CURIOUS INDEX, 9/8/08
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All is right: LSUFreek and Photoshop are reunited. LSUFreek spent the past week running around the Louisiana/Mississippi area fleeing Gustav and its various side effects. Fortunately for humanity, he is back in place in an undestroyed home, drank in one hand and Photoshop in the other, to give you the full NPRish account of both Gustav’s aftermath, and its devastating effects on Chris Smelley. In Gainesville we refer to that as “discretion.” Steve Spurrier would have thrown a fade to the back of the endzone, but let’s not let little details like past precedent or the fact that you’re on the field and playing football get in the way of what you’ll say anyway: Randy Shannon didn’t have anything to say about the Florida field goal with 1:56 left on the clock, except for that thing that he said. ”I’ll just say this one statement,” Shannon told reporters. “Sometimes when you do things, and people see what type of person you really are, you turn a lot of people off. Now, whatever you want to get out of that, I won’t say it again. But it helped us. It helped us more than you’ll ever know.” It certainly helped Miami more than their offense did Saturday night, then. (The Reggie Ball offense lives!) “Running up the score” is a term Mike Lupica uses. That alone should disqualify its use as a term of serious meaning or use in any corners of the known universe. BEES! Tony Barnhart wonders out loud if Georgia Tech can win the ACC Coastal, a possibility if Miami continues to use the same offense that crippled Tech’s chances in the division and the division–Duke, Miami, Virginia Tech, Virginia, and UNC–continues its uniform crapulence. Tech won an ugly, sloppy, messy, fumble-filled 19-16 win over Boston College Saturday, but it was a win nonetheless. The November 20th GT/Miami game in Atlanta might be a race to six points for victory. Paul Johnson’s number one friend in year one: other teams’ galling mediocrity. Rick Neuheisel is Stringfellow Hawk. Helicopters. Yes, helicopters, bitches. Penn State’s Jerome Hayes, three bad letters for you: A-C-L. The PSU starting DE is out for the rest of the year with the dreaded “timing belt of the knee” injury. |
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1
Slow, Fat & White says:
Discretion indeed. Randy Shannon is all class. Nice handshake too, btw.
September 8th, 2008 at 8:38 am
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Doug says:
“Oh, yeah, Paul Johnson, what are you gonna do? Sic the dogs on us? Or the bees? Or the dogs that have bees in their mouth and when they bark, they shoot bees at you??”
September 8th, 2008 at 8:39 am
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hobeg8r says:
So Randy Shannon isn’t buying the “Jonathan Phillips needed some practice” line?
September 8th, 2008 at 8:43 am
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Jonathan says:
I missed the handshake at the end of the game, what happened?
September 8th, 2008 at 8:44 am
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Biggus Rickus says:
I don’t hate the field goal so much for being a classless move, but for fucking up my prediction of Miami barely covering. If I actually gambled on these games I’d be even more pissed.
September 8th, 2008 at 8:48 am
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Biggus Rickus says:
Jonathan,
When Meyer reached to take Shannon’s hand he pulled it back and ran it through his hair and he was all like, “Psyyyyche!”
September 8th, 2008 at 8:49 am
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hobeg8r says:
From what I saw – Randy Shannon did not shake Meyer’s hand – more of a bump with his hand – and outta there. No words exchanged. No forced congratulations. Nothing.
September 8th, 2008 at 8:50 am
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plastic paddy says:
it was the the Obama bump, Coach Meyer didn’t understand.
September 8th, 2008 at 9:03 am
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Rock says:
The greatest part about the “handshake” was Meyer smiling (and laughing a little) as he watched Shannon run away like he was going to face the same demise as his friend Walter!
If Miami didn’t like it, they should have had the defense stop it!
September 8th, 2008 at 9:05 am
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Stacy Keibler Luvs Me says:
This is Really Class-less Dept:
Normally, I would agree that running up the score is not really cool, unless for the following two exceptions:
1) Rivalry Game: Running up the score as much as possible is totally acceptable….no mercy!
2) Showing Donna Shalala Commercials: “Da U” actually showed a half-time commercial showing their “college” prez, Ms Shalalala-bing-bong. If you are going to do somethang that dastardly, then running up the score as much as possible is also totally acceptable
September 8th, 2008 at 9:07 am
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AlanInDC says:
I would hardly call Meyer and the Gators kicking that field goal classless or even running it up. First of all, Spurrier kicked that shit up 70, so really, Shannon had it easy. Second, it’s Da U, and you can bet your sweet ass that if they could have, they would have. Instead of bitching and moaning, maybe Shannon should be figuring out how to run an offense that doesn’t suck the sweat off a dead man’s balls.
September 8th, 2008 at 9:11 am
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blon says:
Shannon didn’t have anything to do with the past and U’s reputation, but he can’t be surprised when other teams want to beat the crap of this program. They made their own reputation and now they get to deal with the aftermath, even if that continues on years later.
Stop whining.
September 8th, 2008 at 9:13 am
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Useful Idiot says:
Running up the score? Maybe.
Covering the spread? Definitely.
September 8th, 2008 at 9:23 am
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Der Schatten says:
Let’s talk about the biggest hosejob of the week: I know it was seen by an audience of tens, but SDSU got the first rate anal violation by ND officials and Team Hammond. Up 13-7 in the fourth, the runner crosses the plane of the EZ with the ball (TD), and falls on his back, which jars the ball loose. Ruling on the field? Fumble. Goes to replay, which I expected to not rule a TD, but to at least correct the ruling and adhere to the long-standing maxim that the ground can’t cause a fumble.
Alas, it was not to be: So, NBC sets up next week’s imminently horrific cripple-fight between ND and Mich. First to 10 wins.
ND: Just as bad as last year.
September 8th, 2008 at 9:23 am
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kerwin4two says:
I’ll just say this one statement. Sometimes when someone does something and someone else cries about it like a whiny bitch, they show people who they really are – a 12 year old girl.
September 8th, 2008 at 9:25 am
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Der Schatten says:
EVERYONE knows that coaches cover the spread for alums when possible. In 1993, St. Bebes Stallings, with 2 mins left in the fourth Q, leading ole miss by 8, attempts a long Proctor FG that just misses. The line you ask? 10.5. Still think Michael owes me a bill for that one.
As for Shannon, STFU and recruit some offense.
September 8th, 2008 at 9:27 am
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Seven Years in Gainesville says:
Remember when Miami was a bunch of arrogant, confrontational thugs? Whatever respect I had for Randy Shannon as a man trying to lead Miami football out of the mire, it’s seriously diminished by this passive-aggressive whining. Shake Meyer’s hand and tell him the FG was bullshit (it wasn’t, UF’s kicker needed a FG attempt in a live fire situation), poke Meyer in the chest and tell him off, or don’t go to midfield. This running away… makes him look like a pansy, no?
September 8th, 2008 at 9:29 am
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Darkknight says:
Meyer is the same dude that said the WLOCP celeration was “a bad deal” and “will forever be in (his) mind”, right?
Just checking.
September 8th, 2008 at 9:31 am
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Orson Swindle says:
MEYER IS A SLEAZE ARP ARP ARP JORTS. [/ugafan'd]
September 8th, 2008 at 9:36 am
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CKGator says:
18–
Yeah, a field goal at the end of a game is the same thing has having the entire team run on the field and dance. If I remember correctly, there was no flag thrown for the field goal…
September 8th, 2008 at 9:40 am
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Orson Swindle says:
To be fair, a Pac-10 ref would have flagged that FG.
September 8th, 2008 at 9:41 am
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chuy says:
That was, without a doubt, a classless attempt to run up the score — no rational excuse for it.
And, yes, I did bet on Miami to cover the 23 points, so clearly I am unbiased…
September 8th, 2008 at 9:43 am
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Seven Years in Gainesville says:
Did anyone look at the illegal formation flag on the touchdown that would have made it 30-3? Remember, ACC refs in the Swamp do, ahem… curious things.
September 8th, 2008 at 9:44 am
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Still the Jackass in Red Pants! says:
This is what I can’t wrap my pea-brain around: why is it that the kicker needs one worthless (except to the financial invested) FGA, but Tebow’s back-up doesn’t need any game experience? Has the guy ever gotten into a game?
September 8th, 2008 at 9:45 am
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OnTap says:
It will be forever in Randy Shannon’s mind, and he will do something about it…..and it will be a “big deal”
September 8th, 2008 at 9:45 am
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Slow, Fat & White says:
#18 — Excellent point. Urban is clearly being hypocritical. I see no difference whatsoever between kicking a field goal with a couple minutes left on 4th down as opposed to instructing your entire team to go out onto the field to celebrate and taunt after a touchdown. Its precisely the same. In fact, instead of kicking the field goal, Urban should have just instructed the entire Gator squad to run onto the field and dance about during the fourth down play to pick up an illegal participation penalty. That would have been far classier.
September 8th, 2008 at 9:46 am
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Biggus Rickus says:
Technically, Richt didn’t instruct the entire team to storm the field. Nor did the entire team actually storm the field. It was more like half. And it was only a “bad deal” in the sense that it gave people (some not even Gator fans) something to endlessly bitch about.
September 8th, 2008 at 9:50 am
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Jacket And Coke says:
BEEEEEES! Not enough can be said about this insanely young team that actually has a shot to win it’s division. Weak oh yeah… but it’s like watching old Oklahoma reruns.
BEEEEEES!
September 8th, 2008 at 9:54 am
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Slow, Fat & White says:
#27 — another good point. Clearly, Meyer’s better tactic would have been to note in the post-game press confererence that he was shocked, shocked that the team kicked a field goal as that was not the designed play. He had told them to kneel on the ball but perhaps they had gotten confused because before the game they had talked about the goal of attempting to score and maybe some of the players did not understand.
And, yes, I’m going to continue bitching about it
September 8th, 2008 at 9:57 am
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AllWhoYonder says:
#14 (Der Schatten) having rewound that play numerous times, I have to say I agree. But even if it was a fumble, meaning he never crossed the plane, then how does it result in a touch back? when the ball did come out, it sat on the field side of the line. ND recovers and they guy gets tackled back into the end zone. if it were a fumble, shouldn’t the spot have been at the one foot mark?
there were actually other bad calls leading up to that in the game though: the lateral fumble by SDSU that was called incomplete, the Hughes “fumble”, and the non false start call on SDSU’s first score.
bad game, bad officiating. let’s just move on the Michigan Hate Week and be done with that travesty…
September 8th, 2008 at 9:58 am
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hobeg8r says:
I don’t know but if I were a current da U player – who played hard for 60 minutes…(which they clearly did)…I wouldn’t be too thrilled to have my coach say that he was getting phone calls from recruits promising to come to Miami to help him win (because I couldn’t?) I would have much rather had him compliment me on how hard I had played and that he was sure that we would be getting better. Afterwards, I didn’t hear any of the Miami players whining.
September 8th, 2008 at 9:59 am
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DHC says:
Give Walter Odom’s BFF a little slack for running off the field like a girl … not a woman, but a girl … a small girl child …
… he was very worried about all these (gasp) people in the stands, was looking for the baseball infield and looking forward to playing fooball 20 minutes away from campus.
September 8th, 2008 at 9:59 am
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InsaneCoachPosse says:
this many responses and no one mentions that LSUfeek has certainly outdone himself with this video?
the picture of Grandpa Miles deserves a t-shirt of it’s own…no doubt
September 8th, 2008 at 10:00 am
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Doug says:
Ahh, yes, Florida fans invoking the end-zone celebration. This has become a “set your watch by it” tradition every bit as sacred as the Alabama-Auburn threadjack.
All we’re saying, Gators, is that if CUM wants to get his culottes in a righteously indignant was over end-zone celebrations, perhaps he shouldn’t let his team jump on the midfield logo at Tiger Stadium or run up the score on people to cover point spreads.
That said, if I were Randy Shannon I’d spend less time passive-aggressively nursing my hurt fee-fees and more time finding any semblance of a vertical passing game. One wins games, the other doesn’t.
September 8th, 2008 at 10:00 am
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now_a_hoo says:
How quickly Meyer forgot the grace and class with which Mike Hart twice fumbled on the goal line to avoid embarrassing UF.
Also, I think Shannon’s point was that it might have turned recruits who were leaning toward Miami a little farther away from UF. That’s not that remarkable a statement.
September 8th, 2008 at 10:04 am
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Jack from Charlotte says:
Miami’s Interim Football Coach, Randy Shannon should have taken the opportunity to shake the hand of a real good football coach. Shannon will be coaching DB’s at UTEP next year and DB coaches don’t get to do the post game handshake.
September 8th, 2008 at 10:08 am
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marcillac says:
Someone needs to make sure LSUFreek is safe during hurricane season. We can’t risk him being made incomunicado for any stretch of time. He’s just too good.
September 8th, 2008 at 10:13 am
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Kerwin4two says:
Doug, Darkknight brought up the WLOCP celebration. Not a Florida Fan. And a RUTS doesn’t count if its still in the 20’s right? But I do agree that the righteous indignation about the celebration is a bit much. I’m all for shut up and play.
September 8th, 2008 at 10:14 am
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Raider Red says:
I hate ND as much as anyone, but the refs made the right call. The correct call was a touchback, since the defender did not have possession until the ball was on the line.
My reaction to the RUTS whining is the same as Billy Tubbs’. If you don’t like it, then stop the other team from scoring. For God’s sake, Hawaii scored more points than da U.
Better question: How would Lamar Thomas have reacted to all this?
September 8th, 2008 at 10:15 am
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DHC says:
Randy was just worried about a “visit” from Luther Campbell (euphemism for thug-life coCane fans) after losing a bundle on the spread.
UNJCB had about the most gutless offensive game plan I’ve ever seen. The old “let’s start running out the clock from the opening kickoff” routine.
50 yards of total offense after halftime (compared to UF’s 240)? Really?
September 8th, 2008 at 10:20 am
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beckett929 says:
This whole discussion is fucking ridiculous…. would it be any less embarrassing if UF just took a knee on 4th down?? Wow, the ACC has really worn all the fight out of you boys… as Dan Hawkins would bark, “ITS DIVISION ONE FOOTBALL!”
September 8th, 2008 at 10:24 am
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DHC says:
The only aesthetically-unpleasing part of UF-Miami was Brent Musberger calling the game.
Not sure I want to raise my kids in a world where that felcher is allowed to run roughshod over college football broadcasts.
September 8th, 2008 at 10:28 am
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Jason says:
1993 Ray Goff is unimpressed. Running a trick play with 1:26 left in the game against your rival to go up by 26 is the proper way to slap your balls across your rival’s face. It also leads to good YouTube footage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00VZxMfWQg4
September 8th, 2008 at 10:33 am
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Gen. Stoopnagle says:
#26: whining is whining.
I’m not sure if I’ve stopped whining about The Phantom Fumble on the Flats (1999). His fucking knee was down! (And we’ve pasted Tech 7 years running now — including a 51-7 final where the Bees just laid down and let back-ups do the deed).
September 8th, 2008 at 10:52 am
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John Coctostan says:
Ah, who doesn’t love a good ‘Airwolf’ reference? You might think that a weekly show that must (MUST!) feature a helicoptor dogfight as the climax to every episode would run out of steam after awhile. You would be wrong.
September 8th, 2008 at 11:07 am
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SC_Gator says:
Kicking a last minute field goal to run up the score is a tradition in the UF-UM rivalry… guess we all saw what kind of person Howard Schnellenberger was when he did it, and it so backfired on those 80’s era Miami teams, right?
September 8th, 2008 at 11:26 am
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NativeSon says:
Just so I’m clear on this Coach Shannon – Miami, your team, scoring a TD when already up 45-7 with 2:33 to play LAST week against Charleston Southern was fine. But a late FG on you and you’re all WTF?
Question: Did the Buccaneers coach shake YOUR hand?
September 8th, 2008 at 11:33 am
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DHC says:
Randy Shannon (hirer of Patrick Nix as you OC), your instructions are as follows:
Extend a forefinger and thumb, placing the back of hand against forehead.
Now hold it …. hold it …. that’s good …. keep holding it …
September 8th, 2008 at 11:44 am
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North 2 says:
I don’t remember the OBC crying when Tommy Frazier broke a billion tackles while tacking on needless points. You don’t want the opponents to score, stop them fair and square (no cheap shots to induce injurys). Even if we only count the value of scholarships, D-1 players get paid way too much to worry about their feelings on getting blown out.
September 8th, 2008 at 11:49 am
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PW says:
I really don’t understand why he was mad or what we could have done differently. I mean, what if we had run a play on 4th down and scored a TD against their (then) worn-out defense? How mad would he have been then?
September 8th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
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Albino Tornado says:
Karma can be a bitch in these running up the score situations. Nebraska’s Matt Turman audibled into a pass — which went for a TD — with a 48 point lead against Arizona State in 1995.
Next year — ASU 19, NU 0.
September 8th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
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Because They Can says:
I guess even GT could win the ACC. I mean, somebody has to.
September 8th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
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Biggus Rickus says:
Albino,
No kidding. Florida tacked on a late touchdown to be the first team to hang 50 on Georgia in Athens.
Next year – Florida 52, Georgia 7…oh, wait.
September 8th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
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Brian O'Blivion says:
It’s too bad the TD on the previous play was called back, then Shannon wouldn’t have anything to bitch about. And 30-3 looks more like a blowout. Oh well, I guess Shannon will have to wait until 2011 (or whenever they play next) to get his ‘revenge’, if he’s still the coach at that time.
Btw, was that Freek at the end of that video, and if so, is that his first appearance?
September 8th, 2008 at 3:16 pm