home of America’s black ghettos? Chicago.
Now, resume digging in your ass for the mushrooms you are apparently so fond of.
December 2nd, 2008 at 7:50 pm
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Z says:
There should be a concerted effort by the BCA to get more young black men into coaching at the GA level. That’s where it all has to start.
If not then you run the risk of just hiring a guy who could turn out to be the next Gerry Faust…or Charlei Weiss….
December 2nd, 2008 at 7:54 pm
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JL says:
What a thread.
The lack of black head coaches is merely the product, and visible representation, of systemic “racism” from GA hirings on up. I put racism in quotes because it’s not quite that simple, but close. Fewer black men will get chances at being GAs. This is not worrisome on it’s own, but it means fewer blacks are qualified to move up. This continues up the ladder until you get to HC, where so few blacks are left, after being unfairly pushed out of the game (unfair because so many dozens of white mediocre coaches get hired again and again). The “AHHH OH MY GOD PC OBAMA WHITE GUILT” posters here are correct on their point that there are not very many black coaches qualified to be HC. But why is that? How can blacks make up a majority of players, but somehow end up being 3/119 at the HC positions, and all others “unqualified”?
It has more to do with GA hirings than HC hirings. If you don’t let them in the door to begin with, they won’t be there at the top 20 years later.
Unfortunately, it’s hard to track things like entry-level coaching gigs, and even harder to reform, as it takes a generation for those entering to get to the point where they are visible (head coaches).
December 2nd, 2008 at 7:56 pm
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Rob says:
“Ty Willingham has proved beyond any doubt that he is not a good head coach, but people are STILL knocking Notre Dame for firing him. If he was some old white guy who got shiatcanned for stinking up South Bend, nobody would be talking about it four years later.”
Disagree. He still got fired way too prematurely, and he’d still be used as an example along with Bob Davie in all the “fire Charlie Weis” talk going on right now, and any future “fire ______” talk that emerges about that program. The talk will only subside once the program finds a coach that can bring some long-term success to the program, regardless of who gets hired and fired in the interim and what color his skin is.
December 2nd, 2008 at 8:35 pm
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Kerwin4two says:
One thing that University Presidents and Distinguished Alumni look for is guys who have a connection to a firner ciacg. Son’s of coaches are much more likely to get a crack than other guys. Look, I’m not saying they don’t have a better idea of how football works after sitting at the knee of a learned sage. But the problem isn’t at the headcoach position, the problem is at the entry level position. If the spawn of Bowden, etc take the entry level job that would have been done just as well by an African American kid. When does that kid get a chance to break in?
December 2nd, 2008 at 9:06 pm
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frinklin says:
As a WSU Cougar, I’m stunned that UW isn’t making a run at Turner Gill. Then again, other than Pat Hill and various blind hopes for Jim Mora, what the hell is UW doing?
Then again, this Belotti to AD and Chip Kelly to HC stuff at Oregon might put Chris Peterson back in play.
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:30 pm
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K says:
Two points.
First, as expected, I saw more than one negative comment on this thread, directed at entire groups in stereotype-fashion…and, as expected, all were aimed at Southerners, Mississippians, and other “troglodytes” of the melanin-deprived persuasion. The high priests of Tolerance strike again!
I understand that many of you get tired of folks who have a chip on their shoulder about this, Southerners especially–heck, I get tired of it too–but you should take a moment to ask whether they have a point nevertheless. Whether, in fact, it is perfectly acceptable to run folks down as a group using stereotypes, so long as they are not part of a Designated Victim Group; whereas if they are, political correctness obligates us to tap-dance ever so gingerly around their every last sensitivity.
I personally have a problem with both ends of that equation.
Second, I am breathlessly awaiting the great “Why are there so few white people in pro basketball?” thread. The percentages are even more out of whack there…surely this is a problem in even more urgent need of a solution?
December 2nd, 2008 at 10:36 pm
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drb says:
Mike Locksley (illinois OC) is another good one, he interviewed for Clemson.
Outstanding recruiter.
December 2nd, 2008 at 11:11 pm
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Techie says:
While I agree on most of the merits of the issue at hand, but as a “Southern Football fan”, #65, put up or shut up. I eagerly await all the minority candidates hired at Washington, Syracuse, Kansas St. and looking in the recent past, LOLMichigan, Nebraska, Illinois, and the like?
Yes, that notorious Jim Crow and Slave state, Hawaii, is also on the list.
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:59 am
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jegtar says:
3 words: Billy Dee Williams
December 3rd, 2008 at 1:18 am
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Papa Lou BSU says:
An excellent, thought-provoking post, Orson. Although you may get an argument from Bears fans these days about Lovie Smith being a good coach (at minimum, the guy surrounds himself with crappy coordinators… bleeping Ron Turner and his infatuation with the no-lead-blocker fullback dive in short-yardage situations…)
“Ty Willingham has proved beyond any doubt that he is not a good head coach, but people are STILL knocking Notre Dame for firing him. If he was some old white guy who got shiatcanned for stinking up South Bend, nobody would be talking about it four years later.”
Maybe. Or maybe it might help ND’s cause if they didn’t just retain a white coach who has a worse record, percentage-wise, after four seasons than the black coach they wasted no time in firing after three.
[/Not saying... just saying.]
December 3rd, 2008 at 1:25 am
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Mr. Pelican Pants says:
I think Alabama knows a thing or recently learned a thing about coaching hires. One has to wonder where the program would be if we would have hired Croom, who was considered for the job. To sidestep all of this, once Shula was fired, they simply stated that
“Alabama will be looking for a PROVEN head coach.”
Which is code for : We already have Nick Saban at the end of the NFL season, the rest of this search is for show, like the WWE. I dont think there is a law or requirement to interview Black Head Coaches or candidates like in the Pros. So basically, universities will hire and fire who they want., most of them being white. Many know most university presidents are pressured by the BOT and boosters, and they pay most salaries of the staff, so they do have a say in who gets interviewed or who they want coaching their team.
And most of the coaches searches are done thru the AGENTS, so you can start there. Follow the money, you will have your answer. What black Head Coaching candidates were interviewed by Tennessee? Clemson? Syracuse? Out of all the vacancies this year, who will get the Black guy? Maybe Miss St……but how will that look?
December 3rd, 2008 at 1:49 am
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Panther Pounce says:
I agree that the trouble starts with there being more white GAs than black GAs. The answer to this is far less entertaining/controversial than one might imagine: it’s because white kids ride the bench and therefore have nothing else to do but dream of being coaches. Remember the old phrase, “Those who can, do. Thos who can’t, teach” ? Insert “coach” for “teach” and you have your answer.
Don’t believe me? Take a look at any given game on any given Saturday. Who is the dork wtih the headset, giving the signals to the starters on the field? That’s right. It’s your next GA.
December 3rd, 2008 at 2:37 am
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InsaneCoachPosse says:
Orson, as to the “troll” reference….
I resemble that remark…
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:51 am
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DevilGrad says:
As far as I can tell, the thread was won by posts #43 and #63, and the rest of the thread is merely a pale imitation of a radio talk show that has taught me little about the issue but much about the plight of oppressed Southern white boys.
The comment about position coaching salaries particularly hit home. Within a year or two out of school, you can make more money taking a HS teaching/coaching job, than you can working as a position coach at my alma mater. It’s a persistent issue in attracting talent of any variety.
So, here’s the question: Since coaches undeniably do tend to hire younger coaches and GAs from their personal networks, how do we get them to cast a broader net?
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:54 am
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adolph oliver bush says:
Orson:
This is my favorite website on the internet(s). I visit EDSBS at least three times daily. It is a nice contrast to my job, which is highly stressfull and demanding. I come here to laugh, and to get some actual news without the message board trash. Your humor is smart, and I greatly appreciate it.
I want to offer a bit of unsolicited constructive criticism. Arguably, the biggest game in the history of the SEC is going to be played Saturday between my team and your team. Highly charged political topics like minority hiring should be saved for the post season, when we have nothing left to discuss. If I wanted to read/write about controversial social/legal issues, I’d go back to the brief I’m supposed to be working on instead of visiting your site. Now gimmie some footbawl!
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:54 am
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The Snake will Drive Again! says:
Slow morning here in the cube so I actually read all 82 posts. Some very good, and not so good, points made by both camps, including my Bama bretheren. The ‘dumb white guy from the south’ response was expected and delivered on cue as was the ‘you yankees can kiss my ass’ rebuttal. Not exactly earth shattering commentary.
I think the bottom line is the stat from Orson: 3 out of 119 coaches are black. Regardless of your opinion, that is incredibly out of balance. What’s the fix? Obviously no one here is enlightened enough to provide an answer. It appears 116 college presidents aren’t either.
Southern Bama grad dorky white guy out.
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:34 am
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hobeg8r says:
@79 – to prove your point…..Brian Schottenheimer. (Marty’s kid). Told his dad that he wanted to coach someday since he would never make it as a pro player. Dad said – go to UF (as a backup QB) and learn at the feet of the master – Steve Spurrier.
Maybe there is that glass ceiling for black players. (If you don’t think you’re going to ever be a head coach – what is the point of trying?)
Someone else said it best – pay the GA’s alot more $$ -
I would add – …. and go out of your way to recruit black assistants.
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:46 am
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Techie says:
Well, IMO, it begins at the GA level. GAs become Ass. Coaches, then queue up for the 8-10 D1-A openings each year.
One thing that puzzles me is that something like ~21% of Men’s Basketball coaches are black, so how are the supposed racist ADs and alumni boosters avoiding hiring black FB coaches but apparently have no issue hiring black BB coaches?
This leads me to think it’s a kink in the “system” rather than an overarching conspiracy growing unchecked in the most PC portion of America.
(tts dated last year, but this is the only concise link I could find with a quick search: http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/stories/053007aao.html )
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:23 am
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El Kabong!!! says:
I don’t know if I will end up with the last comment, or if people are even still reading this thing.
The people throwing around the “dumb southern redneck” shit can eat my ass with a spoon. They seem to be the only people that it is still ok to discriminate against 100% of the time.
There have been some good points put up here, but let’s throw out a few more:
Out of all the openings that have come up in the last three years, how many have been filled by people who did not have head coaching experience?
In 2007, there were eighteen openings.
Six were filled by people with no prior head coaching experience. (You could almost count Bill Stewart here, except for a short stint at VMI).
Out of those six, three were hires from personnel already on the coaching staff. One of those was a minority hire, with Ken Niumatalolo at Navy.
So we have three positions that were filled by people with no prior head coaching experience:
Bo Pelini, at Nebraska
Larry Fedora, Southern Miss
Kevin Sumlin, Houston
Out of three potential positions, one, or 33.4%, were filled by a black candidate.
All three of the hires have an impressive resume, and it is difficult to put up another black candidate that is more deserving than they are.
If I get the energy, I can go back down and do 2006, 2005, etc., but I think a point has been made.
Please, please, please, understand that I am not a racist and would not care if Alabama hired an all black staff and only recruited black players. I don’t care, I just want a team to win.
But I will not ever approve of a coach not getting hired because he is not black, just as I wouldn’t approve of a coach not getting hired because he is black.
Is it a problem? Yes. Is it a big, grand conspiracy by The Man to keep black coaches down? Good grief, no.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:29 am
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JoeTiger says:
Here is the reason there are not very many black football coaches in NCAA football:
Ask the black college players what their plans are after college and they will say Pro football.
Ask the white college players what their plans are after college and they will say they want to coach.
Ten years later the black players are coming off their NFL careers and the white players have been coaching for ten years. It’s hard to make up that time quickly.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:59 am
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Goatroper says:
@35……FAIL….See Dabo Swinney.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:19 am
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WordBearer says:
My Coogs just went with Kevin Sumlin and he has been no different than Art Briles. Both are adept at putting inconsistent teams on the field and can not game plan to save their lives. It is a great day when you no longer notice a man’s race, but only that he sucks as a head coach.
How about Hispanic coaches? Can there be incentives to hire them? Maybe they get to fit three recruits into each scholarship spot?
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:37 am
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rick marbles says:
I dont know much about this issue at all, but it seems the less than 3% head coaches statistic needs to be examined. As one poster suggested, a head coach in college is the face of the program. Does this hurt recruiting amongst the talent pool, of which many if not the majority are black? If this is not the reason, then does it hurt donation amongst the alumni, many of which(especially the largest donors) are white? If this were true, and AD’s were aware and factored this into decision making, then this would be racism, if not directly bigoted, then at least reflecting more subtle prejudices. However, I wonder about the lower level positions not being filled. Some suggest that the jobs dont pay enough, etc, but why would this necessarily be a bar to blacks over whites? I don’t think the correlation is as obvious as some posters have suggested. This would be self-selected at best.
Other point to consider: If a degree is indeed required to enter the ranks of coaches, then we should look past the raw percentage of players by color, and instead look at players who are granted degrees by race. Also, what is the average SAT by race? If a preponderance of one race owns the lower quartiles, would this explain some of the exclusions of less educated players of one race from entering coaching tracks? How about players disciplined for behavior by race? This too might have an effect if there were a large statistical difference. Unfortunately, these data are likely unavailable, for a variety of reasons, but I would suspect that the same people who would endorse a quota type hiring scheme would also suppress such information if it was politically unpalatable.
December 5th, 2008 at 9:42 pm