CURIOUS INDEX, 10/28/08

There ain’t enough HATE on this blog this morning. I need my HATE HATE HATE!!!!

But the star of Deliverance, the guy who really brought it to life, the guy whose dramatic tour de force was so fucking believable that it seemed as though he just wasn’t acting…he hails from Jupiter, Florida.

You supply the weekend warriors, we’ll supply the natural beauty.

UF is going to hammer Georgia, and the pollsters will notice.

Big Mike (guy with the bulldog on his head) is still hipper than mr. two bits

Jonathan – Mr. 2 Bits has been doing his thing for 60 years. Nothing is hipper than that.

Gary Barnett can only coach at the dub if he promises to once again follow politely in the shoes of Golden Ricky, who also preceeded him at Colorado.

Sadly Mr. Two-Bits has retired.

The best part about Deliverance being filmed in Rabun County is the pride Rabu®n-ites take from it. I’ve spent a good bit of time a Lake Burton and run into my share of yokels and they’re the first to tell you: “Yup they feelmed it right up thar bah the ’coochee schoowl.”

And nobody is hipper than Mr. Two Bits. Especially not anyone who wears overalls.

I hate Florida Because Fred Durst went to finishing school in Jacksonville.

Thanks Florida.

@6 burritobros

Mr. Two Bits retires every other year. He’ll be back until he dies.

BurritoBrosShits,

Correction: Lessening our shame, Mr. Two-Bits has retired.

Seriously, an old dude leading cheers is as lame a tradition as singing “We Are the Boys.” Of course, Georgia fans have a chant that expresses pride in being drunk and obnoxious, so we’re all retards in our own special ways.

That gentleman has needed an infusion or irony for a long, long time.

@2:

You fail to mention that the “star” of Deliverance is a Florida State Semenhole.

Biggus Rickus: Don’t forget red Dickies.

Pete Carroll in for Long Haul Dept:

Both current USC Offensive Coordinator and former USC-Flunky-recently-fired-Raider-“coach” have expressed strong interest in the Washington position.

This is great news for me (USC fan) and bad news for Notre dame, ucla, Pac 9 (sorry Cougars), and other teams brave enough to schedule USC because it clearly signals to all that Pete Carroll is not going anywhere. If he were, then these two would not be as enthusiastic about throwing their hat in ring for the UW job.

ta, tatararara, tara, ta, tatara..taraaa……

ta, tatararara, tara, ta, tatara..taraaa……

…(This is the infamous USC band song played, oh, about 100 times per half, or so…music to meee ears, but probably not to you, or “yous” like they say in Brooklyn)

*of

and Semenhole just topped Gayturd for lamest, most obnoxious nickname substitute ever, a feat I had considered impossible until now.

If only I could, O. If only. The fashion don’ts on the river this weekend will be legion and ghastly.

Didn’t Red Dickies used to be on Hee Haw?

Love the quote in the article about Ty that said “…salvaging this year’s recruiting class…by having a coach in place by Dec. 6…”

Judging from what they’ve put on the field the last few years, I’d hazard the opinion that outside of Jake Locker, UW hasn’t had a recruiting class worth salvaging for the last 4-5 years.

The much anticipated Wazzu-UDub matchup will make the AUbarn-MSU game look like a Super Bowl.

I thought Mr. Two-Bits was awesome. Much more so than “We Are…..”

Went on a rafting trip down the Chattooga and one of the multiple Deliverance landmarks our guide pointed out to us was “Love Scene Campground.” Following the shudder down my spine, I paid reverence with a simple head shake.

Coincidentally, the Chattooga forms the boarder between SC and GA. Perhaps both states contributed to that fine bit of cinema.

SKLM sounds a little nervous, eh?

Your logic is infallible. I’m sure the Poodle would never be less than fully forthcoming with his employees about his future coaching plans.

Of course, by the same logic, it could simply be that the coaches you mentioned know a little something about the NCAA sanctions looming over U$C.

re: LSU QB issues
Just how much more trouble was PerryWoo actually getting into (that never came out) for Les to finally kick him off the team considering he knew he’d be at square one with these new guys?

While Deliverance has become synonymous with rural Southern backwardness due to a few iconic images and scenes, the film is actually a sharp exposition of the tensions within the southern mindset as it contends with the changes from a rural to urban society.

Boorman’s film exposes the sycophantic elements of the south while revealing its own social turmoil versus the onslaught of the modern world. The most celebrated scene in the film is the sodomizing of Ned Beatty’s character Bobby. But both Boorman and Dickey are mindful of the power of this act and do not permit it to be viewed in a vacuum. The rape scene is visually juxtaposed against the symbolic rape of the land and the actions of the men.

Moreover, the actions of both the group of rafters as well as the rural people that they must contend with are judged internally as just. The bonds of family and the group are paramount and a clear code of conduct exists within both. Everything is clearly black and white until the mores of a wider modern society must again be dealt with that things become foggy again. And it’s quietly ironic that modern society has taken upon itself to mock the depictions in the film as stereotypical.

Dickey never fell prey to the myth of the old south and a romanticism about the past is almost completely absent in his works poetry and prose. Both he and Boorman are unapologetic about their protagonists and ask that they be evaluated solely on their own terms – to do less would be insulting to the reader/viewer. And, eventually, both espouse a balance between rural and urban life with Deliverance a strong testament to the evils of excess in both directions.

Dang you Orson, the next installment of my uga PSA series (distributed via facebook status updates no less) was going to reference Deliverance and now I can’t use it!

And as someone raised in Jupiter, FL, we do not take credit for Burt Reynolds, he’s from Michigan and went to high school in West Palm Beach, I think he may have a home or two in Jupiter, and they may still have the “Burt Reynolds Theatre” but NO. He’s not a native Floridian. Plus, he went to Florida State so he’s dead to me anyway.

Kleph—Pajiba.com is over there—→

I lived on the westide of Jacksonville for several years. Gator fans discerning the degree of “hillbilly-ness” of their opponents is like an alcoholic who drinks a case of beer / day and thanks God he doesn’t drink 25 beers/ day like some other degenerates

Rabun County is much closer to Clemson than UGA.

Sour Grapes Dept:

1. - Expat Ohion: Still bitter about getting whacked by Pete Carroll’s team earlier this year? Let it go man, or ma’am. It is par for the course for your Buckeyes, getting b-slapped by teams with any sort of speed. Actually, I was rooting for your team like crazy this past Saturday. Too bad your running QB choked when it mattered.

Poodle? Man, or Ma’am you really can throw original zingers around. The last crop of people to use that crack (Du Lac’ers) have been Pete Carroll’s "b"’s , if you know what I mean.

Sanctions? Well, if you cannot beat USC on the field, try to get them with sanctions! It is pretty much established that any shenanigas by Bush were NOT done with USC winking like Sarah P at ’em, but I digress….gotta go…..

1. I thought your comment may be ironic, what with 2bits being really old and old people often needing new hips, but sadly I have realized you were likely serious. Something 60 years old and that cheesy would have to be retro-hip at best

i’m just sayin’…

Just checked out Mr. 2-Bits on the internets. I must be missing something. LAME. This is a tradition no one’s heard about for a reason, and Gators should want to keep that way.

But it does highlight the fey, snowbird-ish (ish because I’m pretty sure he’s not from New Jersey like probably 60% of the current population) part of Florida that has all the spirit and character of a Mr. Rogers episode.

Much like their charmless haphazard stadium.

Careful, Orson. You insult Mike “Big Dawg” Woods, you’ve insulted all of Bulldog Nation. We’re coming for you, and hell (and our red Dickies) is coming with us.

SKLM -

SC is as guilty as O.J. and you know it, they know it, this board knows it and the NCAA knows it. Just like O.J., nothing will be done about it, so we will just say they got away with it and be done.

Next year tOSU gets you in Columbus with a season under Terrelle Pryor. Now that I am in stage 7 of the grief process, acceptance and hope, I will believe the result to be different next September.

Carry on with your season, and try not to fuck up against far inferior opposition. This includes ND.

Mike ‘Big Dawg’ Woods comes across more as a Hartsfield restroom stall regular than a resident badass. I prefer we stick with UGA VII, coeds in black cocktail dresses, and Larry Muson as our program icons.

@SKLM:

Ummm…not a tUoOS fan, thank you. Try not to confuse origin with affiliation.

I didn’t hear a response, so we’ll just assume that I was right-you are nervous about loosing your man.

Ohio Dawg – if you did check out Mr. 2-Bits website, you will find that he attended The Citadel. He left the Citadel after his freshman year to enlist in the Navy during WWII. He served as a Navy pilot in the Pacific. [No small feat]. He started the 2-bits chant in 1947 when it was popular. Mr. Edmondson continued the same chant for over 60 years when he re-retired at the KY game this past weekend. He has helped fund a scholarship for UF. Whatever “lameness” you wish to attribute to his 2-bits chant is clearly overshadowed by his contribution to country, community, and a college he has adopted as his own.

In other words, you’re a jerk.

Crabby Crabs Dept:

Everyone knows Reggie Bush is guilty of acts of financial malfeasance, even die-hard USC fans.

The question of whether USC was in the loop on this mess is another matter. I think USC goes through a lot of steps to warn their footballers about agents, NCAA rules, blah, blah, blah. I think there is enough institutional control, whatever that means.

Since this is America, stuff has to be proven first, before getting whacked around.

USC goes to Ohio next year and that game should be awesome. OSU will be better and USC will lose a bunch of players to the NFL and graduation (do not laugh). I still think USC will win, perhaps not by 30 though.

Prediction for ND game: Pain.

#37, abandoning your sense of humor isn’t required during hate week…

hobeg8r,

So his WWII service negates the fact that the two-bit cheer is lame and outdated? I don’t follow the logic.

Dear Sun Devils:

Please stop sucking.

Thanks,

Georgia Bulldogs

Skinny21,

You are more correct than you may know. South Carolina owns its share of the Deliverance legacy:

Written by James Dicky who:
Grew up in Atlanta,
Played football at Clemson
and was the Poet-in-Residence at USCe.

The bottom line is: say what you want about Mr. 2bits, but the legacy of sodomy-for-sport belongs to our neighbors to the north. How hip is that?

hobeg8r – Mark Richt adopted a kid with a birth defect, so I’m glad to know you’ll be cheering for UGa this weekend.

Bobby Decatur – I am completely with you on defending Big Mike. Probably not our best plan of attack. Especially if someone finds out he’s a veteran or saved a puppy, in which case, hobeg8r will be compelled to support him: an unintended consequence I couldn’t live with.

Georgia fans (who appear to be grown men) shake pom-poms at a football game and wear penny loafers. Talk about “lame”.

Oh my Foooking Lawd, is SKLM serious??? To quote; “it is pretty much established that any shenigans by Bush were not done with USC winking like Sarah P at them.” Well then, that CERTAINLY clears SC of any wrong doing. So long as you don’t CONDONE the activity. I believe the entire NCAA family owes the Trojans an apology for thinking that they would EVER condone such activities. I mean they didnt condone Sanchez’s drinking, Rey’s brawling etc. etc. (the list is extensive) so WTF! And Stacey, that “band song” which you so expertly replicated is called “Fight On.” Will you please do “Conquest” next? I am sure William Hung is around to help. My God man, you are a twit.

44, I have no defense whatsoever to that one. 10 Gatorade and vodkas to you, sir.

As a Bama fan, we need Georgia to win, for strength of schedule, and so we can beat them again, and this time, for 4 FULL Quarters in Atlanta. We will avenge the second half.
Nick Saban plays that second half on an endless loop in the lockerrooms 24/7.

Did anyone else hesitate to click on the “ASU burning up on re-entry” link out of fear that Orson might have linked to a picture of the space shuttle Columbia breaking up like cheap lawn furniture in the Texas sky? And then was kinda disappointed when it wasn’t?

I didn’t think so…

Gen. Stoopnagle hopes Georgia wins and feels strongly that the Dawgs, given another opportunity, will play a full game against Alabama in ATL. Although, we’ve been down this path with Saban before – if Georgia wins this weekend. BIG IF.

By the way, Bama Fan, you’re welcome. Your Pals, Georgia and Florida.

Can you hear Jim Mora Jr. sprinting toward Seattle as we speak?

One thing is for certain…..with Tebow and Stafford on the same field….. Verne Lumpquist’s head will asplode with a level of manlove never before witnessed on national television.

1. I have never worn penny loafers, to the other assertion I will confess that I have and will continue to shake a shaker during games, as the handle of said shaker is perfect for stirring the bourbon I poured into my coke.

Be glad you don’t have to play in Athens, that concerted shaker shaking is intimidating………. wait it’s not? Damn that could explain our not so intimidating home game record. Can we switch it to just playing in the swamp? I think that would help us out a little here

Musically Challenged Dept:

1. - paddy: First, mistakes were made by the young men of Troy, no doubt about that. But, to whack USC for the mistakes of a few is un-American. Two, guilty as charged regarding my musical abilities. I was actually trying to put to ‘paper’ the introductory music for "Conquest, which it appears, I failed miserably to adequately document.

1. If you watch for awhile you will probably see that SLKM is very seldom 100% serious, and seldom 100% not serioius.

Pete isn’t going anywhere. The picture I use as my icon in the champaigne room is of he and I talking about that topic. Pete absolutely loves the control he has at USC which is pretty much absolute. The only way he’d go back to the NFL is if a warm weather team on the coast made him president, GM, and coach with a long term deal. He would need absolute total control of a sort that owners seldom give in the NFL. Plus he actually enjoys recruiting and other aspects of the college game.

As far as the Bush thing goes. The key point is that the agent was basically giving RB money to LEAVE USC early. That is directly against the interests of the team it is a whole different issue than boosters paying a player to come to a school. It is not something that USC should, or will end up being punished for. The latest is that Bush is trying to settle the lawsuit out of court and the inevitable confidentaiality agreement will mean that the NCAA will get no information or evidence on the matter. I see why that would make the haters see red, but it ends up being the correct result from a sleazy process.

To SKLM and OCPhil—dont want Pete go anywhere and did not comment on that. But if you HONESTLY believe its okay to give players money whether their coming OR going is indicative of the problem I believe exists at SC. Besides which, is it okay to provide housing for the parents? I mean REALLY? I can certainly cut you slack on the “extra” monies provided for one of your kids that roomed with Sanchez. (I am not 100% sure who the player was, but whoever it was, his father was picking up the slack vis-a-vis available funds for off campus housing versus 1/2 the rent) But if you think nothing should be done about money given to a player—as well as housing for the parents GRATIS—then you lose (in my opinion) the right to comment on the “haters.” You are so blinded by your “loyalty” to SC that serious discussion is rendered moot.

I’’m not saying that Bush getting advances from an agent is OK, just that it is a totally different situation than paying students to come to a program. I also think that there was a reasonable amount of due diligence on the part of the university. The university really can’t be monitoring the finances and living arrangements of all families, especially those not in the same city. And there would be no way to spot the transgressions if the “agent” hadn’t blown the whistle in this case. Parents don’t submit copies of there rent or morgage checks to any university

Do you really believe that the university should be punished for someone breaking the rules in a way that hurts the interests of the university?

BTW it was Leinart and Jarrett who were the roomies.

I guess I would say that someone cheating on a test that was caught should be penalized. Obviously the student cheating was a) breaking the rules and b) hurting the interest of the school. Hopefully you would agree a “cheater” certainly isnt doing the reputation or integrity of the school any good…therefore hurting its “interests.” Your logic seems to say because the student wasn’t caught by the faculty, but an outside source, nothing can (or should) be done. Dont some schools impose "self-inflicted’ loss of scholarships? (admittedly, its usually in a selfish attempt to ward off more serious sanctions from the NCAA) Every SC fan I know proudly acclaims the very high academic ratings of the school—-usually somewhere in the top 20 to 30 of the very best universities in the country. It is INDEED something to be proud of. However, to an outsider, the “laxness” in how you handle your football program (graduation rate for football players for instance, or the seemingly endless incidents, large or small, of improprieties) just doesnt pass the smell test. Obviously the success of Pete has taken SC to the top of the college football world. But I wonder if, as you mow down the competion, you shouldnt take a look at one of your rivals (ND) and see how they handled the case of a kid recruited from your state. (Will Yeatman) If you dont know the background of the situation I wont bore you with the details—suffice to say it seems rules mean more in South Bend than they do in South Central. (perhaps thats why you’ve been kicking their butts on a regular basis) Ultimately it is about ones honor, and not what one can get away with…or shrug off. Let me end with an attempted analogy. Do you really believe that a university (marriage) should be punished for someone (husband/wife) breaking the rules (infidelity) in a way that hurts the interest of the university. (marriage) What do you think, OC?

SKLM

USC and graduation in the same sentence…HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

USC’s GSR for football players is54%…nuff said.

pat, you make some strong examples to support my thoughts.

If my ex-wife ran off with a plumber do my kids and I deserve punishment because of her infidelity? Nope. She does.

Or if the student in the class was caught cheating and dropped out of school, should the teacher and remaining students be punished just because they are still around? Again, the answer to me seems a clear no from a pure fairness point of view. The punishment should is due to those who made the transgressions not those who were harmed by them.

LOL…you remind me of Brian over at mgo who tried to construct (via the rule book) how the infamous “cone” touchdown against MSU was legit…he was quickly put in place by his own readership. The cheating student didn’t leave school immediately did he? In fact, took quite a few more exams? As to the analogy…re-read and pray for comprehension…you totally miss the point. But that is okay…I understand Bush still has an approval rating somewhere around 22 %. Certain people are going to believe what they want to believe regardless of reality.