Comments on: CURIOUS INDEX, 10/24/08

By: Gen. Stoopnagle

Gen. Stoopnagle — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:12:50 +0000

MikeLew: I appreciate your explanation, but I find it lacking. First, the pecking order of the BCS, after the automatics, last year was Fiesta, Rose, Orange, Sugar. The Rose jumped to the front of the line when it lost tOSU to the BCS game, followed by the Sugar who lost LSU, then the Fiesta and Orange, then back through the line again.

The Rose asked the Orange if it could consider Va Tech, but did not ask the Sugar if it could consider Georgia (the next SEC team in line and, by rule, the Sugar’s team, no doubt). But the Rose DID NOT ASK to even be able to consider UGA. Why would they not at least attempt to stage the best game possible? Sugar’s fault? Hardly.

And what other bowl committee would have picked Illinois? At the very least, the Rose should have taken the most deserving team which was Missouri. If there is one team which got jobbed worse than UGA by the Rose Bowl it was Mizzou.

And even in your world where Illinois was a deserving team, the Rose chose to subject all of us to TWO crappy games (USC v Illinois AND UGA v Hawaii), instead of one (in your world: Hawaii v Illinois) but with the bonus of a great game in USC v Georgia.

Water under the bridge now. As far as I am concerned (and I hope as far as Damon Evans, Mike Slive and Mark Richt are concerned) the Rose Bowl can shove it.

By: Gen. Stoopnagle

Gen. Stoopnagle — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:30:29 +0000

GatorAM: well, see, there is your problem. You live in ATL.

By: Noel Devine's Gold Teef

Noel Devine's Gold Teef — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:53:45 +0000

Yo, Auburn. How my nuts taste?

- NDGT

By: MountaineerBob

MountaineerBob — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 04:13:38 +0000

Yes I was nursing a mega hangover and it was TOTALLY worth it. That was a great game and after the rest of the Big East imploded WVU is in the perfect position to do what we do best…. be the underdog and kick ass.

By: MikeLew

MikeLew — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 04:40:07 +0000

@48….actually, the people to blame for UGA playing Hawaii in N’awlins are……wait for it…….the Sugar Bowl people.

See, the BCS allows the bowls that lose their conference champions to the BCSNCG to retain the rights to the second team selected from that conference. So, unless you really believe that the Sugar Bowl released UGA so they could have that great Hawaii-Illinois matchup, you can’t blame Delany or the Big Ten.

FWIW, The Big Ten against the SEC in bowl games are 13-13 since the advent of the BCS- hardly an indication of dominance by either conference.

By: GatorAM

GatorAM — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:45:47 +0000

Everyone has d-bag fans, but most of my experience with d-bag Bulldog fans is in Atlanta (where I live) when it’s not even gameday. Being a drunk obnoxious d-bag on gameday is one thing… being a dbag whenever… well then it’s just your lifestyle.

By: Gen. Stoopnagle

Gen. Stoopnagle — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:17:59 +0000

GatorAM: Maybe if your pick-up truck alums weren’t such total d-bags in J’ville, you wouldn’t hate our pick-up truck alums so much? And, FWIW, I, personally, never ride UF or LSU coattails being as a couldn’t care less about the whole conference argument bullshit.

Where I take exception to the arguments of tafka is that somehow any team in the Big 10 is superior to Georgia’s. Our record – as meager and erratic as it is – speaks for itself. (1-0 v tOSU. Thanks, Herbie).

That we don’t play them much isn’t our fault – it’s the quirks of the bowl system and, allegedly, the September heat in Georgia (honestly, we’re not doing a 2 for 1 with anyone unless the 2 is in Athens).

By: Gen. Stoopnagle

Gen. Stoopnagle — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:03:02 +0000

All I know is Georgia hasn’t lost to a Big 10 team since… gosh… 1957 or so? Unless you want to count Penn State in ‘83, but I don’t since they weren’t in the Big 10 then.

Granted we don’t get to play Big 10 teams very often (an occasional Outback or Citrus Bowl), but when we do we… ahem… win, bitch.

AND: it’s widely understood that the Big 10 commish lobbied Georgia out of a Rose Bowl last year. Accurate or not, it’s hard to blame Georgia for having to play Hawaii. FWIW, I don’t know many Georgia fans who would not be excited about playing Ohio State, Michigan or Penn State. This year, last year, next year, any year. ANYWHERE.

By: GatorAM

GatorAM — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:45:51 +0000

I do agree with TAFKyada on one point: it is frustrating as a Gator fan to watch other SEC fans (especially Bulldogs) say things like “whatever OSU the SEC totally dominated you, OSU sucks SEC rules, yada yada”

As far as I can tell: Florida beat OSU, and LSU beat OSU.

In one breath they (no one on this blog, but others) say “Gators suck, move back to Florida why can’t you just stay in your own state, you’re trashy, go get in your iroc, pardon me while i bark in your face” and in the next they say “you suck OSU and big ten, SEC owns you, blah blah”

No no no, don’t tell me I’d be better off moving out of your state, then act like you can join in the trash talk of the victors. MY team won. Not your team. Sharing is NOT caring win it comes to national championships!

So… Orson, can FL-GA be the new hate week to replace UT? PLEASE?

By: TAFKastOSUB

TAFKastOSUB — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:10:13 +0000

Pelican:
Nice post…I agree…quarterback play in the SEC is down a little and way up in the Big 12. Stafford, to me, appears to be the best QB in the conference though, but his line is beat to shit.

I think Ole Miss has a QB that is going to be good.

Regarding Pryor…it is unbelievable what that kid is doing as a true freshman. Thank god he didn’t go to Michigan.

/ Out for real now…

By: Mr. Pelican Pants

Mr. Pelican Pants — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:54:32 +0000

The Artist:
You must be an attorney. One thing that is a constant to whether you have a good team, or good conference is QB play. You of all people should know this.
The SEC,as a whole, only has a few QB’s, and by few, I mean one who can read defenses and not kill you with mistakes, and that is Tebow. Look at the rest of the conference, and like the NFL, a good QB is a must.
In close games, your QB is the deciding factor in many last minute drives….at least for a winning field goal..
Breaking in a first year qb in the SEC or any conference is gonna be full of growing pains and rookie mistakes. The Big 12 has many QB’s who know the system and has played in hostile enviroments for a full season. SEC hasnt, and Tebow and JPW are the only real returing starters. I wouldnt count Casey Dick or Smelley…
Now whether they will admit it or not, many would trade their QB’s right now for a Terrell Pryor, I know Auburn would and I know Tennessee would. A good defense can only be “good” for some many plays, and if your offense is going 3 and out every series under 4 minutes at a time, that Defense wont put up much of a fight in a track meet like last night, where your best defense is keeping your offense on the field and their offense off of it by time of possesion. WE may have 6 teams that may be bowl eligible, and maybe 3 of those will win their bowls since only 2 have a decent QB play….

By: TAFKastOSUB

TAFKastOSUB — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:41:36 +0000

I never said the SEC was not a great conference and the last couple of years you could say that they have been the best conference in the country…I’m just saying that I get sick of the mentality that the SEC is light years ahead of everyone else and never loses OOC games.

Going into the season and after Alabama beat Clemson everyone was foaming at the mouth about the SEC. But as it turns out, Clemson was overrated and the SEC has stacked up some eye-popping OOC losses when you consider it was supposed to be light years ahead of everyone else.

/ Out for the day…enjoyed the banter…go bucks!

By: WarCardinals

WarCardinals — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:14:33 +0000

The last time the SEC champ and runner-up both beat conference champs?

2007:
LSU beats Big Ten champ OSU
UGA beats WAC champ Hawaii

2006:
Florida beats Big Ten champ OSU
LSU beats Notre Dame (not a champ, but a top 10 team)

2001:
LSU beats Big Ten champ Illinois
Florida beats ACC champ Maryland

By: BamaCPA

BamaCPA — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:52:42 +0000

This year, the 2 best conferences are the Big 12 and the SEC. Over the past few years, the SEC has clearly been the best conference.

By: TAFKastOSUB

TAFKastOSUB — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:45:23 +0000

The SEC also has the highest coaching salaries and took home the Fulmer Cup last year, and in the process also now sits atop the all-time conference points standings for the fulmer cup…so yeah, you guys are great at everything.

1 NC caliber coach just retired from Michigan and Nick Saban should only count for 1/2 right? Plus Urban Meyer and Les Miles also won their NC’s against Ohio State…and since Ohio State is the biggest joke in the country how can those NC’s really count for anything?

Fulmer is on his way out, as is Tubby, and how much longer is Spurrier going to hang on at Carolina?

Also, I’m not the one saying our bowl record is impressive…I’m only saying that the SEC is not the greatest superpower on the planet like you all wish it was…you have freckles just like everyone else.

And as far as it being an annual tradition for Big Ten teams to suck it up in the bowl games…

In 98 and 99 the big 10 champ beat the pac 10 champ and the big ten runner up teams both beat conference champions…Alabama and aTm. When was the last time that an SEC Champ and the runner up both beat conference champions? It wasn’t in 2003 when LSU beat OU because OU was not the conference champion…KState was and they got rolled by you know who…big ten runner up Ohio State.