Smoke. Flames. Bodies everywhere. 56-6. If style points were awarded, they were strictly those of the Grand Guignol/ Marquis de Sade variety, and children should not have been permitted to witness them. If you were the ones being chased through a darkened castle by a man with a broadsword, it was not entertaining; however, if you were the sword-bearer, it most definitely was.
(Also, note to universe: Demps/Rainey/Harvin? UNFAIR.)
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51
SuperJew says:
TheMightyErik:
You have shit teams reign throughout two of the BCS leagues (Big East, ACC), very top heavy in three and a half (Pac-10, SEC, Big 10, Big 12 North), and a plethora of good teams in half (Big 12 South).
Is it too much for the Top 25 to represent 25 actual good teams?
November 15th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
52
Oranse Taylor says:
Thunderous thunder blows the windows open, the air turns to a pungent chowder of Sulphur and all the flowers in the room flop dead.
The U-NIVERSE responds.
CLINTON
Unfair?
GORE
Can we get a recount?
MCGAHEE
Now now, the Gator quarkback trio
are exciting, they just arent us.
November 15th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
53
SuperJew says:
After watching this BC/FSU game, I’m done with explaining the ACC. Just tell me when this roller coaster ride ends.
November 15th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
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TheMightyErik says:
Yeah, now I see what you are saying. My count of really good teams is somewhere around 10-12.
Troy State: way to go, losers. Just when I thought someone would put that final shovel full of dirt on LSU you let them out of the grave. That kind of crap lends serious weight to SuperJew’s complaint. 3 losses should not have a team hanging around the top 25. Weak.
November 15th, 2008 at 11:36 pm
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robert says:
That was absurd. Good luck in the SECCG (& MNCCG), Gators, but you obviously won’t need it.
November 15th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
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TheMightyErik says:
And the best part is: The ACC and Big Least get automatic bids. Yippee
November 15th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
57
Phocion says:
Hold on a second. Before we go conceding that the teams in the Big 12 South are so good let’s apply the same standard to them that others apply to the SEC.
Washington State, Houston, Missouri State, Troy, Florida Atlantic, UTEP, Arkansas, Rice, Chattanooga, Cincinnati, Washington, TCU, Eastern Washington, Nevada, SMU, and UMass
Those are the sum total of the non-conf teams that Tech, Texas, Oklahoma, and Ok. State have played. SO, if Alabama and Florida have locked up their invites by only playing chumps and a down SEC conf. schedule then what can we all say about the Big 12?
Looks like remarkably similar scheduling…and results.
November 15th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
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TheMightyErik says:
By many counts there are 3 really good teams in the south as OkieSt has lost a bit of shine which is only one more than the two good teams most credit the OMG ESS EEE CEE with. No one tried to shove the whole Big 12 south down your throat.
Whoa… that doesn’t read well, does it…
November 15th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
59
Vandy J says:
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO EAT IT BLUE MIST GIMMEH GIMMEH JACK DANIELS WOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
(throws up, passes out)
November 16th, 2008 at 12:04 am
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THETexasStateUniversity says:
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ONE MORE WIN AND TEXAS STATE GOES TO THE PLAYOFFS WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
*gloats at fans of schools that participate in shitty postseason system*
November 16th, 2008 at 12:28 am
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TheMightyErik says:
@60…
Lucky dog. Rumor has it your school wants to join the FBS in the next five years. Any idea which conference they will try to jump in with? I think it’s a shame because you really do have a nice playoff system in FCS and it will be a big shock to come play in the ridiculous BCS structure after that
November 16th, 2008 at 12:36 am
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THETexasStateUniversity says:
@61…assuming we even can make the jump (which is not certain at this point):
We want: Conference USA or the WAC
We probably can’t afford: The WAC
We’ll probably really get: The Sunbelt.
At least we can maybe renew our rivalry with North Texas or something.
November 16th, 2008 at 12:40 am
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THETexasStateUniversity says:
(by the way the comment below is all a ruse to disguise our intention of kicking Baylor out of the Big 12 South)
November 16th, 2008 at 12:42 am
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TheGhostofJayCutler says:
Is anybody watching Lou Holtz and Mark May yell at each other in this lame-ass moot court thing on ESPN right now? Hilarity.
November 16th, 2008 at 12:44 am
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SuperJew says:
JayCutler:
Yes. I think Lou Holtz and Mark May really, really hate each other.
November 16th, 2008 at 12:48 am
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peachy says:
I flipped over to UCLA-Washington during that segment… could ESPN find two more annoying ‘analysts’? (Not that I’m asking them to try – because I bet they could. ESPN’s talented that way, the fuckers.)
November 16th, 2008 at 12:57 am
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Studley says:
Per Dr. Lou: FAMU’s mascot is named “Veenum”.
November 16th, 2008 at 12:59 am
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Unconscious says:
Can we talk about the gambler’s delight (or horror) that was the end of Stanford-USC? I had USC -23.5 as the last game in one of my three-team parlays. USC tied and droning on until suddenly it opens a can and takes a solid 20-point-lead. A garbage-time TD with 1:33 left and USC is covering. But then… Stanford returns the KO to their own 40… and then… gets 1st down after 1st down, eventually driving to the 15 with 3 seconds left and setting up to kick a FG to cut it to a harmless 25-point USC win… but then CARROLL calls timeout, grins at Harbaugh, daring him to go for the TD… which he does, and Stanford converts with no time left to leave me once again awed by the power of Vegas.
November 16th, 2008 at 1:15 am
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Reasonable_Bama_Fan says:
Can’t we just stop all this interconference sniping and concentrate on the fact that Da U is going to be really, really good again, and soon. We the forces of Good must unite and prevent this from happening.
November 16th, 2008 at 1:31 am
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Rawk says:
Reasonable_Bama_Fan, “We” the forces of Good? You aren’t gonna find a lot of people here willing to tag up with Bama to prevent a kitty holocaust, more or less the rising of The U.
Plus, why stop Miami now? Everyone now has this odd fascination for our program, like Miami possibly the next Katrina, but isn’t expected to make landfall until 2010, so everyone just watches it either trash or flame out against little islands in the Caribbean and figures they will plan for when it hits landfall sometime in the future and the danger is more imminent. It works for them…
November 16th, 2008 at 2:09 am
71
Terrance Cody says:
Sweet Baby Jesus….I can easily see a 56-24 Florida romp in the Dome right now. I guess going 12-1 ain’t too bad….ever since that Ole Miss loss, Tebow & Co. have been getting their inner Viking on as they rape and pillage the SEC. I can only pray that my beloved team gets a swift death. It’s coming. I just feel the impending doom. I’m bringing whiskey, a diaper and some mace to the Georgia Dome Dec. 6.
November 16th, 2008 at 6:50 am
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PW says:
Let me give you guys a scenario and you tell me what you think will and/or should happen:
OU beats TT, causing a 3-way tie for 1st in B12 South. Let’s say OU has the highest BCS rating and plays Mizzou…and loses. Also, let’s say UF beats Alabama.
Obviously UF would be in the BCSCG, but who would join them? None of the teams with a real shot of getting there would be conference champions (assuming Ore St wins out). I remember saying last year that I wanted to see a Georgia-LSU BCSCG, but was repeatedly told that a team that didn’t make it’s conference championship game shouldn’t play for the MNC. Similar logic applied the previous year, keeping Michigan out of the BCSCG.
November 16th, 2008 at 7:47 am
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TJ says:
I remember saying last year that I wanted to see a Georgia-LSU BCSCG, but was repeatedly told that a team that didn’t make it’s conference championship game shouldn’t play for the MNC.
I think most people would say that a non conference champion shouldn’t play for the MNC if there’s another viable conference champion. In your scenario there are no 1-loss conference champions other than Florida, so I think then you start looking at the non champs out of necessity. Of course then when you look you realize it’s just a clusterfuck, and then you do dumb things like start considering Utah…
If your scenario happens, December 7 is going to be an interesting day.
November 16th, 2008 at 8:19 am
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TJ says:
And with Michigan in ‘06, don’t forget that the voters were perfectly willing to vote them into the MNC over 1-loss Big East champ Louisville. So even in ‘06 the Conference Champion argument wasn’t overwhelming by itself.
November 16th, 2008 at 8:27 am
75
Graysnail says:
How bad this weekend was, according to ESPN Classic: the Game of the Week is Maryland / North Carolina. The game that only had three points scored in the second half. The game involving two ACC teams.
November 16th, 2008 at 9:42 am
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PW says:
TJ-
Penn St. would be a 1-loss conference champion. I guarantee UF would end up playing Texas under my scenario, though (or alternatively, Oklahoma , if Texas ended up losing to Mizzou in the B12CG).
Depending on the UF-Bama score (let’s say UF wins 13-10 in 2OT), Bama could make a decent case for being there too. I think the antipathy is for 2 teams from the same conference playing for the MNC, not necessarily for a non-conference champion playing for it.
November 16th, 2008 at 9:47 am
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heyberto says:
How appropriate that Spurrier gets a little taste of his own medicine… at the hands of his former team no less. God has a sense of humor. My guess is the same will happen to Urban when he takes that job with New England and comes back to College Football when he fails at that level like Spurrier.
November 16th, 2008 at 11:16 am
78
Mich-Placed Gator says:
OK, now HERE’S a toughie….
…against The Citadel, do we rest him or not?
….since the Ole Miss game Jonathan Phillips has had to kick 39 extra points.
I say rest him so he can be ready for the final stretch run
November 16th, 2008 at 11:16 am
79
Stacy Kiebler Luvs Me says:
Where is the Respect Dept:
The OBC was treated terribly yesterday. After the game was out of hand, why keep on rubbing it in with key starters still in the game? Click-Clack put Florida on the map and that is the way he is treated?
Why risk Tebow? Harvin? blah, blah, blah???
Against the Citadel only second and third stringers should play quarters 2, 3 and 4.
November 16th, 2008 at 11:44 am
80
Jmuthaf'nT says:
I wonder what the new equivalent is of a werewolf with a chainsaw for a dick, because I saw it yesterday in gville
November 16th, 2008 at 11:51 am
81
Mich-Placed Gators says:
Memo From the Respect Dept:
There can be NO RESPECT in this bullshit BCS system. When you play the #1 defensive team in your conference, you MUST hang as many points on them as you can for any chance to make it to the “big dance”.
Style points matter, lop-sided victories matter, and the TDs that Tebow didn’t get a chance to score against Vandy, Georgia and the other games where he was pulled from in 3rd or early 4th QTR matter to his heisman chances.
Why isn’t Texas or Texas Tech taking their QBs out of games early? Maybe cuz they have NO DEFENSE and must score 7 or 8 TDs a game to have a chance of winning?
Personally, I want to witness Tebow being the 1st player to ever collect 3 Heismans, 3 SEC Championship rings, and 3 National Championship rings. In today’s college football atmosphere, you can’t do that by taking your foot off the opposition’s throat, or by showing mercy and not curb-stomping their skulls into little tiny pieces each and every week.
I for one, felt kinda sorry for Spurrier yesterday, and respect him a great deal. He’s a Gator and always will be.
Don’t take to beat down personally….the OBC didn’t.
November 16th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
82
Meg says:
Ah, Mich-placed Gator, now I know why I cheer for every miserable Florida season as possible. They destroy people like you. Tebow/Meyer could win the SEC 3x and still be classy. If they take care of business there, they would have a chance to win three national titles without embarrassing lesser teams. As for the Heisman race, well you have me there. Big stats are where it is at, but the award itself is ridiculous. Can one guy really be THE best college player? Think about last year. Tebow was important to the Gators, but Oregon completely fell apart when Dixon went down–so isn’t that even more reason to vote for him. Besides, such individual honors should be beneath such an upstanding guy like Tebow.
Basically, Florida likes to run up the score because that is who they are, not because of any necessity.
November 16th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
83
History_Ant says:
Based on the 1996 Fiesta Bowl/Nebraska incident, I would bet Spurrier actually would be upset if you didn’t keep running up the score, playing your players, etc.
November 16th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
84
Mich-Placed Gator says:
Meg,
What part of my very first sentence did you not understand? Florida slept walked thru the game against Ole Miss, and because of that loss, they must destroy every one else for a chance to make it to the MNC game.
Most people believe they are most likely one of the two top teams in the country, but because we are in the age of the BCS, where multiple polls and computer rankings determine what 2 teams, regardless of whether they win their conference, make it to the MNC game, teams must get noticed in a big way.
I would venture to guess that 75% of the people who vote in either poll do one thing before they place their vote…look at the final score. Florida wins “classy” yesterday by a score of 28 to 17 and they think “hummm…maybe Florida isn’t red hot anymore”. They don’t take into consideration that UF’s 2nd and 3rd string played the entire 2nd half.
If Florida had won all the games since the Ole’ Miss slip up by, let’s say a “classy” margin of 10 to 14 points, do you really think they would get the nod over a one loss Penn St., one loss Texas, one loss TT, or one loss USC team…not to mention a zero loss Utah or zero loss Boise St. team?
There’s no bonus points for staying “classy”.
As far as the Heisman, I’m absolutely positive that I (and other Gator fans) care WAY more about it than Tebow does. He is an upstanding young man and a very positive roll model, whether you or anyone else outside the Gator Nation cares to admit it or not.
…and Florida isn’t running up the score because of “who they are.” Urban Meyer is being paid millions of dollars a year (like many other coaches) to do one thing. Bring championships to his employer…THE University of Florida.
Right now you hate him for one reason and one reason only, because he is doing it better than your coach.
It’s a game, not life….and the ends DO justify the means.
November 16th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
85
Stacy Keibler Luvs Me says:
Stupidity Dept:
#84, Mich Gator: If your ultimate goal is to win the MNC, why risk losing key players in meaningless moments of games, especially when the whole footbaw world has the SEC champ in the Bs-BCS game? Tebow was thisclose to getting plastered against USC-east yesterday.
The chin-less wonder needs to get smarter.
November 16th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
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Mich-Placed Gator says:
I think the media makes more of the “take a player out so he don’t get hurt” argument than what it really worth.
Sure, I wonder about the same thing. But usually the moment you start playing “not to get hurt” is the moment you do get hurt.
I think I’ve seen more knees blown out on people standing on the sideline to past few years than blown out on the field.
..and does a player stay sharp and focused if he’s only playing a half every game? What’s that? 5 or 6 offensive drives? Maybe 8 or 10 passes?
..and where does this paranoid thinking stop? Do you show up at Tebow and Harvin’s dorm room daily and wheel them to class in a wheel chair so they don’t twist on ankle on the side walk?
November 16th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
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TheMightyErik says:
I really don’t think that margin of victory is as important as everyone thinks it is, anymore. Your program’s name alone will sway the votes and if that name is an OMG ESS EEE CEE team you are going to pull more votes than PSU, USC, Utah, etc because everyone has conceded for the last 1000 years that your conference should not only be awarded a berth in the MNC every year, but the Superbowl, as well.
Anyone who knows anything about college football knows that it’s not always if you lose a game, but when you lose it. Lose early and people will forgive and forget down the line. USC lost early to OrSt and they can’t shake it while UF lost to Ole Miss and it’s all ok, now. That has nothing to do with the final scores but more that USC is plagued by the Pac 10.
While I am no fan of USC I would be bitching like hell and if I were a fan of UF I would be damn happy where I am and stop posting this ‘don’t take your foot off the gas’ horseshit. If Tebow or whoever ended up jacked folded the wrong way on the field while you were up 35 I would honestly say that you had it coming to you and I hope your shit sandwich comes with ’slaw or fries.
November 16th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
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Carolina girl says:
Mich- have you ever seen what people do to their own homes when they are foreclosed upon? Angry, frustrated, wanting to get even. Imagine being a 20 year old angry, embarrassed football player with adrenaline pumping and Tebow in your sights. The machine takes over really. MAIM! KILL! CIRCUMCISE!
November 16th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
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Mich-Placed Gator says:
Erik,
How soon you forget….2004, Auburn 13-0
…and maybe the PAC-10 should become the PAC-12 so they can have north and south divisions, and then USC (the winner of the south) could have a rematch with those hairy beavers (the winner of the north), and could over come that slip-up. That’s what REAL conferences do anyway.
That goes for you Big-10 homers too. Just add Notre Lame, and please STOP IT with the “we gotta be done playing “football” by Thanksgiving” BS.
OMG, what a novel idea, an 8 team play-off, with the winner of each conference championship game getting an invite. Then maybe staying “classy” could actually work.
November 16th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
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meg says:
Basically, Mich, you are wanting the cake and the taste. You want to blow-up teams, but also want people to like you/your team, or at least rationalize why that team is what they are. Honestly, my supreme dislike for Meyer has nothing to do with what is on the field. I can acknowledge he is a very good coach. I just think he is a small egomaniac who more times than not is the first coach throwing anyone and everyone under the bus when things don’t go right. Let’s not even get started on his “no tolerance ( if you aren’t a starter) ” policy. He obviously cares more about winning a MNC than just about anything else, and he is willing to do anything to get there. Fine. He has accomplished his goals. I just love it when Florida fans wonder why others are so happy to stick it to them when the chance arises. As for Tebow, I have nothing against him except that he can’t be bothered to shake hands after a loss. In every other aspect, he appears to be a very fine young man.
November 16th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
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TheMightyErik says:
Mich:
Auburn 2004… yeah, that ‘awesome’ team that beat VT 16-13 while USC beat OU by 36. You did not want a piece of that team that year so be happy running around with Utah fans from ‘04 holding up a ‘we got screwed’ sign in front of all the undefeated Penn State, Boise State, Utah, Marshall, Tulanes and other undefeated teams that got no shot at it over the years.
As for your $EC championship game and your REAL conference, let us not forget that the game was not invented for BCS purposes but for revenue purposes many years earlier. Should every conference have a championship game? Sure why not and any reasonable fan from those conferences would agree. The conference championships allow the 12 and the SEC that one last shot at the polls when everyone else is idle so enjoy that gift as long as you can. Most of the Big 10 ‘homers’ and Pac 10′ers all want a conference championship but the presidents are too happy playing it out in the Rose Bowl in that antiquated tie-in.
And for the 8 team playoff? Thanks for joining the rest of the world who wants one…
November 16th, 2008 at 4:12 pm
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Mich-Placed Gator says:
Oh come on Erik, you should know by now that games must be settled on the field.
You can’t assume that Team A would kill Team B on any given Saturday based on how Team A performed against Team C and Team B performed against Team D. In the words of Chris Berman “that’s why they play the games”
As far as the BCS and the bowl system in general, people will argue until the cows come home about this, but there’s no doubt in my mind that a playoff system can be developed and implemented that would bring in just as much revenue and generate just as much interest as what we have now.
November 16th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
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www.southbendblarney.com says:
I think the big 12 qbs (McCoy, Bradford, and Harrell) are all better than Tebow. Plus, I don’t think they like to touch penis like Tebow does, which makes them better people as well.
November 16th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
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Mich-Placed Meg Lover... says:
Meg,
Can you give me an example of a starter with a disipline problem that Meyer dealt with lighter than he would a non-starter? …or an example of “he sold his soul to win?” All I’ve seen or read about the man differs from your opinion.
I wasn’t aware that Tebow didn’t shake hands after a loss or acted in any unsportsman like manner while at UF.
November 16th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
95
TheMightyErik says:
Mich-
I am in complete agreement with you on the playoff thing. It sickens me that FBS is the only division of really any organized sport that does this crap and we will be stuck with it for years to come. Even Obama said he would like to see one and the BCS oversight committee president hammered his suggestion down a day later. If the president (elect) can’t get the BCS to listen I have no idea how long we will be suffering through this.
–Screw it… I am gonna start watching D1AA…. errrr… the FCS. GO CAL POLY SAN LUIS OBISPO MUSTANGS!!! I swear I am going to buy a shirt online right now..
November 16th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
96
zzgator says:
Does Meg ever post about anything on here except her hatred of Urban Meyer?
Just wondering.
November 16th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
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Jspur says:
@94
South Carolina @ Florida 2006
Jarvis Moss was caught smoking pot the week before that game, and Meyer “wasn’t notified” until a few days after the game.
He would later go on to block what would be the game-tying extra point and game-winning field goal.
Yes, I’m still bitter about that.
November 16th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
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Mich-Placed Gator says:
@ 97
Funny how history gets skewed to support one’s opinion:
Here’s what actually happened, in the words of online news reports that I can find. I remembered Moss getting in trouble for that, but could not remember the timing.
Several outlets are reporting that last Saturday’s kick blocking hero Jarvis Moss will be suspended for failing a drug test.
WCJB-TV 20 Sports has learned Florida defensive end Jarvis Moss has been suspended for Saturday’s game against Western Carolina. Moss tested positive for marijuana. After practice Tuesday night, Gator head coach Urban Meyer would only say “We’re dealing with something right now, but I’m not ready to announce that.”
…and you remember Florida’s best defensive lineman, Marcus Thomas? I do. Meyer did what he had to with him too:
from ESPN “Jarvis Moss, suspended for a game for marijuana use, went to Denver, which on Sunday drafted another “problem player” from the Gators, defensive tackle Marcus Thomas in the fourth round.
Thomas is considered to have first-round talent. But after being suspended for a game last season for marijuana use, he was kicked off the team by coach Urban Meyer for leaving Gainesville with friends to go to Orlando against Meyer’s orders.”
November 17th, 2008 at 7:27 am
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chg says:
@91- Auburn would have been as hopelessly overmatched against shiny Southern Cal as that poor 1992 Alabama team or the sorry 2006 Florida. Between teams like that and the SEC’s piss poor record in BCS games, I have no idea why their teams keep getting voter love.
November 17th, 2008 at 9:47 am
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prettyjeremy says:
hey meg dont even listen to them.
p.s-u can PM on me aim~ prettyjeremy777
what u look like?
November 17th, 2008 at 4:44 pm