BOWDEN, R.I.P. AT CLEMSON
by Orson on Oct 13, 2008 12:12 PM EDT
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Tommy Bowden, out at Clemson: film at eleven, etc, but TigerIllustrated is reporting it like it's done, meaning they must have resolved the issue of his $4 million dollar buyout. Dabo Swinney would be the interim coach in the meantime, and with a name like that, you are always the interim coach, and never the coach.
The fail is up to here, which means I'm fired.
Update: This is, according to Joe Schad, the text Cullen Harper sent him:
I just found out. Its what he deserves. Dabo Swinney is good man who will do a good job.
Knives out, Cullen. Knives out! The Tommy Bowden Death Index has been appropriately updated, but damn, damn, damn: this doesn't seem to be difficult for anyone at Clemson, does it? Also, if you want a particular blogspot address it should be available shortly.
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or maybe dabo “swinney” will take over…just sayin’
by gerry dorsey on Oct 13, 2008 12:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s about time.
He cared more about getting them to church on Sunday than in the end zone on Saturday.
Not that the two have to be mutually exclusive….
by tigercpa on Oct 13, 2008 12:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tommy Bowden could have taken the 2001 Miami Hurricanes to a 4-7 record, and thats being generous..
Nick Saban says he cant take credit for that one, but he will take credit for the next two: Tubbs and Fulmer….We like to call these firings the “Saban Effect”, when one coach gets hired, others get fired….especially across state……but I am still laughing at that fake Nickelback video of “Photograph”…the lyrics are improved and so is the vocal rendition….
by Mr.Pelican Pants on Oct 13, 2008 12:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sure hope he doesn’t skitter off to some NFL team as a coordinator like Dirk Koetter. I want the Bitch Mentality to have and keep its place in college football.
by poguemahone on Oct 13, 2008 12:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I suppose there was no reason to continue the farce any longer.
Now one must query respecting the similarity between Dabo Sweeney (?!?!?!? WTF?!) and Bill Stewart. One assumes a temprary boost, but…
by marcillac on Oct 13, 2008 12:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn’t it customary to wait till after a coach loses to Georgia Tech to fire them?
by Ryno on Oct 13, 2008 12:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Coach Tommy, sitting quietly in his office contemplating being fired, thinks that he nearly made it ten full seasons, has a $4M buyout…
“Ooh, baby, you are so talented! And they are so DUMB! "
by skinnyphatman on Oct 13, 2008 12:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Orson, I’ve been watching that Ted Nugent video you posted last wednesday for about 12 hours strait while studying for exams. Is this a bad thing?
by First-national-dank on Oct 13, 2008 12:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ESPN is reporting that Cullen Harper’s reaction is: “It’s what he deserves.”
Ouch.
by Moin on Oct 13, 2008 12:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rampant Rumor Dept:
Boom Mother fucker tires of “co- defensive coordinator” status.
by hlh on Oct 13, 2008 12:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No clue what that means for the game this weekend, but maybe Clemson will show signs of life – since it sounds like the players couldn’t stand Tommy anymore.
Either way, it means the ACC gets another coaching upgrade this offseason. This league desperately needed new blood at the HC positions, and has been packing them in. Butch Davis, Paul Johnson and David Cutcliffe were all huge upgrades, and with Tommy Bowden gone we really only have to drop Al Groh to make the house cleaning complete.
by Nathan on Oct 13, 2008 12:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
On the bright side, the camera crews won’t have to continually pan to Mrs. (Bobby) Bowden during the upcoming FSU/Clemson game. I guess the Bowden legacy is now officially dead?
by hobeg8r on Oct 13, 2008 12:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He has owned Carolina during his tenure (7-2) but that’s about it. No reason for a lack of ACC trophies except his own inability to coach. If we are lucky maybe Brad Scott will step up…
by Carolina_girl on Oct 13, 2008 12:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Muschamp at Clemson next year? It smells of…….
VICTORY.
by sjs1959 on Oct 13, 2008 12:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sjs@17 pretty sure tdp and the folks at clemson would not appreciated the language/antics of boom mother f’er
by Carolina_girl on Oct 13, 2008 12:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Muschamp makes tons of sense.
Just out of curiousity, anyone else think maybe Lane Kiffin will sniff around this job? I mean, Clemson’s got the Defense, so why not get a new guy on Offense?
I’m just tossing this out for conversation, mostly.
by That 5.0 Guy on Oct 13, 2008 12:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Tennessee or Auburn will have more to say on this Muschamp character….if it were me, I would put my contract and resume on Ebay, and let them bid for it…as far as Bowden getting fired, I blame Holly….
by Mr.Pelican Pants on Oct 13, 2008 1:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Another victim of poorly managed expectations. Bowden should have been on the warpath when some people were putting them in the top 5 or top 10 pre-season.
by OhioDawg on Oct 13, 2008 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cullen Harper’s diddy didn’t mince words…
“I’d call it karma. I thought it needed to be done. I think anytime a head coach or someone in a leadership position starts to place blame on his coaches and players, it weakens their respect on the team. His past experiences have shown he’s done that.” — Jeff Harper
Somebody’s off the Harper family’s Christmas card list!
by decemberist on Oct 13, 2008 1:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
meanwhile in seattle, ty willingham gets the ENTIRE season to run UW into the ground. why does UW hate their football team so much?
by KC on Oct 13, 2008 1:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
@12, the Bitch Mentality has spread to the players.
Maybe Harper needs a vaginal sand extraction after being benched. Or maybe he just doesn’t want Swinney to start him.
by Petie on Oct 13, 2008 1:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d throw Butch Davis’ name into the mix as the post-Dabo coach, but Butchie’s already been placed on pre-order by the rapidly expanding anti-Tubs Auburn subset.
by decemberist on Oct 13, 2008 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If I were Willy Korn, I request a transfer today.
Harper’s dad called it “karma.”
Stay classy, Harper family.
by Ted on Oct 13, 2008 1:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“…These are the horns of the dilemma
What truth is proof against all lies
When sacred fails before profane
The wisest man is deemed insane
Even the purest of romantics compromise
What fixation feeds this fever
As the full moon pales and climbs
Am I living truth or rank deceiver
Am I the victim or the crime
Am I the victim or the crime
Am I the victim or the crime
Or the crime…"
Well, I think these lyrics are fitting
by AllWhoYonder on Oct 13, 2008 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
#12:
That’s taken a bit out of context. Cullen Harper was saying that “it”, the promotion, is what Swinney deserves.
by woooohooooooo on Oct 13, 2008 1:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
While its nice to assume that Clemson will now upgrade at the coaching position in the off-season.. lets keep in mind that it did take them 10 years to fire Bowden… with that precedent, Terry’s name is bound to come up for the job!
by beckett929 on Oct 13, 2008 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait, how’d I get dragged into this again?
/i’mnotevensupposedtobeheretoday
by Holly on Oct 13, 2008 1:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
@ 6
Fuck no. Using the term “Croomed” is reserved for MSU only; it’s one of the few things MSU fans have left to hold onto. Let us delusional fucks have something for once, damnit.
by EmoDawg on Oct 13, 2008 1:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And all the S. Carolina fans come out to point and laugh
by WarCardinals on Oct 13, 2008 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My favorite part is that they Zooked him before he could go on a winning streak, beat FSU, lose the Peach Bowl, and limp on to next season.
by TJ on Oct 13, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Please please please don’t even sniff at our HC but feel free to take our Offensive Coordinator any day now….please, I beg you.
by VandyDores04 on Oct 13, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why would the chickens come to laugh?
Bowden owned them
by Darkknight on Oct 13, 2008 1:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The #1 High School Safety Craig Loston and the #7 overall safety Devonte Holloman just decommitted from Clemson.
Their recruiting class is falling faster than the AIG stock .
by LSUfreek on Oct 13, 2008 1:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why assume Butch Davis would leave Chapel Hill? He’s already got a potential Mark Richt-type legacy situation in the making in what is the most pastoral of collegiate environs.
by Bobby Decatur on Oct 13, 2008 1:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Butch is not an option. Dick Baddour let Mack get away. If he knows what’s good for him, he won’t make that mistake again.
by Digital Headbutt on Oct 13, 2008 1:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The laughing just emphasizes the meltdown at Clemmons. A school that should have fired him years ago when it was only 2.5M, whose fans have been calling for his head every time they lose. A school who measures his success by beating a mediocre Carolina team, as opposed to his success in winning a mediocre ACC division.
by Carolina_girl on Oct 13, 2008 1:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
#6: The term in the ACC is “Grobed”. The history books will reflect this as follows:
In the ACC, both Bowden coaches, Junior and Senior, made famous the annual overhyped match up known as the Bowden Bowl. Ironically, both coaches were eventually Grobed of their jobs, although Senior was allowed to remain as figure head until [Joe Paterno died/he died]*.
*TBD
by Ted on Oct 13, 2008 1:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm???!! Dept:
I thought all Bowdens were fat-and-gnome-like.
by Stacy Kiebler Luvs Me on Oct 13, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tommy’s forearms are incredibly hairy. This had to have contributed to his demise.
TB, Fulmer and TT may all get together at the end of this season and go on vacation with thieir combined $16M worth of buy out money.
by The Snake will Drive Again! on Oct 13, 2008 1:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess they could stumble onto a coach who turns them into a perennial ACC contenders, but this is Clemson we’re talking about. Their only sustained period of success involved massive amounts of cheating. There are worse things than going 9-4 every year.
by Biggus Rickus on Oct 13, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
willykornwillykornwillykornwillykorn!
by gosouthgohard on Oct 13, 2008 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What #45 said. Clemson’s legacy in CFB is perpetually overrated. As is their position in the ACC pecking order.
Meanwhile, I wonder how Jon Richt is feeling right about now?
by Gen. Stoopnagle on Oct 13, 2008 2:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Spence fired too! I hear the waterboy’s next…haha.
by SportsJacket on Oct 13, 2008 2:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can we just go ahead and start the Saban to Clemson rumor already?
by Kevin@LSU on Oct 13, 2008 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Butch Davis is not an option for Clemson, but he will not be for Auburn or Tennessee, either.
Muschamp, Gary Patterson, maybe Dabo if he wins out, Bobby Johnson, and Jim Grobe. Grobe has told others he has no interest in the job.
I am going to let you in on a little secret about Muschamp. While he would prefer Auburn over Clemson, he will want no part of Tennessee. For starters, Tennessee will not throw Saban money at him, and rightfully so. He can make almost as much, possibly as much, at Clemson and have a much easier row to hoe until Georgia, Auburn, or Texas come calling.
We cannot beat out Auburn for Muschamp, but we can beat out, Tennessee. And, we would be a stepping stone job for him, but give me a couple of ACC titles and I don’t care.
As for SCar fans, Tommy is so pathetic that he went 7-2 versus you. What does that say about you?
by Coop on Oct 13, 2008 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good thing Tommy flirted with the Arkansas job, it gave him a nice golden parachute.
Here are some people I would look at, I have no idea if Clemson would hire them: 1) Will Muschamp, 2) Brian Kelly, 3) Lane Kiffen, 4) Todd Graham (has Saban-like jumping abilities)
Since Terry Bowden declares himself available for every coaching vacancy, how hilarious would it be if he lobbied for the job his brother just got fired from. I wouldn’t put it past him.
by John on Oct 13, 2008 3:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What about Petrino? He’s been in Arkansas for months now, probably long enough to think the grass might be greener in the ACC.
by DevilGrad on Oct 13, 2008 3:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Muschamp’s ours when Richt jumps ship to Miami in 2 -3 years, methinks.
by jamiedawg on Oct 13, 2008 3:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
51- Plus, you still haven’t lost to Vanderbilt! Or the 85 Bears!
by Chg on Oct 13, 2008 3:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I do not like this coveting of our defensive coordinator. My hope is that Texas enters into an agreement whereby Muschamp is Mack’s guaranteed successor. Texas certainly has the money to keep Muschamp happy in the interim, and it is questionable how much longer Mack would want to stay — particularly if he can go out on top this season or next (when Texas should be even better).
Hope is eternal, and I hope the same is true of Muschamp’s relationship with Texas.
by allaha on Oct 13, 2008 5:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FYI, Dabo was a WR at Bama. I would bet Muschamp would rather eat a turd than return to auburn. And ut does have the money to get him. That was a weird statement. However, not as weird as, “they would not throw saban money at him”. Why would they? I think that is reserved for qualified/proven HEAD coaches.
by King Harvest on Oct 14, 2008 8:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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