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MARK DANTONIO JUST CLIMBED FROM HIS COCOON INTO IDIOT STATUS

There's a finite amount of things to care about in this world. For instance, we gave up on our hair a long time ago; not only are we losing it, but it has never taken any defined shape whatsoever, and even at its most glorious it never really rose above "slickened by the oily floor of a bus station nap-spot" sheen of a homeless guy. Even when its clean and well-groomed, it's not.

It's good that we weren't blessed with an ounce of athletic talent, since in theory we could have gone to Michigan State, where Mark Dantonio requires his players to wear the least necessary and most phallic of fashion accessories, the necktie. Nothing substantial there, really: it's his business whether he wants to be an iron-rectum'd control freak or not, even if it does seem a little mock-Pattonish for our tastes.

Our greatest Americans, though, have always worn ties:


J Leman just wants to keep you safe, America.

When it really crosses the rubicon into the Kingdom of plug-assed stupid is hyah:

Why did left guard Mike Bacon start Saturday over Joel Foreman against Wisconsin?

"Well, do you really want to know or do you want me to give you some fabricated, made-up story?" Dantonio asked. "(Foreman) didn't have a tie on, OK? He didn't have a tie on."

Ties are required accessories for every player on Saturdays to complement suits worn during the team's traditional pregame walk from its on-campus hotel to Spartan Stadium.

"That speaks to the discipline of the program," Dantonio said. "He didn't have a tie on so he didn't start. That hurts our football team, but that's the way it's going to be."

Okay, the only official fucking idiot in the history of this blog was and is Dennis Franchione...but you're on the watch list, Mark Dantonio, starting now. When you bench Javon Ringer for eating his peas with a spoon next week, you will blossom into full moronhood.

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John L. Smith just slapped himself and said “why didn’t I think of that?”

by Crabapple Buck on Nov 4, 2008 1:20 PM EST reply actions  

I believe in proper grooming and look to the show “Mad Men” as a personal inspiration, but forcing a kid to wear a tie with his uniform is just senseless. That’s just asking for a DT to choke him out.

by Harris on Nov 4, 2008 1:26 PM EST reply actions  

I love it. After 7 years of lackadaisical coaching and idiocy from John L. Smith and Bobby Williams, it’s good to see Dantonio instilling some discipline into the program. Details, people, details.
That discipline has translated onto the field and resulted in an 8-2 record. Keep up the good work, MD!

And, Orson- everyone know a spork is the proper utensil for eating peas!

by Derrick in SD on Nov 4, 2008 1:40 PM EST reply actions  

The writer of this blog is none-too-bright, for not realizing that discipline and adherence to rules is one thing that separates winning programs from losers.

His players believe that order and following rules are the way for an undermanned team to achieve success.

And they’re correct.

by Scott J. on Nov 4, 2008 1:45 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe Urban Meyer could learn a thing or two from Dantonio’s approach to discipline. Didn’t you ask for that in your previous post, Orson?

by PSUfanNYC on Nov 4, 2008 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

Get that boy a clip on!

by ChasingMizzou on Nov 4, 2008 1:58 PM EST reply actions  

I agree. Neckties are hard to get on and even harder to get on right..Thanks Dr. Lou.

by J. Palmer on Nov 4, 2008 2:11 PM EST reply actions  

Dumb, maybe. But it sure beats the Bobby Williams era where players were dragging police down Harrison road.

Seriously, the two most dangerous words to your college town – “Players’ coach.”

by Ground Zero East Lansing on Nov 4, 2008 2:19 PM EST reply actions  

Dantonio looks like the creepy Walgreens worker that probably spends his free time luring children into his conversion van with candy that he stole from the previously mentioned Walgreens. So that’s why I don’t trust Dantonio.

by Jesus on Nov 4, 2008 2:25 PM EST reply actions  

…yes. Because discipline begins with the necktie.

by Orson Swindle on Nov 4, 2008 2:25 PM EST reply actions  

WTF is an on-campus hotel?

by PSUrob on Nov 4, 2008 2:27 PM EST reply actions  

  1. - Exactly what the description says – a hotel that is on MSU’s campus.

by Ground Zero East Lansing on Nov 4, 2008 2:29 PM EST reply actions  

FACT- Mark Dantonio only has two facial expressions: ANGER and VICTORY.

Also, it’s very possible that he made it up The last couple of weeks he’s gotten a lot of questions about a fight with some hockey players. Any player who hasn’t dressed with the team or has seen a change in playing time/position has basically been accused by the press of being involved. He’s probably really tired of the insinuations about his players.

Mark Dantonio deserves no crap after the way he told off Rob Parker for going after an innocent player. He gets a pass for the year as far as I’m concerned.

by Seer on Nov 4, 2008 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

Ties are from hell. Especially for individuals with oversized necks (e.g. most football players)

by Last Dragon on Nov 4, 2008 2:39 PM EST reply actions  

One other thing. In MSU’s 25-24 win over Wisconsin on Saturday MSU was flagged twice. Wisconsin was flagged 12 (!) times. Discipline was the difference between a Wisconsin and an MSU win. Given that the good doctor is trying to cure MSU of the “kill ourselves with botched plays and untimely penalties and turnovers” disease, rigid, dare I say “Spartan,” discipline is needed.

by Seer on Nov 4, 2008 2:40 PM EST reply actions  

I gotta side with Dantonio here. If you make a rule, and players break the rule, then there are consequences. Paying attention to details seems to have worked wonders for the Tide so far.

by BamaCPA on Nov 4, 2008 2:42 PM EST reply actions  

I bet he wears a tie next time.
I don’t get the rage over a coach enforcing discipline.

by chg on Nov 4, 2008 2:42 PM EST reply actions  

  1. - C’mon having a lot of penalties doesn’t matter. I mean look at the Bulld….fuck it, nevermind.

by OhioDawg on Nov 4, 2008 2:43 PM EST reply actions  

Sure, you can criticize the rule as being anal, or stupid, but once it’s a rule, you cannot criticize the person for enforcing it.

I mean, just put a fucking tie, meathead.

by Pants McPants on Nov 4, 2008 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t think the tie rule is why Mich state is 8-2…just putting it out there. Ties are an obsolete accessory, even in the business world. Its’ demise is approaching.

by Jamar Honrsby's credit rating on Nov 4, 2008 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

Yet this is the same coach who has yet to discipline anyone on his football team for a party/brawl/riot where football players were involved in a fight with hockey players….

by Berdingo on Nov 4, 2008 3:17 PM EST reply actions  

I bet Bobby Johnson enforces his ascot rule with similar “zero tolerance.” Dantonio is correct.

Curiously, I formed political persuasions of the commentors while reading this. I could be wrong though.

by hlh on Nov 4, 2008 3:28 PM EST reply actions  

Well, Orson – discipline begins somewhere, and it’s up to the coach to say where.

I agree with Dantonio.

by Pete the Streak on Nov 4, 2008 3:37 PM EST reply actions  

Discipline is one thing while hammerlocked, rigid adherence to a style requirement, the violation of which hurts the team, is borderline dumbass…just find a way to make the kid pay so that it doesn’t hurt the team. Yeah, no one else is going to go tieless, but everyone on the team thinks coach is a fuckin’ nut-case with a tie fetish…do what he says, but don’t leave me alone with that fucker…

At reFSU Bobbah’s discipline would never hurt the team, he just makes the boyahs run steps, and they all love the doddering old fool…hell they even go fetch him new depends. Of course, there is no discipline at reFSU, so, well, nevermind…

by sb on Nov 4, 2008 4:15 PM EST reply actions  

Just win baby… if being a control freak gets you there, that is all that matters.

Not to mention we really don’t know the context… so who knows what is said surronding tie-gate.

by meatybob on Nov 4, 2008 4:27 PM EST reply actions  

Jimmy Johnson, Barry Switzer and Bobby Bowden say give the kid a break.

by shovel-pass on Nov 4, 2008 4:41 PM EST reply actions  

How hard is it to clip on a tie? +1 for the Coach.

by Russ on Nov 4, 2008 4:50 PM EST reply actions  

Following rules is overrated.

by P Fulmer on Nov 4, 2008 4:59 PM EST reply actions  

21 you’re an idiot. If you think the kids that were involved haven’t yet been punished… take a look at the dress list and participation charts for the 2 games following the incident. Since all the players were freshmen anyway, and really not contributing members at least on gamedays save for 1 alleged participant making a name for himself on special teams, its easy to assume that the players haven’t been disciplined.

But what if the kids allegedly involved, are not charged by the prosecutor? Why should coach D throw the kids names out there and let the media go nuts on them, only to find out the claims are unsubstantiated?

by dark mantonio on Nov 4, 2008 5:07 PM EST reply actions  

which is why Dantonio makes hundreds of thousands of dollars per year and you write a blog for $14.76 a week. it’s called discipline. learn it, know it, live it.

by Kenny Stabler on Nov 4, 2008 5:47 PM EST reply actions  

Kenny—We’re up to at least $23.75 a week.

by Orson Swindle on Nov 4, 2008 6:20 PM EST reply actions  

Orson,
Wrong wrong wrong. What’s hard about wearing a tie? Small break downs in discipline lead to bigger ones on the field. Mad respek for Dantonio-

by Upchurch on Nov 4, 2008 6:21 PM EST reply actions  

If there are a whole ton of arbitrary rules waiting to trip players up, then it isn’t good to be a zealot on all of them and some perspective is in order. But if a point was made that this was an important thing in the coaches eye, then sticking to that rule and enforcing the consequences is absolutely the right thing to do (no matter what the bloggers on the ebays think).

by oc phil on Nov 4, 2008 6:43 PM EST reply actions  

The first rule of coaching is this : If you want to demonstrate you’re a hardass who’s not to be fucked with, you bench offending starters when playing against weenies – hell, FSU scheduled crappy AA teams to start this season just so they’d have games to suspend guys for. Discipline may help you get wins, but in the end it’s the wins alone that count; how many coaches ever got canned for leading a team of thugs to a good record?

by peachy on Nov 4, 2008 7:01 PM EST reply actions  

Dantonio is a mirthless priack…

by elno lewis on Nov 4, 2008 7:15 PM EST reply actions  

Hard to criticize Dantonio for this… he’s restored discipline to the MSU team that has been lacking for nearly a decade.

by mumble mumble on Nov 4, 2008 11:44 PM EST reply actions  

Funny, we had the same rules in high school – game day you wear a tie or you don’t play.

Unbelievable that anyone would criticize a coach for this. Kinda like if you’re out past curfew you don’t play. Too many kids have a sense of entitlement because they think they’re indispensible. I’d hope if Ringer violated team policy he’d see the bench. Otherwise you have the inmates running the asylum.

by Spanky on Nov 5, 2008 9:54 AM EST reply actions  

Wow, I’m laughing now at you pretentious pricks who assumed that just because a coach demands a player wear a tie or be benched, that he is “restoring discipline.” Tell me again how disciplined these guys are. Were they wearing ties when they assualted those women over the weekend? I know its unfair to take the commenters here as representative of MSU fans, but honestly, how vapid and dumb do you have to be to assume tie = discipline?

by Eric on Nov 24, 2009 5:31 PM EST reply actions  

don’t wear a tie=don’t play. spend the off-season in jail for assault=starting RB. the 15-20 players (i’m guessing 22) responsible for this weekend’s assaults=next year’s starters on offense/defense. c’mon msu special teams, get with dantonio’s iron fist of discipline program!

by derek on Nov 24, 2009 11:22 PM EST reply actions  

@ 38

“I know its unfair to take the commenters here as representative of MSU fans, but honestly, how vapid and dumb do you have to be to assume tie = discipline?”

In this case, it is perfectly acceptable. Look at all the Sparty fans running around praising Dantonio a year ago for his “discipline.” Ha! Well done you ignorant fools.

by Blahhhg on Nov 30, 2009 12:29 PM EST reply actions  

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