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BLOGPOLL, WEEK FOUR DRAFT: GIBBERISH. ABSOLUTE GIBBERISH

This week's draft is below. Sense, this makes none.

Rank Team Delta
1 Southern Cal --
2 Georgia 1
3 LSU 7
4 Florida --
5 Oklahoma 3
6 Penn State 1
7 Missouri 1
8 Alabama 4
9 Wake Forest 5
10 Brigham Young 3
11 South Florida --
12 Texas 3
13 Texas Tech 2
14 Auburn 5
15 Ohio State 1
16 Oklahoma State 6
17 Wisconsin 9
18 Kansas --
19 Utah 2
20 Boise State 6
21 TCU 4
22 Fresno State 4
23 Nebraska 1
24 Vanderbilt 2
25 Georgia Tech 1

Dropped Out: East Carolina (#13), Oregon (#17), West Virginia (#20), Clemson (#23).

Ya Bully Rah for: LSU, Alabama, and Wake Forest, who all look intimidating in their own weird ways. LSU: Bold, aromatic talent; Alabama, formidable body and flavor throughout; Wake Forest, the economy pick for the smart consumer.

BOO'ins for: East Carolina, who we may mercifully drop, Oregon, WVU, and Clemson. Double boos for Oklahoma State and Texas Tech, who are both probably too high for any sense to really justify, but points pretty things exploding Big 12 cupcake illusory BOOM YEAH.

The rest: is gibberish, but you're damn right that's Vanderbilt down there.

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I’m as big a Gator and SEC homer as you’re likely to find, but I must question Oklahoma behind LSU and UF. Oklahoma is frightening in many ways. The least of which being that they currently have a more complete offensive attack than either UF or LSU and have a nasty, SEC-like defense. I’m still thinking that they’re a legitimate #2.

Of course, I’m not taking into account their propensity for January meltdowns….

by ChandlerPIrvin on Sep 21, 2008 11:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Auburn? At #14? Moving up 5 spots? After losing to LSU this week, and barely holding off a horrid Mississippi State team last week?

by Tyler on Sep 21, 2008 11:06 AM EDT reply actions  

The sixth layer of hell is starting to ice over. I hope you’re happy Vandy.

by Erica on Sep 21, 2008 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Orson,
Please explain the rational for dropping OU to 5 (and you know how painful this is for me to ask, damn it) when they had a bye.

Texas moving down a few notches?

I’m just calling this SEC bias unless I am proved wrong.

Your loyal viewers deserve an explanation or we’re just moving on to…well, no. There isn’t a better site.

by blon on Sep 21, 2008 11:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Blon: because the bye means we get no data, and thus have to move up teams that spent the weekend playing football. On the revision we’ll apply the rule more evenly, but that’s the rationale.

As for Texas, they’ll probably continue to drop because of their schedule that stays nougaty-soft until they play Colorado and then Oklahoma.

by Orson Swindle on Sep 21, 2008 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

@ Erica: Don’t worry, hell will stop freezing over once I ask the following question and jinx the whole endeavor:

Could my beloved Vandy win 9 games (Mississippi St, Duke, Kentucky, Tennessee, Wake Forest) this season???

Now we’ll be lucky to get one from here on out. Happy?

by HOSS on Sep 21, 2008 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

#5-Fair enough.

I was watching the Big 12 show this morning on Fox Sports SW (which tells you how bored I was at 8am this morning- Fox SW is horrific). The conversation turned to the defenses in the conference and the lack thereof. I got me thinking…are they that bad overall or it that the offenses in the conference are so good that our view is skewed? And how can you compare stats from other teams (defenses) when the qb/receiver combos may not be on the same level? (Daniel is very talented, but without Maclin, would he have the stats that he does? Bradford is surrounded by talent everywhere-line, receivers, etc. Not to take away from his talent, either.) You can look at baseline talent on each team and make some determination, but what about the unit as a whole?

by blon on Sep 21, 2008 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Are you sure it should be Georgia Tech and not Virginia Tech? The Hokies did beat the Jackets…

by Hoagie on Sep 21, 2008 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

blon,

The only teams to display any ability on the defensive side of the ball this week were Texas and Colorado, and I’m reserving judgement on Colorado because they went against a truly retarded offensive coaching staff.

by Biggus Rickus on Sep 21, 2008 12:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Poor Oregon. They go through quarterbacks like candy.

They finished the Boise State game with their fourth string, in case nobody’s paying attention.

by Erik on Sep 21, 2008 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

What I just can’t get out of my head is the fact that Georgia, after playing a top 10 ranked Alabama this upcoming weekend, has to go to LSU, then Florida, and then Auburn. Jesus, watching those teams play this weekend makes that look like the gauntlet it was purported to be prior to the season beginning. I mean, Tennessee’s fallen off, but Vandy (!?!) is undefeated and gunning for Georgia as well. Hell, every ESSEECEE team we play this year might be ranked at some point during the season! If Kentucky can hold up it’s end of the bargain before November, that might be unprecedented.

by blackertai on Sep 21, 2008 12:41 PM EDT reply actions  

They will put another 24 point beatdown on the Plainsmen. And dance on the sidelines when they do it. Hell, Verne and Gary will probably join in again.

by lola on Sep 21, 2008 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe it was just the hangover talking (a saucy little merlot-cab blend at Bistro Vida, Menlo Park, CA, which I don’t think you’re meant to drink straight from the bottle) but I am pretty sure the priest was not supposed to be preaching out of the book of Revelations this morning.

DYNAMITE GO VU!! Now watch us shat the bed by 35 in the next game.

by Vandy J on Sep 21, 2008 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

O,

You’re right. Sense. None whatsoever. BUT, you are consistent in that you penalize teams for playing cupcakes, see e.g, Mizzou, Penn St., Tex, BYU….then reward Texas Tech and tUOS for, um, playing cupcakes?

And, consistently, logically ding OU and Wisconsin for being idle, while, um, rewarding Nebraska and Okie State for the bye?

[/vandydemandsarecount]

by Der Schatten on Sep 21, 2008 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Vandy is #21 in the AP and #25 in the USA Today polls.

THE END IS NEAR

by Jerkwheat on Sep 21, 2008 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

And I’m not sure I understand the severe drop for Wiscy, particularly with Fesno State getting a four-point jump. At first, I thought you downgraded Wiscy because Fresno State just barely pulled one out against Toledo. So, I suppose the argument was that the close call against Toledo makes Fresno State suspect and therefore the close win by Wiscy is now suspect.

But I see Fresno State ranked and getting a boost.

by BuckeyeBeau on Sep 21, 2008 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I fail to see the relevancy of WF being ahead of BYU… The Stormin’ Mormons (which is a way cooler nickname than whatever they could possibly call themselves) have won 103-0 in the last two games, where as Wake beat a team that hasn’t had an offense about 5 years…. And yes, I consider Wyoming/UCLA the equal caliber of ACC competition.

by beckett929 on Sep 21, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Ladies and Germs, here are your SEC East Champions…The Fighting Commodores of Vanderbilt

by joegamecock on Sep 21, 2008 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

We know LSU has the talent, we know Les has the balls and if Lee can even approximate that second half performance with some consistency then…

The first bowl season I recollect, 1982, Vandy went. The next year an issue of SI had them ranked with a 4-0 start. Vandy excllence or at least competence in football seemed par for the course.

How astonishingly magnificent (if virtually impossible) would it be for Vandy to take the East and then take Les, his balls and his Tigers to the wire in the SECCG.

by marcillac(arundel) on Sep 21, 2008 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

So LSU is deeper than Auburn overall and the big taiback runs hard… but that long td pass that broke it open was kind of uh, lucky.

Maybe I’m less impressed with Auburn than overly impressed with LSU. Auburn’s offensive line is not deep, and not very impressive.
 
The Hat called a great game, though. The 4th down they converted, and the half-back pass…

by Not The Mama on Sep 21, 2008 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Bama looked good. We’ve taken to calling our quarterback “Princess” for some reason this season.

He gives us the best chance to win.

by Not the Mama on Sep 21, 2008 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Personally, I don’t think there is any way Neb should be sniffing the top 25 right now. Beat Va Tech, maybe, but Vandy and Ga Tech have both done far more than Neb.

Texas’ D is pretty legit, that is a solid offense they faced in Rice, not USC 2005, but decent.

by meatybob on Sep 21, 2008 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

It is far too early for Ohio State

Der Schatten, OSU plays cupcakes? USC is a cupcake?
Typical Vandy fan, wakes up once every 10 years in September with delusions of grandeur and thinks he understands college ball. Don’t worry, you’ll be back in hibernation in 2-3 weeks.

by DrHolthz on Sep 21, 2008 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

It is far too early for Ohio State to not be in the top 3. Don’t you know that?

by DrHolthz on Sep 21, 2008 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Orson moved Auburn up probably because we looked better in losing to LSU last night than we did in beating Miss St. last weekend.

The last time Vandy was ranked in the AP poll, I was four months old.

by WarCardinals on Sep 21, 2008 5:29 PM EDT reply actions  

There’s absolutely no reason Wake Forest should be a top-ten team. None.

by Rockabye Reggie Nelson on Sep 21, 2008 5:46 PM EDT reply actions  

hey, who do I have to pink torpedo around here to get some coverage of the last game at yankee stadium? I mean, come on ESPN, only ONE channel 100% dedicated to a ball park? Please save us!

by meatybob on Sep 21, 2008 5:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Oklahoma moves down after having a bye week? I must question that, they didn’t do anything wrong to have a down arrow?

by OH Hai on Sep 21, 2008 6:09 PM EDT reply actions  

There are a lot of inconsistencies:
1) OU drops for a bye, USC and other teams do not.
2) Texas’s defense played well against Rice, a team that almost beat ranked (sic, normally would be rank) Vandy on the road.
3) PSU is at 6, but there schedule hitherto is filled with cupcakes.

Although I am biased, Texas deserves more love than is given at 12.

by allaha on Sep 21, 2008 6:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Jesus H. Tapdancing Christ der shatten. WTF are you inhaling? Play Southern Cal and tell me what a cupcake they are. I hope they play an SEC team in the BCSNCG to shut up all of the pinheads that think football is only played in the south and everywhere else is some form of pussified rugby.

Orson obviously has issues with ratings since he is nearly MSM now. But a BCS bid doesn’t depend on it and I’m sure after a few more weeks, things will shake out. BTW, tOSU is doing what needed to be done and getting ready to piss off a bunch of people in Pasadena, this year and next.

by Crabapple Buck on Sep 21, 2008 6:59 PM EDT reply actions  

I understand that you can get passed while on a bye if someone else has an impressive win. But nine teams passing Wisconsin? Including an Auburn team that lost?

by SpartanDan on Sep 21, 2008 7:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Offhand, it looks like Wake Forest and Wisconsin should be switched. This is more a statement against Wake Forest (who really didn’t do anything other than let Florida State prove they suck, same as it’s been) than it is for Wisconsin, who seems to have dropped because the coin kept coming up tails instead of on-field play. That’s not terrible as reasons go, as long as it’s just a draft.

by Graysnail on Sep 21, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

@ Angry Buckeyes

Playing a non-cupcake and getting your ass handed to you isn’t impressive. If it were, the directional Louisianas and Michigans of the world would all be ranked.

Mediocre wins over cupcakes (see Ohio, and Troy, ibid.) does nothing but convince the rest of us that right now, OSU is probably staring up at PennSt. (if their players can avoid jail) and Wisconsin. And because I hate them, I’d love to see an Northwestern and/or MSU upset of the suckeyes as well.

by Will (the other one) on Sep 21, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions  

23…

Ummm. 1. Not a ’Dore. 2. I am pointing out that OSU has played three patsies and one team of relevance: looked like shit against two patsies, got their best player injured in the other. 3. As for the team of relevance. Well, yeah, at least sweatervest saved the flyover another January embarrassment. 4. Buffoon.

by Der Schatten on Sep 21, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

VANDERBILT, MOTHERFUCKS!

by 3L Over the Line, Sweet Jesus on Sep 21, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

If you are going to criticize the poll, you should know where it comes from. It’s not Orson’s decision, which is why it’s called the “Blogpoll,” rather than “Orson’s Patented EDSBS Poll,” which then we’d have one from Holly, too, I imagine. Go back to this post to see how to figure it out:

http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2008/08/20/blogpoll-week-negative-one/

About a billion blogs vote, and they come up with this approximation/abomination (depending on your perspective):

http://mgoblog.com/blogpoll/voter-grid.php

That’s it. So don’t blame the man; it’s just reportage. Blogs being what they are, no professional lack-of-bias required when placing votes. Not that that counts for AP or USA Today, either. Pay no attention to the man behind the green curtain. Make a blog, I guess, if you want a say.

Oh, and I’m with Will (the other one). Ohio St can hardly hang its hat on Ohio and Troy St.

by HOSS on Sep 21, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Hoss, I think YOU are the one who doesn’t understand this. Yes, the blogpoll is the final standings of the ballots of hundreds of blogs, but THIS poll we’re all bickering about is EDSBS’s personal poll that they submit to the overall rankings. So yes, Its perfectly fine for people to take their shots at Orson where they see fit

by gobrutus on Sep 21, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

My bad, then. All apologies. Stand by the Ohio State comment, though.

by HOSS on Sep 21, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Pussified Rugby…I’m intrigued.

by Kecalf Bailey on Sep 21, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

#33

I see you’ve swallowed the Penn State and Wisky Kool-Aid.

Those teams will lose to tOSU by a combined 4 tds. Even though I’m a Buckeye, I admit this will unfortunately speak volumes about the Big 10.

by db on Sep 21, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

@ 40: In the respectfully disagree category. A) OSU will win a hard fought one against Wiscy. B) Even JayPa can look at film and deduce that , why yes, tUOS has a very very difficult time matching up with secondary receivers in space. Combine that glaring weakness, a mortal running game (depending on Beanie), PSU having better speed and a freshman QB, and I’m thinking that it’s PSU’s year to demolish one of the lil’ sisters in Pasadena (assuming that USC BEST TEAM EVAH! goes through unscathed).

by Der Schatten on Sep 21, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

For the record, I don’t have any input into this or any other blogpoll ballot, other than occasionally berating PB for some imagined slight to some school.

That said, I would’ve ranked the SHIT out of Vanderbilt too. This is awesome.

by Holly on Sep 21, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

41

You give JayPa too much credit. The secondary receivers in space weakness was there last year too, didn’t seem like he caught on then. I also fully expect Beanie to be back by then, and our Freshman qb is no ordinary freshman.

that being said, they could still lose. It’s a rare night game in Ohio Stadium so I wouldn’t count on it.

by db on Sep 22, 2008 12:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Crabapple Buck:

Calling a blogger “nearly MSM” cuts like a knife to his soul. Why do people care so much about polls in week 4 anyway? Finally, just because your overrated team got destroyed by USC, it doesn’t mean one of our teams will.

by PW on Sep 22, 2008 8:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Excuse me, sir, but you have neglected to rank my still undefeated football team. I realize Minnesota hasn’t played anyone yet and has yet another cupcake this weekend, but I really would appreciate a little love. We’ll get around to playing a real football team in a few weeks.

by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Sep 22, 2008 8:32 AM EDT reply actions  

C’mon Orson, no love for the Spartans by you either, what gives? I think that we match up favorably against most of those teams you ranked 16-25. I realize it doesn’t matter what your ranked until the end of the season, but we spanked Rudy and sent him crying back to South Bend(aka Spartan Stadium South). J-Claw is an escaped Emu and Jabba Weiss looked really hot in those warmups, I guess he learned how to dress from gray hooded sweatshirt. GO GREEN!

by Ringer 4 Heisman on Sep 22, 2008 10:13 AM EDT reply actions  

PW @ 44: Given past results, 35-2, might be a good result for an SEC team facing USC. They hung 50 on Arkansas the year the pigs won their 1/2 of the SEC.

by oc phil on Sep 22, 2008 11:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Two words… Ball. State.

by AlanInDC on Sep 22, 2008 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

So Wake is top 10 and Clemson isn’t top 25? I guess that means you’ll be betting the farm on Wake when they play a week from Thursday and Clemson is favored?

by Rob on Sep 22, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Will @33: The Bucknutz go to Evanston this year, so it’s not completely impossible.

Main thing for me right now is, Beat Iowa. It doesn’t have to be a pounding. In truth, I think I’d rather pull it out on a last-minute drive. More uncontrollable sobbing that way.

by PJ from NU in SF on Sep 22, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply actions  

USF stays at #11 even after they can’t put away a team that would have a hard time beating Armwood High School? In that case, I want it to be included in the BCS.

by JD on Sep 23, 2008 12:24 AM EDT reply actions  

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