Penalize the Wings Dept:

I like the poll.

Few complaints:

LSU ranked? What a bunch of losers.

Oregon? I think Nike actually put wings on their uniforms this week. I would knock them out of any poll for doing such a dastardly thing.

LSU no no no no no. No.

no.

I’d sooner rank Nebraska or something.

ACC Football: A Three Month Experience in Room 101 at The Ministry of Love.

(FSU/UNC as the frontrunners yesterday, Maryland/Miami as leaders today. It’s all 2+2=5 at this point. Just make the madness end already.)

After looking at the teams that just got left out, I guess ranking LSU isn’t quite as ludicrous as I originally thought. But teams I would have ahead of them: Ball State, North Carolina, Northwestern, maybe Florida State and BC.

Maryland being ranked playing an unranked FSU team should indicate a ’Noles victory, if preliminary indications hold true. Respect the chaos.

I’d bump BC in (at 25), move Ball State up one, and knock LSU out. Of course, knocking LSU out seems to be easy for teams with some semblance of talent, woooooo.

Also, what is this sunlight you speak of? I thought that was only in the summer…or is that when the sky gets mildly less gray? I love Pennsylvania.

Sunlight Dept:

In Los Angeles it is over 80 degrees right now with lots of sun, but……

….a little thing called smoke from fires surronding LA and the OC is blocking a good deal of the sun…

…ashes and that awful smoke smell are everywhere…

…ah, let’s get out of the real world again….

..Notre Dame sucks!!!!

Can’t spell ‘surrounding’…must be the !# smoke….

I agree that the Top 25 should be curtailed to the top 15 because college football has reached a low this year. There is just a lot of BAD football being played this year. How else to explain UGA at 9-2 looking as fundamentally lost as they have?

As I posted today, if I have to think anymore about the ACC race and where teams fit in the bowl pecking order…I’m going to get a migraine. And why in the hell are the two Big East teams that high?

http://www.tidesports.com/
check out the 12:05 minute mark for Saban warming up the sulfur and brimstone

@ Meg

How the hell IS UGA 9-2? I don’t think I’ve seen a more fraudulent 9-2 since Alabama in 2005 (or OSU in any year…zzzzinnng). There is no justice in the universe that Ole Miss has 6 wins and the Dawgs have 9. Ask yourself (or Tebow), who would you rather play on a neutral field…at this moment.

Meg: A little generous with that 15, aren’t you?

SpartanDan:

LSU (based on descriptions) would appear to have played like a solid Top 25 team for nearly a quarter. Surely that counts for something.

Marcillac: They also played like Washington State for a half.

@ 11. that “fraudulent” 2005 Alabama team was robbed by the officials for one of their two losses all year, and finished 10-2 and ranked #8 in the AP.

sucks to be you doesn’t it? i mean even Eli didn’t do all that much, til he became a Giant. yep, sucks to be you…

I don’t why I like to argue other ballots, but I just can’t fathom how BYU is over TCU, when the head-to-head between them was so lopsided. Yes, so very little is at stake, but I tend to think that TCU is underrated (and I’m not a Horned Frog partisan – I’m a Northwestern nerd).

@ 11

AND that fraud of an Alabama team were unstoppable until Prothro’s won the Joe Theisman World’s Gruesomest Injury of the Year Award

Just when this weekend couldn’t get any better with a 50-point Gator win…Gerg is gone!

@16 and 14.

I’m a bama alum and bama fan. That was the ugliest 10-2, until UGA this year (and, yes, we got the fuck job no-call push off bullshit in Baton Rouge).

That’s a really tough Bama team to parse – they kept winning for a while after Prothro went down (shudder), but the margins shrank from solid to miniscule. A pretty rare example, I think, of a non-QB injury having such an immediate and dramatic effect.

No ND in the top 25?! A team that is so good it can survive 4 turnovers and 2 onside kicks and still beat Navy! Surely they deserve it. (I kid, I kid).

I am not a Weis basher, but what a hit in the balls to see what the Gators are doing with Meyer.

As far as the Florida goes, they are sick good, but Demps, Harvin, and Rainey are clearly overrated. They might be the fasted players in college football, but wouldn’t even be allowed to run in Jamaica. So there. Think I’m gonna move to Jamaica, seriously.

Bama in 2005 lost in OT to LSU on a Bowe TD catch. The no call on the pushoff in BR was another year.

The thing with LSU is that, sure, they looked like complete arse for 45 the othre day, but on a neutral field are you really going to take Maryland over the tigahs? BC?…Ball State?…TCU?…

They may get their ranking by default but so would anyone that replaced them.

Hell yes I would take those teams, Phocion. Have you watched that abortion of an LSU team? They have no business being in a bowl game, let alone in the top 25. Just terrible, terrible football. Every decent team they play absolutely annihilates them.

No, no, no, no, no, no on LSU. No.

And Cincy and Pitt in the teens but the ACC teams all stuck on the outside? You can’t seriously think that Pitt and Cincy wouldn’t be buried in the ACC this year.

Look at it this way, Erik…

If LSU had a quarterback who scores more points AGAINST his team than FOR his team, they’d probably be a one-loss team right now.

What I’m saying is… Lee is quite possibly the worst QB in the SEC not in a Tennessee Jersey, and the Tigers are winning anyway. That’s gotta be worth SOMETHING.

I totally meant that if LSU DIDN’T have a Pick-6 machine…

Because they do.

And it’s horrifying to watch.

Aunt, if, balls, uncle, etc.

I am sympathetic to the quarterbackless plight of LSU fans, but that doesn’t make the team any better.

Question- would LSU actually be a better team if they just started Charles Scott and ran Wild-um.. Bengal? All game?

Erik, you say of LSU:
Every decent team they play absolutely annihilates them.

Wouldn’t that mean if LSU was in the ACC, Big East, or Big 10, they’d be conference champs? You know, since they wouldn’t get annihilated based on your assessment.

That 2005 Bama team was ugly on offense, but was a thing of beauty on defense.

Tempebamafan,

Then you have no problem giving back that Cotton Bowl trophy, since your touchdown was scored after the WR had a knee down.

I would be more than happy to have a rematch in Miami to settle things once and for all.

Yeah, because none of the teams in those conferences have ESSS EEEEE SEEEE SPEEEED.

Go play in traffic.

Only one real issue here…..Utah beats a 1-10 non-BCS team, Ohio State beats a 5-5 BCS team(both impressively, despite OSU giving up a late, meaningless score), and Utah jumps OSU?

I’m confused.

Erik

LSU has lost to the only decent teams it has played…funny thing is those teams are currently ranked #1, #4, and #12. Georgia, the #12 team, is the worst of the teams that LSU has lost and they have only lost to the same other two teams, #1 and #4. Like it was wiritten above, their quaterback absolutely kills them yet only three teams have been able to beat them…perhas there is something to that. Now, I don’t give them credit beyond mid-teens, but seriously, BC over LSU? (I realize the colors on teh banner so LSU hatered is to be expected, but talking up bad football teams from Northeastern hockey schools is stretching it a bit.)

@32 -

OSU falling is easy to explain: WIth PSU already dropping a game and in danger of losing to MSU, thus forfeiting the Big Interger title to OSU, NO ONE wants OSU to be standing around with a chance to got to Miami if everything goes to hell in the next three weeks. They need to have their helmets and pads turned back into the equipment manager before the sun sets on January 1st.

Florida looks good, against so so competition….I think Florida may beat Alabama, simply by better QB play.
Alabama has a better defense than South Carolina,LSU,or Ole Miss, only problem is that if JPW cant sustain a drive, sooner or later the defense will get worn out and the dam will break….and then you will see Sabans head spontaneously combust on TV….We have alot to build on, and Saban and Meyer it looks to be a good rivalry for the future for the SEC Crown…All of this after only one decent recruiting class, and Urban has had at least 3 that I know of, I am interested to see a Saban team with 3 yrs of HIS talent stockpiled……But I will say this, the SEC, for all of the “bowl eligible” teams it will have, is one of the weakest lineups the SEC has ever put out in the past 5 yrs, so dont get ya feelings hurt when the Vandys, LSU,Kentuckys, Georgias, South Carolinas all get whacked or embarrassed.

If UF wins out, could we see a Bama-tOSU Sugar Bowl?

Here’s how I see the BCS potentially shaking out:

MNC Game
UF vs. Big 12 Champ (assuming they’re from the south)

Fiesta
Big 12 South runner-up vs. USC (assuming Ore. St. wins out)
 
Sugar
Bama vs. tOSU

Rose
PSU vs. Ore St.

Orange
ACC vs. Big East

Any thoughts?

Why not a Bama/ USC Sugar bowl?

Or is there some kind of incoherent BCS bullshit rule that would prevent said match up?

If Utah or Boise State don’t earn the automatic bid (and if the other don’t get an At-Large bid), that is a potential BCS selection result.

PW: Just one: you’re expecting Utah to lose to BYU which I can fathom. But how’s that work out for Boise State?

No, I’m afraid that tOSU is headed to Orlando to play the very well documented frauds that are the Georgia Bulldogs.

Jinx, General. Buy me a Coke.

Here’s my own BCS bowl projection.

NC: Texas Tech vs. Florida
Rose: Penn State vs. Oregon State
Fiesta: Texas vs. USC
Sugar: Alabama vs. Utah
Orange: Miami vs. Pittsburgh

What is this,i came to this site to read the latest greg robinson news/bashing… and now leave sorely disappointed…

@PW and John (and any other BCS guessers)

No at large team? Assuming BSU and Utah win out don’t they get a shot at something? I know what you are saying but I thought they would get some kind of invite over a very pissed off USC if da Beavers win out. I am just unsure how the BCS works with the ‘leftover’ non-bid teams in this crazy ass scenario.

Just curious, who here is dying to see the Big East or ACC team get fed to a really good and really pissed off team left out in the cold?

@33

Almost forgot… Erik, you’re gonna get us both killed.. :)

Read up…if Utah or BSU stay undefeated at least one of them should qualify for a BCS game per the guidlines:

“In addition, one conference champion from among Conference USA, Mid-American, Mountain West, Sun Belt, and Western Athletic Conferences will automatically qualify to play in a BCS bowl if it is:

(1) ranked among the top 14 teams in the final BCS standings; or

(2) ranked among the top 16 teams in the final BCS standings and ranked higher than the champion of one of the conferences whose champion has an annual automatic berth in a BCS bowl."

@ 32. what? three years later and this is the first i’ve heard of any T-Tech fans disputing calls in that game. but for the record; i do hope you get your rematch. i think we’ll see similar results with one major distinction, BAMA has an offense this year. Tide wins by more than 14.

@ 22. LSU got a BS-gift pass interference call late in the 4th quarter, that allowed them to tie the game, which they later won in OT. we straight up shat the bed vs barn and deserved to lose that game.

@Phocion….

I understand your point. In fact, I agree that, no matter what happens, OSU does not deserve the MNC game.

However, if the shit were to hit the fan so crazily(and we’re talking multiple drunken, laxative-fed apes flinging it levels of shit) that OSU were close to moving into position to play in that game, you could make that adjustment then. Until that point, you should leave well enough alone.

Especially, since OSU will likely have an SEC bowl opponent, so you could rip on the Bucks for “another highly ranked team losing to an SEC also-ran”.

Why is Alabama ranked over Tech? Alabama’s signature win — Georgia (certainly not Clemson or LSU) — looks less impressive each week; furthermore, they beat Kentucky and Mississippi by a total of only seven points. . . . Tech beat Texas and OSU, both of which are ranked well above Georgia.

Similarly, with all due respect to a Gator site, why is Florida ranked above Texas? Florida lost at home to an unranked team, while Texas lost on the road, on the last play of the game, to the second ranked team in the country (after beating the teams you have at 5, 11, and 14).

Ah yes, the 2005 Alabama team. What about that OTHER loss in that 10-2 season?

It was 21-0 in the first quarter, and Croyle had been sacked four times….on his way to a humiliating 11 sacks for the day. Auburn had 150 yards of offense in the first quarter to Bama’s……minus 6.

In case you have forgotten (though I KNOW you haven’t). The boys in blue making it look waaay too easy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYVEEeJ4RoM&feature=related

War Damn Eagle! Let’s do it again in 2008!

After that LSU/Troy game they dont need to be ranked anywhere. The talent is Top 10, but Les Miles has coached them right out of the Top 25. Jarrett Lee is purely a 2nd half quarterback.

If he would just stop trying to win the game by himself he’d be getting alot better, but he’s actually getting worse each week. Miles says he has “turned a corner” after the 2nd half comeback against Troy, but I remain unconvinced.

As someone who repeatedly calls for the mighty Ball State Cardinals to be ranked higher, I will say after the performance on Tuesday last, they didn’t look like a Top 25 team. We can earn our stripes this week against a very good central michigan team and next week against a talented western michigan team. of course, most everyone will dismiss it, and consider it ridiculous that a lowly MAC school would be good at all, but I hope you stick to your word O/S and reward accordingly.

Coach Giggity is will gladly remove LSU from your rankings this Saturday beginning at 2:30pm (cst). Incidentally, he knows just the team to replace them with.

@50,

An aub living in the past? Whaaaa?

Good luck holding on to all your 2-star commitments. I hear Troy and UAB are making serious pushes.

Criticism of LSU’s spot in the top 25 is like Churchill’s criticism of democracy. They’re the worst option except for every other option out there. LSU could run the ball up the middle every play and steamroll Ball State.

#37, that doesn’t work out unless there’s an epic-level collapse of non-BCS teams. Heck, I think if all the ranked non-BCS teams lose out, the MWC champ — no matter how the tiebreakers work — might well get in. Having said that, I think an Alabama/Ohio State Sugar Bowl is still pretty likely, like so…

MNC: Big 12 Champ vs. Florida
Rose: USC vs. Penn State
Fiesta: Big 12 #2 vs. Utah
Sugar: Alabama vs. Ohio State
Orange: ACC vs. Big East

The Big 10 teams are there because the Big 10 happens to be the second best conference this year, behind the Big 12. I know SEC fans think such a concept is damnable heresy, but it’s hard to argue the SEC is a 2 1/2 team conference: Florida, Alabama, and Georgia counts for the half. After that the SEC is mediocre to weak. The Big 10 at least has 3 solid teams and a couple of so-so teams in there as well. Their rankings are well-deserved.

“If UF wins out, could we see a Bama-tOSU Sugar Bowl?

Here’s how I see the BCS potentially shaking out:

MNC Game
UF vs. Big 12 Champ (assuming they’re from the south)

Fiesta
Big 12 South runner-up vs. USC (assuming Ore. St. wins out)

Sugar
Bama vs. tOSU

Rose
PSU vs. Ore St.

Orange
ACC vs. Big East

Any thoughts?"

As a USC fan, I obviously want them to win the Pac-10, but this year, unless they get to the BCS title game (which they won’t), it would really be better if they didn’t win the Pac 10.

I would love to see the Big 12 South No. 2 (or the loser of the SEC title game) play USC. So sick of the afterthough Rose Bowl shit-kicking matchups, though Penn St. v. USC might not be that bad.

I am not surprised, although still disappointed, that so few of the places that were whining about PSU being undeserving of an MNC shot don’t realize that we already opened up a can of whoop-ass on Oregon State, so a Rose Bowl with them would well and truly be the suck.

So quickly pollsters forget that Texas actually did play football against quality teams several weeks ago, let alone in consecutive weeks. also, they didn’t lose at home to a team who is now .500 in a conference that isn’t what it used to be. i don’t care if it was on a blocked PAT. Texas’ loss was to the number 2 team in the nation FWIW.

What several of these projections seem to miss out is that probably Utah or Boise St. will have an allocated slot in the BCS.

At this point you have to figure that the SEC and Big 12 are locks for two spots each unless some big upsets happen. That means that if Oregon State wins out then the last BCS at large spot would come down to a choice between a one-loss USC and tOSU. And that looks like a pretty easy choice.

If USC finishes second in the Pac-10, aren’t they contractually obligated to the Holiday bowl?

57- You might as well say the MAC is the second best conference.* The Big Ten is a joke this year. The conference has one good OOC win and a lot of close calls against 1-AA+ MAC teams. No one takes the conference seriously, and no one will until you can produce a conference champ capable of at least putting up some semblance of resistance against top competition.

• Our crap conferences are better than your crap conferences. Whoooo Sun Belt speeeed!