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	<title>Comments on: FRANK DEFORD: SOUTHERNERS LIKE FOOTBALL BECAUSE WE&#8217;RE PLANTATIONEERS!</title>
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		<title>By: scooter</title>
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		<dc:creator>scooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 04:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TAFKastOSUB: FWIW, I for one think you&#039;re on to something, there. We do take it more seriously. But then, if you&#039;ve ever been to a Red Sox, Yankees, or Mets game you&#039;d get the same vibe.

It is what it is - that pretty much sums it up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TAFKastOSUB: FWIW, I for one think you&#8217;re on to something, there. We do take it more seriously. But then, if you&#8217;ve ever been to a Red Sox, Yankees, or Mets game you&#8217;d get the same vibe.</p>
<p>It is what it is &#8211; that pretty much sums it up</p>
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		<title>By: hlh</title>
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		<dc:creator>hlh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 03:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Miss HornDawg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss HornDawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I&#039;m surprised no one has challenged  DeFord to a duel.  You know, since we Southerners are so damned violent and all.  DeFord has insulted the honor of Southerners everywhere.  Well, I demand satisfaction.  I&#039;m going to send Sampson down the road now to Cousin Tollover&#039;s place to summon my second. 
 
I think we&#039;ve now exhausted all sterotypical behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I&#8217;m surprised no one has challenged  DeFord to a duel.  You know, since we Southerners are so damned violent and all.  DeFord has insulted the honor of Southerners everywhere.  Well, I demand satisfaction.  I&#8217;m going to send Sampson down the road now to Cousin Tollover&#8217;s place to summon my second. </p>
<p>I think we&#8217;ve now exhausted all sterotypical behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: cscott</title>
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		<dc:creator>cscott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>miles is the J.E.B. stuart of the sec.  it takes mucho grande cojones to take your cavalry unit around and behind the yankee army to gather intel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>miles is the J.E.B. stuart of the sec.  it takes mucho grande cojones to take your cavalry unit around and behind the yankee army to gather intel.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr.Pelican Pants</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr.Pelican Pants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow....I dont know if this piece was more Dave Chappell or Jimmy the Greek.......but we win either way so I&#039;ll take it......
One wonders if he can make the same argument for Hockey and proximity to Canada......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;.I dont know if this piece was more Dave Chappell or Jimmy the Greek&#8230;&#8230;.but we win either way so I&#8217;ll take it&#8230;&#8230;<br />
One wonders if he can make the same argument for Hockey and proximity to Canada&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Gurgling Cod</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Gurgling Cod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, the book Deford describes as &quot;brilliant,&quot; &lt;i&gt;Albion&#039;s Seed&lt;/i&gt; was one of the worst-reviewed academic books of the last quarter century. But in general, his little observations are the worst thing on NPR this side of Garrison Kellior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, the book Deford describes as &#8220;brilliant,&#8221; <i>Albion&#8217;s Seed</i> was one of the worst-reviewed academic books of the last quarter century. But in general, his little observations are the worst thing on NPR this side of Garrison Kellior.</p>
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		<title>By: shanensga</title>
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		<dc:creator>shanensga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#43 makes some good points, also the South had no monopoly on Celts, the Irish Brigade from NYC is one example, also it was Gen GRANT that brought the war to a close. The &quot;plantation mentality&quot; is also a myth based on &quot;Gone with the Wind&quot; and other romance novels and movies. Large plantations were rare and the great majority {70 to 75%} of Southern soldiers did not own slaves. Most Southerners were small farmers and merchants that just wanted to be left alone. The expression &quot;rich man&#039;s war, po&#039; man&#039;s fight&quot; was common in BOTH armies. Celtic warriors did not make the SEC great,  it was after Black players were recruited by SEC schools that the SEC became such a power. I am of Highland Scots descent and proud of My heritage, and they were great warriors, but that has nothing to do with SEC football today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#43 makes some good points, also the South had no monopoly on Celts, the Irish Brigade from NYC is one example, also it was Gen GRANT that brought the war to a close. The &#8220;plantation mentality&#8221; is also a myth based on &#8220;Gone with the Wind&#8221; and other romance novels and movies. Large plantations were rare and the great majority {70 to 75%} of Southern soldiers did not own slaves. Most Southerners were small farmers and merchants that just wanted to be left alone. The expression &#8220;rich man&#8217;s war, po&#8217; man&#8217;s fight&#8221; was common in BOTH armies. Celtic warriors did not make the SEC great,  it was after Black players were recruited by SEC schools that the SEC became such a power. I am of Highland Scots descent and proud of My heritage, and they were great warriors, but that has nothing to do with SEC football today.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking as a native old South southerner, born and bred, anyone that denies that SEC fans on some level are not reliving the ideals of The War of Northern Aggression every Saturday is lying.

I heard the piece this morning, it was said with a humorous tongue-in-cheek spirit, full of praise to the ESSSS-EEHHEEE-SEEE, and found it spot-on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking as a native old South southerner, born and bred, anyone that denies that SEC fans on some level are not reliving the ideals of The War of Northern Aggression every Saturday is lying.</p>
<p>I heard the piece this morning, it was said with a humorous tongue-in-cheek spirit, full of praise to the ESSSS-EEHHEEE-SEEE, and found it spot-on.</p>
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		<title>By: TheMightyErik</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheMightyErik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@18

Uhhhh... better check your numbers as far as how Texas doesn&#039;t educate anyone. No one, and I mean no one, in the south should ever bring the education argument to the fight 

http://www.ssti.org/Digest/Tables/071006t.htm

@25

Agree. Weather is huge in recruting and that&#039;s why PSU, tOSu, ND, Michy, etc all jam their recruits in for visits in Sept and Oct before things turn to frozen shit up there when everyone else is wearing shorts and bikini tops in duh... err The SEC and the Pac 10</description>
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<p>Uhhhh&#8230; better check your numbers as far as how Texas doesn&#8217;t educate anyone. No one, and I mean no one, in the south should ever bring the education argument to the fight </p>
<p><a href="http://www.ssti.org/Digest/Tables/071006t.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ssti.org/Digest/Tables/071006t.htm</a></p>
<p>@25</p>
<p>Agree. Weather is huge in recruting and that&#8217;s why PSU, tOSu, ND, Michy, etc all jam their recruits in for visits in Sept and Oct before things turn to frozen shit up there when everyone else is wearing shorts and bikini tops in duh&#8230; err The SEC and the Pac 10</p>
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		<title>By: ronald</title>
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		<dc:creator>ronald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rickus, I agree. It is interesting, though, to ponder why different areas have different emphases, but my guess is that interest follows success. They love baseball in NYC because the Yankees have won 26 world series. Then again, you&#039;ve got the Cubs...

And 40 has a point. The different-ness exists, but to this day, putting your finger on the WHY is pretty much impossible without making sweeping generalizations that are generally idiotic but may have tiny slivers of truth to them. 

I&#039;ll just say whatever, we&#039;re better, woo doggy get me a beer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rickus, I agree. It is interesting, though, to ponder why different areas have different emphases, but my guess is that interest follows success. They love baseball in NYC because the Yankees have won 26 world series. Then again, you&#8217;ve got the Cubs&#8230;</p>
<p>And 40 has a point. The different-ness exists, but to this day, putting your finger on the WHY is pretty much impossible without making sweeping generalizations that are generally idiotic but may have tiny slivers of truth to them. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll just say whatever, we&#8217;re better, woo doggy get me a beer.</p>
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		<title>By: curveball</title>
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		<dc:creator>curveball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are two things that make me turn NPR in the AM:

1:  Human interest stories (the one-legged , lesbian eskimo artist who overcomes).

2.  Frank DeFord

Unfortunately, I was late and in the shower this am and had to listen to this. Way too many people down here (see Jim Webb) take pride in the scots-irish, white trash, let&#039;s a go a brawlin&#039; thing.  

And it seems Frank is gettin awfully close to the Nolan Richardson &quot;this is where the slave ships docked&quot; argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are two things that make me turn NPR in the AM:</p>
<p>1:  Human interest stories (the one-legged , lesbian eskimo artist who overcomes).</p>
<p>2.  Frank DeFord</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I was late and in the shower this am and had to listen to this. Way too many people down here (see Jim Webb) take pride in the scots-irish, white trash, let&#8217;s a go a brawlin&#8217; thing.  </p>
<p>And it seems Frank is gettin awfully close to the Nolan Richardson &#8220;this is where the slave ships docked&#8221; argument.</p>
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		<title>By: aventius</title>
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		<dc:creator>aventius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was also thinking about maybe its Deford&#039;s location that is affecting his idea. He, and I  now, live in Connecticut... where NOBODY cares about college football.  People care about two things, the Yankees and the Red Sox and that&#039;s because there are not any good teams in the area.  UCONN has developed well but hasn&#039;t been good long enough to warrant fanaticism. What else is there? SUNY schools? Yale? UVM? URI? UMASS? They all suck.  The closest schools that are decent are BC and PSU and for us northerners that is way too far away to associate with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was also thinking about maybe its Deford&#8217;s location that is affecting his idea. He, and I  now, live in Connecticut&#8230; where NOBODY cares about college football.  People care about two things, the Yankees and the Red Sox and that&#8217;s because there are not any good teams in the area.  UCONN has developed well but hasn&#8217;t been good long enough to warrant fanaticism. What else is there? SUNY schools? Yale? UVM? URI? UMASS? They all suck.  The closest schools that are decent are BC and PSU and for us northerners that is way too far away to associate with.</p>
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		<title>By: DC Trojan</title>
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		<dc:creator>DC Trojan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m calling bullshit on Deford, but not because I&#039;m a southerner. 

For one thing, he doesn&#039;t know his &quot;Celtic&quot; lunatics from his ass. From Scotland, the north of England, and northern Ireland? They&#039;re all the same people. The Scotland - England border is reflective of which group of Norman-settler aristocrats sold out to which king, not a bright line between woad-painting crazies and whippet-walking, pigeon-racing Newcastle fans. 

And the Scots-Irish who arrived from Ulster had been sent there as Scottish enforcers and then evicted for being *too* crazy even for the English overlords to tolerate: the kind of people who would behead a cow because it plainly had been kneeling in the direction of the Vatican and the Romish Prince (you think I&#039;m joking...)

So not only does Deford not know his &lt;i&gt;ur&lt;/i&gt; rednecks, he then starts in on the idea of the warrior race - also known as the British Imperial lie told to the Scots to persuade them to take their shit on the road after the &#039;45 uprising, and to justify divide-and-conquer policies in colonial India. (Except for the Ghurkas, they really are that crazy.)

If you&#039;re going down that path, why not reflect the actual ethnic make-up of SEC teams and talk about the Ashanti, Mandinko, and Fulani warriors as well? Perhaps because African-American players aren&#039;t taking to the field with spears and shields, much the same way that the Scots-Irish-American ones aren&#039;t sporting woad. 

What a worthless twat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m calling bullshit on Deford, but not because I&#8217;m a southerner. </p>
<p>For one thing, he doesn&#8217;t know his &#8220;Celtic&#8221; lunatics from his ass. From Scotland, the north of England, and northern Ireland? They&#8217;re all the same people. The Scotland &#8211; England border is reflective of which group of Norman-settler aristocrats sold out to which king, not a bright line between woad-painting crazies and whippet-walking, pigeon-racing Newcastle fans. </p>
<p>And the Scots-Irish who arrived from Ulster had been sent there as Scottish enforcers and then evicted for being *too* crazy even for the English overlords to tolerate: the kind of people who would behead a cow because it plainly had been kneeling in the direction of the Vatican and the Romish Prince (you think I&#8217;m joking&#8230;)</p>
<p>So not only does Deford not know his <i>ur</i> rednecks, he then starts in on the idea of the warrior race &#8211; also known as the British Imperial lie told to the Scots to persuade them to take their shit on the road after the &#8216;45 uprising, and to justify divide-and-conquer policies in colonial India. (Except for the Ghurkas, they really are that crazy.)</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going down that path, why not reflect the actual ethnic make-up of SEC teams and talk about the Ashanti, Mandinko, and Fulani warriors as well? Perhaps because African-American players aren&#8217;t taking to the field with spears and shields, much the same way that the Scots-Irish-American ones aren&#8217;t sporting woad. </p>
<p>What a worthless twat.</p>
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		<title>By: dirt sandwhich</title>
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		<dc:creator>dirt sandwhich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So there&#039;s a Hooters here, I went to Hooters the other day in Beijing. I&#039;ve been to probably 250 Hooters across the country and world. It&#039;s the only Hooters I&#039;ve ever been to that didn&#039;t have any Bud Light or blonds. I was very disappointed.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So there&#8217;s a Hooters here, I went to Hooters the other day in Beijing. I&#8217;ve been to probably 250 Hooters across the country and world. It&#8217;s the only Hooters I&#8217;ve ever been to that didn&#8217;t have any Bud Light or blonds. I was very disappointed.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Biggus Rickus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biggus Rickus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ronald,

My opinion is that college football fanaticism in the south is pretty much the same as sports fanaticism all over the world with the exception of the &quot;SEC&quot; chant, which I think is pretty fucking stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ronald,</p>
<p>My opinion is that college football fanaticism in the south is pretty much the same as sports fanaticism all over the world with the exception of the &#8220;SEC&#8221; chant, which I think is pretty fucking stupid.</p>
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