CURIOUS INDEX, 10/10/08

by Orson on Oct 10, 2008 9:22 AM EDT Comment 29 comments

Dead, again. With a 12-7 loss to Wake Forest jampacked with all the excitement you've come to expect from the Electric Sex Conference, the ACC, Tommy Bowden has reverted to familiar mid-season status as the dead guy with the headset. Ron Morris polishes off his "Tommy Bowden is totally dead this time and we mean it" piece, the same one you could have used four years running to look very prescient before the inevitable boot-and-rally Bowden curve.

We're not even sure .500 gets him fired, though: at 12 years, he's far more entrenched than you might think, and even with the bitch mentality at full blast Clemson's at least consistent under Bowden. It all depends on the administrative approach: if the Clemson admins view the football program as a beast they like to keep under wraps and properly chained, they'll keep him. If they think like, say, and Auburn or Florida, then he's joining Tony Franklin in the Sad White Box of Totally Fired Club.

(Giving James Davis a meagre 12 carries will get you that Sad White Box of Office Refuse, too.)

Let's set some records, people. Officials at Florida are all but explicitly dreading the possible fallout from a booze-amped night game at The Swamp involving both Florida fans and traveling LSU fans.

Loschiavo will be working at the police booking room during the LSU game to monitor student ejections. He's concerned the late start could mean a long evening.

"The later the game, the more ejections there are going to be because there's more time for people to drink," he said.

Steps to reduce the number of ejections will include heightened vigilance and preventing the entry of anyone who looks obviously intoxicated. Officials had no comment on whether they were going to adopt Notre Dame's policy of shooting the obviously intoxicated in the head at the gate, but we would implore them to remember that no matter how well armed they might be, these are LSU and Florida fans. Like Australian animals, they come barbed, fanged, and full of venom.

Sanchez: operational. Mark Sanchez is feeling good, and will likely start against Arizona State on Saturday. No dancing between now and then, Senor Sanchez. Rudy Carpenter, not so much.

"Captain Insano Shows No Mercy." From the Fort-Wayne Journal-Gazette:

So I'm pass setting and their defensive tackle comes over and gets some pressure on me and he pokes me in the eyes. I'm sitting there, one of my eyes is all blurry, and I'm going 'What the hell?'

"And he just goes, 'Captain Insano shows no mercy.' This is my first college game and so, I mean, quoting Waterboy. I'm just sitting there. I didn't really have any response to that. I don't know if you can top that one."

The other odd stories of being taunted, jabbed, poked, and prodded in ways verbal and literal may be found here.

Hattiesburg: 2 hott for TV. Larry Fedora has banned Southern Miss players from two Hattiesburg nightclubs after starting linebacker Korey Williams had his jaw broken by a bottle at The Palace. Clue: if a nightclub is named "The Palace," you are not a king, the place will not be palatial, and the only similarity between an actual palace and the club will be poor ventilation and bathrooms with a dungeon feel.

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Wake Forest must play Auburn in a bowl game this year. That way only one game will suck instead of two separate games. The final might be 2-0 or 3-0, but I doubt an endzone will be sullied.

by Crabapple Buck on Oct 10, 2008 9:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

My guess is it was Joe Anaoi (cousin to “the rock”) that did that. He’s got that wrastlin spirit to him.

by women and cookies on Oct 10, 2008 9:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

In other news, we’re kicking Greg Hardy off the team.

by Houston's Nutts on Oct 10, 2008 9:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Bouncing the ball off the DB’s head, midair, is pretty damned bad ass.

I never talked much on the field, figuring that if I was kicking your ass then you already knew it, and if you didn’t there was no reason to spoil the surprise waiting for you in the film room. Once though, after running for seven yards on 4th-and-six, I did briefly lose my mind. One of the defenders said, “Dammit, somebody stop him.”

I said, “Stop me?! Son, I am the Black Ghost. You can’t see me. You can’t stop me.” In my defense, I was 14 at the time.

by Harris on Oct 10, 2008 9:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The Bulldogs were able to keep everything under control in the stadium during a recent whiskey-soaked, late night football game. Of course, letting the other team drop 31 unanswered points on you in the first half might be a bit of a draconion way to handle crowd control.

by OhioDawg on Oct 10, 2008 9:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

@OhioDawg

Good point, but in this case, if the visiting team is up by 31 at the half, there will be drunken orgies and slaughtering of live animals to deep fry in the stands to celebrate. Alabama man, he can drink, but he’s got nothin on LSU fans.

by Berdingo on Oct 10, 2008 10:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think this is the last straw for Clemson fans. What you’re forgetting Orson is that this was actually the first time in Bowden’s tenure Clemson was picked to win the ACC. Usually they were picked second or third in the Division and that’s where they ended up. But I think Clemson fans have had enough and one more ACC loss and (heaven forbid) a loss to South Carolina would seal the deal. No way they are keeping him around with a 7-5 record and a trip to Nashville or Charlotte for a Bowl Game.

by Big Ern on Oct 10, 2008 10:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Oh, and by the way, I’ll take a 12-7 football score over a 3-2 football score any day of the week.

by Big Ern on Oct 10, 2008 10:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Pick Your Poison Dept:

Regarding Sanchez….even if he does not play or play much, Arky Mustain is more than ready to fill-in capably.

USC has already had its Pac-10 brain fart of the year, so they should win easily, or so I hope….

by Stacy Keibler Luvs Me on Oct 10, 2008 10:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

- really? Didn’t he just get back from an injury or suspension?

by The Snake will Drive Again! on Oct 10, 2008 10:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

OhioDawg

Being down 31 at halftime has a sobering effect. I have had similar experiences the last few years.

by Crabapple Buck on Oct 10, 2008 10:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

At least Terry’s post ass-kicked phone call to the opposing coach may go better:

Jim Grobe has a master’s in Guidance and Counseling from UVA… seriously.

by devin on Oct 10, 2008 10:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I’ll believe Bowden is dead when I see his resting atop Howard’s Rock.

by Biggus Rickus on Oct 10, 2008 10:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Um, that should be “…his severed head resting atop Howard’s Rock.”

Stupid brain.

by Biggus Rickus on Oct 10, 2008 10:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

OS – You may want to show the Campus 5-0 the following video. It’s a fair representation of what will be in attendance tomorrow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE_4NLK7sUo

Got a $47 house, and a half million dollar RV to follow the Tigers around.

by DrBundy on Oct 10, 2008 10:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Is Coop around? Take consolation that Clemson still hasn’t lost to Vanderbilt. Or the 85 Bears.

by chg on Oct 10, 2008 11:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Crab – Agreed. If you keep drinking after the beatdown is well underway, you’re probably wrestling with some bigger problems than the loss on the field!

by OhioDawg on Oct 10, 2008 11:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Tommy Bowden is a fine coach and should not be fired.

Bud Foster is not the head coach you’re looking for…

Jedi Wave

by Hokie Andrew on Oct 10, 2008 11:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

call me crazy, but the phrase “Hattiesburg Night Club” doesn’t exactly make me want to reach for my nice pants and head downtown anyway

by TGC on Oct 10, 2008 11:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Tammy has been living off his 7-2 record against the Gamecocks because most Clemson fans really only care about beating USC every year. I’m torn about Bowden. His dominance of the Gamecocks makes me say good riddance. But I know if he stays, Clemson will never win another ACC championship.

by joegamecock on Oct 10, 2008 11:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

@ 9, Arizona State’s season has been a disaster. I’d rather leave Carpenter on the sideline and let him rest up for the stretch run to the Emerald Bowl. >:-(

He shouldn’t have been talking so much trash to Follett. http://www.echofromthebuttes.com/2008/10/06/karmic-comeuppance-for-mouthy-rudy-carpenter/

by Echo from the Buttes on Oct 10, 2008 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

@20 This might be the greatest quote in the history of mankind:

“Cameron Jordan, a defensive end from Chandler High, described the play thusly: I saw Zack make contact and I might literally have stopped playing and just watched. I told the offensive lineman, Youre quarterback just died. If you guys could have seen the pain, his face when he got hit, it was the funniest thing in the world.

by Harris on Oct 10, 2008 12:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Giving James Davis a meagre 12 carries

Calling those “carries” is generous with that “blocking”.

Oklahoma drills, or as we called it as children “Smear The Queer,” is more like it.

by Ted on Oct 10, 2008 12:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That was brutal last night…even moreso in person. Unfortunately I’m not sure if our AD and President have the balls to fire Bowden before the weekend is over. Even if Bowden wins out, we won’t make it to the ACC Championship game, and there will be enough unrest in the program to can him. They only way for him to keep his job this year was to make it the the ACCCG, and that isn’t happening anymore. We really need to go ahead and get rid of him and Spence and begin the coaching search.

by Clemson327 on Oct 10, 2008 12:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Guess those kids will have to skip the Hattiesburg night club and go on up the road to Ellisville or Laurel

by Kerwin4two on Oct 10, 2008 12:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

@22, yes, clearly no love lost between Cal and Rudy Carpenter. Or much of the ASU fan base and Rudy Carpenter for that matter. Some people are genuinely happy that he’s hurt. Check out what we wrote preseason …

http://www.echofromthebuttes.com/2008/08/22/rudy-carpenter-legacy-more-plummer-or-more-kealy/

by Echo from the Buttes on Oct 10, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Echo-

Unfortunately, the Emerald Bowl looks like a high ceiling right now. If Rudy beats U of A this year to go 4-0 against them, he will go down in the good graces of Sun Devil history. Other than that, he’s been pretty meh. I would even credit his success as a freshman to being a Koetter system QB.

To me at least, starting Danny Sullivan on Saturday is a lose-lose situation for ASU. Not only does he fail to provide a chance to win, he’s keeping the young QBs with talent and promise off the field. I don’t know about you, but I’ve seen Sullivan fumble enough snaps to last a lifetime. Hopefully Rey Maluaga (sp?) can get him out of the way.

A-State threadjack w00000t!

by Big Jon on Oct 10, 2008 2:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs